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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, if you're listening to the show. Yesterday we spoke
extensively about Saint Vincent de Paul's Osnam house moving from
Stuart Park to Coconut Grove last year, and the fact
that they are now trying to extend that move until
a permanent site is secured. Now, the CEO of Saint
Hinnis and a local business owner both spoke to us
(00:20):
about the development application which has been launched to extend
the current lease to September twenty twenty nine. Concerns obviously
raised by locals in the area, but the CEO of
Vinie saying that there are a number of measures in
place to ensure that it doesn't have an impact on
people living or working in the area. Now joining us
(00:40):
on the line is the local member for Fanny Bay,
Laurie Zeo. Good morning to you, Laurie.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah? Really good? Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, Laurie,
first off, do you support this extension?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Not at all, Katie. I've been speaking to many, many
people in the area and the impact that the move
has had on the residents that live in the Coconut
Grove area has just far outweighs my ability to be
able to support the extension of this program.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I mean, what does that mean for you now, obviously
as a member of the COLPA. But as we spoke
to the Chief Minister about yesterday, it doesn't look as
though there's going to be somewhere for them to move
in the really close future.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I think there's some things that we can put
into place. I've been speaking to the minister for a
very long time, the Minister for Lands and Planning, and
trying to work through a way of how we can
get this moving. Obviously, when we went through the campaign
process last year, i'd said at that point that I
was against the move from Stuart Park to Coconut Grove.
(01:44):
We all knew, we'd spoken to many many constituents and
we'd sort of heard the concerns that people had and
what was happening in Stuart Park was only going to
get transferred to Coconut Grove because it's in a residential area.
So I've been working the Minister since we came to government,
since I came into this role, and trying to push
to make sure things happen as quickly as possible so
we didn't get to the position that we're in now.
(02:05):
The Minister's been absolutely amazing. He's been working as hard
as he can to try and get stuff on the
ground to get things moving. I've got my fingers crossed
that we'll be able to announce a site for relocation
early next year, like the Chief Ministers spoke about, I
know that there's potential like some of the sites that
might be up for move or transition to, they're not
(02:29):
necessarily ready to just move into straight away. They might
need some groundworks or you know, they might need some
works to happen before that can be moved into that location.
So my hope is that we may very well need
an extension. I think a three year extension is beyond
what we should be accepted in this space. So my
(02:50):
submission to the Development Content Authority will be requesting that
if we need to do an extension because of the
work that needs to happened, it's not three years.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So talk me through what locals are telling you in
terms of the issues that they're dealing with right now.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh o, Katie, I've received so many photos, videos, messages,
phone calls, emails about this relocation and to put it
into context with the amount of people that I've spoken
to about this. I've probably received emails from two people
that have said, Nope, we like the service. That hasn't
changed anything. We were happy with it. In contrast to that,
(03:25):
I've probably received sixty emails messages from other people consistently
saying this is what's happening right now. They're send me photos, videos.
I've been out there a lot, so I've spent a
lot of time in the area to see if what
people are telling me is happening is actually happening. And
I can confirm that it absolutely is. There's a spill
(03:45):
coming out of the facility. It's only opened until twelve o'clock,
so the work at Saint Vincent de Pool and the
staff there can do it's not able to be carried
over for the instances that happened from twelve o'clock onwards.
So they might be around and they might be trying
to talk to people about what they do when they
leave the service, but they're not there and they're not
available to be able to service the needs that happen
(04:07):
once people leave that service.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And do you, I mean, do you then feel as
though some of the other NGOs or non government organizations
and services you know, we spoke yesterday about larikiir for example,
those patrols helping out. Do you feel as though they're
all working together to try and minimize the impact of
antisocial behavior? I guess you know what I'm getting to is,
(04:29):
if Vinnie's are going to stay there at least, you know,
let's say, like best case scenario, maybe for another year,
what can be done to try to minimize the impact
in terms of all of these services actually working together
to minimize that impact.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh, there's a whole heap of work that could happen
in that space. So always improvements that can be made.
I know that organizations are doing what they can to
the best of their ability, but there's always improvements that
can be made in that space. I think that Larichi
Nation could definitely be more involved with people on the
ground and sort of being outside of that venue between
like from when the service closes or even from about
(05:07):
ten o'clock because people start to they come in for breakfast.
I've been into the venue as well and seeing what
the support are provided, and Katie, I'd have to say, like,
the service is absolutely needed. Yeah, it's a service that
the community needs. You know, people go in there they
get a feed, they're able to wash their clothes, they're
able to get support, service referrals, whether it's healthcare, whether
it's homelessness sort of support or emergency relief, housing support,
(05:33):
centering support, whatever it is that they need, there's the
ability for them to be able to get support with
that which we need. We need that service. But yeah,
I definitely think the Laroche Nation could jump on board
a little bit here and be around and be visible
in the area after the service closes, so that we
can support people leaving and see where they're going and
where they might need help to get to.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah. I guess the question is, so, like, is the
government adequately funding them to be able to do that?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh, look, not fully across all of the funding that
goes towards some of these NGOs. I know that, you know,
there is a lot of funding that goes out to
the door to them, and we do need to do
really good reviews of the funding and what outcomes that
funding is having. We need to be sort of auditing
to make sure that we're providing the money and it's
going to a service and there's getting outcomes. So yeah, yeah, yes,
(06:21):
the needs improvement.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Laurie someone else has just gotten in contact with us
and said, can you please ask the local member about
Orange Sky laundry service at per Rap shops every Sunday morning.
This person says, I know this is a great service
for those in need, but not all their clients are
doing the right thing. The service runs in the morning,
but their clients stay most of the day and then
end up drinking, and they're at the bus stops and
(06:44):
the shopping center at Perap. They're leaving a mess everywhere.
This person really questioning, you know, whether it's the appropriate location.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, and I don't disagree. So this is something that
happens in Perap right around the corner from my electric office,
so literally ten meters away from my elected office side.
I know what happens there. I'm not convinced that the
Orange Sky service is the reason for that antidosocial of behavior,
or you know, the reason that people are hanging around.
We've got a really unique area in Perap there where
(07:14):
we have quite high density public housing, we have green space,
and we have the prep tavern and the bottle shop
all in one really close proximity. So people are coming
to that area. Orange Sky provide a service where people
can come in and they can get their clothes wash.
They have washing machines inside the van, so they come
and can get that service. In addition to that, we
(07:35):
have a little it's not a pop up church, but
it's kind of a church inside the prep village there,
and the local people that live in that area they
come to that church service as well. So they're coming
to the church service, they're getting a feed there, and
they're also getting their closed washed. I'm not quite convinced
that the you know, the story of that's the reason
(07:55):
they're coming, is why we're getting that antisocial behavior. I
don't think that's the reason. I think they would kind
of be there anyway. Okay, because of the public housing,
because of the pub, because of the green space.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, all right, Laurie, we're gonna have to get ready
to wrap up, but just very quickly before I let
you go. In terms of Vinnie's and you know the
situation there at Coconut Grove, what are the next steps?
You know, what are you going to do as the
local member to try to really you know, advocate and
push for change that locals are calling for. They're to
say they do not want this service extended. In Coconut Grove.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah. Absolutely, so I have been working with a minister
and we're trying to come up with a solution. I've
been meetings with Saint Nuncy DePaul. They know that I'm
applause this, so this is nothing that's hidden from them.
They did a letter letter box drop saying that they
were going to be applying for the extension. A day later,
I did a letter box drop and said I'm opposed
to this and use some steps to follow if you
want to get in touch or you need help with
(08:49):
providing a submission. So the Development Consent to Authority. Submissions
close on the seventh of November, and there's ways that
people in the area that are affected by the service
PEO put their submission, So if they need help with that,
they can come and see us in our office and
papp we can help do a submission or provide that information.
Happy to help as much as we can that I'll
be working closely with the minister to try and make
(09:10):
sure we can get this outcome that the community is well.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Remember four Fanny Bay Laurie Zio really appreciate your time
this morning. Thanks so much for having a chat with us.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Thank you so much, Katie and I hope everybody has
a really great rest of their week.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Thank you you too.
Well, if you're listening to the show. Yesterday we spoke
extensively about Saint Vincent de Paul's Osnam house moving from
Stuart Park to Coconut Grove last year, and the fact
that they are now trying to extend that move until
a permanent site is secured. Now, the CEO of Saint
Hinnis and a local business owner both spoke to us
(00:20):
about the development application which has been launched to extend
the current lease to September twenty twenty nine. Concerns obviously
raised by locals in the area, but the CEO of
Vinie saying that there are a number of measures in
place to ensure that it doesn't have an impact on
people living or working in the area. Now joining us
(00:40):
on the line is the local member for Fanny Bay,
Laurie Zeo. Good morning to you, Laurie.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah? Really good? Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, Laurie,
first off, do you support this extension?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Not at all, Katie. I've been speaking to many, many
people in the area and the impact that the move
has had on the residents that live in the Coconut
Grove area has just far outweighs my ability to be
able to support the extension of this program.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I mean, what does that mean for you now, obviously
as a member of the COLPA. But as we spoke
to the Chief Minister about yesterday, it doesn't look as
though there's going to be somewhere for them to move
in the really close future.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, I think there's some things that we can put
into place. I've been speaking to the minister for a
very long time, the Minister for Lands and Planning, and
trying to work through a way of how we can
get this moving. Obviously, when we went through the campaign
process last year, i'd said at that point that I
was against the move from Stuart Park to Coconut Grove.
(01:44):
We all knew, we'd spoken to many many constituents and
we'd sort of heard the concerns that people had and
what was happening in Stuart Park was only going to
get transferred to Coconut Grove because it's in a residential area.
So I've been working the Minister since we came to government,
since I came into this role, and trying to push
to make sure things happen as quickly as possible so
we didn't get to the position that we're in now.
(02:05):
The Minister's been absolutely amazing. He's been working as hard
as he can to try and get stuff on the
ground to get things moving. I've got my fingers crossed
that we'll be able to announce a site for relocation
early next year, like the Chief Ministers spoke about, I
know that there's potential like some of the sites that
might be up for move or transition to, they're not
(02:29):
necessarily ready to just move into straight away. They might
need some groundworks or you know, they might need some
works to happen before that can be moved into that location.
So my hope is that we may very well need
an extension. I think a three year extension is beyond
what we should be accepted in this space. So my
(02:50):
submission to the Development Content Authority will be requesting that
if we need to do an extension because of the
work that needs to happened, it's not three years.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
So talk me through what locals are telling you in
terms of the issues that they're dealing with right now.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh o, Katie, I've received so many photos, videos, messages,
phone calls, emails about this relocation and to put it
into context with the amount of people that I've spoken
to about this. I've probably received emails from two people
that have said, Nope, we like the service. That hasn't
changed anything. We were happy with it. In contrast to that,
(03:25):
I've probably received sixty emails messages from other people consistently
saying this is what's happening right now. They're send me photos, videos.
I've been out there a lot, so I've spent a
lot of time in the area to see if what
people are telling me is happening is actually happening. And
I can confirm that it absolutely is. There's a spill
(03:45):
coming out of the facility. It's only opened until twelve o'clock,
so the work at Saint Vincent de Pool and the
staff there can do it's not able to be carried
over for the instances that happened from twelve o'clock onwards.
So they might be around and they might be trying
to talk to people about what they do when they
leave the service, but they're not there and they're not
available to be able to service the needs that happen
(04:07):
once people leave that service.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
And do you, I mean, do you then feel as
though some of the other NGOs or non government organizations
and services you know, we spoke yesterday about larikiir for example,
those patrols helping out. Do you feel as though they're
all working together to try and minimize the impact of
antisocial behavior? I guess you know what I'm getting to is,
(04:29):
if Vinnie's are going to stay there at least, you know,
let's say, like best case scenario, maybe for another year,
what can be done to try to minimize the impact
in terms of all of these services actually working together
to minimize that impact.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Oh, there's a whole heap of work that could happen
in that space. So always improvements that can be made.
I know that organizations are doing what they can to
the best of their ability, but there's always improvements that
can be made in that space. I think that Larichi
Nation could definitely be more involved with people on the
ground and sort of being outside of that venue between
like from when the service closes or even from about
(05:07):
ten o'clock because people start to they come in for breakfast.
I've been into the venue as well and seeing what
the support are provided, and Katie, I'd have to say, like,
the service is absolutely needed. Yeah, it's a service that
the community needs. You know, people go in there they
get a feed, they're able to wash their clothes, they're
able to get support, service referrals, whether it's healthcare, whether
it's homelessness sort of support or emergency relief, housing support,
(05:33):
centering support, whatever it is that they need, there's the
ability for them to be able to get support with
that which we need. We need that service. But yeah,
I definitely think the Laroche Nation could jump on board
a little bit here and be around and be visible
in the area after the service closes, so that we
can support people leaving and see where they're going and
where they might need help to get to.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah. I guess the question is, so, like, is the
government adequately funding them to be able to do that?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh, look, not fully across all of the funding that
goes towards some of these NGOs. I know that, you know,
there is a lot of funding that goes out to
the door to them, and we do need to do
really good reviews of the funding and what outcomes that
funding is having. We need to be sort of auditing
to make sure that we're providing the money and it's
going to a service and there's getting outcomes. So yeah, yeah, yes,
(06:21):
the needs improvement.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Laurie someone else has just gotten in contact with us
and said, can you please ask the local member about
Orange Sky laundry service at per Rap shops every Sunday morning.
This person says, I know this is a great service
for those in need, but not all their clients are
doing the right thing. The service runs in the morning,
but their clients stay most of the day and then
end up drinking, and they're at the bus stops and
(06:44):
the shopping center at Perap. They're leaving a mess everywhere.
This person really questioning, you know, whether it's the appropriate location.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, and I don't disagree. So this is something that
happens in Perap right around the corner from my electric office,
so literally ten meters away from my elected office side.
I know what happens there. I'm not convinced that the
Orange Sky service is the reason for that antidosocial of behavior,
or you know, the reason that people are hanging around.
We've got a really unique area in Perap there where
(07:14):
we have quite high density public housing, we have green space,
and we have the prep tavern and the bottle shop
all in one really close proximity. So people are coming
to that area. Orange Sky provide a service where people
can come in and they can get their clothes wash.
They have washing machines inside the van, so they come
and can get that service. In addition to that, we
(07:35):
have a little it's not a pop up church, but
it's kind of a church inside the prep village there,
and the local people that live in that area they
come to that church service as well. So they're coming
to the church service, they're getting a feed there, and
they're also getting their closed washed. I'm not quite convinced
that the you know, the story of that's the reason
(07:55):
they're coming, is why we're getting that antisocial behavior. I
don't think that's the reason. I think they would kind
of be there anyway. Okay, because of the public housing,
because of the pub, because of the green space.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, all right, Laurie, we're gonna have to get ready
to wrap up, but just very quickly before I let
you go. In terms of Vinnie's and you know the
situation there at Coconut Grove, what are the next steps?
You know, what are you going to do as the
local member to try to really you know, advocate and
push for change that locals are calling for. They're to
say they do not want this service extended. In Coconut Grove.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah. Absolutely, so I have been working with a minister
and we're trying to come up with a solution. I've
been meetings with Saint Nuncy DePaul. They know that I'm
applause this, so this is nothing that's hidden from them.
They did a letter letter box drop saying that they
were going to be applying for the extension. A day later,
I did a letter box drop and said I'm opposed
to this and use some steps to follow if you
want to get in touch or you need help with
(08:49):
providing a submission. So the Development Consent to Authority. Submissions
close on the seventh of November, and there's ways that
people in the area that are affected by the service
PEO put their submission, So if they need help with that,
they can come and see us in our office and
papp we can help do a submission or provide that information.
Happy to help as much as we can that I'll
be working closely with the minister to try and make
(09:10):
sure we can get this outcome that the community is well.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Remember four Fanny Bay Laurie Zio really appreciate your time
this morning. Thanks so much for having a chat with us.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Thank you so much, Katie and I hope everybody has
a really great rest of their week.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Thank you you too.
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