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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Look, that discussion really is being had this morning about
political donations. The COLP haven't declared their political donations in
the latest list that has come through now. According to
their treasurer, he didn't have the opportunity to or did
not have the time. It is certainly a voluntary role
(00:20):
by the sounds of things, and it looks as though
the Electoral Commission is going to now send that warning
letter requesting they submit the outstanding return immediately. So we'll
find out a little bit more when we catch up
with Shane Stone in around ten minutes. But every Thursday
we try to catch up with an independent Member of
Parliament to find out what's happening in their electorates and
(00:40):
speak to them about the issues of the day. And
I'm pleased to say that joining me on the line
this morning is the Independent Member for Goid Kezier Puric.
Good morning Kezier, Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Good morning Katie Case. It's sloppy. They can't get their returns,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, it's gonna ask Kezier, what are your thoughts on
these political donations?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Come on, it's not hard, it's not rocket science. We
get a reminder from the Electoral Commission you're a major party,
you want to take government from the current government, and
you can't even get your bloody returns done in time.
I mean, for goodness sake, soon. If it's a fellow,
who's a woman, is a volunteer, this is critical. This
is your reporting requirement. This is legislation, you know. Well,
(01:24):
and these letter to them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, well, these are the questions that are being asked
this morning, you know, as to why why has it
not happened? You know, and like you said, if you're
wanting to form government, then you really need to be
making sure that you know that you are actually getting
those returns in.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, it's going to continue. It's been around father. Okay,
the reporting requirements are slightly different. The legislation was changed,
but as you said, it's about transparency. Where does the
money come from for any party for that matter, It
doesn't matter a party or individual because it's about accountability.
It's also about integrity, and it's also about making sure
that you know if there are conflict of interests and
(02:03):
they people are aware of them, and you know they
can make their judgments accordingly. So absolutely see what the
president has to say.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, absolutely, well, we'll find out more in around ten
minutes time. Now, Tezier, I understand, you know, there's always
plenty happening out in the rural area, particularly when it
comes to planning, and I understand that there's been some
concerns raised around the Holtz plan.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What's the worry they're sure has been And I do
I have a conflict divness or best in interest because
I live close close by to this area, but not
as close as my neighbors. And for probably about eight
to ten years, we've been presented with plans for this
development and they are constantly changing. There's about twenty residence
houses along that way. Now, what we're talking about is
(02:45):
people know where the Parmesan Regional Hospital is or the
Lichfield Council Hospital, shall we say, it's sort of behind there.
Now the government is looking to put five hundred blocks
residential blocks on the equivalent of about a one hundred
and thirteen acres. Now, I'm not sure what that is
in hectares, but it's not a big chunk of land.
(03:06):
It's about the same as of land as the Palmeston
Hospital takes up. So you're probably going to be looking
at blocks of land that are like three four, five
hundred square meters. That's it. Planning to build another ghetto
again they have made we haven't even got to the
stage of putting it out for well. No, they are
talking to some developers at the moment. There's two groups
(03:28):
of people businesses that the government says they're talking to.
My point is the residents are very concerned because they
were promised, maybe three four meetings ago, a two hundred
meter buffer from their backfence to whatever development that is
now shrunk. Now they've also found out that there's a
major high voltage transmission line about twenty meters from their
(03:49):
back brander, and they're talking about saving a bit up
there for shops and developments. The meeting, the public could
not answer questions like what is going on that skinny
little buffer out, couldn't say, I wouldn't say. The more
important thing is if I could just interrupt. There was
(04:09):
the mayor of Parima, by Lichfield there and also one
of the councilors, Matthew Salter. Now they got a briefing
exactly the same as this public meeting in November twenty
twenty two, and they were sworn to secrecy. They could
not talk about it. They could not tell anyone now
over it got twelve eighteen months later the residents find out.
(04:30):
So my question is, why is the government being so
claned to stine about this development. Why they're not letting
the counselors of Lichfield do their job to represent their
constituents and tell people what's happening. Like there's two councilors
per ward. Yes, Matthew Salters won for this area. They
were sworn to city. I've never heard of. That's the
government hiding about this whole development.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, the thing is you've got to be open and
transparent otherwise people are going to automatically get their backs up.
You know, we all know that makes I mean, is
this a case where where you guys are being Nimbi's
and going not in my backyard?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, No, the residents are okay with the development, but
they were promised a two hundred meter development. I mean
part of the land there is going to be set
aside for the health precinc costs in old people's home
possibly you know, the complimentary things to do with the hospital.
And that's too sort of the right of it as
you look down on them. But these people, they didn't
(05:24):
have an issue with it. All the access comes off
the hospital a highway sign. They were promised this two hundred.
They were not told about the high voltage transitional line
on their back brander, you know, and a few other
things like that. And there's a couple of residents right
down on Taylor Road, right at the very end that
comes off Wallaby Hols. Now they have got a major
waterline and sewage line going down their back pench line
(05:47):
and they were not told about that. And it won't
just be a line, it'll be a bloody road to
service that infrastructure.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, so they're not going to be happy at all.
CAZy like where to from here with this development though,
Like is it a done deal or is so it's
still the opportunity for those concerns to be raised.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Our bloody hope not. But I'm in the mid a
letter to the Minister Joel Bowden about the inappropriateness of
the clandestine nature that the public service seems to be employed.
Doesn't set on this for over twelve eighteen months, will
come to the residence. Why how how come they come?
They talk to the literal councilable and swear their intersecrecy,
(06:24):
but they don't then come and talk to the residents
at the same time. So what is going on? So
the next step is I've been asked by the residents
and I've spoken to the local member himself, Jared Mardy.
The people want to do a petition to the anti government,
not an online thing, a real petition and also the
residents will we take it up? There were at the
public meeting, they got a fair and square between the
(06:45):
eyes exactly what the residents thought. I mean, originally they
wanted to put the public meeting in bloody Palmerston, and
I wrote a very terse letter to the consultants said
what the hell do you think you're doing? You know
we're not Palmestan, even though there's not a suspicion that
there's some kind of gearing going in the background, and
they want to submerge us into some bloody parmesan, bloody boundary.
So I think a lot more has to come out
(07:06):
and next week's sittings is a good time for me,
and I would hope the local member, mister Manley, does
the same thing. The development per se is not a problem.
How they're going about it and what they're now proposing.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You sound wild, You sound like you're pretty angry about it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I am angry because they have been stupidinous and they've
been deceitful, you know. And I want to know why
are they running their own agenda because it does mister
bout and know about this. I mean, we've had this
Holtz development on the plan for years. As I said,
we've had numerous public meetings. Previously, Jerry would attend to them.
He's put in comments about this. The other thing too,
(07:43):
when you put that many blocks on a piece of land,
it's happened that. I think duracles are cold. You're one
of those. They make the road so skinny, the bloody
public transport buses can't get down, emergency vehicles have problems
getting down because people have to park on the road
because there's no space on their personal book. That's what
they're proposing here. And the other thing is all around
(08:03):
this area is bush We are bush fights every year
that goes through the air, and they're not even thinking
about that stuff at all. So hopefully these.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Shilte you seem to have cut out a little bit there, Kesier.
Hopefully we've got you again.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Hello, Is that I've got you now?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Hopefully they've done taken the message back to the
midst and to the powers to be in their department
that what they're proposing right now is not acceptable, inappropriate,
and it's not acceptable.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, Kezier, let's stay on to it. It sounds like
it's going to be a big issue for residents out
in the rural area. So keep me up to date, certainly,
keep me, you know, in the loop with what's going on.
I understand as well. Just a couple of quick ones
because we are going to have to choof off. But
nuonam Ridge. It's also back on the table. What are
people in the rural area saying?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, people are listing down that way. It's back on
the agenda, not fully, but it's now called Lloyd Creek,
you know. So I have been offered a briefing by
someone who's working on the proposal and they tell me
it is very different to the original proposal. And they
say also that they've got that water issues sorted out.
(09:13):
It was never about the water issue, It was about
the whole proposal in total that was inappropriate. And this
government does not seem and previous governments do not seem
to want to commit to Wadell so it's going to
cost a bit of money. Anything's going to cost money.
Development's going to cost of money, you know. So I'm
just looking people were against that Dunamar Ridge and calling
(09:36):
it another name. It's not going to trick anyone. It's
like when Era called Jabaluca Ranger North, didn't trick anyone.
It was still Jabaluca. Yeah, people, Lloyd Cleek, it's still
still Nunamar Ridge and will be. I'll be interested to
see what's happening. And of course once again we'll have
to have community meetings to see what the people think
because it affects them directly.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, this is the thing, particularly when it comes to planning.
You know, people are very very passionate about it, and
you've got to make sure that you're consulting with the
community on these planning decisions. Kesier, In terms of Parliament
resuming next week, are these planning decisions and these planning
issues going to be on the agenda for you.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Only if I get the opportunity to ask the question
and perhaps talk in a German. But tatiu I opens
put for the year. It's one week, so Tuesday's ceremonial
and you know, welcome everyone, for New Year, that kind
of thing. Hopefully we'll have the Chinese line to welcome
us to the New year as well. But honestly, there's
not much on the agenda legislation wise. There's a piece
of legislation to do with the place Name Committee and names.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh, we seem to have lost your Kezier. Hopefully I've
got you there.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Are you back?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh goodness, we seem to have lost Kezia Puric. Hopefully
we're able to get her back on the line. I
know we were keen to ask Kezier about what is
on the agenda next week when parliament resumes, and she
had told me that it does not seem to be
much Keasier, if I got you No. Unfortunately, Kezier has
dropped out for some reason.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So I am just going.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
To message her as well, because there was a message
that had come through saying, good morning, Katie. Can you
please ask Keasier if she is going to be contesting
at the next election. So let me just try once more.
Are you there, Keasier? No, we have lost Kesier. So Kesier,
if you are out there listening, I have got a
listener question. Good morning, Katie, can you please ask Kesier
(11:29):
if she is going to be contesting in the upcoming election,
So Kesier, if you're able to send me a message back,
that would be greatly appreciated.
Look, that discussion really is being had this morning about
political donations. The COLP haven't declared their political donations in
the latest list that has come through now. According to
their treasurer, he didn't have the opportunity to or did
not have the time. It is certainly a voluntary role
(00:20):
by the sounds of things, and it looks as though
the Electoral Commission is going to now send that warning
letter requesting they submit the outstanding return immediately. So we'll
find out a little bit more when we catch up
with Shane Stone in around ten minutes. But every Thursday
we try to catch up with an independent Member of
Parliament to find out what's happening in their electorates and
(00:40):
speak to them about the issues of the day. And
I'm pleased to say that joining me on the line
this morning is the Independent Member for Goid Kezier Puric.
Good morning Kezier, Hey.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Good morning Katie Case. It's sloppy. They can't get their returns,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Well, it's gonna ask Kezier, what are your thoughts on
these political donations?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Come on, it's not hard, it's not rocket science. We
get a reminder from the Electoral Commission you're a major party,
you want to take government from the current government, and
you can't even get your bloody returns done in time.
I mean, for goodness sake, soon. If it's a fellow,
who's a woman, is a volunteer, this is critical. This
is your reporting requirement. This is legislation, you know. Well,
(01:24):
and these letter to them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, well, these are the questions that are being asked
this morning, you know, as to why why has it
not happened? You know, and like you said, if you're
wanting to form government, then you really need to be
making sure that you know that you are actually getting
those returns in.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well, it's going to continue. It's been around father. Okay,
the reporting requirements are slightly different. The legislation was changed,
but as you said, it's about transparency. Where does the
money come from for any party for that matter, It
doesn't matter a party or individual because it's about accountability.
It's also about integrity, and it's also about making sure
that you know if there are conflict of interests and
(02:03):
they people are aware of them, and you know they
can make their judgments accordingly. So absolutely see what the
president has to say.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, absolutely, well, we'll find out more in around ten
minutes time. Now, Tezier, I understand, you know, there's always
plenty happening out in the rural area, particularly when it
comes to planning, and I understand that there's been some
concerns raised around the Holtz plan.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What's the worry they're sure has been And I do
I have a conflict divness or best in interest because
I live close close by to this area, but not
as close as my neighbors. And for probably about eight
to ten years, we've been presented with plans for this
development and they are constantly changing. There's about twenty residence
houses along that way. Now, what we're talking about is
(02:45):
people know where the Parmesan Regional Hospital is or the
Lichfield Council Hospital, shall we say, it's sort of behind there.
Now the government is looking to put five hundred blocks
residential blocks on the equivalent of about a one hundred
and thirteen acres. Now, I'm not sure what that is
in hectares, but it's not a big chunk of land.
(03:06):
It's about the same as of land as the Palmeston
Hospital takes up. So you're probably going to be looking
at blocks of land that are like three four, five
hundred square meters. That's it. Planning to build another ghetto
again they have made we haven't even got to the
stage of putting it out for well. No, they are
talking to some developers at the moment. There's two groups
(03:28):
of people businesses that the government says they're talking to.
My point is the residents are very concerned because they
were promised, maybe three four meetings ago, a two hundred
meter buffer from their backfence to whatever development that is
now shrunk. Now they've also found out that there's a
major high voltage transmission line about twenty meters from their
(03:49):
back brander, and they're talking about saving a bit up
there for shops and developments. The meeting, the public could
not answer questions like what is going on that skinny
little buffer out, couldn't say, I wouldn't say. The more
important thing is if I could just interrupt. There was
(04:09):
the mayor of Parima, by Lichfield there and also one
of the councilors, Matthew Salter. Now they got a briefing
exactly the same as this public meeting in November twenty
twenty two, and they were sworn to secrecy. They could
not talk about it. They could not tell anyone now
over it got twelve eighteen months later the residents find out.
(04:30):
So my question is, why is the government being so
claned to stine about this development. Why they're not letting
the counselors of Lichfield do their job to represent their
constituents and tell people what's happening. Like there's two councilors
per ward. Yes, Matthew Salters won for this area. They
were sworn to city. I've never heard of. That's the
government hiding about this whole development.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Well, the thing is you've got to be open and
transparent otherwise people are going to automatically get their backs up.
You know, we all know that makes I mean, is
this a case where where you guys are being Nimbi's
and going not in my backyard?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, No, the residents are okay with the development, but
they were promised a two hundred meter development. I mean
part of the land there is going to be set
aside for the health precinc costs in old people's home
possibly you know, the complimentary things to do with the hospital.
And that's too sort of the right of it as
you look down on them. But these people, they didn't
(05:24):
have an issue with it. All the access comes off
the hospital a highway sign. They were promised this two hundred.
They were not told about the high voltage transitional line
on their back brander, you know, and a few other
things like that. And there's a couple of residents right
down on Taylor Road, right at the very end that
comes off Wallaby Hols. Now they have got a major
waterline and sewage line going down their back pench line
(05:47):
and they were not told about that. And it won't
just be a line, it'll be a bloody road to
service that infrastructure.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, so they're not going to be happy at all.
CAZy like where to from here with this development though,
Like is it a done deal or is so it's
still the opportunity for those concerns to be raised.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Our bloody hope not. But I'm in the mid a
letter to the Minister Joel Bowden about the inappropriateness of
the clandestine nature that the public service seems to be employed.
Doesn't set on this for over twelve eighteen months, will
come to the residence. Why how how come they come?
They talk to the literal councilable and swear their intersecrecy,
(06:24):
but they don't then come and talk to the residents
at the same time. So what is going on? So
the next step is I've been asked by the residents
and I've spoken to the local member himself, Jared Mardy.
The people want to do a petition to the anti government,
not an online thing, a real petition and also the
residents will we take it up? There were at the
public meeting, they got a fair and square between the
(06:45):
eyes exactly what the residents thought. I mean, originally they
wanted to put the public meeting in bloody Palmerston, and
I wrote a very terse letter to the consultants said
what the hell do you think you're doing? You know
we're not Palmestan, even though there's not a suspicion that
there's some kind of gearing going in the background, and
they want to submerge us into some bloody parmesan, bloody boundary.
So I think a lot more has to come out
(07:06):
and next week's sittings is a good time for me,
and I would hope the local member, mister Manley, does
the same thing. The development per se is not a problem.
How they're going about it and what they're now proposing.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
You sound wild, You sound like you're pretty angry about it.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I am angry because they have been stupidinous and they've
been deceitful, you know. And I want to know why
are they running their own agenda because it does mister
bout and know about this. I mean, we've had this
Holtz development on the plan for years. As I said,
we've had numerous public meetings. Previously, Jerry would attend to them.
He's put in comments about this. The other thing too,
(07:43):
when you put that many blocks on a piece of land,
it's happened that. I think duracles are cold. You're one
of those. They make the road so skinny, the bloody
public transport buses can't get down, emergency vehicles have problems
getting down because people have to park on the road
because there's no space on their personal book. That's what
they're proposing here. And the other thing is all around
(08:03):
this area is bush We are bush fights every year
that goes through the air, and they're not even thinking
about that stuff at all. So hopefully these.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Shilte you seem to have cut out a little bit there, Kesier.
Hopefully we've got you again.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Hello, Is that I've got you now?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, Hopefully they've done taken the message back to the
midst and to the powers to be in their department
that what they're proposing right now is not acceptable, inappropriate,
and it's not acceptable.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Well, Kezier, let's stay on to it. It sounds like
it's going to be a big issue for residents out
in the rural area. So keep me up to date, certainly,
keep me, you know, in the loop with what's going on.
I understand as well. Just a couple of quick ones
because we are going to have to choof off. But
nuonam Ridge. It's also back on the table. What are
people in the rural area saying?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, people are listing down that way. It's back on
the agenda, not fully, but it's now called Lloyd Creek,
you know. So I have been offered a briefing by
someone who's working on the proposal and they tell me
it is very different to the original proposal. And they
say also that they've got that water issues sorted out.
(09:13):
It was never about the water issue, It was about
the whole proposal in total that was inappropriate. And this
government does not seem and previous governments do not seem
to want to commit to Wadell so it's going to
cost a bit of money. Anything's going to cost money.
Development's going to cost of money, you know. So I'm
just looking people were against that Dunamar Ridge and calling
(09:36):
it another name. It's not going to trick anyone. It's
like when Era called Jabaluca Ranger North, didn't trick anyone.
It was still Jabaluca. Yeah, people, Lloyd Cleek, it's still
still Nunamar Ridge and will be. I'll be interested to
see what's happening. And of course once again we'll have
to have community meetings to see what the people think
because it affects them directly.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Well, this is the thing, particularly when it comes to planning.
You know, people are very very passionate about it, and
you've got to make sure that you're consulting with the
community on these planning decisions. Kesier, In terms of Parliament
resuming next week, are these planning decisions and these planning
issues going to be on the agenda for you.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Only if I get the opportunity to ask the question
and perhaps talk in a German. But tatiu I opens
put for the year. It's one week, so Tuesday's ceremonial
and you know, welcome everyone, for New Year, that kind
of thing. Hopefully we'll have the Chinese line to welcome
us to the New year as well. But honestly, there's
not much on the agenda legislation wise. There's a piece
of legislation to do with the place Name Committee and names.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh, we seem to have lost your Kezier. Hopefully I've
got you there.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Are you back?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh goodness, we seem to have lost Kezia Puric. Hopefully
we're able to get her back on the line. I
know we were keen to ask Kezier about what is
on the agenda next week when parliament resumes, and she
had told me that it does not seem to be
much Keasier, if I got you No. Unfortunately, Kezier has
dropped out for some reason.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
So I am just going.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
To message her as well, because there was a message
that had come through saying, good morning, Katie. Can you
please ask Keasier if she is going to be contesting
at the next election. So let me just try once more.
Are you there, Keasier? No, we have lost Kesier. So Kesier,
if you are out there listening, I have got a
listener question. Good morning, Katie, can you please ask Kesier
(11:29):
if she is going to be contesting in the upcoming election,
So Kesier, if you're able to send me a message back,
that would be greatly appreciated.
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