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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we are on the final stretch of the marathon.
I think it's safe to say, or grand final week,
whatever you want to call it if you're a sports
fan like me. But as we heard on the show yesterday,
the Labour Party is making some fairly significant promises in
the lead into the election. I mean the colp is
as well, but this party promised yesterday to gift Freeland
to and major project status to a new supermarket chain

(00:23):
to enter the Northern Territory market. It was one that's
sort of I think fired people up abeats. Some people
obviously going yeah, great idea, we need to bring down
the cost of groceries, other saying, hang on a sec
this seems like a croc now evil. All are said
on the show yesterday that they are pushing for an
alternative supermarket chain such as Aldi or Costco to come
to the Northern Territory in an effort to improve competition

(00:46):
and force the big two supermarkets to end unfair pricing
that worsens the cost of living for territorients. Now in
the studio with me is the Opposition leader Leo Finocchiaro.
Good morning to your leader.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Good morning Kadi, into your listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Now it does seem as though you know these plans
or what the government's seed has been thoughted. We heard
from publication territory savvy who'd said that they got in
contact with both of those two major chains, and we're
told that no, they've got no plans to come into
the Northern territory. I mean, what's the CLP's plan to
try to lower grocery prices?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I think territorians aren't surprised by Labour's trickery.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
We're seeing some really.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Desperate behavior a week out from an election and an
avoidance of the really key issues affecting the territory. Now,
we know that cost of living is too high, and
that's off the back of eight years of this government
eroding our economy. We have had the worst performing economy
in the nation for five and a half years.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
People are leaving.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's too hard to do business in the territory and
that's why the CLP has been really focused on changing
what we can do going forward so we get a
different outcome. It's why we're backing in small business with
payroll tax reliefs so they can employ more apprentices and trainees,
more locals.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Bless you.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Sorry, about that more locals and really make the territory
a competitive place to run a business.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Our payroll tax regime will be the best in the country.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Can the Labor Party says that your payroll tax regime
is just going to help the likes of coals and woolies,
and it's only going to help you know, huge business.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Is Is that the case?

Speaker 3 (02:23):
This is Labor and their tricks because they have nothing
good to say about their own policies, they're trying to
attack us. Our payroll tax relief means every single business
in the territory can put on more staff, invest in
their businesses, grow their businesses and importantly employee more apprentices
train just big business.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
This is about you know, plumbing, maintenance services, mix ali,
fab dream media, sterling. These are all territory local businesses.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Are they businesses though that have to be making a
certain amount of money? I mean, do they need to
be multimillion dollar businesses to be able to see the
benefits of this.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
No. So payroll tax was set thirteen years ago and
hasn't been changed and that's crippling small businesses opportunity to grow.
And what payroll tax is is a tax on jobs,
and so we don't want that to be the case.
We want people to continue to take risks and run businesses,
employ local people, and put on apprentices and trainees. And
that's why we're lifting this threshold because it's really important

(03:25):
that the territory is a competitive place to run a business.
We've seen so many closed down, Katie, and they're closing
down because of crime, they can't get workers. So there
are a lot of challenges in the territory, but we
have the team and the plan to turn it around.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
How much is it going to cost? You know, that's
something that a lot of people are asking at the moment.
I know that both of the parties are going to
have to sort of have your costing see and I believe, well,
they'll be made public later this week.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I think it's tomorrow tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
So how much is the payroll tax promise going to cost?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's about fourteen million dollars a year and all of
our costing, all of our commitments have been submitted to
Treasury for them to cost and analyze, and they'll make
that available to the public tomorrow, I believe. And it's
really important though. We can't keep doing the same thing
and expect a different outcome, Katie. So we're very proud
of announcing the Australia's Best payroll tax regime, Australia's Best

(04:19):
first Home and building regime. We really need to do
things differently and that's something we're proud of.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
And will you offer free land to big business like
Aldi and Costco in an effort to try and get
them here.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
We know unfortunately that they're not coming Katie in this environment.
If we can grow our population, get our economy moving again,
create some hope and opportunity back in this place in
the future, absolutely we should be pursuing it. But in
the meantime we can back in fantastic locals like it,
our markets, like the IDAs, like a MD Fresh produce there.

(04:52):
There are plenty of people doing amazing things across the territory.
But ultimately for the territory to be better, we've got
to reduce crime, rebuild our economy and restore our lives.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Leah. We know the COLP last week unveiled Declan's Law.
It is a new bail amendment bill that you're going
to introduce in week one of parliament if elected. So
how are these changes going to make a difference to
stop a situation like we saw when Declan's life was taken.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes we did.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
We stood with Samara Lavity, Declan Lavity's mum out the
front of the BWS where Declan was killed and announced
Declan's Law as a suite of bow reform, so to
take people through that. And some of you will remember,
after Declan was killed, Labor changed bail laws and they
didn't go far enough. And at that time we moved

(05:39):
two amendments to try and get the government to do
the job properly, and they failed. And our bail laws
are not fit for purpose. So the difference between the
COLP and the current law under Labor is this, Labor
have chosen to restrict bail to people using knives or
knife type weapons, very limited scope. For the COLP, we

(06:02):
believe it should go much broader. If you are a
serious violent offender, whether you have a weapon or not,
whether it's a broken bottle, a star picket, a screwdriver,
a knife, a machete, it doesn't matter. If you're a
serious violent offender, you should start with no bail. If
you're a repeat offender, you should start with no bail.
And if you are bailed despite that extra scrutiny and

(06:24):
stopgap measure. Then you should have a monitory. You should
be monitored with electronic monitoring lead.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Do you think though, that we're going to wind up
with people And I'm not saying that this is okay,
but let's say, you know, there's a young blog that
gets into a punch up with another young bloke in
the city. You know, they get into a fight with
each other, somebody gets injured, that that person is going
to end up in jail immediately.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
So this is about making sure people who are serious
violent offenders arriving court on the back foot.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Currently they're on the front foot.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And what that means is it gives the judges more
opportunity to scrutinize whether people present a content cotinued risk
to our community. And that's what we want. You know,
Samara doesn't want any other family to have to go
through what they are going through and will go through
for the rest of their lives, and neither do we.
And so by ensuring there are tighter rules so that
the judges have to really scrutinize and heavily look at

(07:17):
each person and whether they present that serious ongoing risk
it is very important to us and to the community.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, some are saying it's going to mean more people
in jail after a first offense. Is that going to
be the case? And are you concerned that you know
that it may end up we may end up seeing
people put in jail who some might feel should not
be in there after a first offense.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
So this is still comes down to the judge deciding
does the person present an ongoing risk to.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
The community, And that's what we want.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
So for judge determines that someone is likely to offend
and cause serious harm to someone again, then they will
be remanded in custody. And so it's really important that
we don't allow people who do present that continue risk
to our community to be out there offending while they're
on bail. That's why we're focused on electronic monitoring as

(08:06):
well for people who are so that the police at
least have better oversight of where people are. But at
the end of the day, this is the point he
and this is for people who are offending. We've also
got to make sure we're dealing with those root causes
of crime and getting kids to school.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
All right, A few quick ones, Leah, Now I know
that you were yesterday voting.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
I'm assuming you voted for the seal.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
They voted Clpkati and everyone else to Well.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I know that there is discussion about the possibility though,
of a hung parliament and a reliance on independence to
form government. Are you prepared to work with independence if that.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Is the case.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Look, Katie, we've got a couple of days to go,
and our focus is on making sure that every territory
and goes out and votes. Understand the choice. It's a
choice for more of the same, a territory going backwards,
or a territory where we can forge ahead, be safe,
grow economy and enjoy our lifestyle.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
So I would you make an alliance is someone like
Robin Lamley?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Look, well, you know we have to deal with what
is before us if we get to that point, Katie,
But there's a you know, a lot of water to
go under the bridge between now and Saturday, and I
just ask everyone you know your vote is important.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It does make a difference.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
You can win or lose a seat by literally one vote,
So don't waste the chance to change the government and
change the territory for the better.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
There's been some questions being asked in the last twenty
four hours about whether you support the leadership of the
Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy. Now it's mostly coming
from the ABC. I'm not too sure exactly you know
what the reasons were behind that. But do you support
the Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy? And if you
are to become the Chief Minister, is he going to

(09:42):
stay on in that role?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yes, I do support the police Commissioner. I'm not sure
where ABC are getting this from, but they're entitled to
ask their questions.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
What we need is a very strong police force.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
That's why we're bringing in retention bonuses for cops who've
served ten or more years in five year incremental. We
need to keep police here. That's the only way to
immediately increastrate it.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
To me, for twelve nuths, it's just.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
A trial, Katie.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
We might need to make the amount bigger, we might
need to change the increments that we want to be flexible.
This is about supporting our police and we want to
make sure it's working well.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Leah. A few listener questions, one from Good Morning Katie.
Can you please ask Leah what her stance is on
the cotton industry in the Northern Territory, particularly noting the
full Corners report from last night.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Look, we've got a really highly regulated environmental system here
in the Northern Territory. Agriculture is a massive part of
our economy and it should be a bigger part. Agriculture
presents real opportunities for jobs on country out right across
the territory, and so we're very, very supportive of expanding
those economic opportunities for all Territorians while making sure that

(10:49):
we safeguard our environment and preserve it for future generation.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
All Right, this question from Glenn I asked it of
the Chief Minister yesterday as well. It says, Hi, Katie,
can you please ask the Chief Minister and the Leader
of the Opposition what their party's intentions would be with
the voice at a state or territory level if they
win the election. I think it's important, an important issue.
With the results of the referendum and Victoria and South
Australia's moved to put in place already and the apparent

(11:14):
not only confidence but encouragement of our Prime Minister that
other states and territories will follow, I feel this question
needs to be a definitive yes or no, as it
could have a big impact on how Territorians choose to vote,
says Glenn.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
No, the answer is no. We're not pursuing voice at
a territory level or at any level. What we're really
focused on is changing community government councils. Now, you know,
labor are disempowered Aboriginal people right across the territory by
amalgamating local councils into massive shires run out of the
major urban centers, and when you go out Bush, what

(11:48):
people want is their community government council's back, and that's
our commitment to work with communities to drive a new
model going forward, a sustainable model where governance is at
the core and we can put the power back in
the hands of Aboriginal people in their communities to make
decisions around what's important to their community.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Leah a quick one from Darby from the do Can
you ask Leah her thoughts on voluntary assisted dying legislation. Yep.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
We've always said this will be a conscience vote in
the Parliament. It's something that each member of Parliament really
should be out engaging with their electorates on. It's a
very big topic it's a big issue and you're either
you know, there's a lot of people who take one
side or the other, but it would be a conscience
vote in the Parliament.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
All right, Leah Finocchiaro, that's it, that last interview before
before hang on, there's apparently Crystal's telling me there might
be other questions here. I might just quickly see what
they are before I let you go, because it is
the last opportunity before our listeners to get a couple
of those questions to you before the election on Saturday.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Although those numbers are.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Now up over forty five thousand people have all ready voted.

Speaker 4 (12:56):
They are massive numbers.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
I'm anticipating we could be up around the seventy percent
really yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
By the weekend, and there's plenty of opportunities to vote.
Prepolls open eight till five in locations and then on
election day on Saturday. But make sure you check if
you vote Saturday. The NTC has changed the schools and
so we don't want you rocking up to a school
you've voted at for thirty years only to find it's closed.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
A really quick one here from Jill Hi Katie, can
you ask leader if she's going to put the electricity
by back back up.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Oh you mean the solar. Yes, great question, Jill. So
we've been really clear that we want to reward territories
who've invested in rooftop solar, and we know Eva Lola
actually was the one to cut it out from underneath people.
So we will double the feed in tariff in peak
times and give territorians twelve thousand dollars to buy a
big battery for their home so that you're charging that

(13:46):
battery up during the day, using that your own electric
you know, your own generated power in the evenings, and
that will see for a lot of people their power
bills reduced dramatically or even say goodbye to power of
bills entirely. So it to help stabilize the grid, reward
people for investing in our environment and investing in rooftop solar.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Lea.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Just on the voice question, somebody's messaged and said I
noticedly it gave a good, strong no to the voice
to Parliament. However, she didn't answer about treaty. Is treaty
something that you're going to be working towards.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
No, no voice or treaty. We're very focused on local
government reform. That's the feedback we're getting from the bush.
We believe that's the best way to give genuine control
and power to Aboriginal communities to deliver better outcome for
their people around education, roads, infrastructure, you know, investment into
sporting facilities. All of these things are really important and

(14:39):
so it's our commitment to work with those communities and
deliver a better form of government for them.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Well, Lea fanochi Airo, that's the last one before the
Northern Territory election. Say the same to you as what
I said to Ev yesterday. Good luck, good luck for
the remainder of the weekend and we'll see where it
all lands. And we may be talking on Monday or
who knows what's going to go on.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
As take care Katie, Thank you everyone, and please go
out and vote.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Vote to change the territory.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
We can be better than what we are now and
only a vote for CLP can change the.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Government written and authorized there.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
Goodness me ly, thanks so much, much appreciated.
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