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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From Jessling Garb.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
We are now going to head across to the Territory
Controller and I have got James O'Brien on the line.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Good morning to you, James.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
Good morning Katie, Good morning to your listeners.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now, James,
understandably a lot of meetings I'm sure happening this morning.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
What is the latest from Secure ENTT.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
So Secure and Tea.

Speaker 4 (00:25):
At the moment, what we're in is a watch and Act,
which basically means that for Darwin region. That is, it
basically means that Darwin from the Tiwi Islands, Darwin all
the way over to Warrre We where we're looking at
making sure that the public are prepared, that they're enacting
their household emergency plans, that you prepare your property and

(00:49):
as many of you may have heard on the TV,
I set out to clean up my car pord I
did that last night. So you're just doing all of
those things, Katie, to make sure that you, yourself and
your family are prepared. What I can say is today
some decisions have been made. We're not looking at closing
any government.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Business at the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
General business today, we're not looking at closing any government schools.
So those sorts of decisions are out there and that
product messaging for people just say that they're certain about
what's happening. We are aware that some early learning centers
across the Greater Dalen region have closed those private early

(01:33):
learning centers and that may affect some families, but obviously
we try and work through those.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
So I think there's some confusion here, James, because obviously
we're in a warning zone now according to the Bureau
of Meteorology. You know, the Tewei Islands, Dundee Beach to
warrw we Inland to Bachelor That includes Darwin, Coburg Peninsula,
Minjulang and gun Bologna, also Paul and Gimpee, Miller, Karpadi
and Warram a Younger. But you've just said to us

(02:02):
we're in a watch and wait zone. So I guess
there's a bit of confusion from some Territorians today. And
that's where you know a lot of people were wondering
if the kids were going to be sent home.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Absolutely, Katie, and it's something that we've been talking about
inside our emergency management teams. What we have is the
Australian Warning System, which is current for all of Australia
and as well as on top of that we have
the Bureau of Meteorology Advice. So the Bureau of Meteorology
sends out a cyclone warning or a cyclone watch, but

(02:39):
alongside that with the Australian Warning System, there is an
advice alert, then there is a watch and Act and
then there is an emergency warning. So what we're trying
to do, because there's that national system present, we're trying
to marry that with the Bureau of Meteorology terminology as well,
so a cyclone war can exist, and also with the

(03:02):
Australian Warning System Watch and Act and that's where we
are at the moment. So when you're looking at Secure
in Tea, I know that it's up there. There should
be some commentary around that for the public to try
and understand that a bit better. But also Secure and
Tea will have the best advice in terms of people
moving around or whether shelters will be open or whether

(03:23):
they won't be in those sorts of things. So I
always watch Secure Entity and listen to our public information
groups media releases that we send out.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, so James, a few questions coming through on the
Tech Sign this morning. You know, first off, you've already
covered it there on the schools. Some are saying, though
the likes of Charles Dale and University are closed.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Some are saying on the tech sign others.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
And I don't know whether you can really answer this,
but I know these apparently meant to be like a
graduation at the convention Center this evening as well. People
wondering whether like that are going to be canceled or
if they should be.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
So anybody that's involved in any of those, and I'll
call them private businesses, even though they may have some
sort of government touch on them, those private businesses are
exactly that. They are private, and they can choose to
close whenever they choose to while enacting their emergency internal

(04:24):
emergency management processes and their policies. So I am aware
that what's called now the AA and T Center, the
entertainment center, I believe, has chosen to not put on
some performances over the weekend. I actually spoke to them
yesterday because one of their clients put out a broadcast

(04:45):
saying that the government had ordered that and that was incorrect.
The Dawn Entertainment Center made that decision in and of themselves,
and that's totally within what they would like to do
because of the safety of their performers. And that's to
exist right across the Greater Darwin area. But what I
can say is that government services today are not closed,

(05:09):
and private and government schools today are not closed.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Is there a threshold at which though there will be
a government direction for those private businesses, etc. To close
due to public safety?

Speaker 4 (05:23):
We risk manage all of these sorts of things, Katie.
As you know, we're very well versed and a lot
of your listeners are probably long term territorians, and I
think you and I have been through quite a few
sideplones up here exactly. So as you know, it's very
much an hour by our risk assessment that we do
across managing a particular event like this. So as we

(05:47):
saw this morning, the curve of tropical cyclone Feena took
a drastic change to the west and now it looks
like it's coming southwest. So what we will need to
do is reassess the timings of those upon information from
the Bureau. And I can't give you any indication of
what may happen in terms of you know, things like

(06:09):
closures and that sort of thing or opening of shelters,
but always be listening out for that communication from our
public Information group because we will provide that in a
very timely manner.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, look, we've got you know, we're going to have
staff for Rousted or not over the course of the
weekend as well across both of our radio stations, so
that people are aware of exactly what is happening.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I want to ask.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
We've had a few listener questions, like I mentioned before,
one of them about caravans, people wondering when it comes
to caravans, whether they you know, when they need to
realistically be looking at going into I guess into one
of those shelters.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
I think for me, so right now, as of right now,
the shelters are not open, and that's something that in
our pre planning we're always looking at whether we open them,
and so those things will be under consideration more than
likely today. Again, keep your ears out to the radio,
keep your eyes on Secure and TEE, because those are

(07:11):
the areas that will have that information once we make
those decisions. What I would say for anybody is that
you with your own homes, your own caravans, your vehicles,
you have to pre plan and make some of those
decisions for yourself in terms of what you are going
to do. So if people are looking at going to

(07:31):
those shelters.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Just be ready to move.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I would say, now, be ready to move now, just
in case something happens.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
So even if they're may be concerned about that strength
of wind, could be worth them heading down the track
now if.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
They wanted to, like if that's a personal choice that
they wanted to make, absolutely, but if they wanted to
stay in down and then just keep a listen out
for any of the advice that we send out.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
James, how are our communities going at this point in time?
Is there going to any evacuations.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
At the moment.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
No, we have decided Minjalang and war Are we and
in particular Minjalang are probably feeling the effects right now.
We've got extra police over there, so I think now
we have four police on the ground over at Minjalang
and war Are We. We also have some ADF support,
So thank you to the Defense Force. They just happen

(08:24):
to be in the area, so they're helping us out,
which is great. Miller, Carpety Pearl and Gimpi and Waramianger,
they're obviously in that warning zone.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Schools were closed today over there.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Our local police were sending some extra survey and assessment
people over there today which will also bolster our police resources.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
So there's lots of police.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
On the ground and around the areas in support of
our communities.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
And have they got cyclone shelters in those communities or
where are some of them planning to shelter?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Some do have very good cyclone shelters.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Some of the other communities, in particular over on the
Tee Wee's may not have particularly great shelters, but because
of previous cyclones, you know, our government housing over there
is quite up to standard, and so we've made an
assessment of all government housing as well as any available
other government buildings in terms of their capacity to house people,

(09:22):
and the local area emergency committees at the moment are
just working through all the people within those relevant communities
on the Tiwi Islands to see whether they want to
shelter in place or go to any available shelter that's
there all right.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
So at this point in time, James, in terms of
our local Darwin residents and those in the Greater Darwin region,
probably even to the Dundee area. Things are operating as
normal at this point in time. When do we anticipate
that we're sort of potentially going to see that change.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yes, So today is absolutely business as usual. The emergency
managers are doing everything we can in the background. We
will definitely provide the timely advice. You will start to
see and as the Bureau is probably mentioned to you
today and your listeners, we will start to see the
wins tomorrow morning. That's if it continues to track as

(10:20):
it does, they.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
Can be unpredictable.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
More than likely the heavier wins tomorrow, so Saturday, Tomorrow
evening Tomorrow night leading into the early morning Sunday, and
then we'll just see how it goes on Sunday. So look,
if we've got any revelers out Saturday night, I would
probably ask them to heed the warning that there could

(10:42):
be some gale force winds, possibly destructive wins late Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Please stay home.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, I reckon that's probably the best advice. Stay home absolutely,
Hey James.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
In terms of you know, when those cyclone shelters are
potentially going to open as well, what are we thinking.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
We'll have to make an assessment of that during the
day today.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Like I said, it's.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Really hard and I know that everybody really wants an
answer on that, but we just can't give an answer because,
you know, as we saw today, Fena took a very
drastic turn west.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
And we have to try not to.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Predict where it's going to go, even though the bomb
do a fantastic job. We have to plan for all contingencies.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
So if it does.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Move off track, then we assess that as time goes by,
But be rest assured that if we do decide to
open up shelters, that that messaging will come out very timely.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And James Zen, you know, after or depending on what
the system does. We're also expecting plenty.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Of rain, aren't we.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Are we you know, are we planning for localized flooding
and that kind of thing as well.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, that's that's definitely something we've looked at our planning.
I've already said to a lot of the local emergency
committees across the top end, all the way down to
what air to be.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Ready now just in case. The Bureau have said.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
That some of that flood watch at the moment shouldn't
reach the high levels of flooding. But you know, as
with anything it could turn and so we do need to.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Be prepared for that. So all of those people that
are listening in particular.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
That Daily River area, that what Air area, and even
down towards that VRD area gun Bologna as well up
in the north, just be wary at the moment and
plan for just in case something does happen, but we're
not expecting it at the moment.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Hey, James, a quick one from one of our listeners,
Sonya's just messaged through and said good morning, Katie. In
regards to the warning zone and the Watch and Act advice,
a lot of businesses are going by the Watch and
Act and not closing and not sending their employees home.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
But when are we supposed to prepare.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Our homes and our yards to do things like the
dump runs, et cetera. So I don't know what the
advice is at this point, can you you know for
those businesses that are maybe listening this morning that aren't
one hundred percent sure what they sort of legally need
to do or what they should be doing.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
So there are various legal things that can happen, Katie,
for those particular private businesses. As an emergency controller, where
we're nowhere near that. You know, we're more looking towards
that state of disaster type thing and that's just not
on the cards at the moment.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
So private businesses really do.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Need to make up their own minds with their own
emergency plans that they should already have in place within
each each of.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
The private agencies, so that they.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Should be trying to enact those and have a chat
with their staff and that decision should really lie with them.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, James O'Brien, the Territory Controller, I'll tell you what, mate,
you've been through a few cyclnes, floods, all sorts of things.
I reckon twenty years ago, you and I were working
together when the Catherine River flooded.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
We were in a long, long road, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
And when you live in the territory, there's always a
weather event that you need to be aware of.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Isn't there There is?

Speaker 4 (14:15):
There is, absolutely, and I just make sure that you're
all stay safe.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Yeah, spot on.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Well, James O'Brien, Territory Controller, thanks so much for talking
to us this morning, and no doubt we'll talk to
you again soon.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
Yes, absolutely, Katie, thank you, thanks so much.
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