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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We quite often on this show gets contacted by listeners
pretty concerned about bad behavior from neighbors. Now, my next
guest is one listener who's contacted a public housing provider
on several occasions, but concerns about concerns in Woodroffe. And
she's speaking out because quite frankly, she's fed up with
(00:21):
it falling on deaf ears. Her name's Robbie. She joins
me on the line. Right now, get a Robbie.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, Katie, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You're really good, lovely to have you on the show now,
thank you, Robbie. I understand that you've been dealing with
bad tenants next door for some time. Now, can you
tell us about what some of some of what's being
experienced and what kind of impact it's having.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I mean basically we've been dealing with bad tenants
now for fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Wow, that's a long time, Robbie, that's a bloody long time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Three lots of different bad tenants. So I think we've
got a bit of you know, CBTs, chronic bad tenant syndrome.
We've we just set up. We don't even know what
to do. We're at our weekend, we have it's been
years of constant reporting to police, to housing territory, families,
local members, now you guys as well, and it just all,
(01:19):
like you said, seems to fall on death is nobody
wants to know about it. Everyone just sort of goes, oh, yes, ess,
we're investigating it, we're looking we're looking into it, we're
looking for a solution. But nothing happens. So they just
tell us what we want to hear and then they,
you know, hang up on us or shut the door
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nothing changes. Now we won't name the service provider. I
mean we probably can if we want to, but essentially
it's a community housing provider that manages the house next door.
But really, you know, the manage of management of it,
I would argue, isn't happening real? Well, if you've got
a situation where there is food waste being left around,
(01:55):
there's fighting, there's yelling, there is bad behavior, there's damage
to the property, all sorts of things, things being thrown
into your yard.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yes, Actually, as a spanner came over our fence on
Monday afternoon, you're joking, no, And so I went and
spoke to the kids who did it, and I said,
what if you hit one of our dogs or I
could have been driving my car in right when that
came over the fence, and they know, they didn't care,
you know, it didn't mean anything to them, but you know,
(02:26):
and the thing was this. You know, while it is
a non government organization that is providing the property management,
it ultimately is funded by the government, I'm assuming, and
there's the amount of tax pay money that's being wasted
on this property and would be one of many I
would imagine propertyless situation. I know for a fact that
(02:47):
the last there's been two full referves since we've been
in the last fourteen years. The last one I know
cost upward to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Wow,
and it is now trashed again, way in the space
of ten months. It's an absolute Yeah. Yeah, it's disgraceful.
(03:08):
We can't even sit on our balcony because I don't
want to look into that yard.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah it is. That is not good. And you know,
by the sounds of it, you and your husband are
feeling pretty helpless. So I mean, you guys have sent
me quite like a number of emails or ccb into
some of those emails, and I appreciate it because I
think that. It actually gives me and it gives others
some context into the ongoing relentless bad behavior that's being experienced,
(03:35):
Like what's been the feedback from that housing provider, but
also from the local member, from the government everybody, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
From the housing provider is pretty much niga. It's pretty
much nothing. It's nothing. There's no action taking it all.
There's been nothing done that. There's the odd they'll see
they'll put a few bags of rubbish in a ute
and maybe take them to the tip. Maybe sometimes it's
like oh that they must have got a phone call,
but that's the extent of it. Really. I think they've
attended the property perhaps early in when we started complaining
(04:07):
at Chris just after Christmas time about these particular tenants.
So they've basically done zero nothing. Local Member Matchikel. He's
been helpful, but I think his hands are tied as
well by the legislation and various things about the difficulty
in moving tenants on currently it's very difficult to do that.
(04:28):
But he did also advise us, you know, there's thousands
of thousands of great, hard working families who would love
a home.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right, you know, you're the.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Ones that are in there at the moment. They just
don't they don't care about anything. They now have chicks
in the house.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah. I don't even know what to say, Robbie, because
I'd be beside myself if they were next door. And
also though you know, every time the family moves out,
or every time someone moves out, you'd be worried about
who's going to move in next?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, well we are now and then it just seems
to be going from bad to work. Yeah, and so
probably I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Know, like I know that I know it's managed by
a housing provider, right, but as we've discussed ultimately, I
would imagine that it's been that they're being funded by
the Northern Territory government or the federal government. What is
your message for the government, you know, with this house
next door, but also you know, to anybody living next
(05:23):
door to problem public housing tenants or those that are
actually managed by you know, by a social housing organization
and not doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, I mean I think the message is can people
start doing their job? And there is expectations, you know,
as a member of a you know, a community, a
neighborhood to have some respect for not only your own property,
but for the people who live around you. And that's
just lacking and there's there's no consequence. Is the other
thing that absolutely blow their mind is that they do
(05:59):
They destroy, destroy windows, they destroy clotheslines, they destroy gates,
they destroy I hate to think what the inside of
their house looks like. But there's no consequences, so they
just keep doing whatever they're doing, which is unfair on
you know, other renters, give an unleveled playing field, because
I mean, anyone who's renting from elders or elder hooker,
you treat the property like that you're not going to
(06:19):
be in it for very long, yeah, and you're going
to get a big bill.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah. But you know, Robbie, the other part of it
is these like a nine year wait list or nine years,
you know, like people are on that public housing wait
list for up to nine years. You know, we're talking
then people with disabilities, you're talking seniors. You're talking families
that are in need having to wait while others are
in homes and not looking after them exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And it's just you know, and I don't know who.
No one seems to want to take responsibility for this
issue at all everyone just put pass the bucks onto
this from the next person, or just ignore it, pretend
it's not happening. But it is because it's happening to us. Yeah,
and it's you know, it's quality of life is you
know important. We're just a normal, hard working family, but
we feel uncomfortable in our own home a lot of
(07:07):
the time, waiting to see what are they going to
do next?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, Robbie, it sucks. That absolutely sucks. I'd be furious,
look the bit. I mean, all I can do is
raise it and try my best to put a bit
of a spotlight on it and hope that it embarrasses
someone into doing something, you know, and we'll continue to
do that. So please continue to keep me up to
date with what's going on, and keep you know, like,
(07:31):
if there is any progress, let me know. Yeah, because
you know, I get in turn, like if someone's doing
a good job and they do bloody sorted out, I
think excellent. I'm happy to scream it from the rooftops.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, exactly, you know. Yeah, I mean we can't even sell.
We're trapped basically.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, my husband was advised that we'd probably lose two
hundred K if we try to sell it, it would
actually be wed, so we can't sell it. And we've
we's just going to stay there and just and it
seems that we just have to put up with it,
which is not not right.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That is not Yeah, it's just not on. Robbie. I
really appreciate you having a chat with me this morning.
Let's stay in touch. I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Absolutely, thanks, thank you anytime.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Thank you, Robbie.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Thanks
We quite often on this show gets contacted by listeners
pretty concerned about bad behavior from neighbors. Now, my next
guest is one listener who's contacted a public housing provider
on several occasions, but concerns about concerns in Woodroffe. And
she's speaking out because quite frankly, she's fed up with
(00:21):
it falling on deaf ears. Her name's Robbie. She joins
me on the line. Right now, get a Robbie.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Hey, Katie, how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You're really good, lovely to have you on the show now,
thank you, Robbie. I understand that you've been dealing with
bad tenants next door for some time. Now, can you
tell us about what some of some of what's being
experienced and what kind of impact it's having.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I mean basically we've been dealing with bad tenants
now for fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Wow, that's a long time, Robbie, that's a bloody long time.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Three lots of different bad tenants. So I think we've
got a bit of you know, CBTs, chronic bad tenant syndrome.
We've we just set up. We don't even know what
to do. We're at our weekend, we have it's been
years of constant reporting to police, to housing territory, families,
local members, now you guys as well, and it just all,
(01:19):
like you said, seems to fall on death is nobody
wants to know about it. Everyone just sort of goes, oh, yes, ess,
we're investigating it, we're looking we're looking into it, we're
looking for a solution. But nothing happens. So they just
tell us what we want to hear and then they,
you know, hang up on us or shut the door
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Nothing changes. Now we won't name the service provider. I
mean we probably can if we want to, but essentially
it's a community housing provider that manages the house next door.
But really, you know, the manage of management of it,
I would argue, isn't happening real? Well, if you've got
a situation where there is food waste being left around,
(01:55):
there's fighting, there's yelling, there is bad behavior, there's damage
to the property, all sorts of things, things being thrown
into your yard.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yes, Actually, as a spanner came over our fence on
Monday afternoon, you're joking, no, And so I went and
spoke to the kids who did it, and I said,
what if you hit one of our dogs or I
could have been driving my car in right when that
came over the fence, and they know, they didn't care,
you know, it didn't mean anything to them, but you know,
(02:26):
and the thing was this. You know, while it is
a non government organization that is providing the property management,
it ultimately is funded by the government, I'm assuming, and
there's the amount of tax pay money that's being wasted
on this property and would be one of many I
would imagine propertyless situation. I know for a fact that
(02:47):
the last there's been two full referves since we've been
in the last fourteen years. The last one I know
cost upward to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Wow,
and it is now trashed again, way in the space
of ten months. It's an absolute Yeah. Yeah, it's disgraceful.
(03:08):
We can't even sit on our balcony because I don't
want to look into that yard.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah it is. That is not good. And you know,
by the sounds of it, you and your husband are
feeling pretty helpless. So I mean, you guys have sent
me quite like a number of emails or ccb into
some of those emails, and I appreciate it because I
think that. It actually gives me and it gives others
some context into the ongoing relentless bad behavior that's being experienced,
(03:35):
Like what's been the feedback from that housing provider, but
also from the local member, from the government everybody, okay.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
From the housing provider is pretty much niga. It's pretty
much nothing. It's nothing. There's no action taking it all.
There's been nothing done that. There's the odd they'll see
they'll put a few bags of rubbish in a ute
and maybe take them to the tip. Maybe sometimes it's
like oh that they must have got a phone call,
but that's the extent of it. Really. I think they've
attended the property perhaps early in when we started complaining
(04:07):
at Chris just after Christmas time about these particular tenants.
So they've basically done zero nothing. Local Member Matchikel. He's
been helpful, but I think his hands are tied as
well by the legislation and various things about the difficulty
in moving tenants on currently it's very difficult to do that.
(04:28):
But he did also advise us, you know, there's thousands
of thousands of great, hard working families who would love
a home.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly right, you know, you're the.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Ones that are in there at the moment. They just
don't they don't care about anything. They now have chicks
in the house.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Yeah. I don't even know what to say, Robbie, because
I'd be beside myself if they were next door. And
also though you know, every time the family moves out,
or every time someone moves out, you'd be worried about
who's going to move in next?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yes, well we are now and then it just seems
to be going from bad to work. Yeah, and so
probably I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Know, like I know that I know it's managed by
a housing provider, right, but as we've discussed ultimately, I
would imagine that it's been that they're being funded by
the Northern Territory government or the federal government. What is
your message for the government, you know, with this house
next door, but also you know, to anybody living next
(05:23):
door to problem public housing tenants or those that are
actually managed by you know, by a social housing organization
and not doing the right thing.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, I mean I think the message is can people
start doing their job? And there is expectations, you know,
as a member of a you know, a community, a
neighborhood to have some respect for not only your own property,
but for the people who live around you. And that's
just lacking and there's there's no consequence. Is the other
thing that absolutely blow their mind is that they do
(05:59):
They destroy, destroy windows, they destroy clotheslines, they destroy gates,
they destroy I hate to think what the inside of
their house looks like. But there's no consequences, so they
just keep doing whatever they're doing, which is unfair on
you know, other renters, give an unleveled playing field, because
I mean, anyone who's renting from elders or elder hooker,
you treat the property like that you're not going to
(06:19):
be in it for very long, yeah, and you're going
to get a big bill.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah. But you know, Robbie, the other part of it
is these like a nine year wait list or nine years,
you know, like people are on that public housing wait
list for up to nine years. You know, we're talking
then people with disabilities, you're talking seniors. You're talking families
that are in need having to wait while others are
in homes and not looking after them exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And it's just you know, and I don't know who.
No one seems to want to take responsibility for this
issue at all everyone just put pass the bucks onto
this from the next person, or just ignore it, pretend
it's not happening. But it is because it's happening to us. Yeah,
and it's you know, it's quality of life is you
know important. We're just a normal, hard working family, but
we feel uncomfortable in our own home a lot of
(07:07):
the time, waiting to see what are they going to
do next?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, Robbie, it sucks. That absolutely sucks. I'd be furious,
look the bit. I mean, all I can do is
raise it and try my best to put a bit
of a spotlight on it and hope that it embarrasses
someone into doing something, you know, and we'll continue to
do that. So please continue to keep me up to
date with what's going on, and keep you know, like,
(07:31):
if there is any progress, let me know. Yeah, because
you know, I get in turn, like if someone's doing
a good job and they do bloody sorted out, I
think excellent. I'm happy to scream it from the rooftops.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, exactly, you know. Yeah, I mean we can't even sell.
We're trapped basically.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, my husband was advised that we'd probably lose two
hundred K if we try to sell it, it would
actually be wed, so we can't sell it. And we've
we's just going to stay there and just and it
seems that we just have to put up with it,
which is not not right.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
That is not Yeah, it's just not on. Robbie. I
really appreciate you having a chat with me this morning.
Let's stay in touch. I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Absolutely, thanks, thank you anytime.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Thank you, Robbie.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Thanks
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