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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But look what we know is as part of the
changes that have been announced to cop government is set
to introduce, debate and pass new ram raid laws which
carry up to ten years jail when Parliament sits next week.
So under this legislation, police are going to be able
to charge offenders who have stolen a vehicle and used
it as a weapon to damage property or gain entry
(00:21):
to a building. Now some examples of property are business homes,
police and private vehicles. And the Chief Minister, Leo Finocchio
said only last week that the nation had watched in
horror when a stolen car in Alice Springs was used
to ram a police vehicle. Now joining me on the
line is someone who knows all too well the impacts
(00:42):
of ram raids. His business was just last week targeted
with thousands of dollars in damage caused. Moyle Supermarket owner
for Deep Palis Army, joins me on the line right now.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Good morning to you, p Deep, Good morning Ed all
you yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Good, Thank you so much for your time on this morning. Mike,
tell me what happened last week with the ram ride.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, so what happened last week is about early morning
of Friday, about two thirty. The people with the stolen car,
I think it's a Mitchibishi peggio. So focus on adult.
They lamplide my shop, they get in shopped, they know,
in and out of my shop. And they took around
thirty forty bottles of alcohol and they tried to break
(01:27):
in the smokes but they can't do it. And this
massive window. Think they took pittill out of my counter. Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So in terms of you know how much they stole
in money and stock, how much is that going to
cost you?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, the thing is the stock they stole out of
the you know, the liquors they stole would cost her
on I don't know, maybe around five thousand dollars. But
the till by itself maybe cost thousand to two thousand dollars.
But the damage they did to the shop, it's going
to cast his fortune maybe another twenty grand something other,
you know, because you need to pick the shutter, which
(02:07):
I can't go through my insurance because it's a part
of the building. Then there's another process and we have
to make another security improvement as well, because I thought
myself is more secured, you know, Yeah, I got a
code already. I have to spend another ten to fifteen
grand on top of it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's horrifying for you. That is such a huge impost
on you as a business owner and on your business.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's hard. It's hard. It's hard because we, like last year,
we spent a lot of money to secure those places.
You know, now I have to do more.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Secure How much is that going to cost you? Then
to do more security to make sure that it can't
happen again, or to try and minimize it from happening again.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So another twenty grand. So I got a code for
just for a couple of girls. So that's going to
cost me like ten brands. So I'm thinking of putting
a ball out to the backside, and I'm thinking of
cursing the back with another grill, you know, the industrial group.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, oh goodness me prettyep I mean, there is no
doubt that these ram raids are having a massive impact
on businesses around the Northern Territory. Over the last few years,
I've spoken to a lot of business owners like you
who've unfortunately been in very similar situations. We now know
(03:22):
that the new Northern Territory government says that they're going
to introduce harsher penalties do you think that's going to work.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's good at least the sheep missed Elia Liah made
some strict laws and she promises going to bring new laws.
Orb it works for Orienty business owners, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hope it does too. I mean, when you look at
what has happened to your business, and when you look
at some of the crime that you've seen around the
Northern Territory, I mean, how hard does it make it
for you to do business when things are going the
way that they have been for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
The sad As you spoke to some of you guys earlier,
it said, like, you know, I've been in the Celific
for fifteen years, yep, But last couple of years, maybe
last three four years, it's getting worse and worse, you know.
But but I don't know. For some reason, last six
months we feel we felt better, you know. Yeah, I thought,
you know, the clime has gone a little bit down.
I can't see people around, you know, people, you know,
(04:22):
so I thought I started getting better, and all of sudden,
you know, we've got lamp right.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh, your poor bugger. That's a terrible situation to find
yourself in. And and you know, and and again, it
just makes it incredibly difficult to do business in terms
of you know, what it means for you insurance wise
as well. I mean, like do your insurance costs go
up when things like this happen and does see you know,
(04:48):
the on flow ongoing have an impact of course.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Of course, because if you're going to put a claim,
you need to pay more. Yeah, and you know these
insurance bodies, you know, they don't want to, you know,
give for everything we claim. You know, it's part up
the building. It's not a responsibility, it's not covered you know. Yeah,
I make it a large If my lige is at
on ten grand, you're going to give me seven or
(05:13):
eight or you know, they will come with some negotiations.
You really need to put some money out of your pocket.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah. So, by the sounds of it, you are definitely
hoping that this legislation that's coming into Parliament next week
is going to make a big difference.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Of course, of course, yeah, yeah, oh pre.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Deep, I hope so as well, and I think that
a lot of people in the Northern Territory are hoping
so too, that it's going to make a difference and
that it's hopefully going to help business owners like yourself,
so that we don't see the same the same issues
that we have been experiencing now for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah yeah, pret deep.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Thank you so much for having a chat with me
this morning. I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No problem yet. Thank you so much for your call.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Thank you
But look what we know is as part of the
changes that have been announced to cop government is set
to introduce, debate and pass new ram raid laws which
carry up to ten years jail when Parliament sits next week.
So under this legislation, police are going to be able
to charge offenders who have stolen a vehicle and used
it as a weapon to damage property or gain entry
(00:21):
to a building. Now some examples of property are business homes,
police and private vehicles. And the Chief Minister, Leo Finocchio
said only last week that the nation had watched in
horror when a stolen car in Alice Springs was used
to ram a police vehicle. Now joining me on the
line is someone who knows all too well the impacts
(00:42):
of ram raids. His business was just last week targeted
with thousands of dollars in damage caused. Moyle Supermarket owner
for Deep Palis Army, joins me on the line right now.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Good morning to you, p Deep, Good morning Ed all
you yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Good, Thank you so much for your time on this morning. Mike,
tell me what happened last week with the ram ride.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, so what happened last week is about early morning
of Friday, about two thirty. The people with the stolen car,
I think it's a Mitchibishi peggio. So focus on adult.
They lamplide my shop, they get in shopped, they know,
in and out of my shop. And they took around
thirty forty bottles of alcohol and they tried to break
(01:27):
in the smokes but they can't do it. And this
massive window. Think they took pittill out of my counter. Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So in terms of you know how much they stole
in money and stock, how much is that going to
cost you?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, the thing is the stock they stole out of
the you know, the liquors they stole would cost her
on I don't know, maybe around five thousand dollars. But
the till by itself maybe cost thousand to two thousand dollars.
But the damage they did to the shop, it's going
to cast his fortune maybe another twenty grand something other,
you know, because you need to pick the shutter, which
(02:07):
I can't go through my insurance because it's a part
of the building. Then there's another process and we have
to make another security improvement as well, because I thought
myself is more secured, you know, Yeah, I got a
code already. I have to spend another ten to fifteen
grand on top of it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's horrifying for you. That is such a huge impost
on you as a business owner and on your business.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's hard. It's hard. It's hard because we, like last year,
we spent a lot of money to secure those places.
You know, now I have to do more.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Secure How much is that going to cost you? Then
to do more security to make sure that it can't
happen again, or to try and minimize it from happening again.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
So another twenty grand. So I got a code for
just for a couple of girls. So that's going to
cost me like ten brands. So I'm thinking of putting
a ball out to the backside, and I'm thinking of
cursing the back with another grill, you know, the industrial group.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, oh goodness me prettyep I mean, there is no
doubt that these ram raids are having a massive impact
on businesses around the Northern Territory. Over the last few years,
I've spoken to a lot of business owners like you
who've unfortunately been in very similar situations. We now know
(03:22):
that the new Northern Territory government says that they're going
to introduce harsher penalties do you think that's going to work.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
It's good at least the sheep missed Elia Liah made
some strict laws and she promises going to bring new laws.
Orb it works for Orienty business owners, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hope it does too. I mean, when you look at
what has happened to your business, and when you look
at some of the crime that you've seen around the
Northern Territory, I mean, how hard does it make it
for you to do business when things are going the
way that they have been for the last few years.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
The sad As you spoke to some of you guys earlier,
it said, like, you know, I've been in the Celific
for fifteen years, yep, But last couple of years, maybe
last three four years, it's getting worse and worse, you know.
But but I don't know. For some reason, last six
months we feel we felt better, you know. Yeah, I thought,
you know, the clime has gone a little bit down.
I can't see people around, you know, people, you know,
(04:22):
so I thought I started getting better, and all of sudden,
you know, we've got lamp right.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Oh, your poor bugger. That's a terrible situation to find
yourself in. And and you know, and and again, it
just makes it incredibly difficult to do business in terms
of you know, what it means for you insurance wise
as well. I mean, like do your insurance costs go
up when things like this happen and does see you know,
(04:48):
the on flow ongoing have an impact of course.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Of course, because if you're going to put a claim,
you need to pay more. Yeah, and you know these
insurance bodies, you know, they don't want to, you know,
give for everything we claim. You know, it's part up
the building. It's not a responsibility, it's not covered you know. Yeah,
I make it a large If my lige is at
on ten grand, you're going to give me seven or
(05:13):
eight or you know, they will come with some negotiations.
You really need to put some money out of your pocket.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah. So, by the sounds of it, you are definitely
hoping that this legislation that's coming into Parliament next week
is going to make a big difference.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Of course, of course, yeah, yeah, oh pre.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Deep, I hope so as well, and I think that
a lot of people in the Northern Territory are hoping
so too, that it's going to make a difference and
that it's hopefully going to help business owners like yourself,
so that we don't see the same the same issues
that we have been experiencing now for quite some time.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah yeah, pret deep.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Thank you so much for having a chat with me
this morning. I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
No problem yet. Thank you so much for your call.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Thank you
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