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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And joining me in the studio right now is the
president of the Northern Territory Police Association, Nathan Finn.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good morning to you, Finny, Good morning, Katie, Good morning
to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Finny, first off, what's your reaction been to this review.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We welcome the obviously release of the long overdue resource
Allocation Review, and it's only made possible by ously tylis
lobbying by the Association over many many years. So members
have obviously been waiting years for their concerns obviously to
be heard. And obviously the recommendations outline and the report
goes some way to alleviating some of the pressure placed
on them and obviously the chronic staffing and resourcing issues
(00:34):
we've faced over many many years. Katie, and we obviously
welcome this announcement that significant investment in the Northern Territory
Police Force, but there also needs to be stuff in
support of that as well, so around ligiatively change to
make sure that we're obviously doing the best possible job
with the amount of resources we've got. We've seen this
report highlight some severe deficiencies obviously and how that the
(00:54):
police force has been managed over many many years. It's
not reflective of obviously the current executive either. These have
been well known for many, many years and we've seen
the decline of obviously our police force have the last
specifically around obviously the last five or six years, and
the statistics obviously proved that as well and show that
the real struggle is and has been obviously on our
front line pace.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, look what struck me is I mean, there was
a lot that struck me from the review, but the
fact that five hundred I think was the number Northern
Territory police officers have taken part shows you just how
much they wanted their voices heard.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And definitely it's important to obviously have that ability to
obviously provide your reason and your version of events as well.
These members obviously have different sort of situations also as well,
they have different family structures, they have obviously see different
struggles that they have on a daily basis. Depending on
where you're deployed, if you're remote, if you're in urban,
if you're a regional there's all different issues to take
(01:53):
into consideration here. But the fact is that our police
force haven't been resourced appropriately for a number of number
of years and that pleasure has been placed on our
existing resources that we have.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, look, you know again reading it, I thought to myself,
a lot of this is not a huge surprise to me,
some of what Vince Kelly had published in that review,
because a lot of it's stuff that you guys have
actually published in your surveys over recent years as well,
in terms of your staffing levels, your morale, you know,
the sense of a lack of support.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Not surprising and no, no, definitely not surprising to us either, Kdie.
Our extensive resource allocation review submission that we made obviously
to Vince Kelly and his team was quite extensive as well.
So a number of these recommendations that obviously have come
forward from this review were put forward by the nt
Police Association obviously supported, but we see it as a
common sense approach obviously by the review team which has
(02:45):
led obviously by Vince Kelly and obviously a very strong
ties to the Northern Churchy Police Force and being the
president of the Police Association for many, many years as well,
he understands and he understands the pressure that's placed on
our policing resources. Haven't many many.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Year Finny fifteen out of the eighteen recommendations and I
know the Chief Minister was saying, Katie, there's so much
that we are obviously accepting, but a few of those
recommendations that they're not. One of them the palis on
the bottle shops, the other one the private security. Now
I said it earlier, and you know me, I'll say
it to your face because I know you guys are
maybe not so supportive of those two things. But I
(03:22):
suppose for the people of Alice Springs, for example, they
do see those palais as being effective. Then with the security,
I guess it's like it is that bit of a
support I suppose to the police, particularly over recent years
where we've just felt like we don't have enough.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It definitely is, Katie, we've seen this, and we'll touch
on the palies obviously, start with this was obviously a
recommendation of the Roylo review that police shouldn't be doing
this role over either. And now another independent reviews obviously
come through with the palies that shouldn't be done by
police and obviously they should be transitioning out. Obviously we
shouldn't be writing security to these licensed premises. This is
well known and we've had this obviously position for a
(03:59):
lot long time and an NTPA. It shouldn't be a
police officer standing in front of a bottle shop. We
should have legislation and obviously restrictions in place to obviously
addequally enforce that without a police officer needing to stand.
We don't have police officer standing on bottle shops anywhere
else in Australia. Why should we have this in the
Northern Territi. We should have legislative obviously powers and restrictions
in place to make sure that that's obviously taking.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Sugh so do you reckon? That's more what needs to
happen is maybe a rethink of the legislation around alcohol
and the alcohol sales, so that then we get to
a point where we don't need palis outside bottle.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Shops definitely, and that's where we should be getting to
and we shouldn't be obviously recommended that the police officer
there in the absence of obviously the pali positions. And
we've seen obviously restrictions in that place where they've been
transition to constables and now we haven't got the ability
to obviously manage these pali positions and the effect that
that has on our front line as well, given our
resources are currently I take an consideration. Obviously, announcements have
(04:51):
been made in the extra police. There's no extra police
at the moment though, Katie, and it's going to be
some months. We'd like to see we'd love to have
those two hundred on the spot now that that would
approve our morale and that had provailability to respond to
all we.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Have liked them a couple of years ago. I reckon Finnish.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Definitely, and we've obviously been asking for this now members
have been asking for this as well. It goes a
long way though these announcements. Yeah, but again how long
it takes, obviously come to fruition and how long is
that pressure is going to be placed on the front
line continuously. Now we have to work with our members
to make sure that they get the support they need
in a quickly and timely fashion.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And with the security, I mean, is there still a
place for security.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
There's a place for security, but we don't believe that
obviously that we're more suited to obviously to come under
the policing banner. And obviously the protective service officers like
we have into state that have that ability so they
can be deployed by us. They're managed under the police,
and they're also obviously subject to strong discipline processes as
well to make sure that obviously they're acting above and
(05:47):
beyond and inside their confines of their legislation.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Finny, are there any areas where you feel as either
review full short or areas that have maybe been missed again.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Interviews this morning obviously with Alie Springs. Alis Springs is
quite quite upset in relation to no announcement for additional
members in Alice Springs as I spoke to them. Obviously,
there was announcement and federal funding provided back in February
last year by the Prime Minister obviously mister Albanezi, and
for the thirty additional officers for Aller Springs, which we
haven't still seen come to fruition. We're still seeing a
number of members transferring out of Alice Springs from all
(06:23):
reports from discussions this morning with people down there, we're
about twenty nine to thirty members down on the establishment
from that time alone. We still haven't seen that come
into play. Obviously, we've seen the resources rushed to Elis
Springs over the last couple of weeks, which has obviously
provided that respite to our members down there, but for
all reports, all their members are going to be obviously
transitioning back out of Alice Springs and obviously South Australian
(06:46):
Police have just arrived there this morning, that the ten
officer contingent has arrived there this morning to take up
their duties obviously, and the concerns raised by the Police
Association of South Australia, and quite rightfully so it's their
members they need to make sure that they're protected and
obviously protected in doing what they're doing and doing deployed
in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
What do you think needs to be implemented as a
matter of urgency.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We need stuff and Katie, I don't know how we're
going to achieve that, and we need members on the
ground and members doing the role. Obviously, we've seen in
this report the staggering the time delays in we're getting
to respond to priority one instance. I believe you mentioned
something to the Chief Ministry before and I did have
an opportunity to quickly chat to the Chief Minis. It's
the first time we've obviously chatted since she's coming to
(07:32):
the Chief Minister role.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You see everyone in here, mate, just sang, you.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Just hang it and stalk you and your studio, Katie,
and we'll get to talk to everyone and anyone that
we can do and there in the hallway see everyone
this morning. But the main thing is to make sure
it's prioritized. And obviously I had some concerns with the
government that they didn't made that is announcements so quickly
(07:56):
and hadn't been through the budgetry process. I mentioned this
last week to you through discussions. I did actually hang
around with and wait for mister Potter because I hadn't
seen him for a number of weeks either, and I
had a quick chat with him outside the studio here
last week in relation to this, and they said they'd
passed all this information through budget in December and made
these recommendations through the budgetary process then so they could
make sure they could announce it when it did come out.
(08:17):
So obviously they've anticipated what the review is going to
come out with, and they've made these requirements in relation
to their budget going forward, so they can be obviously
budgeted straight away. So again I don't believe that this
report was too confidential to start with it. They've obviously
been some discussions with government throughout the process, and obviously
that identified that we did need the extra resources and
how they were going to obviously budget going forward.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So finny in terms of looking at these resources right
and look, I'm mindful of time because as I said,
we've got the opposition leader out there as well. But
in terms of looking at these resources and staffing being
really the area that we need to look at as
a matter of urgency, how do we get more boots
on the ground, and how do we do it quickly?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's a great question, Katie, And we've obviously seen and
asking for resources from inter state. I believe this is
an option to get some immediate respite for our members,
but again there's obviously a role and responsibility to obviously
getting that deployment in. We need these resources and now
it's not or I won't even say now is yesterday.
We obviously need these resources, and we've needed these for
a long time and their members are struggling with that.
(09:19):
And obviously the chief and the Commissioner can talk about
the amount of members on sick leave. This is due
to them, obviously and their failure to obviously manage our
police force and our expectations of what our police members
are doing day in day out. They struggle with the
workload that they're currently seeing. We've been telling government for
years the amount of workload that they're doing and they're
struggle with they're having and some of these members will
never come back to work Coatie. Unfortunately, they are damaged.
(09:42):
They are damaged by what we deal with and what
we see in the Northern Territory. It's horrific. If you
go out and being a police officer for more than
a five or ten year period, the amount of trauma
that you see, the amount of trauma that you take
on board, and the amount of trauma that you witness
is horrific and it has a toll on you lifelong effect.
And unfortunately these members have had that effect and don't
(10:03):
know how to deal with it and getting the appropriate treatment.
It doesn't mean that they're going to be able to
come back to policing. They are hurting, and they are
hurting big time. So when the government says we just
need all these police officers back, that ship sailed, unfortunately,
and a lot of these members are damaged because of
the policing work that they've done on behalf of the
NTI community.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'll tell you what you know. Look, it does the
review I think is a great thing and that it's
hopefully going to provide a guide now to the Northern
Territory government that they can't ignore. You know, right, we
need those police officers. We need to be responding to
crime more quickly than what we're currently able to because
we don't have enough police on the ground. But you know,
(10:42):
I suppose there's still a lot of a lot of
people feeling a bit skeptical because there has been what
feels like such a lack of action over recent years.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Definitely, and our police officers are the same kase they've
been promised this for a long time to get appropriate resourcing.
They haven't seen that, so they quotes skeptic go about
until they actually see it, and we actually see the
difference on the ground and obviously our ability to respond
to the level of crime we're seeing across the Northern Territory.
But again it's this great starting point obviously to rebuilding
the depleted Northern Territory Police force we've seen over many,
many years. And so this provides a roadmap for the
(11:12):
NTI government to obviously commit to appropriately budgetly support and
obviously implementation of the recommendation. So we're happy to work
with the government. We're happy to sit down with the
government obviously and ask those questions about the recommendations that
they don't support and work through those and find out
what their reasoning is behind it and why we need
to go obviously go forward, and how we're going to
go forward and make sure that they're our police officers
(11:32):
and our infrastructure support for our police off especially in
the remote areas, because we can announce support for our
remote areas handover heart to say we're going to have
three members at all their remote stations. We haven't got
the infrastructure support that they haven't got processes, and we've
got to make sure that we've got a plan going
forward to obviously replace our dilapidated infrastructure we've gotten remote areas,
to make sure it's an attractive place and a secure
(11:54):
place for our members to go into these remote communities.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, Nathan Finn, I always appreciate your time, mates, thank
you very much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Always appreciate your time and I appreciate obviously the work
that our men and women do in the Northern Territory
Police Force. Absolutely super proud obviously to be associated with
the Northern Churchy Police Force and now obviously the Northern
Territory Police Association. But the work they do day in,
day out is I take my hat off to them
because I definitely wouldn't be in a position I've now
to obviously support them without obviously going through that process
(12:23):
as well and making sure that they're supported and make
sure and that's my primary role.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They are working bloody hard and now we see just
how underresourced as well. So Nathan Finn, thank you as always.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Mate, Thank you, mate, chick, thank you
And joining me in the studio right now is the
president of the Northern Territory Police Association, Nathan Finn.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good morning to you, Finny, Good morning, Katie, Good morning
to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Finny, first off, what's your reaction been to this review.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We welcome the obviously release of the long overdue resource
Allocation Review, and it's only made possible by ously tylis
lobbying by the Association over many many years. So members
have obviously been waiting years for their concerns obviously to
be heard. And obviously the recommendations outline and the report
goes some way to alleviating some of the pressure placed
on them and obviously the chronic staffing and resourcing issues
(00:34):
we've faced over many many years. Katie, and we obviously
welcome this announcement that significant investment in the Northern Territory
Police Force, but there also needs to be stuff in
support of that as well, so around ligiatively change to
make sure that we're obviously doing the best possible job
with the amount of resources we've got. We've seen this
report highlight some severe deficiencies obviously and how that the
(00:54):
police force has been managed over many many years. It's
not reflective of obviously the current executive either. These have
been well known for many, many years and we've seen
the decline of obviously our police force have the last
specifically around obviously the last five or six years, and
the statistics obviously proved that as well and show that
the real struggle is and has been obviously on our
front line pace.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, look what struck me is I mean, there was
a lot that struck me from the review, but the
fact that five hundred I think was the number Northern
Territory police officers have taken part shows you just how
much they wanted their voices heard.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And definitely it's important to obviously have that ability to
obviously provide your reason and your version of events as well.
These members obviously have different sort of situations also as well,
they have different family structures, they have obviously see different
struggles that they have on a daily basis. Depending on
where you're deployed, if you're remote, if you're in urban,
if you're a regional there's all different issues to take
(01:53):
into consideration here. But the fact is that our police
force haven't been resourced appropriately for a number of number
of years and that pleasure has been placed on our
existing resources that we have.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, look, you know again reading it, I thought to myself,
a lot of this is not a huge surprise to me,
some of what Vince Kelly had published in that review,
because a lot of it's stuff that you guys have
actually published in your surveys over recent years as well,
in terms of your staffing levels, your morale, you know,
the sense of a lack of support.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Not surprising and no, no, definitely not surprising to us either, Kdie.
Our extensive resource allocation review submission that we made obviously
to Vince Kelly and his team was quite extensive as well.
So a number of these recommendations that obviously have come
forward from this review were put forward by the nt
Police Association obviously supported, but we see it as a
common sense approach obviously by the review team which has
(02:45):
led obviously by Vince Kelly and obviously a very strong
ties to the Northern Churchy Police Force and being the
president of the Police Association for many, many years as well,
he understands and he understands the pressure that's placed on
our policing resources. Haven't many many.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Year Finny fifteen out of the eighteen recommendations and I
know the Chief Minister was saying, Katie, there's so much
that we are obviously accepting, but a few of those
recommendations that they're not. One of them the palis on
the bottle shops, the other one the private security. Now
I said it earlier, and you know me, I'll say
it to your face because I know you guys are
maybe not so supportive of those two things. But I
(03:22):
suppose for the people of Alice Springs, for example, they
do see those palais as being effective. Then with the security,
I guess it's like it is that bit of a
support I suppose to the police, particularly over recent years
where we've just felt like we don't have enough.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
It definitely is, Katie, we've seen this, and we'll touch
on the palies obviously, start with this was obviously a
recommendation of the Roylo review that police shouldn't be doing
this role over either. And now another independent reviews obviously
come through with the palies that shouldn't be done by
police and obviously they should be transitioning out. Obviously we
shouldn't be writing security to these licensed premises. This is
well known and we've had this obviously position for a
(03:59):
lot long time and an NTPA. It shouldn't be a
police officer standing in front of a bottle shop. We
should have legislation and obviously restrictions in place to obviously
addequally enforce that without a police officer needing to stand.
We don't have police officer standing on bottle shops anywhere
else in Australia. Why should we have this in the
Northern Territi. We should have legislative obviously powers and restrictions
in place to make sure that that's obviously taking.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Sugh so do you reckon? That's more what needs to
happen is maybe a rethink of the legislation around alcohol
and the alcohol sales, so that then we get to
a point where we don't need palis outside bottle.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Shops definitely, and that's where we should be getting to
and we shouldn't be obviously recommended that the police officer
there in the absence of obviously the pali positions. And
we've seen obviously restrictions in that place where they've been
transition to constables and now we haven't got the ability
to obviously manage these pali positions and the effect that
that has on our front line as well, given our
resources are currently I take an consideration. Obviously, announcements have
(04:51):
been made in the extra police. There's no extra police
at the moment though, Katie, and it's going to be
some months. We'd like to see we'd love to have
those two hundred on the spot now that that would
approve our morale and that had provailability to respond to
all we.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Have liked them a couple of years ago. I reckon Finnish.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Definitely, and we've obviously been asking for this now members
have been asking for this as well. It goes a
long way though these announcements. Yeah, but again how long
it takes, obviously come to fruition and how long is
that pressure is going to be placed on the front
line continuously. Now we have to work with our members
to make sure that they get the support they need
in a quickly and timely fashion.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
And with the security, I mean, is there still a
place for security.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
There's a place for security, but we don't believe that
obviously that we're more suited to obviously to come under
the policing banner. And obviously the protective service officers like
we have into state that have that ability so they
can be deployed by us. They're managed under the police,
and they're also obviously subject to strong discipline processes as
well to make sure that obviously they're acting above and
(05:47):
beyond and inside their confines of their legislation.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Finny, are there any areas where you feel as either
review full short or areas that have maybe been missed again.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Interviews this morning obviously with Alie Springs. Alis Springs is
quite quite upset in relation to no announcement for additional
members in Alice Springs as I spoke to them. Obviously,
there was announcement and federal funding provided back in February
last year by the Prime Minister obviously mister Albanezi, and
for the thirty additional officers for Aller Springs, which we
haven't still seen come to fruition. We're still seeing a
number of members transferring out of Alice Springs from all
(06:23):
reports from discussions this morning with people down there, we're
about twenty nine to thirty members down on the establishment
from that time alone. We still haven't seen that come
into play. Obviously, we've seen the resources rushed to Elis
Springs over the last couple of weeks, which has obviously
provided that respite to our members down there, but for
all reports, all their members are going to be obviously
transitioning back out of Alice Springs and obviously South Australian
(06:46):
Police have just arrived there this morning, that the ten
officer contingent has arrived there this morning to take up
their duties obviously, and the concerns raised by the Police
Association of South Australia, and quite rightfully so it's their
members they need to make sure that they're protected and
obviously protected in doing what they're doing and doing deployed
in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
What do you think needs to be implemented as a
matter of urgency.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We need stuff and Katie, I don't know how we're
going to achieve that, and we need members on the
ground and members doing the role. Obviously, we've seen in
this report the staggering the time delays in we're getting
to respond to priority one instance. I believe you mentioned
something to the Chief Ministry before and I did have
an opportunity to quickly chat to the Chief Minis. It's
the first time we've obviously chatted since she's coming to
(07:32):
the Chief Minister role.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
You see everyone in here, mate, just sang, you.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Just hang it and stalk you and your studio, Katie,
and we'll get to talk to everyone and anyone that
we can do and there in the hallway see everyone
this morning. But the main thing is to make sure
it's prioritized. And obviously I had some concerns with the
government that they didn't made that is announcements so quickly
(07:56):
and hadn't been through the budgetry process. I mentioned this
last week to you through discussions. I did actually hang
around with and wait for mister Potter because I hadn't
seen him for a number of weeks either, and I
had a quick chat with him outside the studio here
last week in relation to this, and they said they'd
passed all this information through budget in December and made
these recommendations through the budgetary process then so they could
make sure they could announce it when it did come out.
(08:17):
So obviously they've anticipated what the review is going to
come out with, and they've made these requirements in relation
to their budget going forward, so they can be obviously
budgeted straight away. So again I don't believe that this
report was too confidential to start with it. They've obviously
been some discussions with government throughout the process, and obviously
that identified that we did need the extra resources and
how they were going to obviously budget going forward.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
So finny in terms of looking at these resources right
and look, I'm mindful of time because as I said,
we've got the opposition leader out there as well. But
in terms of looking at these resources and staffing being
really the area that we need to look at as
a matter of urgency, how do we get more boots
on the ground, and how do we do it quickly?
Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's a great question, Katie, And we've obviously seen and
asking for resources from inter state. I believe this is
an option to get some immediate respite for our members,
but again there's obviously a role and responsibility to obviously
getting that deployment in. We need these resources and now
it's not or I won't even say now is yesterday.
We obviously need these resources, and we've needed these for
a long time and their members are struggling with that.
(09:19):
And obviously the chief and the Commissioner can talk about
the amount of members on sick leave. This is due
to them, obviously and their failure to obviously manage our
police force and our expectations of what our police members
are doing day in day out. They struggle with the
workload that they're currently seeing. We've been telling government for
years the amount of workload that they're doing and they're
struggle with they're having and some of these members will
never come back to work Coatie. Unfortunately, they are damaged.
(09:42):
They are damaged by what we deal with and what
we see in the Northern Territory. It's horrific. If you
go out and being a police officer for more than
a five or ten year period, the amount of trauma
that you see, the amount of trauma that you take
on board, and the amount of trauma that you witness
is horrific and it has a toll on you lifelong effect.
And unfortunately these members have had that effect and don't
(10:03):
know how to deal with it and getting the appropriate treatment.
It doesn't mean that they're going to be able to
come back to policing. They are hurting, and they are
hurting big time. So when the government says we just
need all these police officers back, that ship sailed, unfortunately,
and a lot of these members are damaged because of
the policing work that they've done on behalf of the
NTI community.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I'll tell you what you know. Look, it does the
review I think is a great thing and that it's
hopefully going to provide a guide now to the Northern
Territory government that they can't ignore. You know, right, we
need those police officers. We need to be responding to
crime more quickly than what we're currently able to because
we don't have enough police on the ground. But you know,
(10:42):
I suppose there's still a lot of a lot of
people feeling a bit skeptical because there has been what
feels like such a lack of action over recent years.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Definitely, and our police officers are the same kase they've
been promised this for a long time to get appropriate resourcing.
They haven't seen that, so they quotes skeptic go about
until they actually see it, and we actually see the
difference on the ground and obviously our ability to respond
to the level of crime we're seeing across the Northern Territory.
But again it's this great starting point obviously to rebuilding
the depleted Northern Territory Police force we've seen over many,
many years. And so this provides a roadmap for the
(11:12):
NTI government to obviously commit to appropriately budgetly support and
obviously implementation of the recommendation. So we're happy to work
with the government. We're happy to sit down with the
government obviously and ask those questions about the recommendations that
they don't support and work through those and find out
what their reasoning is behind it and why we need
to go obviously go forward, and how we're going to
go forward and make sure that they're our police officers
(11:32):
and our infrastructure support for our police off especially in
the remote areas, because we can announce support for our
remote areas handover heart to say we're going to have
three members at all their remote stations. We haven't got
the infrastructure support that they haven't got processes, and we've
got to make sure that we've got a plan going
forward to obviously replace our dilapidated infrastructure we've gotten remote areas,
to make sure it's an attractive place and a secure
(11:54):
place for our members to go into these remote communities.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, Nathan Finn, I always appreciate your time, mates, thank
you very much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Always appreciate your time and I appreciate obviously the work
that our men and women do in the Northern Territory
Police Force. Absolutely super proud obviously to be associated with
the Northern Churchy Police Force and now obviously the Northern
Territory Police Association. But the work they do day in,
day out is I take my hat off to them
because I definitely wouldn't be in a position I've now
to obviously support them without obviously going through that process
(12:23):
as well and making sure that they're supported and make
sure and that's my primary role.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
They are working bloody hard and now we see just
how underresourced as well. So Nathan Finn, thank you as always.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Mate, Thank you, mate, chick, thank you
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