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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yesterday, the coroner, Elizabeth Armitage's findings were delivered into the
deaths of four Indigenous women at the hands of their partners.
The coroner made thirty five recommendations, many calling for significant
investment into the domestic and family violence sector, as well
as the establishment of a peak DV body, an evidence
(00:20):
based alcohol intervention strategy, specialist drug and alcohol rehab, a
multi agency protection service, dedicated DV police Command specialist, domestic
family sexual Violence court, early intervention programs for youth, funding
for men's prison based behavior programs, and greater screening and
(00:41):
assessments within the Northern Territory. The opposition leader Selena Rubau
joins me on the line. Good morning to you, Selena,
let's try that again. Good morning to you again, Selena.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Good morning, cating listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now what
this inquest, well, what we know is it's been running
for about seventeen months. There were a number of recommendations,
thirty five in fact, made yesterday. What was your reaction
to the findings and the recommendations.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, Katie, I know it's been quite a harrwing process
for a lot of people who've provided evidence who've had
to listen to the evidence. But it was a very
clear process that the coroner handed down those thirty five
recommendations and that's something that our Labor opposition will support
and something that if we're in government in the next term,
we would seek and commit to implementing those recommendations. We
(01:41):
think are very clear, we think they're very sensible, and
there's been a lot of work and a lot of
very difficult and very traumatic evidence that has gone into
the yield.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It certainly has been what do you think needs to
happen following these findings being handed down and the recommendations
being made. Is it something that CLP government needs to
implement in full?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think it is, Katie. I don't think there's anything
in the recommendation that is controversial. I think a lot
of what the DV sector has called for for many
years when we're in government, they're still calling for it now.
It's very clear cut in terms of what needs to
be done. This is an area where I think they
really can lead in the space, Katie by getting that
(02:24):
one hundred and eighty million dollars that they promised in
the election period to get it out the door. The
DV sector is crying out for it. We know that territory,
women and children in particular need to be safer across
all of our communities and this will be a really
positive way forward to tackling that horrible scourge of DV
that we're experiencing across the NT.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I know that the findings show that things have needed
to change for a long time. What do you think
the most urgent recommendations are.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think there's a multitude of the very productive and
constructive recommendation. I think one for me that was very interesting,
Katie is when Labor was in government, we did bring
about that Interagency Coordination Reform Office. Many people will hear
the term IKRO, that's the nickname. We did bring that about.
It did fade away because the idea is to bring
(03:16):
those agencies of government together. So basically you've got the
left hand and the right hand working together to get
a better outcome. And through the coroner's report that's recommended
that that ECRO is put together again that there is
a clear process of coordination within government. I think that's
an easy process to re establish for the CLP government.
(03:37):
I would love to see them take that on very quickly,
and it was very interesting too, Katie. One of the
recommendations that stood out for me was Recommendation five, which
is around reducing alcohol availability in the Northern Territory. And
you know this week we're going to see the COLP
government scrap them in four price unit, which does have
independent data to show that it does reduce alcohol related
(04:00):
domestic and family violence incidents, not something that Labour's saying.
The stats speaks for themselves at mensi's School of Health
and Research. So it would be some very clear recommendations
that the CELP can act on quickly, based on expert advice,
based on a seventeenth month coronial inquest, and based on
a lot of the work that the DV sector has
(04:22):
already done. This is something that the CLPA government can
take on straight away to make our communities more safer.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And look, I will get to that in just a moment.
I'll speak a little bit more about the alcohol flaw price,
but I do want to ask you. I know that
there's going to be a lot of people listening this
morning saying label were in power for the last eight
years and things did not improve in the domestic violence.
You know, in that space. In fact, the Minister yesterday,
Robin Carl said that there'd been an eighty two percent
(04:50):
to increase over those years. I mean, if the implementation
of these recommendations are so urgent, but as we have
i've heard reported unsurprising, why didn't Labor get stuck into
this work while in power?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, Katie, I know that there's been some questions and concerns,
and I can say that I do feel that we've
made some inroads. Definitely not enough. There's always more work
to do in this space. Unfortunately, it's not an easy
space to tackle. There are those complexities. When you think
about the added police that have been added to the
force of the there is more reporting, which is a
(05:29):
good thing but does also mean our numbers go up.
And it does also mean that we see those incidents
across the community and they're reported, which is a good
thing because we never want to shy away silence or
hide from domestic and family violence incidents in our communities.
But when it comes to those inroads, we need to
keep pushing. So it doesn't matter which government's in, whether
(05:49):
it's a labor government, COLP. We need to continue that
work and the work of the sector doesn't change. So
the DVS specialists and experts doesn't change. And the work
of our government apartments, they're also experts in the field
and the work that they've done. When you know, election happens,
it's just the executive of the government and the decision
makers that change, but the public service stays the same, Katie,
(06:10):
So that really strong work needs to continue, both on
the government side and the non government organizations who are
the experts and you know see some of the horrific
and traumatic day to day impact of domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, and the difficulty is, you know, from August last year,
in fact, they were saying that one hundred and eighty
million dollars was needed and that the Labor government had
only committed twenty million dollars while in power. So this
was back in August last year you had domestic violence
advocates saying that we know in the lead up to
the election that obviously increased to one hundred and eighty
(06:44):
million dollars from Labour's side, But we've now got the
same situation with the COLP. So it's this one hundred
and eighty million dollars night. I actually think you sport
on that both sides of government need to work together
on this, and I think that we've got to kind
of forget the politics when it comes to domestic violence.
But what I do want to know from you, and
I think from the colp as well, is how are
(07:07):
we going to get the federal government to actually come
to the table here because recommendations is that there is
a lot of work that needs to be done. The
one hundred and eighty million dollars is the bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, Katie, that is the bare minimum, and that's to
just make a small, very small dent into those complexities
that we all know exist across the Northern Territory in
the DV sector. If we are to ever get on
top of domestic, family and sexual violence prevention in the territory,
we do have to have that needs based funding. And
you hit the nail on the head, Katie, when it's
(07:45):
it has to be bipartisan, It has to be right
across the territory. Everyone needs to link calms and say
enough is enough. And we want to make sure that
the territory, regardless of who's in politics in Canberra, who's
in politics here in the NT, but the territory has
to come off in a better way when it comes
to need based funding for family, domestic and sexual violence prevention.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What are you going to be saying to the Minister
for Indigenous Australians, Melanderie McCarthy today.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'll definitely be talking to Senator McCarthy. She has a
very important role as the Federal Minister for Indigenous Australians,
but also her counterparts as well other federal ministers who
have correlating portfolios that have the opportunity to really focus
on the territory needs. We got some wins in remote
ed excuse me, We've got some wins in remote housings.
(08:32):
We've got some wins in territory education, full funding for
all of our territory schools. The next two big pieces, Katie,
is health and domestic and family violence funding, though they're
the two other areas, and we will stand side by side,
regardless of politics, with the Colp government to make sure
that those two areas and the territory are promptly funded
because we're going to see more territory women and children
(08:55):
face trauma and unfortunately, what we've seen through this inquest,
the death of two Territory women at the hands of
their partners if we do not get on top of
this scourge, and we do not get on top of
this crisis, Selena.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
One of the things that the coroner said yesterday throughout
the many recommendations, she said that they're not radical and
a lot of the evidence are issues which have previously
been raised. Now she said, there really is no way
to turn this around unless those perpetrating violence, whose violence,
(09:26):
they must stop blaming someone else. They must take responsibility
and change their attitudes and behaviors. I thought they were
really really strong words because it's spot on. They do
need to change their behaviors. It is not okay for
women to be getting killed at the hands of their partners.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Absolutely, Katie, and that was very profound and very direct
and strong words from the coroner. And I think it's
hard to listen to when you think about what is
happening in the territory and that there are ways to
prevent it. And that's why we want to as a
labor opposition, we want to work with the government to
make sure that we can really cut through all of
(10:10):
the fluff, all of the politicking, and we can really
get down to what is needed and support our DV sector.
And we're seeing obviously violence against women as the number
one issue in the territory when it comes domestic and
family violence, but we're also seeing more and more of
family violence and we need to address that. So the
(10:30):
work of the coroner has created again another spotlight on
a very very horrific and traumatic issue. But there are
ways forward and there are ways to step through that's
going to be constructive, that will be positive, that will
have that short, medium and long term impact, and that's
only going to make the territory safer and it's going
to support territory women in particular and territory kids.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It really really has to change. And I tell you what,
men do need to take responsibility for those those actions
as well. You know it's not okay, and we know
that certainly there can be violence perpetrated by women as well.
But what we've seen yesterday and those findings yesterday, things
really do need to change. I do want to move along.
(11:13):
Though we know that Parliament of course resims in the
Northern Territory this morning. My understanding is that there is
a rally outside of Parliament House this morning. I know
that Chancey Paig had taken to social media to sort
of you know, rally people up for want of a
better word, Selena, have you got any out there?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, it wasn't. It was definitely not a Labor rally.
Just want to clear that up, Katie. But there was
a rally in front of Parliament House. It was an
authorized protest from my understanding, Katie about the Colp government's
Territory Coordinator Bill and the processes that are being looked
to remove in terms of safeguards and providing some very
(11:56):
unprecedented powers that have ever been seen in the Northern
Territory through this. So that was a community rally as
I understand. Obviously, my colleague Chancey Paig did a full
extent of the legislation that the Celpi government is trying
to bring in around this position. We don't disagree with
the principles of it, but there are some things that
we've seen through the discussion paper that was secretly released
(12:21):
that provide the Chief Minister and an unelected a senior
government official with some powers that have never been seen
in the territory to sidestep and to completely go over
legislative processes.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Are you concerned though that you know that Labor really
wasn't able to get a major project off the ground
over eight years, like can you can you see that
some things maybe do need to change in order to
get things moving.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, o, Katie, definitely love to see some major projects
actually get delivered and to see that movement happen, but
not at the risk of territorians, you know, thought and
process and face in being able to have some of
those legislative protections, particularly around the environment. We know a
lot of people get very passionate about the environment and
the territory Canadian rightly so, but we want to make
(13:09):
sure those safeguards remain. And if there's way to expediate
processes the development that benefit territorians, and that's great, we'd
love to see that and to be able to support that,
but again, not at the expense of removing processes and
safeguards and protections that territorians expect to have.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Selena, I know your press for time as we were
about to catch up with Justine the Independent, but before
I let you go, you touched on these a couple
of moments ago, the alcohol legislation, the floor price being scrapped,
some people questioning why labor is really making a fuss
of this When you guys let the stronger futures legislation
(13:46):
laps in Alice Springs and we saw the ramifications.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, the alcohol floor price unit. That was part of
the processes that we undertook as labor to make sure
that there were some other mechanisms. There's not a one
stop shop in terms of fixing the alcohol harm and
the impact of alcohol harm in the Northern Territory, Katie.
But you know, we have seen some positive benefits to
(14:10):
that policy. MEN'SI School of Health, which most territories will
know very trusted in Independent Health Institute provided some very
clear stats fourteen percent of reduction in our corelated assaults
in the Northern Territory because of that policy, eleven percent
of reduction in family domestic violent violence assaults in the territory,
and nineteen percent reduction of our coorelated emergency department attendance
(14:33):
as Katie, so every bit helps with what do you
reckon ensure that there's less harm in our community?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Why do you reckon that? We're in a situation though,
where despite those numbers, a lot of Territorians still want
these scrapped and do not believe it's working.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean, I'm sure I can't talk to how people
are feeling about that. But when we do want to
see what policies work and don't work in the territory,
people go to data. So having a look at independent
data is always really important to be able to inform,
to shape to guide government policy because we want to
see government policy that benefits everyone in the territory, Katie,
(15:13):
and people may not like that particular policy, but you know,
the data does speak for itself. But I think it
is very very concerning, Katie that the Celpick government, who
recognizes and who has spoken about alcohol harm in the
community whilst they were in opposition for the four years
over the last four years, they're now saying, oh, we're
(15:35):
going to reduce sorry, we're going to scrap this policy
which they don't believe reduces harm in the community, which
clearly this that say otherwise. And they're doing it in
a week where we've just seen the coronial Inquesse of
seventeen months and the coroner say that alcohol availability in
the territory needs to be reduced. So I don't understand, Katie,
(15:56):
why the Celpick government is pursuing this as a process
that they are going to undertake, particularly this week of
all weeks in the territory, but particularly as a government
who wants to be responsible around reducing alcohol harm in
the community and ignoring the stats, ignoring the independent research
and ignoring the health benefits for territories when it comes
(16:18):
to alcohol harm.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Selena, we are going to have to leave it there.
I know you've got to get into Parliament as well.
Thank you so very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thank you, Katie, I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Thank you.
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Yesterday, the coroner, Elizabeth Armitage's findings were delivered into the
deaths of four Indigenous women at the hands of their partners.
The coroner made thirty five recommendations, many calling for significant
investment into the domestic and family violence sector, as well
as the establishment of a peak DV body, an evidence
(00:20):
based alcohol intervention strategy, specialist drug and alcohol rehab, a
multi agency protection service, dedicated DV police Command specialist, domestic
family sexual Violence court, early intervention programs for youth, funding
for men's prison based behavior programs, and greater screening and
(00:41):
assessments within the Northern Territory. The opposition leader Selena Rubau
joins me on the line. Good morning to you, Selena,
let's try that again. Good morning to you again, Selena.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Good morning, cating listeners.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thanks so much for your time this morning. Now what
this inquest, well, what we know is it's been running
for about seventeen months. There were a number of recommendations,
thirty five in fact, made yesterday. What was your reaction
to the findings and the recommendations.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, Katie, I know it's been quite a harrwing process
for a lot of people who've provided evidence who've had
to listen to the evidence. But it was a very
clear process that the coroner handed down those thirty five
recommendations and that's something that our Labor opposition will support
and something that if we're in government in the next term,
we would seek and commit to implementing those recommendations. We
(01:41):
think are very clear, we think they're very sensible, and
there's been a lot of work and a lot of
very difficult and very traumatic evidence that has gone into
the yield.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It certainly has been what do you think needs to
happen following these findings being handed down and the recommendations
being made. Is it something that CLP government needs to
implement in full?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think it is, Katie. I don't think there's anything
in the recommendation that is controversial. I think a lot
of what the DV sector has called for for many
years when we're in government, they're still calling for it now.
It's very clear cut in terms of what needs to
be done. This is an area where I think they
really can lead in the space, Katie by getting that
(02:24):
one hundred and eighty million dollars that they promised in
the election period to get it out the door. The
DV sector is crying out for it. We know that territory,
women and children in particular need to be safer across
all of our communities and this will be a really
positive way forward to tackling that horrible scourge of DV
that we're experiencing across the NT.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I know that the findings show that things have needed
to change for a long time. What do you think
the most urgent recommendations are.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think there's a multitude of the very productive and
constructive recommendation. I think one for me that was very interesting,
Katie is when Labor was in government, we did bring
about that Interagency Coordination Reform Office. Many people will hear
the term IKRO, that's the nickname. We did bring that about.
It did fade away because the idea is to bring
(03:16):
those agencies of government together. So basically you've got the
left hand and the right hand working together to get
a better outcome. And through the coroner's report that's recommended
that that ECRO is put together again that there is
a clear process of coordination within government. I think that's
an easy process to re establish for the CLP government.
(03:37):
I would love to see them take that on very quickly,
and it was very interesting too, Katie. One of the
recommendations that stood out for me was Recommendation five, which
is around reducing alcohol availability in the Northern Territory. And
you know this week we're going to see the COLP
government scrap them in four price unit, which does have
independent data to show that it does reduce alcohol related
(04:00):
domestic and family violence incidents, not something that Labour's saying.
The stats speaks for themselves at mensi's School of Health
and Research. So it would be some very clear recommendations
that the CELP can act on quickly, based on expert advice,
based on a seventeenth month coronial inquest, and based on
a lot of the work that the DV sector has
(04:22):
already done. This is something that the CLPA government can
take on straight away to make our communities more safer.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
And look, I will get to that in just a moment.
I'll speak a little bit more about the alcohol flaw price,
but I do want to ask you. I know that
there's going to be a lot of people listening this
morning saying label were in power for the last eight
years and things did not improve in the domestic violence.
You know, in that space. In fact, the Minister yesterday,
Robin Carl said that there'd been an eighty two percent
(04:50):
to increase over those years. I mean, if the implementation
of these recommendations are so urgent, but as we have
i've heard reported unsurprising, why didn't Labor get stuck into
this work while in power?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, Katie, I know that there's been some questions and concerns,
and I can say that I do feel that we've
made some inroads. Definitely not enough. There's always more work
to do in this space. Unfortunately, it's not an easy
space to tackle. There are those complexities. When you think
about the added police that have been added to the
force of the there is more reporting, which is a
(05:29):
good thing but does also mean our numbers go up.
And it does also mean that we see those incidents
across the community and they're reported, which is a good
thing because we never want to shy away silence or
hide from domestic and family violence incidents in our communities.
But when it comes to those inroads, we need to
keep pushing. So it doesn't matter which government's in, whether
(05:49):
it's a labor government, COLP. We need to continue that
work and the work of the sector doesn't change. So
the DVS specialists and experts doesn't change. And the work
of our government apartments, they're also experts in the field
and the work that they've done. When you know, election happens,
it's just the executive of the government and the decision
makers that change, but the public service stays the same, Katie,
(06:10):
So that really strong work needs to continue, both on
the government side and the non government organizations who are
the experts and you know see some of the horrific
and traumatic day to day impact of domestic violence.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Well, and the difficulty is, you know, from August last year,
in fact, they were saying that one hundred and eighty
million dollars was needed and that the Labor government had
only committed twenty million dollars while in power. So this
was back in August last year you had domestic violence
advocates saying that we know in the lead up to
the election that obviously increased to one hundred and eighty
(06:44):
million dollars from Labour's side, But we've now got the
same situation with the COLP. So it's this one hundred
and eighty million dollars night. I actually think you sport
on that both sides of government need to work together
on this, and I think that we've got to kind
of forget the politics when it comes to domestic violence.
But what I do want to know from you, and
I think from the colp as well, is how are
(07:07):
we going to get the federal government to actually come
to the table here because recommendations is that there is
a lot of work that needs to be done. The
one hundred and eighty million dollars is the bare minimum.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, Katie, that is the bare minimum, and that's to
just make a small, very small dent into those complexities
that we all know exist across the Northern Territory in
the DV sector. If we are to ever get on
top of domestic, family and sexual violence prevention in the territory,
we do have to have that needs based funding. And
you hit the nail on the head, Katie, when it's
(07:45):
it has to be bipartisan, It has to be right
across the territory. Everyone needs to link calms and say
enough is enough. And we want to make sure that
the territory, regardless of who's in politics in Canberra, who's
in politics here in the NT, but the territory has
to come off in a better way when it comes
to need based funding for family, domestic and sexual violence prevention.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What are you going to be saying to the Minister
for Indigenous Australians, Melanderie McCarthy today.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I'll definitely be talking to Senator McCarthy. She has a
very important role as the Federal Minister for Indigenous Australians,
but also her counterparts as well other federal ministers who
have correlating portfolios that have the opportunity to really focus
on the territory needs. We got some wins in remote
ed excuse me, We've got some wins in remote housings.
(08:32):
We've got some wins in territory education, full funding for
all of our territory schools. The next two big pieces, Katie,
is health and domestic and family violence funding, though they're
the two other areas, and we will stand side by side,
regardless of politics, with the Colp government to make sure
that those two areas and the territory are promptly funded
because we're going to see more territory women and children
(08:55):
face trauma and unfortunately, what we've seen through this inquest,
the death of two Territory women at the hands of
their partners if we do not get on top of
this scourge, and we do not get on top of
this crisis, Selena.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
One of the things that the coroner said yesterday throughout
the many recommendations, she said that they're not radical and
a lot of the evidence are issues which have previously
been raised. Now she said, there really is no way
to turn this around unless those perpetrating violence, whose violence,
(09:26):
they must stop blaming someone else. They must take responsibility
and change their attitudes and behaviors. I thought they were
really really strong words because it's spot on. They do
need to change their behaviors. It is not okay for
women to be getting killed at the hands of their partners.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Absolutely, Katie, and that was very profound and very direct
and strong words from the coroner. And I think it's
hard to listen to when you think about what is
happening in the territory and that there are ways to
prevent it. And that's why we want to as a
labor opposition, we want to work with the government to
make sure that we can really cut through all of
(10:10):
the fluff, all of the politicking, and we can really
get down to what is needed and support our DV sector.
And we're seeing obviously violence against women as the number
one issue in the territory when it comes domestic and
family violence, but we're also seeing more and more of
family violence and we need to address that. So the
(10:30):
work of the coroner has created again another spotlight on
a very very horrific and traumatic issue. But there are
ways forward and there are ways to step through that's
going to be constructive, that will be positive, that will
have that short, medium and long term impact, and that's
only going to make the territory safer and it's going
to support territory women in particular and territory kids.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It really really has to change. And I tell you what,
men do need to take responsibility for those those actions
as well. You know it's not okay, and we know
that certainly there can be violence perpetrated by women as well.
But what we've seen yesterday and those findings yesterday, things
really do need to change. I do want to move along.
(11:13):
Though we know that Parliament of course resims in the
Northern Territory this morning. My understanding is that there is
a rally outside of Parliament House this morning. I know
that Chancey Paig had taken to social media to sort
of you know, rally people up for want of a
better word, Selena, have you got any out there?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well, it wasn't. It was definitely not a Labor rally.
Just want to clear that up, Katie. But there was
a rally in front of Parliament House. It was an
authorized protest from my understanding, Katie about the Colp government's
Territory Coordinator Bill and the processes that are being looked
to remove in terms of safeguards and providing some very
(11:56):
unprecedented powers that have ever been seen in the Northern
Territory through this. So that was a community rally as
I understand. Obviously, my colleague Chancey Paig did a full
extent of the legislation that the Celpi government is trying
to bring in around this position. We don't disagree with
the principles of it, but there are some things that
we've seen through the discussion paper that was secretly released
(12:21):
that provide the Chief Minister and an unelected a senior
government official with some powers that have never been seen
in the territory to sidestep and to completely go over
legislative processes.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Are you concerned though that you know that Labor really
wasn't able to get a major project off the ground
over eight years, like can you can you see that
some things maybe do need to change in order to
get things moving.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, o, Katie, definitely love to see some major projects
actually get delivered and to see that movement happen, but
not at the risk of territorians, you know, thought and
process and face in being able to have some of
those legislative protections, particularly around the environment. We know a
lot of people get very passionate about the environment and
the territory Canadian rightly so, but we want to make
(13:09):
sure those safeguards remain. And if there's way to expediate
processes the development that benefit territorians, and that's great, we'd
love to see that and to be able to support that,
but again, not at the expense of removing processes and
safeguards and protections that territorians expect to have.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Selena, I know your press for time as we were
about to catch up with Justine the Independent, but before
I let you go, you touched on these a couple
of moments ago, the alcohol legislation, the floor price being scrapped,
some people questioning why labor is really making a fuss
of this When you guys let the stronger futures legislation
(13:46):
laps in Alice Springs and we saw the ramifications.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, the alcohol floor price unit. That was part of
the processes that we undertook as labor to make sure
that there were some other mechanisms. There's not a one
stop shop in terms of fixing the alcohol harm and
the impact of alcohol harm in the Northern Territory, Katie.
But you know, we have seen some positive benefits to
(14:10):
that policy. MEN'SI School of Health, which most territories will
know very trusted in Independent Health Institute provided some very
clear stats fourteen percent of reduction in our corelated assaults
in the Northern Territory because of that policy, eleven percent
of reduction in family domestic violent violence assaults in the territory,
and nineteen percent reduction of our coorelated emergency department attendance
(14:33):
as Katie, so every bit helps with what do you
reckon ensure that there's less harm in our community?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Why do you reckon that? We're in a situation though,
where despite those numbers, a lot of Territorians still want
these scrapped and do not believe it's working.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I mean, I'm sure I can't talk to how people
are feeling about that. But when we do want to
see what policies work and don't work in the territory,
people go to data. So having a look at independent
data is always really important to be able to inform,
to shape to guide government policy because we want to
see government policy that benefits everyone in the territory, Katie,
(15:13):
and people may not like that particular policy, but you know,
the data does speak for itself. But I think it
is very very concerning, Katie that the Celpick government, who
recognizes and who has spoken about alcohol harm in the
community whilst they were in opposition for the four years
over the last four years, they're now saying, oh, we're
(15:35):
going to reduce sorry, we're going to scrap this policy
which they don't believe reduces harm in the community, which
clearly this that say otherwise. And they're doing it in
a week where we've just seen the coronial Inquesse of
seventeen months and the coroner say that alcohol availability in
the territory needs to be reduced. So I don't understand, Katie,
(15:56):
why the Celpick government is pursuing this as a process
that they are going to undertake, particularly this week of
all weeks in the territory, but particularly as a government
who wants to be responsible around reducing alcohol harm in
the community and ignoring the stats, ignoring the independent research
and ignoring the health benefits for territories when it comes
(16:18):
to alcohol harm.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Selena, we are going to have to leave it there.
I know you've got to get into Parliament as well.
Thank you so very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Thank you, Katie, I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Thank you.
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