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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A bit of a change of pace, because we spoke
quite a bit last week and we had a whole
lot of you get in contact with us last week
about nunamar Ridge. Now we know that there's been a
fresh bid from developers to build thousands of homes on
undeveloped land in Darwin's rural area, after a similar proposal
was rejected in twenty twenty due to opposition from locals.
(00:22):
Now Melbourne based developer Intrapac Property has written to the
Planning Minister Josh Burgoyne asking for an amendment to the
Northern Territories Planning Scheme to make way for that project,
set to be named Lloyd Creek not nunamar Ridge. I
do apologize Lloyd Creek rural Village. I think before it
was nunamar Ridge. Now the proposal would see four thousand
(00:44):
homes built south of Humptydo in an area which is
zoned for rural living. Now joining me on the line
is a member for Goid, Andrew McKay. I believe he
had a community meeting about this on the weekend. Good
morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Katie, and morning to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Good you did you have a meeting? Did you have
a meeting on the weekend with the with the public.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, so this this proposal has gone up again. So
I thought the best thing to do would be in
my job, would be to hear from people who'd be
directly affected by this proposal. So on Friday last week
I went out and I put a letter on everyone's
gates in the surrounding areas saying, hey, I want to
hear from you. Come on down. So Monday, the public holiday,
(01:30):
We've got about seventy people down to the village green
and basically I walked them through some of the details
about what's going on, because obviously not everyone refreshes the
Planning Scheme notices online every days. True, a bit of
it's a bit of a process sometimes. So what walked
them through that spoke about, you know, what is being
(01:53):
proposed this time because it is slightly it is different
from what was proposed a couple of years ago. The
number of activities center has changed in some of the
information as well as this is a Planning Scheme amendment
rather than the development approval, so it's slightly more technical
in nature. So had the crowd had Jerry would come along, yep,
(02:14):
I mean speaking of Jerry throughout this process, so he
gave his understanding of what's going on. Emma Sharp as well,
a local community member who was quite unfolved the last
time this came around. And then we just heard from
the community to see what concerns they actually have, and
people say.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like, what were some of the concerns that you'd heard
at that meeting. Were people opposed to it or for
us or was it a bit up in the air?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think probably speaking those that attended, there was a
strong sentiment against it, and part of that was the
concerns that have been raised around in particular traffic management. Right,
all this development happens, and it is happening over thirty years,
like it's not going to be an immediate tomorrow, but
you know what would happen to the Redcliffe Road or
(03:04):
Alvely Road or Elizabeth Villy Elizabeth Valley Road. You know
that kind of more local concern where they're like, well,
you know, would those roads? Would Redcliffe Road become another
Guirroene Road, Yeah, which is a number of traffic every morning.
And then you know storm water considerations there is some
flooding in the area, as well as the general concern
around sizing of blocks and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, and so from your perspective, I mean, obviously you've
heard the concerns of locals. You've you've spoken to those locals,
what like where too next? Because the developers obviously written
to the to the minister Josh Bergo and so we're
too next for you as the local member.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm organizing to have a follow up meeting, which the
original meeting I only letterbox the people neighboring that the
area just wanted to hear from the people who be
directly effective. So this time I'm opening it up to
the broader community. So this Sunday, I know it is
Mother's Day and can have a sleep in, But Monday,
at four pm I'll be at the Village Green again
(04:05):
and I'll be able to walk people through how to
make a submission as well as you hear any more
additional concerns. We have until Friday week to put in submissions,
and it is a It's not a hard process. If
you've never done it before, it can be a bit scary.
So I encourage everyone to put forward their concerns, any
(04:27):
feedback they have, whether they are for it or against
the development, to make sure that their voices are heard.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, look, I think it is such an important thing,
particularly you know for those living out in the area.
I mean, like, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think it's a unique approach to the way development
has occurred in the rural area. This is actually master
planning and area over thirty years, right. So the moment.
What happens with a lot of developments is people passle
off a action of land. They put as many roads
and houses as they can, and they never leave space
(05:04):
for things like parks and community areas and shopping centers
and schools and that kind of thing. So by having
a large parcel over a long term plan, those kind
of community services can be added. So there's some merit
in having this as a way going forward to have
these large scale proposals. Now, when it comes to the
(05:25):
actual size of the block and you know, the impact
on existing residents, that's my number one concern with any
development is how will it impact those that already lived
there and to make sure that that's managed well. But
it's a different way of doing things than we've done
in previously. And I went through Google Earth the other
(05:46):
day and I was like, well, what did the rural
area look like thirty years ago, right in nineteen ninety five,
what was there, what wasn't And you'll be surprised how
much has developed over the last thirty years. You know,
it's longer. I haven't been around for thirty years. Hopefully
in another couple of years i'll be thirty. But it's
been you know, lots of Herbert, lots of Howard's brings,
the back of Virginia B's Creek, whole swaye of Humpy Doo.
(06:08):
It's all happened in that last thirty years. And what
you haven't seen is new community parks. You haven't seen
is base for new schools and that kind of thing.
So but my job ultimately is to listen to the community,
and that's what I'm doing. So I've had people ring me.
Some people don't like going to meetings, and you know,
(06:28):
I've been meeting with as many people as possible, and
I encourage everyone to read through the documents put in
this permission, make sure your voice is heard, and I'll
continue to advocate for them.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, Andrew, I really appreciate you having a chat with
us this morning. So just a reminder to anybody out
there listening this morning that does want to have their say,
where's the best place for them to die?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So if you type in the Google MT planning notices
online and then you'll have to scroll down a little
bit and you'll see PA twenty twenty four slash zero
zero nine and that'll have all the documents there. You
can put in the submission on the website as well.
If you have any confusion about it, please reach out
to my electorate office. Come see me next to Domino's
(07:12):
and Wallies and call Linga and we can walk you
through it. We can print off documents because not everyone
is a fan of the technology we have.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Now yeah, well that is true. Andrew McKay, good to
catch up with you this morning. Mate, really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Member for goid Sorries, have a lovely day. Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Thank you
A bit of a change of pace, because we spoke
quite a bit last week and we had a whole
lot of you get in contact with us last week
about nunamar Ridge. Now we know that there's been a
fresh bid from developers to build thousands of homes on
undeveloped land in Darwin's rural area, after a similar proposal
was rejected in twenty twenty due to opposition from locals.
(00:22):
Now Melbourne based developer Intrapac Property has written to the
Planning Minister Josh Burgoyne asking for an amendment to the
Northern Territories Planning Scheme to make way for that project,
set to be named Lloyd Creek not nunamar Ridge. I
do apologize Lloyd Creek rural Village. I think before it
was nunamar Ridge. Now the proposal would see four thousand
(00:44):
homes built south of Humptydo in an area which is
zoned for rural living. Now joining me on the line
is a member for Goid, Andrew McKay. I believe he
had a community meeting about this on the weekend. Good
morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Katie, and morning to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Good you did you have a meeting? Did you have
a meeting on the weekend with the with the public.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, so this this proposal has gone up again. So
I thought the best thing to do would be in
my job, would be to hear from people who'd be
directly affected by this proposal. So on Friday last week
I went out and I put a letter on everyone's
gates in the surrounding areas saying, hey, I want to
hear from you. Come on down. So Monday, the public holiday,
(01:30):
We've got about seventy people down to the village green
and basically I walked them through some of the details
about what's going on, because obviously not everyone refreshes the
Planning Scheme notices online every days. True, a bit of
it's a bit of a process sometimes. So what walked
them through that spoke about, you know, what is being
(01:53):
proposed this time because it is slightly it is different
from what was proposed a couple of years ago. The
number of activities center has changed in some of the
information as well as this is a Planning Scheme amendment
rather than the development approval, so it's slightly more technical
in nature. So had the crowd had Jerry would come along, yep,
(02:14):
I mean speaking of Jerry throughout this process, so he
gave his understanding of what's going on. Emma Sharp as well,
a local community member who was quite unfolved the last
time this came around. And then we just heard from
the community to see what concerns they actually have, and
people say.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Like, what were some of the concerns that you'd heard
at that meeting. Were people opposed to it or for
us or was it a bit up in the air?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think probably speaking those that attended, there was a
strong sentiment against it, and part of that was the
concerns that have been raised around in particular traffic management. Right,
all this development happens, and it is happening over thirty years,
like it's not going to be an immediate tomorrow, but
you know what would happen to the Redcliffe Road or
(03:04):
Alvely Road or Elizabeth Villy Elizabeth Valley Road. You know
that kind of more local concern where they're like, well,
you know, would those roads? Would Redcliffe Road become another
Guirroene Road, Yeah, which is a number of traffic every morning.
And then you know storm water considerations there is some
flooding in the area, as well as the general concern
around sizing of blocks and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, and so from your perspective, I mean, obviously you've
heard the concerns of locals. You've you've spoken to those locals,
what like where too next? Because the developers obviously written
to the to the minister Josh Bergo and so we're
too next for you as the local member.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm organizing to have a follow up meeting, which the
original meeting I only letterbox the people neighboring that the
area just wanted to hear from the people who be
directly effective. So this time I'm opening it up to
the broader community. So this Sunday, I know it is
Mother's Day and can have a sleep in, But Monday,
at four pm I'll be at the Village Green again
(04:05):
and I'll be able to walk people through how to
make a submission as well as you hear any more
additional concerns. We have until Friday week to put in submissions,
and it is a It's not a hard process. If
you've never done it before, it can be a bit scary.
So I encourage everyone to put forward their concerns, any
(04:27):
feedback they have, whether they are for it or against
the development, to make sure that their voices are heard.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, look, I think it is such an important thing,
particularly you know for those living out in the area.
I mean, like, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I think it's a unique approach to the way development
has occurred in the rural area. This is actually master
planning and area over thirty years, right. So the moment.
What happens with a lot of developments is people passle
off a action of land. They put as many roads
and houses as they can, and they never leave space
(05:04):
for things like parks and community areas and shopping centers
and schools and that kind of thing. So by having
a large parcel over a long term plan, those kind
of community services can be added. So there's some merit
in having this as a way going forward to have
these large scale proposals. Now, when it comes to the
(05:25):
actual size of the block and you know, the impact
on existing residents, that's my number one concern with any
development is how will it impact those that already lived
there and to make sure that that's managed well. But
it's a different way of doing things than we've done
in previously. And I went through Google Earth the other
(05:46):
day and I was like, well, what did the rural
area look like thirty years ago, right in nineteen ninety five,
what was there, what wasn't And you'll be surprised how
much has developed over the last thirty years. You know,
it's longer. I haven't been around for thirty years. Hopefully
in another couple of years i'll be thirty. But it's
been you know, lots of Herbert, lots of Howard's brings,
the back of Virginia B's Creek, whole swaye of Humpy Doo.
(06:08):
It's all happened in that last thirty years. And what
you haven't seen is new community parks. You haven't seen
is base for new schools and that kind of thing.
So but my job ultimately is to listen to the community,
and that's what I'm doing. So I've had people ring me.
Some people don't like going to meetings, and you know,
(06:28):
I've been meeting with as many people as possible, and
I encourage everyone to read through the documents put in
this permission, make sure your voice is heard, and I'll
continue to advocate for them.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Well, Andrew, I really appreciate you having a chat with
us this morning. So just a reminder to anybody out
there listening this morning that does want to have their say,
where's the best place for them to die?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So if you type in the Google MT planning notices
online and then you'll have to scroll down a little
bit and you'll see PA twenty twenty four slash zero
zero nine and that'll have all the documents there. You
can put in the submission on the website as well.
If you have any confusion about it, please reach out
to my electorate office. Come see me next to Domino's
(07:12):
and Wallies and call Linga and we can walk you
through it. We can print off documents because not everyone
is a fan of the technology we have.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Now yeah, well that is true. Andrew McKay, good to
catch up with you this morning. Mate, really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Member for goid Sorries, have a lovely day. Thank you too.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Thank you
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