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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We know the Alice Springs based People's Action Alcohol Whole
Action Coalition I'm struggling with that today, has taken aim
at Endeavor Drinks Group and Coals after the Coalition claim
the company made the decision to sell low priced wine
while the other seven takeaway outlets in Alice Springs have
agreed to keep the price at a dollar thirty a drink.
(00:22):
That's despite the CLP's repeal of the minimum unit price
provisions of the Liquor Act that took effect on the
first of March. Now, joining us on the line to
talk more about this is doctor John Boffer, PAX spokesperson.
Good morning to you, doctor Boffer. Good Katie, thanks so
much for your time this morning. Now, the People's Alcohol
(00:44):
Action Coalition issued the statement earlier in the week claiming
and Devor Drinks and Coals have dropped the prices, Doctor Boffer,
how cheap are we talking? And where have you seen
this happening?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So look, we're talking a dollar standard drinks, eight dollars
of red wine and similar to bottles of white. It's
happening at liquor Land and the Endeavor outlet's b WS.
It's not happening anywhere else, because, as you just pointed out,
we have a voluntary liquor cord, which was incredibly well
(01:17):
received by the community when it was announced, with all
the other outlets participating. There was some suggestion that initially
the Endeavor Group and Liquor Name will be part of it.
They're not part of it. And although they're claiming that well,
they probably do have a limit, which the limits to
a dollar as fund of drink is way too cheap.
(01:38):
This town does not need this. We do not need
alcohol at this level back on the market. We waited.
We didn't go public with this until we saw how
quickly these products are going off the shells. So starts
off with one row, then you've got three rows, and
then if you go into these outlets, you'll see that
every shelf full except these cheap wine shells are empty.
(02:00):
So this just shows you how quickly people find the
cheapest form of alcohol. We don't need this, and we
really are employing the Endeavor Group and Liquor Land to
join the other springs who accord.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Doctor Boffer, why is this move the wrong move? When
I guess some listening this morning, you're going to be saying, well,
people are still going to be drinking regardless of the price,
and they're still going to get their hands on alcohol
no matter what.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, that's true. People will still drink regardless of the price,
but they'll drink less. That's the whole point. This is
not about stopping people and drinking. It's people getting less
joint less often causing less harm. And look, I just
want to comment. I noticed the endeavor greeps come out
saying they've implemented voluntary restrictions on sales volume MAgric limits.
(02:47):
Those volumemegic limits are useless. I'd be quite happy for
them to stop it straight away. This is self promotion,
not health promotion. So if we're serious about what needs
to be done to help the police address clot running,
we'd allow the data from the BDR to go to
the police so the police are aware of who are
the people in the community who are buying large volumes
(03:10):
of alcohol every week. These sorts of self imposed by
eumetric limits don't cut it. What does cut it is
price and the training hours. Now, the training hours are
imposed by law by the government and they've been immensely successful.
Our take away three days duristic to take away trading hours.
They've had a big impact on our screens. The town
just recovering. We're recovering in terms of our reputation nationally,
(03:35):
and that's so important to this town, particularly in terms
of attracting workforce to all of the essential services. We
need cheap alcohol back on the market, like we need
a hole in the head, and they just need to
stop it, Doctor Boffer.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I know again, you know some will be listening this
morning and going is there evidence to support that the
minimum unit price made a big difference? I mean, what
would you sort of point to to demonstrate to people
that it has had a what do you have impact?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Look, there was evidence very much for the first after
it was implemented. It then became difficult because of COVID
and holy because other policy changes have happened to show
exactly what it was achieving. But the best evidence is
the incredible reduction in all causes alcohol mortality in the
Northern Territory that has gone down almost of the national average.
(04:24):
The national average bank six hundred thousand. We were at
seven and we started at sixteen, So we have produced
we were reducing alcoholo odd death. I predict that that's
going to be reversed because of the decision to have
been cheap alcohol back on the market, particularly and dar Now.
I know it is a territory wide problem here, but
at least in our springs, we've got the outlets who
(04:45):
live in this community who have seen the harm that
alcohol can do, who know that cheap alcohol is part
of the problem. I don't. We've moved on now. Outlets
themselves understand if if products are a cheap they go
out the door volumes like no other product does. So
people can see what cheap alcohol does in terms of
(05:05):
the contribution, the disproportioned contribution it makes to alcohololated hard
and I'm sure v group out of liquor Land know
that as well. So I think for our community, we've
got the biggest alcohol related for them in the nation.
We need a differential response. We need these two big
outlets who, after all, make an enormous amount of money
(05:27):
through their food. They've got monopolies, they've got great supermarkets.
People use them. They don't need to be making this
sort of money from cheap alcohol in this town.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Doctor Boffer, What are the next steps from your perspective?
I mean, obviously raising this publicly is the first step.
What are the next steps from your perspective. Have you
guys written to Endeavor Group, what do you plan to
do next?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, we're planning we're going to have a meeting with
the Endeavor Group. They've reached out already for a meeting
the Cold, haven't it. But we'll meet with Endeavor, We'll
talk to them. I encourage both Liquor Land and Endeavor
Group to talk to the police, talk to the police
at a high level and find out what they think,
talk to other people in the community. Like I just
(06:10):
think we're on a stage now where so many people
get this. We do not want this in this town.
And I think we will meet with Devor and hopefully
we'll meet with Colds and written to them and will
try and attempt to appeal to them to become part
of the court. Because after all, back in twenty eleven
when we first had a court and the court it
(06:32):
was led by Coles and Wilworth back then, So this
time every other outlet is doing it except then, which
is disappointing. So I think we're going to appeal to
them to become part of the court and set the
limit at a double thirty, which is giving me high
than where they're selling these sheep bottles and wine at
now well.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Doctor John Boffer, really appreciate your time this morning. Thank
you so very much for joining us, and thank you
for making us away.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Thanks Katie here
We know the Alice Springs based People's Action Alcohol Whole
Action Coalition I'm struggling with that today, has taken aim
at Endeavor Drinks Group and Coals after the Coalition claim
the company made the decision to sell low priced wine
while the other seven takeaway outlets in Alice Springs have
agreed to keep the price at a dollar thirty a drink.
(00:22):
That's despite the CLP's repeal of the minimum unit price
provisions of the Liquor Act that took effect on the
first of March. Now, joining us on the line to
talk more about this is doctor John Boffer, PAX spokesperson.
Good morning to you, doctor Boffer. Good Katie, thanks so
much for your time this morning. Now, the People's Alcohol
(00:44):
Action Coalition issued the statement earlier in the week claiming
and Devor Drinks and Coals have dropped the prices, Doctor Boffer,
how cheap are we talking? And where have you seen
this happening?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
So look, we're talking a dollar standard drinks, eight dollars
of red wine and similar to bottles of white. It's
happening at liquor Land and the Endeavor outlet's b WS.
It's not happening anywhere else, because, as you just pointed out,
we have a voluntary liquor cord, which was incredibly well
(01:17):
received by the community when it was announced, with all
the other outlets participating. There was some suggestion that initially
the Endeavor Group and Liquor Name will be part of it.
They're not part of it. And although they're claiming that well,
they probably do have a limit, which the limits to
a dollar as fund of drink is way too cheap.
(01:38):
This town does not need this. We do not need
alcohol at this level back on the market. We waited.
We didn't go public with this until we saw how
quickly these products are going off the shells. So starts
off with one row, then you've got three rows, and
then if you go into these outlets, you'll see that
every shelf full except these cheap wine shells are empty.
(02:00):
So this just shows you how quickly people find the
cheapest form of alcohol. We don't need this, and we
really are employing the Endeavor Group and Liquor Land to
join the other springs who accord.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Doctor Boffer, why is this move the wrong move? When
I guess some listening this morning, you're going to be saying, well,
people are still going to be drinking regardless of the price,
and they're still going to get their hands on alcohol
no matter what.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, that's true. People will still drink regardless of the price,
but they'll drink less. That's the whole point. This is
not about stopping people and drinking. It's people getting less
joint less often causing less harm. And look, I just
want to comment. I noticed the endeavor greeps come out
saying they've implemented voluntary restrictions on sales volume MAgric limits.
(02:47):
Those volumemegic limits are useless. I'd be quite happy for
them to stop it straight away. This is self promotion,
not health promotion. So if we're serious about what needs
to be done to help the police address clot running,
we'd allow the data from the BDR to go to
the police so the police are aware of who are
the people in the community who are buying large volumes
(03:10):
of alcohol every week. These sorts of self imposed by
eumetric limits don't cut it. What does cut it is
price and the training hours. Now, the training hours are
imposed by law by the government and they've been immensely successful.
Our take away three days duristic to take away trading hours.
They've had a big impact on our screens. The town
just recovering. We're recovering in terms of our reputation nationally,
(03:35):
and that's so important to this town, particularly in terms
of attracting workforce to all of the essential services. We
need cheap alcohol back on the market, like we need
a hole in the head, and they just need to
stop it, Doctor Boffer.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I know again, you know some will be listening this
morning and going is there evidence to support that the
minimum unit price made a big difference? I mean, what
would you sort of point to to demonstrate to people
that it has had a what do you have impact?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Look, there was evidence very much for the first after
it was implemented. It then became difficult because of COVID
and holy because other policy changes have happened to show
exactly what it was achieving. But the best evidence is
the incredible reduction in all causes alcohol mortality in the
Northern Territory that has gone down almost of the national average.
(04:24):
The national average bank six hundred thousand. We were at
seven and we started at sixteen, So we have produced
we were reducing alcoholo odd death. I predict that that's
going to be reversed because of the decision to have
been cheap alcohol back on the market, particularly and dar Now.
I know it is a territory wide problem here, but
at least in our springs, we've got the outlets who
(04:45):
live in this community who have seen the harm that
alcohol can do, who know that cheap alcohol is part
of the problem. I don't. We've moved on now. Outlets
themselves understand if if products are a cheap they go
out the door volumes like no other product does. So
people can see what cheap alcohol does in terms of
(05:05):
the contribution, the disproportioned contribution it makes to alcohololated hard
and I'm sure v group out of liquor Land know
that as well. So I think for our community, we've
got the biggest alcohol related for them in the nation.
We need a differential response. We need these two big
outlets who, after all, make an enormous amount of money
(05:27):
through their food. They've got monopolies, they've got great supermarkets.
People use them. They don't need to be making this
sort of money from cheap alcohol in this town.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Doctor Boffer, What are the next steps from your perspective?
I mean, obviously raising this publicly is the first step.
What are the next steps from your perspective. Have you
guys written to Endeavor Group, what do you plan to
do next?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, we're planning we're going to have a meeting with
the Endeavor Group. They've reached out already for a meeting
the Cold, haven't it. But we'll meet with Endeavor, We'll
talk to them. I encourage both Liquor Land and Endeavor
Group to talk to the police, talk to the police
at a high level and find out what they think,
talk to other people in the community. Like I just
(06:10):
think we're on a stage now where so many people
get this. We do not want this in this town.
And I think we will meet with Devor and hopefully
we'll meet with Colds and written to them and will
try and attempt to appeal to them to become part
of the court. Because after all, back in twenty eleven
when we first had a court and the court it
(06:32):
was led by Coles and Wilworth back then, So this
time every other outlet is doing it except then, which
is disappointing. So I think we're going to appeal to
them to become part of the court and set the
limit at a double thirty, which is giving me high
than where they're selling these sheep bottles and wine at
now well.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Doctor John Boffer, really appreciate your time this morning. Thank
you so very much for joining us, and thank you
for making us away.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Thanks Katie here
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