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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now we've been talking about ambulance wait times this morning
and they're certainly back on the agenda after was revealed
by the ABC News earlier this week that a Darwin
dancer waited for more than six hours for an ambulance
to arrive after dislocating her knee at a dance competition
on Saturday. So, twenty year old Banique Drives fell to
(00:21):
the ground and started screaming in pain at about eight
fifteen pm. Now she was told by emergency call operators
or her mum, was to stay pushed until paramedics arrived.
The problem is that ambulance didn't arrive for hours. Now,
Monique and her mum, Rebecca, joined me in the studio
this morning. Good morning to you both, Thanks so much
(00:43):
for your time.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Good morning, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Now, Monique, what happened on Saturday night?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So I was coming to the end of my routine
and I went to go do my first lunch and
I assume money is like hyper extend and back and
then it's just like let and slapped the floor and
assume when it did that, it's just like popped my
knee cap out.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Goodness me, So it's dislocated, you know, Yes, what happened next?
You've obviously fallen to the ground and screamed in pain
and then laid there.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, I was laying there holding my knee. It wasn't
until I looked at it till I realized like, okay,
this is something more than just like a twined muscle
or something. And everyone like that was there didn't know
what was happening until like they saw it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Mannie, can you describe for me what that pain like
felt like? Have you ever have you experienced something like
that before?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So this is my first major injury to myself. It
was really painful. Like I don't think like a sprain
ankle is nothing compared to what yea and dissocated news.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And so what happened next? Rebecca? From your perspective, I'm
assuming you've I've seen your daughter go down and thought,
oh my goodness, what's happened here? What happened next?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So we contacted an ambulance to come and give some assistance,
and we were told like they were pretty busy for
the night. We were ringing them every hour for the
first couple of hours. Then after about four hours, we
decided to try and move her ourselves because I made it.
(02:27):
One of the phone calls, I had asked the operator
if it would be easier if we did try and
move her, and they did tell us that was a
choice that only I could make, and I thought, well,
we didn't know how long it was going to be,
so I thought, well, I would try at least to
get her some help that she needed. We ended up
(02:48):
getting her onto a luggage trolley that the hotel had
let us use, but then realized because her knee was
like her leg was at like a right angle, so
we couldn't actually fit her in the car once we
got downstairs into the lobby.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh, that's making me sort of WinCE in pain just
thinking about it and thinking about you guys trying.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, you must have felt, you know, like I look
at it from a real mom perspective as well, and
my daughter's a few years younger. You must have felt
pretty helpless in that moment, thinking I want to do
everything I can to help my daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Definitely, it was quite confronting as a parent to see.
And then I ended up bringing the email and service
again about two thirty in the morning and just asking
them if it was okay if I could give her
some pain relief just to try and help until they
could get to us. They said that that would be
fine because they didn't know how long it was gonna be.
(03:44):
And then probably an hour after we gave pain relief,
they managed to turn up, which was really great.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We spoke to Saint John a little bit earlier this
morning and they said that they've been in contact with
you guys or they've spoken to you guys, and that
they had four crews that were you know that our
emergency ambulances on Saturday night. I believe they had about
thirty two different categorized incidents, so no doubt they were
really busy. But they also revealed that they've spent two
(04:13):
thousand hours over the last three months ramping at the hospital.
Now I know that when you guys arrived, you then
you were outside the hospital in the ambulance as well.
Weren't you for quite some time? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah? Like they got me inside and we like I
was probably laying there in their bed from the ambulance
for like a good thirty minutes waiting for a free
bed to go get an extray done on my knee
because we tried to get an extra done in the
bed from the ambulance and they couldn't get the best results,
so they had to train.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So it sounds like they really tried to sort of
do all that they could once you got into their care.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, I mean look for you guys, what does it
sort of what does it demonstrate for you going through
the situation over the weekend, Because for me, I heard
it and I've spoken to other parents as well who've
called for an ambulance after an injury at you know,
a basketball game, at a footy match, Who've had to
wait for quite some time. And it indicates to me
(05:14):
that our ambulance systems Saint John are under a lot
of pressure and they're bloody busy, but our health system
is you know, equally under pressure, and it means that
people like yourself, Monik, are waiting for hours to be
able to get in. Like what do you think it
sort of shows you about the health system and about
(05:36):
you know, the way in which things are operating right
now across the Northern Territory.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I reckon they need a lot more help, and not
from just us as a public, but from the government
and like more money to be able to get the
fundings for the hospital and the ambulance services.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, what do you think, mam?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I think the same, Like we need to invest
more in the house system and the emergency services because
everyone is doing it tough out there, and we have
got nothing negative to say about any of the service
that we got because it was all one hundred percent.
It was fantastic, but it was just that, like that
waiting period. But if we don't talk about it, nothing's
(06:14):
going to change. So that's why we thought, well, hey, no,
we need to speak up and say, you know, this
is not okay.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Good on you guys, because I know it can be
difficult putting yourself out of your comfort zone and speaking publicly,
particularly after you've gone through what is a really traumatic event,
but your spot on. You know, if you don't speak
about it, and if the government isn't aware of the
pressures that everyday Territorians are then being placed under as
a result of those stresses to our health system, then
(06:45):
nothing will ever change.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
No, that's exactly right. It's just yeah, very frustrating.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I feel for the employees of Saint John one hundred
percent more than what I feel for us, because I
know how hard that they do do it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah. Now, look, how long are you gonna be off
your leg now? In terms of your dancing.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Probably six weeks, but I'm hoping a lot shorter. Yeah,
get back quicker.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So tell me were you I mean, I'll get to
the nitty gritty now that we've gone through the real
serious stuff. Will you compete? Was it a competition or
was it a you know, like an exam? What was it?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So it was an actual competition where they've come up
from all parts of Australia. Like, this was my fifth
one for the season, and it was like the last
one and it was my last dance. I'm probably happy
that the dance was that section was the last one
from the other three I did. Yeah, probably worked out
in my favor.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh goodness me your poor thing right at the end
as well. So did you get like did you get
you know, a score or anything or what should hurt yourself?
That was it?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So from all my other routines, I had a lower
score from that, but from the one that I injured myself,
I got like eighty seven point five.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh wow, so you did really well, true champion.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I reckon definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I've never still three of us girls, but I was
gone on Place third anyway, but they still okay. Showed
up the next day and everyone was just like, so surprised,
how I come backlash.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's beautiful, still showing up, still being there to support
your mates as well, and to support everybody despite what
you'd gone through the night before, your little legend. That's awesome. Hey,
thank you both so much for joining me in the
studio this morning. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Thank you, Patie, thank you
Now we've been talking about ambulance wait times this morning
and they're certainly back on the agenda after was revealed
by the ABC News earlier this week that a Darwin
dancer waited for more than six hours for an ambulance
to arrive after dislocating her knee at a dance competition
on Saturday. So, twenty year old Banique Drives fell to
(00:21):
the ground and started screaming in pain at about eight
fifteen pm. Now she was told by emergency call operators
or her mum, was to stay pushed until paramedics arrived.
The problem is that ambulance didn't arrive for hours. Now,
Monique and her mum, Rebecca, joined me in the studio
this morning. Good morning to you both, Thanks so much
(00:43):
for your time.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Good morning, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Now, Monique, what happened on Saturday night?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So I was coming to the end of my routine
and I went to go do my first lunch and
I assume money is like hyper extend and back and
then it's just like let and slapped the floor and
assume when it did that, it's just like popped my
knee cap out.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Goodness me, So it's dislocated, you know, Yes, what happened next?
You've obviously fallen to the ground and screamed in pain
and then laid there.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, I was laying there holding my knee. It wasn't
until I looked at it till I realized like, okay,
this is something more than just like a twined muscle
or something. And everyone like that was there didn't know
what was happening until like they saw it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Mannie, can you describe for me what that pain like
felt like? Have you ever have you experienced something like
that before?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
So this is my first major injury to myself. It
was really painful. Like I don't think like a sprain
ankle is nothing compared to what yea and dissocated news.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And so what happened next? Rebecca? From your perspective, I'm
assuming you've I've seen your daughter go down and thought,
oh my goodness, what's happened here? What happened next?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So we contacted an ambulance to come and give some assistance,
and we were told like they were pretty busy for
the night. We were ringing them every hour for the
first couple of hours. Then after about four hours, we
decided to try and move her ourselves because I made it.
(02:27):
One of the phone calls, I had asked the operator
if it would be easier if we did try and
move her, and they did tell us that was a
choice that only I could make, and I thought, well,
we didn't know how long it was going to be,
so I thought, well, I would try at least to
get her some help that she needed. We ended up
(02:48):
getting her onto a luggage trolley that the hotel had
let us use, but then realized because her knee was
like her leg was at like a right angle, so
we couldn't actually fit her in the car once we
got downstairs into the lobby.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Oh, that's making me sort of WinCE in pain just
thinking about it and thinking about you guys trying.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, you must have felt, you know, like I look
at it from a real mom perspective as well, and
my daughter's a few years younger. You must have felt
pretty helpless in that moment, thinking I want to do
everything I can to help my daughter.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Definitely, it was quite confronting as a parent to see.
And then I ended up bringing the email and service
again about two thirty in the morning and just asking
them if it was okay if I could give her
some pain relief just to try and help until they
could get to us. They said that that would be
fine because they didn't know how long it was gonna be.
(03:44):
And then probably an hour after we gave pain relief,
they managed to turn up, which was really great.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We spoke to Saint John a little bit earlier this
morning and they said that they've been in contact with
you guys or they've spoken to you guys, and that
they had four crews that were you know that our
emergency ambulances on Saturday night. I believe they had about
thirty two different categorized incidents, so no doubt they were
really busy. But they also revealed that they've spent two
(04:13):
thousand hours over the last three months ramping at the hospital.
Now I know that when you guys arrived, you then
you were outside the hospital in the ambulance as well.
Weren't you for quite some time? Is that right?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah? Like they got me inside and we like I
was probably laying there in their bed from the ambulance
for like a good thirty minutes waiting for a free
bed to go get an extray done on my knee
because we tried to get an extra done in the
bed from the ambulance and they couldn't get the best results,
so they had to train.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So it sounds like they really tried to sort of
do all that they could once you got into their care.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah they did.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, I mean look for you guys, what does it
sort of what does it demonstrate for you going through
the situation over the weekend, Because for me, I heard
it and I've spoken to other parents as well who've
called for an ambulance after an injury at you know,
a basketball game, at a footy match, Who've had to
wait for quite some time. And it indicates to me
(05:14):
that our ambulance systems Saint John are under a lot
of pressure and they're bloody busy, but our health system
is you know, equally under pressure, and it means that
people like yourself, Monik, are waiting for hours to be
able to get in. Like what do you think it
sort of shows you about the health system and about
(05:36):
you know, the way in which things are operating right
now across the Northern Territory.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I reckon they need a lot more help, and not
from just us as a public, but from the government
and like more money to be able to get the
fundings for the hospital and the ambulance services.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, what do you think, mam?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yeah, I think the same, Like we need to invest
more in the house system and the emergency services because
everyone is doing it tough out there, and we have
got nothing negative to say about any of the service
that we got because it was all one hundred percent.
It was fantastic, but it was just that, like that
waiting period. But if we don't talk about it, nothing's
(06:14):
going to change. So that's why we thought, well, hey, no,
we need to speak up and say, you know, this
is not okay.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Good on you guys, because I know it can be
difficult putting yourself out of your comfort zone and speaking publicly,
particularly after you've gone through what is a really traumatic event,
but your spot on. You know, if you don't speak
about it, and if the government isn't aware of the
pressures that everyday Territorians are then being placed under as
a result of those stresses to our health system, then
(06:45):
nothing will ever change.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
No, that's exactly right. It's just yeah, very frustrating.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I feel for the employees of Saint John one hundred
percent more than what I feel for us, because I
know how hard that they do do it.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah. Now, look, how long are you gonna be off
your leg now? In terms of your dancing.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Probably six weeks, but I'm hoping a lot shorter. Yeah,
get back quicker.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
So tell me were you I mean, I'll get to
the nitty gritty now that we've gone through the real
serious stuff. Will you compete? Was it a competition or
was it a you know, like an exam? What was it?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
So it was an actual competition where they've come up
from all parts of Australia. Like, this was my fifth
one for the season, and it was like the last
one and it was my last dance. I'm probably happy
that the dance was that section was the last one
from the other three I did. Yeah, probably worked out
in my favor.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Oh goodness me your poor thing right at the end
as well. So did you get like did you get
you know, a score or anything or what should hurt yourself?
That was it?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
So from all my other routines, I had a lower
score from that, but from the one that I injured myself,
I got like eighty seven point five.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh wow, so you did really well, true champion.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I reckon definitely.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I've never still three of us girls, but I was
gone on Place third anyway, but they still okay. Showed
up the next day and everyone was just like, so surprised,
how I come backlash.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's beautiful, still showing up, still being there to support
your mates as well, and to support everybody despite what
you'd gone through the night before, your little legend. That's awesome. Hey,
thank you both so much for joining me in the
studio this morning. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Thank you, Patie, thank you
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