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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, there is certainly a lot happening around the place
this morning. Now joining us live on the line is
the Lord Mayor Conbat Scarless. Good morning to you, Corn.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Con I appreciate your time this morning because I know
that you have I believe, just come out of hospital,
so I do really appreciate you joining me on the
show this morning. How are you going at this point?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, I'm out of hospital. Unfortunately the pain followed me
home to so I'm on the painkillers. Try to come
down and that will take a while, but look it
will it will get well.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Corn.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We wish you all the very best in terms of
your recovery. Now we are hearing this morning, Corn that
the VIP unveiling of the Kinetic sculpture has been canceled.
Is that the case?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It is very, very unfortunate, Katie. I know you asked
me many times in the past about the unveiling. I
couldn't have told you that. We invited the Prime Minister
and the Primes will come because the instruction from Canberra
was were not allowed to disclose the movements of the
Prime Minister. Unfortunately, the Prime Minister Office advised us this
week that the Prime Minister is to state to Canberra
(01:11):
for a very sad personal issue. He will not be
able to come to Darwin. Hence we decided to counsel
the event.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So will the Prime Minister be attending any of the
fiftieth anniversary events for Cyclone Tracing.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
My understanding is, and I shouldn't speak more about it
because I think it's a personal issue, that it's a
personal matter that he has to attend in Canberra. Hence
he will not be attending any of the events in Darwin.
It's something I can understand. We've got French family. If
something happens, you may have to stay back with your
family and your French rather than travel on the other
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side of Australia.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, look, I certainly understand that. I do think that
it's still going to be disappointing for a lot of
Cyclone Tracing survivors.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
The appointing we're looking forward to to see the Prime Minister.
I send the personally vitation to him. But at the
same time I can understand it. But we will be
here and we have the public event on Saturday morning
at the Ski Club and where everybody is invited.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Coln, can I ask you know in terms of the
event that has been canceled, is you know, did the
fact that there was going to be a number of
protesters turn up to that event to protest this monument?
Did that also have a part to play in the
cancelation of the VIP event?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Not at all, a Katie. We invited a very small
number of guests because the Bandilla which is still a
walk site, and we're limited on the numbers of the
people where we can invite. And as I told you before,
there was not a winning and dining event. It was
just mida that the artists and if the primaty was
here would be really good for it. To see where
(02:54):
the money that they're given to U, but to us
by the federal government where we spent so.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Con There is a call this morning. We spoke to
Anthony Bullock a short time ago. There are a number
of Cyclone Tracy survivors calling for you to return that
three hundred thousand dollars to the federal government for the
kinetic sculpture because it is not a monument for Cyclone Tracy.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
From the very beginning, I told you that was not
the monument or memorial for Cyclund Tracy. The official memorial
would be in East Point, and that's been organized by
the Survivals of Cyclone Tracy Incorporated. And that's the difference.
We've been dealing with an incorporated body. Well, Anthony Bullock
represents himself and a few others in his cohort, and
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himself admitted he couldn't get an insurance because they're not
an incorporated body. Now, I can't deal with every single
person who comes to tarator Dar. I'm obliged to deal
with an organization that's got a governor structure and will
be accountable. That's why we dealt with Richard Creswick, and
that's the real way he dealt with his organization.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I suppose what they're getting to is that we received
a huge amount of money from the federal government for
a Cyclone Tracy monument. I mean, you had told us
on the show that it's an artwork or public installation.
So should that money be returned to the federal government
given the fact that it's not a Cyclone Tracy monument.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That would be a slap in the face of the
survivors of Cyclone Tracy who participated in the committee, who
themselves suggested and were accepted by all of them and
that were commended to counsel. That was not my decision.
That was a suggestion by the Cyclone Tracy committee that
came to council and all the councils agree to it.
So mister Bullock can say what he says, but the
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reality is that we slapped to the face of these
people who were survivor cycling Tracy and they were part
of the committee. Mister Bullock likes his own story. What
mister Bullock hasn't told you. He goes on about corruption
and mis management. He hasn't told you. You put a
former complaint to the local government department about the council
and that was thrown out. Then he went TWYKAK. He
(05:00):
put a format complain to Twycak that was thrown out
also because there were not anything done wrong by the country.
Then he put an application for freedom information and would
provided all information to him. But I haven't heard him
mentioned even once all these events. Look, I don't want
to go about mission yeah, because he represents himself. I'm
dealing with people that represent the second player survivors, rich
(05:23):
A Creswick and his team, and that I have to
do by law.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Look, ykone though, is you know, like we all read
that pressurelease that said it was going to be three
hundred thousand dollars from the federal government and that it
was going to be going to a Cyclone Tracy monument.
As I said, you know, we have spoken you and
I have spoken about this before, and it had said
that it was going to be at art installation. So
you know, the argument from not only Anthony, but from
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other Cyclone Tracy survivors who quite a few of them
we've heard from on the show. They are saying, like
their argument is that that federal funding hasn't gone towards
what it was supposed to go towards.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Three hundred thousand dollars were given to reach a clerzwork
association or organization and they're installing the front and panety
flowers in this point.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, but I'm talking about the monument. I'm talking about
the monument, And I don't want to confuse the two
things here, because we do know that there was federal
funding for Bundilla Beach, but corn there was federal funding
for Bundilla Beach, So let's not confuse that because we
have read that pressure lays out, so there definitely was
funding that was supposed to go to a monument at
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Bundla Beach, the memorial. At each point it was separate funding.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And the monument you say in Vadilla Beach is that
kinetics culture called coriolis that representing the forces of nature
that creates the cyclones and that will have an interpretative
signals around it. That would decide to put there because
it's going to be close to the museum where it's
called the Cyclone Tracy Exhibit, and that was put there
because cont plenty of space for visitors and children from
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schools to come and learn more about the forces of
nature that create cyclings like Tracy. Now I know people
say memorial monument. I can understand that one. Even myself,
I had to go to the Cambridge Dictionary to fund
the definition. Even their definition is very confusied, sometimes over
loops each other. The reality is it's a And we've
discussed before how many times people in Dawin they like
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or hate a public art. I remember still the arguments
about the Stuart Spears, I remember the argument about the
jellyfish in the in the it's point I understand that
some people like it, some people do not like it,
and the monument now has been it would be erected,
it would be not the pink orange color you saw
it with the artist himself. Besides, he will pick up
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the blue color to represent the ki appeal, the sea,
the salt weather people. And probably you've seen the photo
it's a bluid color, which actually it will be blending
with the environment. And also we will have a link with
Cyclone Tracy, the forces of nature and the people here
in daw Colin.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Some are calling for you to stand down as the
mayor for this, over this monument, over this artwork, this debacle.
I mean, what do you say, are your standing firm?
It does sound as though you're standing firm and that
you stand by that money being invested into this sculpture.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
If if any major resigned every time so but because
of the designations, you won't have any majors in DA
or any other cities. I'm not here for Cyclum, for
Anthony Bullock. I'm here for the people of Darwin and
avast majority of Charclon pre survivors who represented by the
Circle Stress survivors.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I do just want to point out that it's not
just Antony. I mean, we've been sent a letter that
literally has you know, territorian after territorian that have signed
it saying that they weren't happy and that they're not
happy over this monument. Now you the one thing that
I will say, conn is you've fronted up and you've
spoken to me about this on numerous occasions, and it
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is no doubt that any council decision is not a
decision from the mayor alone, it's actually from all of
the counselors that sit on that council. Are getting a
bit pissed off that you're the only one that's having
to answer these questions. Why isn't anyone else standing up?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, no councilor palmers to that, And very clearly Space
spoke in your program. Are the councils standing up? Peter
Panquin king for us up. The only problem we've got
that every time some people stand up and talk in
favor of the sculpture or anything else, they're torn to
pieces by the group of people that mister Bullock represents.
(09:27):
I said before, I accept people's argument. I accept that
they don't like some public that others would like it.
Mister bull doesn't like it. Now, well, what can I
do about it? Mister Bullock, that's your personal opinion.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, com Let's move along because there's a bit
to talk about. I want to ask you just a
quick one and listener got in contact with this yesterday
Tony asking Hi Katie. Has the Airport Corporation paid their
overdue council right? Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Now here they haven't. The letters that I've got is well,
Mike finish in court. It is unfor fortunate. It's a pity.
We do the bit of the of the transaction, the contract.
Unfortunately they seem fit not to pay what allo concl
which is totally unfair because every red payer pays their
(10:15):
rate in due time. Here we've got a multinational corporation
the charge and arm and leg and that contributes to
the increased price of fas refused to pay what's a
consul con.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I want to move along. Something that I was contacted
about yesterday is this the pool manager's house? Well, it
used to be the pool manager's house there, perap. I'm
sure that you're aware of the home that I'm speaking about.
We spoke to Darryl Mansey. He was just one of
the residents that got in contact with me about the
concerns that that former pool manager's house. It's going to
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be resowned or that is certainly what the council is considering. Now.
My understanding is that to begin with, the council had
moved emotion or that there had been a you know,
that there had been information that the best thing to
do with it is to zone it residential and potentially
sell it. But then three other aldermen or three other
councilors push back on that decision and want to be
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it wanted to be zoned as community use. Now the
residents of that area are really very concerned about what
that is going to mean. Were residents in the area
consulted about these plans?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Look, there was consultation about before and we had a
report put to council that the all Care Taket house
is zoned and be disposed of and the money to
be that we would get from that to put in
an account. So there was only a huguer community development
that should actually go to that development. During the debate,
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the Council at Smell and More goan to recard move
an amendment, not to sell it, but to rezone it
for community purposes. As you know, council operates in themocratic principles,
and five councilors voted for it. Myself, Councrol, Palma, Panquee
and Boos vote against him, explaining that it was not
a good idea. First of all, resigning it was very
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difficult and will cost money to counsel and also trying
to renovate will cost counsel to cost money to cancel
and other people that are concerned. The council has not
got anything any idea what to be in the future.
But as I said, council operates democratic principles were four,
there were five, and they wanted but again there's a
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long way to go, and there are always ways of
going back and review this decision.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, I think it's going to need to be gone
because like the fact is all of the residents on
that straight and obviously you know, some of you saw
the common sense here, but all of the residents on
that straight from what I can gather from the number
that have been in contact with May, and not only
that straight, but in that area, they're ropable. They're incredibly
concerned about what this could actually become.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I can understand that, but even well, whatever it becomes,
he has to come back to council for any decision,
and council will actually decide about it. But as I
do you before, at the moment five against four were
in the minority. We've got for expression of vendors. But
even when it comes back, it would be thoroughly examined,
and I'm pretty sure the four of us, it probably
would be some of them. The others would change opinion
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when they see the cost and what else cost tender
mind do.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So to those that voted for these to become community purpose.
So ultimately, from what we heard from residents, five of
them they voted for that to become community purpose. From
what from the discussion that we had yesterday, the concern
here is that, you know, it could become a half
white house, it could become a house where prisoners go
when they get, you know, out of jail. All of
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those things are obviously required in the community. But why,
you know, why would the council go down the path
of having a community like having that that residence converted
to that. You know, when you've already got around the
Parp area around Perpp Village there are anti social issues
from time to time. You've got residents that actually live
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in that area, saying we do not want this. I mean,
did any of those aldermen that actually voted for this
to happen actually speak to the residents in that area.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I always say to people, you know who your local
alderman is, pick up the phone and ring them and
express your views strong views against it, because at the
end of the day, I can't do anything about it.
I'm the mayor who got one of votes like everybody else.
But we were four opposits for our reasons, and we
explain why the other five they went ahead with it
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they wanted, but nothing stopped a local resent speak to me,
speak to Councrol Parma, speak to Councerol, pank wee, speak
to puns to Concerol smell and concerol recard about it
and everybody else and express their frustrations.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So did I say so Coin? Obviously you, Counselor Palmer
and Counselor Pankue have voted with you know, with what
the residents actually or with what the residents actually want
to have happened, which is for it to be a
residential home. But with the others, what are they proposing
that it actually be used as?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, no, we can't propose what they didn't propose what
you use for. They actually got asked to go for
expression of vendors. To their credit, they didn't say it
has to be this or the other. At the end
of the day, they can't. It has to come back
to council, to full council for this use to be made.
The only thing they wanted to go to expressional veindors. Again,
as I did you before, I'm all in favorable going
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to experimental windors if it's going to benefits to council
and the local community. But to go for experial leaders
just for the sake of going to expression windors, I
think it's not a very good affect.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That home is. Also it's actually on the land? Is
it actually on the land that's the pool land as well.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It has to be resonned. It has to be resoned
to go through the rezoning process in DCA. It will
cost council money. There was no reason to spend extra money.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Why would you Why would they go down that path
of its costing council money?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, the year before, Kate, you can put a question
to them, call them on your program and put the
question to them, because as I do you before, it's
a democratic We have are obliged and I have to
abide by the nothern territory government legislation. We operate on
democratic principles. Despite our best efforts, they wanted well.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Coln, the Lord Mayor of Darwin Combat Scholars. I appreciate
your time this morning. All the very best with your recovery.
Thank you for joining a conversife. Thank you
Well, there is certainly a lot happening around the place
this morning. Now joining us live on the line is
the Lord Mayor Conbat Scarless. Good morning to you, Corn.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Con I appreciate your time this morning because I know
that you have I believe, just come out of hospital,
so I do really appreciate you joining me on the
show this morning. How are you going at this point?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, I'm out of hospital. Unfortunately the pain followed me
home to so I'm on the painkillers. Try to come
down and that will take a while, but look it
will it will get well.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Corn.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We wish you all the very best in terms of
your recovery. Now we are hearing this morning, Corn that
the VIP unveiling of the Kinetic sculpture has been canceled.
Is that the case?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It is very, very unfortunate, Katie. I know you asked
me many times in the past about the unveiling. I
couldn't have told you that. We invited the Prime Minister
and the Primes will come because the instruction from Canberra
was were not allowed to disclose the movements of the
Prime Minister. Unfortunately, the Prime Minister Office advised us this
week that the Prime Minister is to state to Canberra
(01:11):
for a very sad personal issue. He will not be
able to come to Darwin. Hence we decided to counsel
the event.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
So will the Prime Minister be attending any of the
fiftieth anniversary events for Cyclone Tracing.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
My understanding is, and I shouldn't speak more about it
because I think it's a personal issue, that it's a
personal matter that he has to attend in Canberra. Hence
he will not be attending any of the events in Darwin.
It's something I can understand. We've got French family. If
something happens, you may have to stay back with your
family and your French rather than travel on the other
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side of Australia.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, look, I certainly understand that. I do think that
it's still going to be disappointing for a lot of
Cyclone Tracing survivors.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
The appointing we're looking forward to to see the Prime Minister.
I send the personally vitation to him. But at the
same time I can understand it. But we will be
here and we have the public event on Saturday morning
at the Ski Club and where everybody is invited.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Coln, can I ask you know in terms of the
event that has been canceled, is you know, did the
fact that there was going to be a number of
protesters turn up to that event to protest this monument?
Did that also have a part to play in the
cancelation of the VIP event?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Not at all, a Katie. We invited a very small
number of guests because the Bandilla which is still a
walk site, and we're limited on the numbers of the
people where we can invite. And as I told you before,
there was not a winning and dining event. It was
just mida that the artists and if the primaty was
here would be really good for it. To see where
(02:54):
the money that they're given to U, but to us
by the federal government where we spent so.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Con There is a call this morning. We spoke to
Anthony Bullock a short time ago. There are a number
of Cyclone Tracy survivors calling for you to return that
three hundred thousand dollars to the federal government for the
kinetic sculpture because it is not a monument for Cyclone Tracy.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
From the very beginning, I told you that was not
the monument or memorial for Cyclund Tracy. The official memorial
would be in East Point, and that's been organized by
the Survivals of Cyclone Tracy Incorporated. And that's the difference.
We've been dealing with an incorporated body. Well, Anthony Bullock
represents himself and a few others in his cohort, and
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himself admitted he couldn't get an insurance because they're not
an incorporated body. Now, I can't deal with every single
person who comes to tarator Dar. I'm obliged to deal
with an organization that's got a governor structure and will
be accountable. That's why we dealt with Richard Creswick, and
that's the real way he dealt with his organization.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I suppose what they're getting to is that we received
a huge amount of money from the federal government for
a Cyclone Tracy monument. I mean, you had told us
on the show that it's an artwork or public installation.
So should that money be returned to the federal government
given the fact that it's not a Cyclone Tracy monument.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
That would be a slap in the face of the
survivors of Cyclone Tracy who participated in the committee, who
themselves suggested and were accepted by all of them and
that were commended to counsel. That was not my decision.
That was a suggestion by the Cyclone Tracy committee that
came to council and all the councils agree to it.
So mister Bullock can say what he says, but the
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reality is that we slapped to the face of these
people who were survivor cycling Tracy and they were part
of the committee. Mister Bullock likes his own story. What
mister Bullock hasn't told you. He goes on about corruption
and mis management. He hasn't told you. You put a
former complaint to the local government department about the council
and that was thrown out. Then he went TWYKAK. He
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put a format complain to Twycak that was thrown out
also because there were not anything done wrong by the country.
Then he put an application for freedom information and would
provided all information to him. But I haven't heard him
mentioned even once all these events. Look, I don't want
to go about mission yeah, because he represents himself. I'm
dealing with people that represent the second player survivors, rich
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A Creswick and his team, and that I have to
do by law.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Look, ykone though, is you know, like we all read
that pressurelease that said it was going to be three
hundred thousand dollars from the federal government and that it
was going to be going to a Cyclone Tracy monument.
As I said, you know, we have spoken you and
I have spoken about this before, and it had said
that it was going to be at art installation. So
you know, the argument from not only Anthony, but from
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other Cyclone Tracy survivors who quite a few of them
we've heard from on the show. They are saying, like
their argument is that that federal funding hasn't gone towards
what it was supposed to go towards.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Three hundred thousand dollars were given to reach a clerzwork
association or organization and they're installing the front and panety
flowers in this point.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, but I'm talking about the monument. I'm talking about
the monument, And I don't want to confuse the two
things here, because we do know that there was federal
funding for Bundilla Beach, but corn there was federal funding
for Bundilla Beach, So let's not confuse that because we
have read that pressure lays out, so there definitely was
funding that was supposed to go to a monument at
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Bundla Beach, the memorial. At each point it was separate funding.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And the monument you say in Vadilla Beach is that
kinetics culture called coriolis that representing the forces of nature
that creates the cyclones and that will have an interpretative
signals around it. That would decide to put there because
it's going to be close to the museum where it's
called the Cyclone Tracy Exhibit, and that was put there
because cont plenty of space for visitors and children from
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schools to come and learn more about the forces of
nature that create cyclings like Tracy. Now I know people
say memorial monument. I can understand that one. Even myself,
I had to go to the Cambridge Dictionary to fund
the definition. Even their definition is very confusied, sometimes over
loops each other. The reality is it's a And we've
discussed before how many times people in Dawin they like
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or hate a public art. I remember still the arguments
about the Stuart Spears, I remember the argument about the
jellyfish in the in the it's point I understand that
some people like it, some people do not like it,
and the monument now has been it would be erected,
it would be not the pink orange color you saw
it with the artist himself. Besides, he will pick up
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the blue color to represent the ki appeal, the sea,
the salt weather people. And probably you've seen the photo
it's a bluid color, which actually it will be blending
with the environment. And also we will have a link with
Cyclone Tracy, the forces of nature and the people here
in daw Colin.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Some are calling for you to stand down as the
mayor for this, over this monument, over this artwork, this debacle.
I mean, what do you say, are your standing firm?
It does sound as though you're standing firm and that
you stand by that money being invested into this sculpture.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
If if any major resigned every time so but because
of the designations, you won't have any majors in DA
or any other cities. I'm not here for Cyclum, for
Anthony Bullock. I'm here for the people of Darwin and
avast majority of Charclon pre survivors who represented by the
Circle Stress survivors.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I do just want to point out that it's not
just Antony. I mean, we've been sent a letter that
literally has you know, territorian after territorian that have signed
it saying that they weren't happy and that they're not
happy over this monument. Now you the one thing that
I will say, conn is you've fronted up and you've
spoken to me about this on numerous occasions, and it
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is no doubt that any council decision is not a
decision from the mayor alone, it's actually from all of
the counselors that sit on that council. Are getting a
bit pissed off that you're the only one that's having
to answer these questions. Why isn't anyone else standing up?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
No, no councilor palmers to that, And very clearly Space
spoke in your program. Are the councils standing up? Peter
Panquin king for us up. The only problem we've got
that every time some people stand up and talk in
favor of the sculpture or anything else, they're torn to
pieces by the group of people that mister Bullock represents.
(09:27):
I said before, I accept people's argument. I accept that
they don't like some public that others would like it.
Mister bull doesn't like it. Now, well, what can I
do about it? Mister Bullock, that's your personal opinion.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, com Let's move along because there's a bit
to talk about. I want to ask you just a
quick one and listener got in contact with this yesterday
Tony asking Hi Katie. Has the Airport Corporation paid their
overdue council right? Yes?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Now here they haven't. The letters that I've got is well,
Mike finish in court. It is unfor fortunate. It's a pity.
We do the bit of the of the transaction, the contract.
Unfortunately they seem fit not to pay what allo concl
which is totally unfair because every red payer pays their
(10:15):
rate in due time. Here we've got a multinational corporation
the charge and arm and leg and that contributes to
the increased price of fas refused to pay what's a
consul con.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
I want to move along. Something that I was contacted
about yesterday is this the pool manager's house? Well, it
used to be the pool manager's house there, perap. I'm
sure that you're aware of the home that I'm speaking about.
We spoke to Darryl Mansey. He was just one of
the residents that got in contact with me about the
concerns that that former pool manager's house. It's going to
(10:48):
be resowned or that is certainly what the council is considering. Now.
My understanding is that to begin with, the council had
moved emotion or that there had been a you know,
that there had been information that the best thing to
do with it is to zone it residential and potentially
sell it. But then three other aldermen or three other
councilors push back on that decision and want to be
(11:09):
it wanted to be zoned as community use. Now the
residents of that area are really very concerned about what
that is going to mean. Were residents in the area
consulted about these plans?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Look, there was consultation about before and we had a
report put to council that the all Care Taket house
is zoned and be disposed of and the money to
be that we would get from that to put in
an account. So there was only a huguer community development
that should actually go to that development. During the debate,
(11:48):
the Council at Smell and More goan to recard move
an amendment, not to sell it, but to rezone it
for community purposes. As you know, council operates in themocratic principles,
and five councilors voted for it. Myself, Councrol, Palma, Panquee
and Boos vote against him, explaining that it was not
a good idea. First of all, resigning it was very
(12:11):
difficult and will cost money to counsel and also trying
to renovate will cost counsel to cost money to cancel
and other people that are concerned. The council has not
got anything any idea what to be in the future.
But as I said, council operates democratic principles were four,
there were five, and they wanted but again there's a
(12:33):
long way to go, and there are always ways of
going back and review this decision.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Well, I think it's going to need to be gone
because like the fact is all of the residents on
that straight and obviously you know, some of you saw
the common sense here, but all of the residents on
that straight from what I can gather from the number
that have been in contact with May, and not only
that straight, but in that area, they're ropable. They're incredibly
concerned about what this could actually become.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I can understand that, but even well, whatever it becomes,
he has to come back to council for any decision,
and council will actually decide about it. But as I
do you before, at the moment five against four were
in the minority. We've got for expression of vendors. But
even when it comes back, it would be thoroughly examined,
and I'm pretty sure the four of us, it probably
would be some of them. The others would change opinion
(13:20):
when they see the cost and what else cost tender
mind do.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So to those that voted for these to become community purpose.
So ultimately, from what we heard from residents, five of
them they voted for that to become community purpose. From
what from the discussion that we had yesterday, the concern
here is that, you know, it could become a half
white house, it could become a house where prisoners go
when they get, you know, out of jail. All of
(13:46):
those things are obviously required in the community. But why,
you know, why would the council go down the path
of having a community like having that that residence converted
to that. You know, when you've already got around the
Parp area around Perpp Village there are anti social issues
from time to time. You've got residents that actually live
(14:07):
in that area, saying we do not want this. I mean,
did any of those aldermen that actually voted for this
to happen actually speak to the residents in that area.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I always say to people, you know who your local
alderman is, pick up the phone and ring them and
express your views strong views against it, because at the
end of the day, I can't do anything about it.
I'm the mayor who got one of votes like everybody else.
But we were four opposits for our reasons, and we
explain why the other five they went ahead with it
(14:39):
they wanted, but nothing stopped a local resent speak to me,
speak to Councrol Parma, speak to Councerol, pank wee, speak
to puns to Concerol smell and concerol recard about it
and everybody else and express their frustrations.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So did I say so Coin? Obviously you, Counselor Palmer
and Counselor Pankue have voted with you know, with what
the residents actually or with what the residents actually want
to have happened, which is for it to be a
residential home. But with the others, what are they proposing
that it actually be used as?
Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, no, we can't propose what they didn't propose what
you use for. They actually got asked to go for
expression of vendors. To their credit, they didn't say it
has to be this or the other. At the end
of the day, they can't. It has to come back
to council, to full council for this use to be made.
The only thing they wanted to go to expressional veindors. Again,
as I did you before, I'm all in favorable going
(15:30):
to experimental windors if it's going to benefits to council
and the local community. But to go for experial leaders
just for the sake of going to expression windors, I
think it's not a very good affect.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
That home is. Also it's actually on the land? Is
it actually on the land that's the pool land as well.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It has to be resonned. It has to be resoned
to go through the rezoning process in DCA. It will
cost council money. There was no reason to spend extra money.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Why would you Why would they go down that path
of its costing council money?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Well, the year before, Kate, you can put a question
to them, call them on your program and put the
question to them, because as I do you before, it's
a democratic We have are obliged and I have to
abide by the nothern territory government legislation. We operate on
democratic principles. Despite our best efforts, they wanted well.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Coln, the Lord Mayor of Darwin Combat Scholars. I appreciate
your time this morning. All the very best with your recovery.
Thank you for joining a conversife. Thank you
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