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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now, unfortunately art in Palmerston issues continue around crime and
alcohol fueled violence. So I know that there's been growing
complaints in Gray and it's prompted the Member for Drysdale,
Clinton Howe, to formally approach the NT Liquor Commission. Last week,
he confirmed on social media that the Independent Liquor Commission
has formally received the community's request for a review of
(00:23):
the Gray liquor license and he's been invited to speak
directly with the Commission as part of that process. Now
joining me on the line is the COLP Member for Drysdale,
Clinton how Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Clinton, Good morning Katie. How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, good, Good to have you on the show. Now,
tell me what are some of the issues that are
being experienced in Gray at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, We've got quite a few issues happening in Gray.
We've got a lot of alcohol fueled violence, a lot
of violence in general. We've got youth crime and a
lot of public drunkenness as well, which we see throughout
the suburbs and locals have just had enough and we've
had enough for quite a long time. This is we've
(01:07):
got a real legacy issue here and it ties into
there's quite a few factors that are leading into this.
Alcohol is obviously a big driver, which is why I've
written to the Liquor Commission. But the other thing we
deal with is Gray. In my eyes, is kind of
an example of how policy, poor policy can really damage
(01:31):
a community long term and wet.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Why what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So we carry about we carry over seventy percent of
public housing in the electric of in my electricive Drivesdale,
and we've got a super density in the Gray area
and also in southern driver as well. And so we
have this super dense housing, we've got long term problem
(01:58):
tenancies which are causing massive disruption to the community. Couple
that with ease of access to alcohol and we have
kind of the perfect storm. And there's also with that
super density of housing, we then get a lot of
visitors to the electorate. So in the elector to drives
day you would have at any given time easily probably
(02:19):
over one thousand visitors that have come in from communities
who are staying in there as well. And that with
then the alcohol, we just get massive problems. And so
I've been very clear from day one, you know, it's
kind of it's why I put my hand up to run.
You know, I don't apologize for the mess I've inherited,
(02:41):
but I'm here to fix it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So what are the next steps? From your perspective? I mean,
by the sounds of it, the alcohol issue is a
huge one. Are locals calling for that license to be reviewed?
Do they want it gotten rid of?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, there's been caused. There's calls for that, and as
I put in my submission, there's also calls for it
not to be removed. And so I've presented both sides
of the argument. What I've asked for the commission is
to go and investigate. I want to know pretty much.
I want an independent process to look at and give
(03:17):
us the facts and some recommendations as well as to
I need to know where the liquor is coming from.
What is our main supply, because there's no point getting
rid of a liquor license, but then only to find
out ninety percent of the liquors coming in from other areas.
So the Liquor Commission, I'm hoping, is just to deliver
(03:38):
us some facts and facts for everyone in the community
as well, and that gives us a starting point. But
that's only one aspect of it. The other aspect is
the housing situation, and I've been very clear. I've said
in Parliament that you know, we need to do a
sell off. There needs to be a sell down at
the density because we've just created a ghetto and some
(04:01):
of the old some of the old flat style just
needs to be removed. I said in parliament this year
it'll be a good day for Gray when I reckon
ball goes through sin City and if everyone in Green
knows which flats that is, and it's just it's just
a place of suffering.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And mate, I reckon, we'll like we always get listeners
contact us who live out that way who tell us
of you know, the different things going on out there.
So I mean that's longer term of course, trying to
make some changes to public housing. And like you said,
that high density. I mean that's been a push for
(04:38):
quite some time to get rid of that high density
public housing and we've seen it in different locations. I mean,
we've still got a massive block of public housing here
in the city that causes issues. We know out in
Palmerston that's the case too, So I do reckon that's
something that needs to be further looked into. In terms
of this issue. Though with the license. What's the process
(05:00):
now and can locals living in your electorate still sort
of have their say on this process? Are you going
to be speaking with the commission?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Absolutely? So, I believe it's the twenty seventh of May.
I will speak personally with the Commission and I'll give
them kind of more detail as to what the community
is looking for. They will then go to if they decide,
so it's an independent process. If they take on the inquiry,
(05:30):
they will then go to public hearings in which everyone
and anyone in the community can have their say. And
that's a really important aspect and I'll make sure that's
publicized and spread throughout the community so they can all
have their say.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, make sure your message us and let us know
when that is happening, Clinton, because I know that people
are be keen to make sure that they can have
their say on that one.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, and it's also you know, it's difficult for everyone.
This is behind that life is also a family business
who you know are doing their best as well, and
so there's you know the idea of this is to
get answers and to clean up Gray. You know, I
have a vision for Grey, Katie, and it's got everything.
(06:18):
Gray has everything a great suburb needs. We've got big,
beautiful blocks, beautiful open parks, grade school. And it's social.
It's social issues that are that have created this and
that's what I'm here to fix.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, and it has to be fixed. I mean, I
don't live out in Palmerston, but I was driving around
that area a couple of weeks ago, about three o'clock
in the afternoon to get my son to soccer, and
they're like, it was like the public intoxication was just
so evident, and I thought to myself, Gee, if you
had a house it was just there, you'd be you'd
(06:52):
be seriously struggling with having to deal with that on
a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's the the suffering flows onto everybody. Yes, And as
you said, like the people that live there, we now
people that want to leave that house. Prices have been
so crossed by the social behavior, and so I know
by fixing all these things, you know, I've got to
(07:19):
systematically go through it, and that's what we're doing. So
with the violence, we've implemented the tough laws and it's
quite simple. We'll find a bed. Forew if you're committing
violent crime, you know, we've done the Law and Order
package one point three four billion. We've also committed to
sixteen million more for mental health services at the hospital
(07:40):
and the housing reforms. I'm working very closely with Minister Edgington,
along with I will say, Brian who's got Karama and
Matt out in Blaine, because we also our electorates stuff
a similar things. And so those housing reform package, which
we'll deliver later in the year is going to be
very targeted a problem tenants. And the idea of this
(08:05):
is to if you're causing problems in your public housing tendency,
will replease you with someone who's going to look after
it and look after the community.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, and Clinton, we are going to have to wrap up, mate,
I really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very
much for joining us on the show, and we will
talk to you again as well. We'll find out a
little bit more, I mean, keep us up to date
if you can about what goes on with the Liquor
Commission and those those discussions that you have.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I will thanks Betty, thank you very
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Much, appreciate your time.
Now, unfortunately art in Palmerston issues continue around crime and
alcohol fueled violence. So I know that there's been growing
complaints in Gray and it's prompted the Member for Drysdale,
Clinton Howe, to formally approach the NT Liquor Commission. Last week,
he confirmed on social media that the Independent Liquor Commission
has formally received the community's request for a review of
(00:23):
the Gray liquor license and he's been invited to speak
directly with the Commission as part of that process. Now
joining me on the line is the COLP Member for Drysdale,
Clinton how Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Clinton, Good morning Katie. How you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, good, Good to have you on the show. Now,
tell me what are some of the issues that are
being experienced in Gray at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, We've got quite a few issues happening in Gray.
We've got a lot of alcohol fueled violence, a lot
of violence in general. We've got youth crime and a
lot of public drunkenness as well, which we see throughout
the suburbs and locals have just had enough and we've
had enough for quite a long time. This is we've
(01:07):
got a real legacy issue here and it ties into
there's quite a few factors that are leading into this.
Alcohol is obviously a big driver, which is why I've
written to the Liquor Commission. But the other thing we
deal with is Gray. In my eyes, is kind of
an example of how policy, poor policy can really damage
(01:31):
a community long term and wet.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Why what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
So we carry about we carry over seventy percent of
public housing in the electric of in my electricive Drivesdale,
and we've got a super density in the Gray area
and also in southern driver as well. And so we
have this super dense housing, we've got long term problem
(01:58):
tenancies which are causing massive disruption to the community. Couple
that with ease of access to alcohol and we have
kind of the perfect storm. And there's also with that
super density of housing, we then get a lot of
visitors to the electorate. So in the elector to drives
day you would have at any given time easily probably
(02:19):
over one thousand visitors that have come in from communities
who are staying in there as well. And that with
then the alcohol, we just get massive problems. And so
I've been very clear from day one, you know, it's
kind of it's why I put my hand up to run.
You know, I don't apologize for the mess I've inherited,
(02:41):
but I'm here to fix it.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So what are the next steps? From your perspective? I mean,
by the sounds of it, the alcohol issue is a
huge one. Are locals calling for that license to be reviewed?
Do they want it gotten rid of?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, there's been caused. There's calls for that, and as
I put in my submission, there's also calls for it
not to be removed. And so I've presented both sides
of the argument. What I've asked for the commission is
to go and investigate. I want to know pretty much.
I want an independent process to look at and give
(03:17):
us the facts and some recommendations as well as to
I need to know where the liquor is coming from.
What is our main supply, because there's no point getting
rid of a liquor license, but then only to find
out ninety percent of the liquors coming in from other areas.
So the Liquor Commission, I'm hoping, is just to deliver
(03:38):
us some facts and facts for everyone in the community
as well, and that gives us a starting point. But
that's only one aspect of it. The other aspect is
the housing situation, and I've been very clear. I've said
in Parliament that you know, we need to do a
sell off. There needs to be a sell down at
the density because we've just created a ghetto and some
(04:01):
of the old some of the old flat style just
needs to be removed. I said in parliament this year
it'll be a good day for Gray when I reckon
ball goes through sin City and if everyone in Green
knows which flats that is, and it's just it's just
a place of suffering.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
And mate, I reckon, we'll like we always get listeners
contact us who live out that way who tell us
of you know, the different things going on out there.
So I mean that's longer term of course, trying to
make some changes to public housing. And like you said,
that high density. I mean that's been a push for
(04:38):
quite some time to get rid of that high density
public housing and we've seen it in different locations. I mean,
we've still got a massive block of public housing here
in the city that causes issues. We know out in
Palmerston that's the case too, So I do reckon that's
something that needs to be further looked into. In terms
of this issue. Though with the license. What's the process
(05:00):
now and can locals living in your electorate still sort
of have their say on this process? Are you going
to be speaking with the commission?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Absolutely? So, I believe it's the twenty seventh of May.
I will speak personally with the Commission and I'll give
them kind of more detail as to what the community
is looking for. They will then go to if they decide,
so it's an independent process. If they take on the inquiry,
(05:30):
they will then go to public hearings in which everyone
and anyone in the community can have their say. And
that's a really important aspect and I'll make sure that's
publicized and spread throughout the community so they can all
have their say.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Well, make sure your message us and let us know
when that is happening, Clinton, because I know that people
are be keen to make sure that they can have
their say on that one.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, and it's also you know, it's difficult for everyone.
This is behind that life is also a family business
who you know are doing their best as well, and
so there's you know the idea of this is to
get answers and to clean up Gray. You know, I
have a vision for Grey, Katie, and it's got everything.
(06:18):
Gray has everything a great suburb needs. We've got big,
beautiful blocks, beautiful open parks, grade school. And it's social.
It's social issues that are that have created this and
that's what I'm here to fix.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah, and it has to be fixed. I mean, I
don't live out in Palmerston, but I was driving around
that area a couple of weeks ago, about three o'clock
in the afternoon to get my son to soccer, and
they're like, it was like the public intoxication was just
so evident, and I thought to myself, Gee, if you
had a house it was just there, you'd be you'd
(06:52):
be seriously struggling with having to deal with that on
a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's the the suffering flows onto everybody. Yes, And as
you said, like the people that live there, we now
people that want to leave that house. Prices have been
so crossed by the social behavior, and so I know
by fixing all these things, you know, I've got to
(07:19):
systematically go through it, and that's what we're doing. So
with the violence, we've implemented the tough laws and it's
quite simple. We'll find a bed. Forew if you're committing
violent crime, you know, we've done the Law and Order
package one point three four billion. We've also committed to
sixteen million more for mental health services at the hospital
(07:40):
and the housing reforms. I'm working very closely with Minister Edgington,
along with I will say, Brian who's got Karama and
Matt out in Blaine, because we also our electorates stuff
a similar things. And so those housing reform package, which
we'll deliver later in the year is going to be
very targeted a problem tenants. And the idea of this
(08:05):
is to if you're causing problems in your public housing tendency,
will replease you with someone who's going to look after
it and look after the community.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, and Clinton, we are going to have to wrap up, mate,
I really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you very
much for joining us on the show, and we will
talk to you again as well. We'll find out a
little bit more, I mean, keep us up to date
if you can about what goes on with the Liquor
Commission and those those discussions that you have.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I will thanks Betty, thank you very
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Much, appreciate your time.
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