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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tell you what busy morning in here as always, and
joining me live in the studio is the Federal Member
for Solomon, Luke Goslin. Good morning to you, Luke.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Morning Katie. It feels like a Wednesday for something. It was.
The weekend was so busy.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I know, I wish it was, but it's Monday. It's
Monday morning. The whole week to get through. Yes, it
wasn't a beautiful weather today. Everybody's feeling cool, but we're
all sort of feeling refreshed as well with the nice weather, Luke,
I wanted to have a chat to you about this
situation with health Scope. Obviously you and I have discussed
the issue with the maternity services on a few occasions.
(00:37):
But what we know as well is it's being reported
by various national publications that health Scopes Board last week
have effectively pleaded for bankers to take control of the hospitals,
allowing its brook Field back directors to walk away. Now
we know that here in Darwin that Healthscope has obviously
got the Darwin private Hospital. Have you had discussions with
(01:01):
the Health Minister about this what this could potentially mean
for us here in Darwin at this point?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, I have but over a number of months. I mean,
I think it's worthwhile just for people to remember that
this is absolute amateur hour from the CLP, given that
they knew the attorney services were going to be ceased
in September last year, so they've had all this time
to get ready for it. They've come up with what
(01:29):
I reckon is pretty subpar solution with the hotels. I mean,
everyone knows who stays in hotels, right, travelers with all
the bugs. It's like being on a plane and you know,
any fluid that comes through, you got the air cons
and it's just not ideal. Right, But we've had to
come up with this sort of solution of sorts because
(01:52):
of the incompetence of the ant health Minister, who the
Federal Department of Health reached out over the last couple
of months. What do you need? How can we help Nana.
We're right, we've got it covered. Yes. Then last week.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Quite unbelievable that they didn't reach out to the FEDS sooner.
I mean we asked this of the Health Minister just
last week, and the week prior now he had said
that he's reached out. He's asked for thirty five million
dollars to revamp the Royal Darwin Hospital. Is a health minister,
the federal health minister likely to come to the table
(02:32):
with that amount of money.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So worse than that, not only was he not seeking assistance,
we were actively saying to him, how can we help,
even though there was a bit of reticence given that
they're a private company and they should be looking after
their customers because the customers have certainly been paying them.
But there's a couple of options. So last week post election,
(02:56):
you know, maybe they didn't want to give federal labor
something that talk about during the election. Who knows, that's
something that the CLP Health ministers to wrestle with himself.
But last week a letter has come saying, oh yeah,
we need some assistance. There's a lower quantity being asked
(03:19):
for than ten million, and sorry that's ten million, and
then there's a thirty five million, so two options, but
of course no detail. It's just can we have this money?
So what the CLPNT government needs to do is do
the work. Do the work, get something to the federal
(03:40):
government that says this is our plan for providing maternity
health services to territories going forward, and we need X
to be able to do.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Why So, look, you're saying they've not done that. They've
not provided the detail of where the ten million dollars
would go or what it would provide at Royal Hospital.
And they've not given the level of detail for what
that thirty five million dollars would go towards.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
As it's been explained to me. And I'm getting a
full of briefing on Friday in Canberra along with some
defense and other briefingsp is that pretty much could have
been done better by a year twelve student who has said, hey, mate,
can you just whip us together a letter to the
Commonwealth saying we've got these issues that we need some
(04:29):
help with. Because of course the Federal Health Department is
quite aware of the issues because they've been asking the
NT how they can help for many, many months. So
now that the request for help has come, they haven't
done their homework. There's not enough detail. So that's what
we're waiting for.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I mean, I guess on the other side of this,
people could be saying to themselves, we'll hang on a sect.
The federal government's in charge nationally when it comes to
our health care system. Why wasn't something done sooner, not
just here in the Northern Territory, but across the board.
And what's going to happen now, because if we wind
up in a situation where health scope falls over, what
impact is that going to have right across the nation
(05:09):
on any of the health systems in which location those
private hospitals could fall.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, sustainability of the private health systems obviously are concerned
of the federal government and that's why Mark Butler the minister,
and he'd be happy to come on and give an
update and talk through it. That's why he set up
a task force because it was pretty plain that the
more greedy corporations are, the more they squirrel away profits
rather than reinvesting into their businesses, and their predilection to
(05:40):
flip assets to maximize their profits just means that the
private hospital here will probably have new owners sometime in
the future. And what we want to make sure is
that our public system is strong enough and has what
it needs to be able to look after territories.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So look just from the outside looking in, you know,
to me, I think to myself, after speaking to some
of those expectant mums, yes, there absolutely should have been
a plan in place sooner. And you know, it does
boggle my mind that the Health Minister knew about this
situation as early as last year, but didn't request assistance
from the Federal government until just a couple of weeks
(06:23):
ago or a week ago week ago. But nonetheless, I know,
to those mums that are listening this morning, and to
anybody that's got private health listening this morning, what they're
gonna want to be sure of is that the Northern
Territory and the Federal government can work together to deliver
the best possible health outcomes for Territorians. So to those
(06:43):
listening this morning, is the Federal government seriously considering providing
some funding to the Northern Territory health system to make
sure that you know, those Northern Territory mums are going
to get the care that they need and that we're
gonna have they at Royal Dalen Hospital to be able
to deal with the additional two hundred to three hundred
(07:05):
berths each year.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Obviously, it would have been better to start last year
knowing that this was coming, but you know, that's something
that the NT Health Minister has to explain and reconcile.
But of course we are standing by to assist. But
they've got to do the work. I mean, they have
to provide information to the federal Health Minister about how
(07:27):
they're going to utilize this fund. We're not going to
just send them. We've already provided an additional thirty percent
for NT health funding. So the reason that in the
NT budget there's record health funding is because the federal
government has given the NT government a record amount of
health funding up thirty percent. And that's the deal with
the challenges that we all know are there, but they
(07:50):
have to do the work. They have to provide the
information about this money will be used to do XYZ
and that's needed because of these reasons that hasn't occurred.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
All right, Look, let's move along because no doubt you
and I are going to talk further about that situation
with the health funding, I'm sure over the coming weeks.
But we also know that a new location has been
an ounced now for the Casarina Youth Hub. It's something
you and I have spoken about in the past. Obviously,
the federal funding is there, it's ready to go. It's
set to be built now though at the Leanna Recreation
(08:24):
Park precinct. Due to concerns the COLP government sees about
the initial site at the old Casarina fire station. What's
your reaction to the new location?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Does anyone do any work in the anti government? I
mean seriously, nine months of stalling, So the site at
Casarina was cleared of the old Casarina fire station or
the soil PFAZ contaminat all, that's gone, espestos gone, just
greenfield site now ready to build on. Nine months later
they choose a different site. That's not what industry you want,
(08:56):
and as I understand it, not what some of the
local residents out there want either. We have an opportunity now,
it could have been almost finished a youth hub at
Casarina at that site, but nothing's been done and they've
chosen the site and now they're going to start consultation.
(09:17):
So they've made a decision without consultation, whereas in the
past all that consultation was done with the Kasarina site.
So just it boggles the mind. Where are the boot camps,
where are the youth diversion where? I mean, we've got
a situation where Katie, it just blows my mind. Your
interview with the Chief Minister. She's trying to say the
(09:39):
Chief minister is trying to say that making cheap alcohol
even cheaper, and in particular wine. And let's not forget
the stabbing murder in Nightcliff that occurred not that long
ago was over wine, a bottle of cheap wine, allegedly
allegedly before the investigation. But you know, that's what someone
(10:02):
said to me, was there, you know, So let's get
so you.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Think they need to get really serious about well, I mean, they've,
like I guess the problem is they've made that change
allowing that cheaper wine to be purchased. But she'd said
on the show earlier today that you know that that
cost saving hasn't been passed on to consumers anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
As she understands it, I think was the caveat. I mean,
let's get real. I mean, serving police officers, former police officers,
you ask them what's driving crime? Alcohol? Overwhelmingly alcohol. So
why did we make cheap alcohol even cheaper? We know
the yellowtail thing. I mean, that's that's not coming from
labor people in Catherine. That's coming from people.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Who business signers. Business was dealing with the issues there
and Catherine.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So let's get real about what's driving a lot of
the crime. And let's start actually doing something about the driver.
Let's build the facilities that will keep kids going the
right way, Let's divert the kids. And why aren't those
facilities built almost nine months down the track. I mean,
(11:12):
it just seems that they think that jailing more people
is just going to fix everything, and it's just pretty
mind boggling. The lack of leadership in this current anti
government is mind boggling. I've said to you, Katie, I'm
going to work with the NT government. We're bringing record
funding into the ant government. The anti government's budget is over.
(11:33):
It's about three quarters federal funding. Nine and every ten
dollars in the territory comes from the federal government through
one way or another. So we are full partners with
the territory, but we expect them one to do the work,
to show some leadership.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, it looks. I mean, there's definitely some strong words
from you this morning towards the COLP government. Are you
confident that you're going to be able to work with
them over the next three years to deliver on some
of these outcomes.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, of course I am, because we've got no choice.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I mean, keep in mind that labor got absolutely smashed
in the Northern Territory as well at the end of
last year. So it's I mean, it's what the people
of the Northern Territory want and expect.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, they wanted action on crime. They didn't want higher
crime rates, and that's what we've got at the moment,
higher crime rates. Keep in mind, Katie, that the crime rates.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Have been astronomical for the last eight years, so as well. Look,
so I don't think that you can just sort of
wash away and at the garbage behavior that we've been
seeing for the last eight years. And you also can't
deny the fact that the former government seemed to stop listening.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Well, I think a lot of Territorians would argue that
if there was a change in direction, because towards the
end of NT labor there was a change in direction,
there was a hardening of policies. I don't I think
a lot of your listeners would say that. But they
certainly sent the people certainly sent a very strong message. Well,
let's consider my election, where it was crime, crime, crime,
(13:03):
that's what it was basically fought on. But I think
one's it's a testament of the intelligence of Territorians that
they saw that federal issues and federal support of the territory.
The territory always does better under federal labor. We fund
the territory more, we understand the issues better, and that
(13:26):
got us the result that it did. But it's not
something I take for granted. But if you consider Caddie,
that that mandate that the Chief Minister got last August,
it was to take action and to fix crime, drivers
of crime, and it wasn't just about bail laws and
fiddling around the edges. It was to take action around crime.
(13:48):
And if you consider that in my electorate of Solomon,
there is not one Labor MLA, There are twelve COLP,
there is one Green and there is one Independent. So
if you can sit that all of those people, all
of those CLP people campaigned against me on crime. If
there was a message here, it's that they want real
(14:09):
solutions on crime and they've got they want the CLP
to take responsibility.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Look, the text line is going off. People are saying
that you're playing politics, you're swinging votes, going to go
against him at the next election, reckons Paul. Somebody else
has said Luke is gaslighting you to your face, Katie.
Someone else saying, where's Aldi and where was Luke last year?
They're all from different people. Look, and the thing is
for me is I'm actually not really interested in getting
(14:37):
into a slanging match, like I want to work constructively
with you and with the Northern Territory government. Of course
in my job, which is bringing the voice of everyday
territorians to you guys to make sure that you're aware
of the issues. But I suppose what I want to
make sure of as well is that we get to
the point where we're sorting through these issues where we
are able to see the Northern Territory thrive in the
(15:00):
way that we all want it to.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Do you think your listeners believe that there should be
more accountability than the Chief Minister coming onto your show
and you asking her a whole heap of questions which
and I listened they were good questions, I don't think
they were honest answers sometimes to be honest, and I
think your listeners would have heard the voice quake a
couple of times when perhaps less than the full truth
(15:25):
was told. But at the end of the day, do
I have a responsibility when there is not one single
MLA from labor in Darwen and Palmerston you do it
because crime affects people in Darwen and Palmerston and when
there's more that can be done. I'm just going to
point out where more can be done, but doesn't mean
that I'm going to do like I am in Canberra
on Friday getting updates on where the funding is coming
(15:49):
next for the builds, the defense build the fourteen to
eighteen billion over the decade ahead, eighteen billion being the floor.
By the way, we need that funding to come because
it's important for jobs. We need people in the communities
to be working. And that's MELANDERI McCarthy, that's Marian Scrimgaw
getting to work, doing the hard work required to make
(16:12):
sure that people think there's some hope. The best they
can hope for is not going into Catherine drinking a
heap of yellow tail, getting blind, domestic violence, assaults on
the street, you know, breaking into properties that needs to
be worked through.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
There is no doubt that that needs to be worked through. Luke,
I am going to have to leave it there because
speaking of hard working people, well, the Territory Response Manager
from Saint John is about to join me. As always
thank you for your time today.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He will tell you how busy is thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
He definitely is good on your thanks Louke
Tell you what busy morning in here as always, and
joining me live in the studio is the Federal Member
for Solomon, Luke Goslin. Good morning to you, Luke.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Morning Katie. It feels like a Wednesday for something. It was.
The weekend was so busy.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I know, I wish it was, but it's Monday. It's
Monday morning. The whole week to get through. Yes, it
wasn't a beautiful weather today. Everybody's feeling cool, but we're
all sort of feeling refreshed as well with the nice weather, Luke,
I wanted to have a chat to you about this
situation with health Scope. Obviously you and I have discussed
the issue with the maternity services on a few occasions.
(00:37):
But what we know as well is it's being reported
by various national publications that health Scopes Board last week
have effectively pleaded for bankers to take control of the hospitals,
allowing its brook Field back directors to walk away. Now
we know that here in Darwin that Healthscope has obviously
got the Darwin private Hospital. Have you had discussions with
(01:01):
the Health Minister about this what this could potentially mean
for us here in Darwin at this point?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, I have but over a number of months. I mean,
I think it's worthwhile just for people to remember that
this is absolute amateur hour from the CLP, given that
they knew the attorney services were going to be ceased
in September last year, so they've had all this time
to get ready for it. They've come up with what
(01:29):
I reckon is pretty subpar solution with the hotels. I mean,
everyone knows who stays in hotels, right, travelers with all
the bugs. It's like being on a plane and you know,
any fluid that comes through, you got the air cons
and it's just not ideal. Right, But we've had to
come up with this sort of solution of sorts because
(01:52):
of the incompetence of the ant health Minister, who the
Federal Department of Health reached out over the last couple
of months. What do you need? How can we help Nana.
We're right, we've got it covered. Yes. Then last week.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Quite unbelievable that they didn't reach out to the FEDS sooner.
I mean we asked this of the Health Minister just
last week, and the week prior now he had said
that he's reached out. He's asked for thirty five million
dollars to revamp the Royal Darwin Hospital. Is a health minister,
the federal health minister likely to come to the table
(02:32):
with that amount of money.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So worse than that, not only was he not seeking assistance,
we were actively saying to him, how can we help,
even though there was a bit of reticence given that
they're a private company and they should be looking after
their customers because the customers have certainly been paying them.
But there's a couple of options. So last week post election,
(02:56):
you know, maybe they didn't want to give federal labor
something that talk about during the election. Who knows, that's
something that the CLP Health ministers to wrestle with himself.
But last week a letter has come saying, oh yeah,
we need some assistance. There's a lower quantity being asked
(03:19):
for than ten million, and sorry that's ten million, and
then there's a thirty five million, so two options, but
of course no detail. It's just can we have this money?
So what the CLPNT government needs to do is do
the work. Do the work, get something to the federal
(03:40):
government that says this is our plan for providing maternity
health services to territories going forward, and we need X
to be able to do.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Why So, look, you're saying they've not done that. They've
not provided the detail of where the ten million dollars
would go or what it would provide at Royal Hospital.
And they've not given the level of detail for what
that thirty five million dollars would go towards.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
As it's been explained to me. And I'm getting a
full of briefing on Friday in Canberra along with some
defense and other briefingsp is that pretty much could have
been done better by a year twelve student who has said, hey, mate,
can you just whip us together a letter to the
Commonwealth saying we've got these issues that we need some
(04:29):
help with. Because of course the Federal Health Department is
quite aware of the issues because they've been asking the
NT how they can help for many, many months. So
now that the request for help has come, they haven't
done their homework. There's not enough detail. So that's what
we're waiting for.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I mean, I guess on the other side of this,
people could be saying to themselves, we'll hang on a sect.
The federal government's in charge nationally when it comes to
our health care system. Why wasn't something done sooner, not
just here in the Northern Territory, but across the board.
And what's going to happen now, because if we wind
up in a situation where health scope falls over, what
impact is that going to have right across the nation
(05:09):
on any of the health systems in which location those
private hospitals could fall.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, sustainability of the private health systems obviously are concerned
of the federal government and that's why Mark Butler the minister,
and he'd be happy to come on and give an
update and talk through it. That's why he set up
a task force because it was pretty plain that the
more greedy corporations are, the more they squirrel away profits
rather than reinvesting into their businesses, and their predilection to
(05:40):
flip assets to maximize their profits just means that the
private hospital here will probably have new owners sometime in
the future. And what we want to make sure is
that our public system is strong enough and has what
it needs to be able to look after territories.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So look just from the outside looking in, you know,
to me, I think to myself, after speaking to some
of those expectant mums, yes, there absolutely should have been
a plan in place sooner. And you know, it does
boggle my mind that the Health Minister knew about this
situation as early as last year, but didn't request assistance
from the Federal government until just a couple of weeks
(06:23):
ago or a week ago week ago. But nonetheless, I know,
to those mums that are listening this morning, and to
anybody that's got private health listening this morning, what they're
gonna want to be sure of is that the Northern
Territory and the Federal government can work together to deliver
the best possible health outcomes for Territorians. So to those
(06:43):
listening this morning, is the Federal government seriously considering providing
some funding to the Northern Territory health system to make
sure that you know, those Northern Territory mums are going
to get the care that they need and that we're
gonna have they at Royal Dalen Hospital to be able
to deal with the additional two hundred to three hundred
(07:05):
berths each year.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Obviously, it would have been better to start last year
knowing that this was coming, but you know, that's something
that the NT Health Minister has to explain and reconcile.
But of course we are standing by to assist. But
they've got to do the work. I mean, they have
to provide information to the federal Health Minister about how
(07:27):
they're going to utilize this fund. We're not going to
just send them. We've already provided an additional thirty percent
for NT health funding. So the reason that in the
NT budget there's record health funding is because the federal
government has given the NT government a record amount of
health funding up thirty percent. And that's the deal with
the challenges that we all know are there, but they
(07:50):
have to do the work. They have to provide the
information about this money will be used to do XYZ
and that's needed because of these reasons that hasn't occurred.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
All right, Look, let's move along because no doubt you
and I are going to talk further about that situation
with the health funding, I'm sure over the coming weeks.
But we also know that a new location has been
an ounced now for the Casarina Youth Hub. It's something
you and I have spoken about in the past. Obviously,
the federal funding is there, it's ready to go. It's
set to be built now though at the Leanna Recreation
(08:24):
Park precinct. Due to concerns the COLP government sees about
the initial site at the old Casarina fire station. What's
your reaction to the new location?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Does anyone do any work in the anti government? I
mean seriously, nine months of stalling, So the site at
Casarina was cleared of the old Casarina fire station or
the soil PFAZ contaminat all, that's gone, espestos gone, just
greenfield site now ready to build on. Nine months later
they choose a different site. That's not what industry you want,
(08:56):
and as I understand it, not what some of the
local residents out there want either. We have an opportunity now,
it could have been almost finished a youth hub at
Casarina at that site, but nothing's been done and they've
chosen the site and now they're going to start consultation.
(09:17):
So they've made a decision without consultation, whereas in the
past all that consultation was done with the Kasarina site.
So just it boggles the mind. Where are the boot camps,
where are the youth diversion where? I mean, we've got
a situation where Katie, it just blows my mind. Your
interview with the Chief Minister. She's trying to say the
(09:39):
Chief minister is trying to say that making cheap alcohol
even cheaper, and in particular wine. And let's not forget
the stabbing murder in Nightcliff that occurred not that long
ago was over wine, a bottle of cheap wine, allegedly
allegedly before the investigation. But you know, that's what someone
(10:02):
said to me, was there, you know, So let's get
so you.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Think they need to get really serious about well, I mean, they've,
like I guess the problem is they've made that change
allowing that cheaper wine to be purchased. But she'd said
on the show earlier today that you know that that
cost saving hasn't been passed on to consumers anyway.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
As she understands it, I think was the caveat. I mean,
let's get real. I mean, serving police officers, former police officers,
you ask them what's driving crime? Alcohol? Overwhelmingly alcohol. So
why did we make cheap alcohol even cheaper? We know
the yellowtail thing. I mean, that's that's not coming from
labor people in Catherine. That's coming from people.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Who business signers. Business was dealing with the issues there
and Catherine.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
So let's get real about what's driving a lot of
the crime. And let's start actually doing something about the driver.
Let's build the facilities that will keep kids going the
right way, Let's divert the kids. And why aren't those
facilities built almost nine months down the track. I mean,
(11:12):
it just seems that they think that jailing more people
is just going to fix everything, and it's just pretty
mind boggling. The lack of leadership in this current anti
government is mind boggling. I've said to you, Katie, I'm
going to work with the NT government. We're bringing record
funding into the ant government. The anti government's budget is over.
(11:33):
It's about three quarters federal funding. Nine and every ten
dollars in the territory comes from the federal government through
one way or another. So we are full partners with
the territory, but we expect them one to do the work,
to show some leadership.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, it looks. I mean, there's definitely some strong words
from you this morning towards the COLP government. Are you
confident that you're going to be able to work with
them over the next three years to deliver on some
of these outcomes.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, of course I am, because we've got no choice.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I mean, keep in mind that labor got absolutely smashed
in the Northern Territory as well at the end of
last year. So it's I mean, it's what the people
of the Northern Territory want and expect.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, they wanted action on crime. They didn't want higher
crime rates, and that's what we've got at the moment,
higher crime rates. Keep in mind, Katie, that the crime rates.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Have been astronomical for the last eight years, so as well. Look,
so I don't think that you can just sort of
wash away and at the garbage behavior that we've been
seeing for the last eight years. And you also can't
deny the fact that the former government seemed to stop listening.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Well, I think a lot of Territorians would argue that
if there was a change in direction, because towards the
end of NT labor there was a change in direction,
there was a hardening of policies. I don't I think
a lot of your listeners would say that. But they
certainly sent the people certainly sent a very strong message. Well,
let's consider my election, where it was crime, crime, crime,
(13:03):
that's what it was basically fought on. But I think
one's it's a testament of the intelligence of Territorians that
they saw that federal issues and federal support of the territory.
The territory always does better under federal labor. We fund
the territory more, we understand the issues better, and that
(13:26):
got us the result that it did. But it's not
something I take for granted. But if you consider Caddie,
that that mandate that the Chief Minister got last August,
it was to take action and to fix crime, drivers
of crime, and it wasn't just about bail laws and
fiddling around the edges. It was to take action around crime.
(13:48):
And if you consider that in my electorate of Solomon,
there is not one Labor MLA, There are twelve COLP,
there is one Green and there is one Independent. So
if you can sit that all of those people, all
of those CLP people campaigned against me on crime. If
there was a message here, it's that they want real
(14:09):
solutions on crime and they've got they want the CLP
to take responsibility.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Look, the text line is going off. People are saying
that you're playing politics, you're swinging votes, going to go
against him at the next election, reckons Paul. Somebody else
has said Luke is gaslighting you to your face, Katie.
Someone else saying, where's Aldi and where was Luke last year?
They're all from different people. Look, and the thing is
for me is I'm actually not really interested in getting
(14:37):
into a slanging match, like I want to work constructively
with you and with the Northern Territory government. Of course
in my job, which is bringing the voice of everyday
territorians to you guys to make sure that you're aware
of the issues. But I suppose what I want to
make sure of as well is that we get to
the point where we're sorting through these issues where we
are able to see the Northern Territory thrive in the
(15:00):
way that we all want it to.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Do you think your listeners believe that there should be
more accountability than the Chief Minister coming onto your show
and you asking her a whole heap of questions which
and I listened they were good questions, I don't think
they were honest answers sometimes to be honest, and I
think your listeners would have heard the voice quake a
couple of times when perhaps less than the full truth
(15:25):
was told. But at the end of the day, do
I have a responsibility when there is not one single
MLA from labor in Darwen and Palmerston you do it
because crime affects people in Darwen and Palmerston and when
there's more that can be done. I'm just going to
point out where more can be done, but doesn't mean
that I'm going to do like I am in Canberra
on Friday getting updates on where the funding is coming
(15:49):
next for the builds, the defense build the fourteen to
eighteen billion over the decade ahead, eighteen billion being the floor.
By the way, we need that funding to come because
it's important for jobs. We need people in the communities
to be working. And that's MELANDERI McCarthy, that's Marian Scrimgaw
getting to work, doing the hard work required to make
(16:12):
sure that people think there's some hope. The best they
can hope for is not going into Catherine drinking a
heap of yellow tail, getting blind, domestic violence, assaults on
the street, you know, breaking into properties that needs to
be worked through.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
There is no doubt that that needs to be worked through. Luke,
I am going to have to leave it there because
speaking of hard working people, well, the Territory Response Manager
from Saint John is about to join me. As always
thank you for your time today.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
He will tell you how busy is thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
He definitely is good on your thanks Louke
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