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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I understand that the opposition leader Selena Rubo is joining
me on the line right now. Good morning to you, Selena.
Let me try that again. Good morning to Selena go
on and Katie listener, good to have you on the show. Now.
I mentioned just a short time ago a man has
alleged well, he allegedly killed his partner in Catherine is
(00:23):
expected to be charged with murder after she died last week.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Police found the sixty one year old woman with serious
injuries at a Katherine East home on the twelfth of October.
She was transferred to Royal Dalen Hospital but succumbed to
her injuries on Thursday. Now, her sixty eight year old
partner is due to face court next week, which is
when the DPP is going to upgrade his charges. It
is an absolute tragedy for the family, for the community
(00:51):
and hearing the couple had a history of domestic violence.
It's upsetting and frustrating that another woman has lost her life, Selena,
what needs to happen in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, o, Katie, it's devastating again another woman in the
territory to be lost to allegedly domestic violence and it's
just it just ricochets through our community, and you know
I live in Catherine. Many people know that I actually
live in Captain East, So it's really devastating to see
that news again. But I do appreciate I know that
(01:24):
you've been a strong advocate in making sure that there
is a spotlight on This is an issue that it's
not going to go away, and I think that's really
what we need to do is we need to continue
to talk about this. We need to continue to not
shy away from this is a really tough topic. We
need to make sure that everyone across the NT is
talking about the needs that we have to face to
(01:45):
make sure that we overcome domestic, family and sexual violence
in a northern territory. We've put an open invitation to
the new Colp government about the bipartisanship that we would
love to see in this space, and we will continue
to have that open invitation with the new Chief Minister
so we can really provide and needs based funding for family,
(02:07):
domestic and sexual violence prevention. We need to see more programs,
We need to keep talking about us. We need to
make sure it's not hidden behind closed doors, that we
don't become immune to this really tragic news and the
horrific state of affairs when it comes to domestic violence
in the Northern Territory. We need to keep up the
pressure and that's through the media. Like yourself failure. You're
a strong advocate and territory everyday territories as well as
(02:30):
industry and business.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Got to tell you, Selena, I'm getting really like, I'm
actually starting to get really pissed off about the fact
that this actually does not make headlines around the nation.
I mean, if we didn't have people like Matt Cunningham
at Sky News, if you didn't have the likes of
Lea Mendez writing for The Australian, very often these incredibly
tragic situations get absolutely no national media coverage. There is
(02:58):
no mention of the fact that there has been eight
women killed to domestic violence allegedly since you know, in
the last couple of months here in the Northern Territory.
It's a national shame.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I absolutely agree, Katie. There's not the same level of
outrage nationally that you see when a territory and an
Aboriginal woman in particular in the Territory dies from domestic violence.
Doesn't matter what color someone is, if they've experienced domestic
violence or unfortunately then succumb to injuries like the lady
and Catherine because of domestic violence. This should be a
(03:35):
national outrage. This should be something that people are crying out,
not just in the territory, to have more support and resourcing,
to really get to the crux and to nail down
the causes of domestic violence and supporting Territorians who are
experiencing domestic violence. And it just goes on deaf years.
It becomes a little, you know topic. It might come
(03:56):
a you know, a small column in a news print
or you know, a quick mention on the news and
they're off. It goes that, it just completely disappears. But
obviously the impact is the territory. I always say we're
two degrees of separation, not fixed. So we feel hurt
in our community, we feel pain in our community a
lot closer than what those larger jurisdictions do. But we
(04:17):
also need more support in the territory compared to the
larger jurisdictions because of the small point.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So just the Minister for Indigenous Australians is our very
own Malandarie McCarthy. Are these conversations. I know you're no
longer in government. But are these conversations that are being
had with Malandieri's office And I know that she would
feel very passionately about this, But I firmly believe everybody
does need to sit down, They need to get to
(04:43):
the table, they need to go What do we need
to do differently to try to stop women from being
killed at the hands allegedly of their partners.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I yeah, Mallanderie is doing a really good job putting
territory issues. She's got the role now nationally as the
Indigenous Affairs Minister to advocate all across the country, but
in particular her background and her knowledge and having a
large obviously electorate as a senator in the Northern Territory
provides us at least with a bit of insight into
(05:16):
all the territory I should say a bit of insight
into that cabinet room federally. But when we talk about
what the changes are of resourcing for the Northern Territory, Katie,
you know, we've secured here in the Northern Territory a
remote housing deal that goes beyond politics, which is great.
We secured an education deal that goes beyond politics, which
is great. We need to secure a health deal. We
(05:37):
need to secure a near the funding deal. They're the
two big pieces that are missing in the Northern territory.
But I don't care what side of politics you are.
We're going to make a difference if we get the
funding that we deserve in the territory to actually make
a difference in this space. So when it comes to that,
we very openly will support the new government in having
that bipartisan approach and we really want to keep hammering
(05:58):
like we did for eight years as a labor government.
We want to support the Theop government to hammer that
door down in Canberra to get needs based funding for
domestic found in sexual vices. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Good, because I think is spot on. This is something
that it does not matter which side of politics you
come from. We have to not even be concerned about that.
We've got to work together to try and sort this out. Minister,
sorry Opposition leader. I do want to move along. In
news this morning, we know that Nicole Madison has revealed
that she has taken a role with Tamboran Resources. Do
(06:31):
you think it's appropriate? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I know that the Coal has announced her news around
her new job with tam Boran and I believe somebody
like Nicole will really put the territory front and center
in that international company, and particularly the work that she's
done in the last many years of course fighting and
advocating for the territory. I know that there are some concerns,
(06:57):
Katie of around heard a little bit of the end
of the previous segment that you were talking. You know,
Nicole did finish up her role as a minister in December,
so she wasn't part of any cabinet government decision making
for Nelly what do we now November, so just you know,
just over eleven months. And I know obviously she stepped
(07:19):
down with the August election, and that's sort of where
people are going, Oh, what about the timing And unfortunately
there's no clear outline around saying when someone can take
up a job that may have, you know, interfaced with
their previous role in government. I think the rule of
thumb is usually six months from being a minister, and
(07:40):
obviously Nicole hasn't been a minister for eleven months. But
I understand that people may be concerned. But I think
in terms of the caliber of the person that Nicole
Madison is, the fighting for the territory particularly jobs, loving
the territory, the lifestyle, the environment. I think somebody liked
Nicole in a really key role like huge company like
(08:01):
Tambora and will be good for the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Some have questioned whether she was the minister though when
any of the approvals for that project were granted, I mean,
do you know if she was, So.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
My timelines around who was minister for what when we
went through particular proposals aren't very clear. But when we
talk about environmental protections, and I think a lot of
the concern is coming from environmental groups and understand why.
But I think the work that Nicole did in making
sure the Northern Territory had the most robust legislation and
(08:35):
policies and regulations around environmental protection for the natural gas
industry and on shore gas industry, I think is a
testament to her love of the territory and I think
that she'll carry that on, of course into the new role.
So that'll be again, I believe, really good for the
Northern Territory because she has that background. She was part
of the government who had a three year moratorium on
(08:57):
any type of industry around on shore gas. I think
people should have a bit of comfort, but that her
integrity will carrying too this new role as well.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All Right, just before I let you go this morning,
we know that the government have announced it they are
not continuing the twelve year partnership with the Paramatta Eels.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Look.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
As a non Paramatter Eels fan, I'm not too concerned.
I hope that they're ready to for Jaya a partnership
with someone else. But what do you make of USh?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, I'm disappointed and I'm not a Paramotta Eels fan either, Katie,
But I think what they've brought to the territory for
the last twelve years has been fantastic. When if the
young territoriums, young people looking at the pathways through those
development programs that the Eels have offered, and having access
to elite athletes in the Northern territory that we only
(09:46):
ever really see on TV. Having that partnership I think
is fantastic. And yeah, to hear that it's now just
sort of falling by the wayside and we'll have to
wait and see what comes next is disappoint and I
think it's a little bit you know, gutless of the
Colp government to not actually come out and just talk
(10:06):
about it. You know, they're like front footing things and
this is one that they just handballed to their department
to announce. So I just feel like it's not a
really strong way to start when we're talking about if
there is a change in partnership, what's going to look like.
There's some questions territories have, especially Flea fans really sad
for the Paramount ill fans of course, but you know,
(10:28):
we don't know what's coming next, so I think, yeah,
the government needs to really step up and tell us
what the plans are forwards.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Any team you'd like to see in the Northern Territory?
Who are you a fan of? Selina?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm a Cowboys fan? Fair enough, they're kind of already
far North Queensland, so I don't know if they would
ever come and adopt the Northern Territory because probably too similar.
But I just think having that elite athlete here in
the territory is great because we know brings in some
more money, but it also just allows those pathways. And
(10:59):
you know, I'm a former TV katie. You can't be
what you can't see. So we've got young territori ins
are looking at becoming athletes in that field and actually
seeing home games makes a huge impact on young people.
I mean, I'm an Essendon fand Katie with AFL and
that's because the first live AFL game over watched was Essendon. Yeah,
(11:20):
well this is yes because of that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, it is. Look, I think that having sport here
in the Northern Territory at a high level is a
wonderful thing. The government have said that they are continuing
those discussions, so we'll see what we can find out.
But oppositionally to Selena Ubo. Always great to speak with you.
Thank you so very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Thank you, Katie, talk to you so thank you.
I understand that the opposition leader Selena Rubo is joining
me on the line right now. Good morning to you, Selena.
Let me try that again. Good morning to Selena go
on and Katie listener, good to have you on the show. Now.
I mentioned just a short time ago a man has
alleged well, he allegedly killed his partner in Catherine is
(00:23):
expected to be charged with murder after she died last week.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Police found the sixty one year old woman with serious
injuries at a Katherine East home on the twelfth of October.
She was transferred to Royal Dalen Hospital but succumbed to
her injuries on Thursday. Now, her sixty eight year old
partner is due to face court next week, which is
when the DPP is going to upgrade his charges. It
is an absolute tragedy for the family, for the community
(00:51):
and hearing the couple had a history of domestic violence.
It's upsetting and frustrating that another woman has lost her life, Selena,
what needs to happen in your opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, o, Katie, it's devastating again another woman in the
territory to be lost to allegedly domestic violence and it's
just it just ricochets through our community, and you know
I live in Catherine. Many people know that I actually
live in Captain East, So it's really devastating to see
that news again. But I do appreciate I know that
(01:24):
you've been a strong advocate in making sure that there
is a spotlight on This is an issue that it's
not going to go away, and I think that's really
what we need to do is we need to continue
to talk about this. We need to continue to not
shy away from this is a really tough topic. We
need to make sure that everyone across the NT is
talking about the needs that we have to face to
(01:45):
make sure that we overcome domestic, family and sexual violence
in a northern territory. We've put an open invitation to
the new Colp government about the bipartisanship that we would
love to see in this space, and we will continue
to have that open invitation with the new Chief Minister
so we can really provide and needs based funding for family,
(02:07):
domestic and sexual violence prevention. We need to see more programs,
We need to keep talking about us. We need to
make sure it's not hidden behind closed doors, that we
don't become immune to this really tragic news and the
horrific state of affairs when it comes to domestic violence
in the Northern Territory. We need to keep up the
pressure and that's through the media. Like yourself failure. You're
a strong advocate and territory everyday territories as well as
(02:30):
industry and business.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Got to tell you, Selena, I'm getting really like, I'm
actually starting to get really pissed off about the fact
that this actually does not make headlines around the nation.
I mean, if we didn't have people like Matt Cunningham
at Sky News, if you didn't have the likes of
Lea Mendez writing for The Australian, very often these incredibly
tragic situations get absolutely no national media coverage. There is
(02:58):
no mention of the fact that there has been eight
women killed to domestic violence allegedly since you know, in
the last couple of months here in the Northern Territory.
It's a national shame.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I absolutely agree, Katie. There's not the same level of
outrage nationally that you see when a territory and an
Aboriginal woman in particular in the Territory dies from domestic violence.
Doesn't matter what color someone is, if they've experienced domestic
violence or unfortunately then succumb to injuries like the lady
and Catherine because of domestic violence. This should be a
(03:35):
national outrage. This should be something that people are crying out,
not just in the territory, to have more support and resourcing,
to really get to the crux and to nail down
the causes of domestic violence and supporting Territorians who are
experiencing domestic violence. And it just goes on deaf years.
It becomes a little, you know topic. It might come
(03:56):
a you know, a small column in a news print
or you know, a quick mention on the news and
they're off. It goes that, it just completely disappears. But
obviously the impact is the territory. I always say we're
two degrees of separation, not fixed. So we feel hurt
in our community, we feel pain in our community a
lot closer than what those larger jurisdictions do. But we
(04:17):
also need more support in the territory compared to the
larger jurisdictions because of the small point.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So just the Minister for Indigenous Australians is our very
own Malandarie McCarthy. Are these conversations. I know you're no
longer in government. But are these conversations that are being
had with Malandieri's office And I know that she would
feel very passionately about this, But I firmly believe everybody
does need to sit down, They need to get to
(04:43):
the table, they need to go What do we need
to do differently to try to stop women from being
killed at the hands allegedly of their partners.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I yeah, Mallanderie is doing a really good job putting
territory issues. She's got the role now nationally as the
Indigenous Affairs Minister to advocate all across the country, but
in particular her background and her knowledge and having a
large obviously electorate as a senator in the Northern Territory
provides us at least with a bit of insight into
(05:16):
all the territory I should say a bit of insight
into that cabinet room federally. But when we talk about
what the changes are of resourcing for the Northern Territory, Katie,
you know, we've secured here in the Northern Territory a
remote housing deal that goes beyond politics, which is great.
We secured an education deal that goes beyond politics, which
is great. We need to secure a health deal. We
(05:37):
need to secure a near the funding deal. They're the
two big pieces that are missing in the Northern territory.
But I don't care what side of politics you are.
We're going to make a difference if we get the
funding that we deserve in the territory to actually make
a difference in this space. So when it comes to that,
we very openly will support the new government in having
that bipartisan approach and we really want to keep hammering
(05:58):
like we did for eight years as a labor government.
We want to support the Theop government to hammer that
door down in Canberra to get needs based funding for
domestic found in sexual vices. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Good, because I think is spot on. This is something
that it does not matter which side of politics you
come from. We have to not even be concerned about that.
We've got to work together to try and sort this out. Minister,
sorry Opposition leader. I do want to move along. In
news this morning, we know that Nicole Madison has revealed
that she has taken a role with Tamboran Resources. Do
(06:31):
you think it's appropriate? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I know that the Coal has announced her news around
her new job with tam Boran and I believe somebody
like Nicole will really put the territory front and center
in that international company, and particularly the work that she's
done in the last many years of course fighting and
advocating for the territory. I know that there are some concerns,
(06:57):
Katie of around heard a little bit of the end
of the previous segment that you were talking. You know,
Nicole did finish up her role as a minister in December,
so she wasn't part of any cabinet government decision making
for Nelly what do we now November, so just you know,
just over eleven months. And I know obviously she stepped
(07:19):
down with the August election, and that's sort of where
people are going, Oh, what about the timing And unfortunately
there's no clear outline around saying when someone can take
up a job that may have, you know, interfaced with
their previous role in government. I think the rule of
thumb is usually six months from being a minister, and
(07:40):
obviously Nicole hasn't been a minister for eleven months. But
I understand that people may be concerned. But I think
in terms of the caliber of the person that Nicole
Madison is, the fighting for the territory particularly jobs, loving
the territory, the lifestyle, the environment. I think somebody liked
Nicole in a really key role like huge company like
(08:01):
Tambora and will be good for the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Some have questioned whether she was the minister though when
any of the approvals for that project were granted, I mean,
do you know if she was, So.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
My timelines around who was minister for what when we
went through particular proposals aren't very clear. But when we
talk about environmental protections, and I think a lot of
the concern is coming from environmental groups and understand why.
But I think the work that Nicole did in making
sure the Northern Territory had the most robust legislation and
(08:35):
policies and regulations around environmental protection for the natural gas
industry and on shore gas industry, I think is a
testament to her love of the territory and I think
that she'll carry that on, of course into the new role.
So that'll be again, I believe, really good for the
Northern Territory because she has that background. She was part
of the government who had a three year moratorium on
(08:57):
any type of industry around on shore gas. I think
people should have a bit of comfort, but that her
integrity will carrying too this new role as well.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
All Right, just before I let you go this morning,
we know that the government have announced it they are
not continuing the twelve year partnership with the Paramatta Eels.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Look.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
As a non Paramatter Eels fan, I'm not too concerned.
I hope that they're ready to for Jaya a partnership
with someone else. But what do you make of USh?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, I'm disappointed and I'm not a Paramotta Eels fan either, Katie,
But I think what they've brought to the territory for
the last twelve years has been fantastic. When if the
young territoriums, young people looking at the pathways through those
development programs that the Eels have offered, and having access
to elite athletes in the Northern territory that we only
(09:46):
ever really see on TV. Having that partnership I think
is fantastic. And yeah, to hear that it's now just
sort of falling by the wayside and we'll have to
wait and see what comes next is disappoint and I
think it's a little bit you know, gutless of the
Colp government to not actually come out and just talk
(10:06):
about it. You know, they're like front footing things and
this is one that they just handballed to their department
to announce. So I just feel like it's not a
really strong way to start when we're talking about if
there is a change in partnership, what's going to look like.
There's some questions territories have, especially Flea fans really sad
for the Paramount ill fans of course, but you know,
(10:28):
we don't know what's coming next, so I think, yeah,
the government needs to really step up and tell us
what the plans are forwards.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Any team you'd like to see in the Northern Territory?
Who are you a fan of? Selina?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
I'm a Cowboys fan? Fair enough, they're kind of already
far North Queensland, so I don't know if they would
ever come and adopt the Northern Territory because probably too similar.
But I just think having that elite athlete here in
the territory is great because we know brings in some
more money, but it also just allows those pathways. And
(10:59):
you know, I'm a former TV katie. You can't be
what you can't see. So we've got young territori ins
are looking at becoming athletes in that field and actually
seeing home games makes a huge impact on young people.
I mean, I'm an Essendon fand Katie with AFL and
that's because the first live AFL game over watched was Essendon. Yeah,
(11:20):
well this is yes because of that.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, it is. Look, I think that having sport here
in the Northern Territory at a high level is a
wonderful thing. The government have said that they are continuing
those discussions, so we'll see what we can find out.
But oppositionally to Selena Ubo. Always great to speak with you.
Thank you so very much for your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Thank you, Katie, talk to you so thank you.
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