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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is just after nine point thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we know unfortunately a terrible night last night on
our roads two female pedestrians allegedly struck in a hit
and run incident in Brinkan. Now joining me in the
studio right now is the Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Good morning to your commissioner.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good morning Katie and lovely new digs too.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh so nice of fancy and here isn't it beautiful
new studio. Thanks so much for joining us this morning. Now, unfortunately,
starting on a very sad note with this incident this morning,
two or three women actually struck by a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Two of those women dying.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a terrible situation that's unfolded by the sounds of it.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No, it absolutely is. It's tragic for the community. Our
lives lost now with fatalities stands at fifty six, incredibly high.
We're doing everything we can to do the enforcement and
education and working across other government departments to do that too,
to make sure we don't see more people die on
the roads. Last night we saw the three females struck
(01:03):
by a vehicle. They were actually sleeping on the road.
And it's the same location where we saw the fatalities
previously and brinking. So I think what they do is
mistakenly take it for a car park and they're rough sleepers,
so they're sleeping on the road instead of a car park,
and it looks like a vehicle has run over them.
There's a couple of people assisting with inquiries. But if
(01:25):
anyone has any information around, you know, anything in that
area last night it was just at one am, please
bring us on one three one, triple four or one
at one hundred, triple three, triple zero.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So they're asleep, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Actually sleep on the road or trying to get some
rest on the road and tragically run over. And we
see the representation of pedestrians in our road lives lost
and the road fatality is way too high. So it's
about you know, really avoiding some of these situations and
you know, getting people places safer places to sleep. One
(02:00):
also the contribution of the fatal five. You know, don't
drink and drive, don't take drugs and drive where your
seat belt, don't speed, make sure your car safe, rest,
don't get distracted with your mobile phone. And we see
more and more prevalence of that across our younger drivers
and cohorts, but just stay off your phone because just
a split second of inattention can cause injury or death.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Commissioner, do we have any idea at this point in
time whether that vehicle was stolen or does it appear
so it's somebody just out on the road as I
understand that police are still now on the search for
that vehicle and its occupants.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So where there was some really good police work done
quite quickly last night, the use of CCTV and some
other technology where it identified a forty year old and
an eighteen year old, We located a vehicle that was
involved in the crash. So that's a secondary crime scene
at the moment, but there's still an active investigation by
the Major Crash Unit, And just urging anyone who has
(02:56):
an information or you may observe a car image that
didn't have damage yesterday to give us a call and
if they've seen anything this unusual. Obviously it's a strange
time of the night too to be out and about,
so have anyone seen anything and where? Obviously going through
some other CCTV footage and the like, Sarur detective is
a harder work trying to resolve it for the sake
(03:18):
of the family soon.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah. Right, So that forty year old in the eighteen
year old they so, are they in police custody or
they are just helping police with inquiries at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
We've got a forty year old in male in custody
at the moment and an eighteen year old is not
in custody but helping us with inquiries. But there's many
lines of inquiries still open for us to examine.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah. Well, look, we'll keep a very close eye on
things and no doubt there'll be some further information come
to hand throughout the day now.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Commissioner, as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
A little bit earlier in the week, another recruit squad
graduation for the Northern Territory Police.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
How many recruits graduated?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, so it was a swearing in ceremony, So they'll
graduate next year. We do have a couple of graduations.
Our recruitments streams going extremely well. It's great to see
so many people want to join the Northern Churchiary Police.
We had thirty officers sworn in yesterday, which is really inspiring.
We had four previous officers sworn rejoined the ranks. Yeah,
(04:14):
I've seen that, yeah, and we're seeing that more often.
People are writing to me even if last week wanted
to come back and join the force. So it's really
nice yesterday, yeah, have rejoined the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
From where did they die just you know, other.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Jobs somewhere else and you know, and did something different
and came back and realized they missed policing and I
think you know, the call to action and come and
join the police force and aspiring to see a really
good police force doing incredible work. It's a really exciting
time for the Northern Churachi of Police to come and join,
to make a difference to keep your community safe. So
you know, we're really aggressively recruiting Territorians as forwardeen territorians
(04:51):
out of the thirty which is amazing and really diverse
skill sets from defense and consultants and it's really nice
to see nineteen to fifty nine too, So the age
parameter a really diverse group and they want to join
and make a difference and it's really inspiring.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And Commissioner one of them was actually your son.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, it's pretty exciting. What a proud and proud.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Dad moment, What a proud dad moment yeh.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And gave him a big hug. Yeah, yes, so really lovely.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think this is a really nice thing on a
few levels, Like obviously a really great thing, you know
to have a young territory in joining the police force,
and you must be so proud as a dad, but
it also sort of says to me that you as
the Northern Territory Police Commissioner and also you know, like
it says.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
That it's a force that you're you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You feel comfortable enough for your son to join and
it's something that you want your son to be part of.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Absolutely, this is a really exciting time for the Northern
Territory Police. We've transformed it significantly even in the last
couple of years, and we've got a lot of work
to do. But you know, I've got a mandate to
make sure I look after our officers, make sure they're supported.
New government, you know, the Chief Minister and the Police
Minister's made that really clear if she supports police, that's
amazingly clear, and she communicated that yesterday to the new
(06:06):
squad too. So we're in a really exciting time, a
clear mandate to reduce crime and we're doing that. Really
well in working incredibly hard. Still, you know, crime is
still too high in the rates of domestic violence obviously,
the road toll as well youth crime. So all the
new laws, a suite of laws that have been introduced
across many bills and acts are going to help transform
(06:29):
how we do policing activity as well and to reduce
crime and keep the territory safe.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well. And look some of those new law changes coming
into effect obviously really sort of this week and last week.
What work has to happen to ensure that officers, you know,
exactly what they need to do in some of these
instances with these law changes. I yesterday we saw the
first posting and boasting charges late.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, so we move pretty fast in the police force
to educate our sixteen hundred officers about law changes, and
in advance, we've got online training packages, We do emails,
you know, we walked the floors as well, like I've
been in other springs last week telling Hi about the changes.
So we see new laws about ram raids damaged property,
like people who are leaving premises and ramming through gates
(07:16):
or use a vehicle to ram into a premise to
steal property or ram police cars. So all that legislation
will hope add to general deterrence and put people before
the court so they can answer for their poor choices
and conduct posting and boasting. We've actually seen two charges
laid down on the posting and boasting. So on the
weekend we saw a nineen year old mail involved in
(07:40):
a violent assault and he glorified his acts up from
the crime scene on that conduct, so he's been charged
with the posting and boasting. And we've seen a thirteen
year old also arrested and charged around posting and boasting
after he broke in all premises in Milner and then
posted some of the stolen property in Learning a Samurai Sword.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So it's appalling and it's quite unbelievable, I think for
an everyday punter, I like myself, where you think to yourself,
someone's broken the law. They're then sharing it on social media,
and you know, previously it seemed as though they're sharing
it on social media and not getting away with the crime.
But we know the police are actually capturing them. We
(08:21):
know that the police are doing the hard work to
get them, but sharing it on social media is like
rubbing it in the victim's faces.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, Look, the advent of social media since two thousand
and four has caused enormal social issues, societal problems, and
you know, chrimeogenic problems as well. So you know, there's
been many conversations from a law enforcement perspective about the
social media platforms and the harm they contribute and how
fast they can act to deter and stop some of
(08:48):
the harmful content being broadcast on social media and it's shared,
so it is harmful to the community because it adds
to that fear of crime as well. So, but the
main thing is is the people who are committing the
crime and thinking it's okay to glorify it and post
it about their poor choices need to have accountability attached
to them and consequences.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And also though, like you just kind of think to yourself,
if they're glorifying it and they're making other younger ones
or other people think that it's a cool thing to do,
it's like, no, it's actually not. And if you're doing
it and then you're sharing it, well you're now going
to cop a harsher punishment. Do you think that we're
going to see any kind of minimization in that behavior
as a result of this law change or do you
(09:30):
hope that we do?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah? Absolutely, I think that there will always be like
an action for an outcome or an action attached to
general deterrence and consequence. What we need to do is
also engage in the education system and do those programs.
But more importantly some of the kids who aren't going
to school, and I've been talking with the CEO of
Education as well about how we can better engage kids
(09:51):
than their re engagement strategy to get them to school,
so to actually have purpose, don't make poor choices, don't
commit crime, don't end up in the you justice system,
and they can actually get an education and a job
later in life.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, well that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know, education is the key for so many young
people in relation to some of the other changes like
the ram raid offense, but also.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You know, the stronger laws.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Really if somebody assaults a police officer, like the level
of assault that we've seen towards our Northern Territory police
in recent times is quite astronomical. Even yesterday, we caught
up with one of your police officers, Senior Sergeant Dale
Water Barnard, and spoke more about the work that tried
AND's doing, but had a situation just last week where
there's vehicles trying to ram police cars.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's horrible behavior.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Do you think that we're actually going to see a
change or a potential minimizing of the level of this
violence towards police as a result of these law changes.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I definitely hope. So I think we will say when
we're holding people to a higher account, there has to
be any impact. It's totally unacceptable that people think it's
okay to target police officers. Ramming them in a vehicle,
which can cause death, is totally unacceptable. We're looking at
different resolution strategies to make sure we stop that behavior faster.
(11:15):
I mean, to go on a seventy five kilometer shoot
and trying to ram police cars is incredibly dangerous, not
just for the occupants of the stolen cars, but our
officers who are working incredibly hard. You know that I
commend Tried, and I commend Vipra and other Springs and
all our officers across the territory who do incredibly hard work.
It's totally unacceptable that our officers are assaulted. You know,
we see people getting spat at, our officers getting spat at.
(11:38):
It's too common We had an officer punched a female
officer in Peel Street on Saturday night doing her job.
You know, it was it's just, you know, luckily we're
not seeing something. It is disgusting. We had an officer
assaulted yesterday on Nightcliff Foreshore. It was hitting the head.
He required stitches marked. Yeah, I spake to him last night.
(11:59):
So just engage with a group of drinkers. They got
quite agitated and they was engaged and actually turned on
the officers and basically assaulted them. The public actually came
to assistance as well, and police reinforcements came in and
made two arrest But wow, yeah, yesterday evening. So yeah,
so it's really you know, we can't see people assault
(12:22):
the people who are enforcing the law. I mean, people
do make poor choices, and a lot of people are
affected by drugs and alcohol and they're just not in
a state to make a good choice.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But well, and it doesn't give you a right to
go and punch someone or hit someone across the head.
It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter how
old you are, it doesn't matter where you come from.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We've got to respect each.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Other as humans, especially when you're doing fundamental you know,
respect these key to societal positive behavior, and to spit
on someone who's absolutely disgraceful as well.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So you mentioned then that you spoke to the officer
last night who was assaulted.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Is that officer okay, Yeah, he's had stitches to his head,
he's going to be a bit sore, but he's really positive.
You know, he's probably impacted of course that he's been
assaulted and injured, and you know those sadly people relive
that too going through You know, if I had done
something differently, it could have been a different outcome. And
that's you know, you can't just second guess when you're
doing your job and you get assaulted as a result
(13:17):
of it. So you know, we wish him all the
best and the speed of recovery grade officers, and you know,
we just don't want to see police get assaulted.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Any arrests as a result of that incident.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Two arrests were made pretty swiftly when other attending police
turned up, and.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No doubt charges And I guess it'll be interesting to
see then what happens with these law changes.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I think that is going to be the case now
is that a lot of us are going to be
keeping a much closer on the courts to see just
how some of these law changes do sort of flow
through once cases go through the courts.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, the bail laws will come into effect. I think
they're scheduled so over and it's astended to accept the
bail laws. So Declin's law with serious and serious violence
offenses that if you commit one of those or on
bail for one of those offenses, then bail will the
prompts umption will be against that sort of scheduled for January.
So there's a lot of operational and technical things that
need to get in shape before that, and plus that
(14:07):
will put additional pressure on the correction system. So you
know that that is all. There's movements in there. There's
infrastructure getting planned because that will have an impact on
the justice system and then according to the correctional system
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And of course the watch house is still being used
at this point in time by corrections.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, we've they've still got the Darwin Watchhouse. You know,
we're working together, obviously, we have to work together to
house the prisoners that we're delivering to corrections. I think
there's still fifty prisoners in the Darwin Facility, corrections in
a whole body of work to alleviate pressure on our
watchhouses over the last couple of weeks. Catherine's pretty good
(14:46):
that's pressure has been released. Alice Springs has a minimal number,
but it sort of fluctuates in Palmerston between about sixty
and eighty per day.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, look, we'll keep an eye on things and no
doubt as as Decklan's Law does, does you know, sort
of pass through and comes into operation as well, we'll
certainly catch up with you when that happens. Northern Territory
Police Commissioner Michael Murphy really appreciate you joining us this
morning on the show Pleasure.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Thanks very much, you too,
It is just after nine point thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now we know unfortunately a terrible night last night on
our roads two female pedestrians allegedly struck in a hit
and run incident in Brinkan. Now joining me in the
studio right now is the Northern Territory Police Commissioner Michael Murphy.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Good morning to your commissioner.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good morning Katie and lovely new digs too.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Oh so nice of fancy and here isn't it beautiful
new studio. Thanks so much for joining us this morning. Now, unfortunately,
starting on a very sad note with this incident this morning,
two or three women actually struck by a vehicle.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Two of those women dying.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It's a terrible situation that's unfolded by the sounds of it.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
No, it absolutely is. It's tragic for the community. Our
lives lost now with fatalities stands at fifty six, incredibly high.
We're doing everything we can to do the enforcement and
education and working across other government departments to do that too,
to make sure we don't see more people die on
the roads. Last night we saw the three females struck
(01:03):
by a vehicle. They were actually sleeping on the road.
And it's the same location where we saw the fatalities
previously and brinking. So I think what they do is
mistakenly take it for a car park and they're rough sleepers,
so they're sleeping on the road instead of a car park,
and it looks like a vehicle has run over them.
There's a couple of people assisting with inquiries. But if
(01:25):
anyone has any information around, you know, anything in that
area last night it was just at one am, please
bring us on one three one, triple four or one
at one hundred, triple three, triple zero.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So they're asleep, Yeah, they're.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Actually sleep on the road or trying to get some
rest on the road and tragically run over. And we
see the representation of pedestrians in our road lives lost
and the road fatality is way too high. So it's
about you know, really avoiding some of these situations and
you know, getting people places safer places to sleep. One
(02:00):
also the contribution of the fatal five. You know, don't
drink and drive, don't take drugs and drive where your
seat belt, don't speed, make sure your car safe, rest,
don't get distracted with your mobile phone. And we see
more and more prevalence of that across our younger drivers
and cohorts, but just stay off your phone because just
a split second of inattention can cause injury or death.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Commissioner, do we have any idea at this point in
time whether that vehicle was stolen or does it appear
so it's somebody just out on the road as I
understand that police are still now on the search for
that vehicle and its occupants.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So where there was some really good police work done
quite quickly last night, the use of CCTV and some
other technology where it identified a forty year old and
an eighteen year old, We located a vehicle that was
involved in the crash. So that's a secondary crime scene
at the moment, but there's still an active investigation by
the Major Crash Unit, And just urging anyone who has
(02:56):
an information or you may observe a car image that
didn't have damage yesterday to give us a call and
if they've seen anything this unusual. Obviously it's a strange
time of the night too to be out and about,
so have anyone seen anything and where? Obviously going through
some other CCTV footage and the like, Sarur detective is
a harder work trying to resolve it for the sake
(03:18):
of the family soon.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah. Right, So that forty year old in the eighteen
year old they so, are they in police custody or
they are just helping police with inquiries at the moment.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
We've got a forty year old in male in custody
at the moment and an eighteen year old is not
in custody but helping us with inquiries. But there's many
lines of inquiries still open for us to examine.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah. Well, look, we'll keep a very close eye on
things and no doubt there'll be some further information come
to hand throughout the day now.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Commissioner, as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
A little bit earlier in the week, another recruit squad
graduation for the Northern Territory Police.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
How many recruits graduated?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, so it was a swearing in ceremony, So they'll
graduate next year. We do have a couple of graduations.
Our recruitments streams going extremely well. It's great to see
so many people want to join the Northern Churchiary Police.
We had thirty officers sworn in yesterday, which is really inspiring.
We had four previous officers sworn rejoined the ranks. Yeah,
(04:14):
I've seen that, yeah, and we're seeing that more often.
People are writing to me even if last week wanted
to come back and join the force. So it's really
nice yesterday, yeah, have rejoined the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
From where did they die just you know, other.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Jobs somewhere else and you know, and did something different
and came back and realized they missed policing and I
think you know, the call to action and come and
join the police force and aspiring to see a really
good police force doing incredible work. It's a really exciting
time for the Northern Churachi of Police to come and join,
to make a difference to keep your community safe. So
you know, we're really aggressively recruiting Territorians as forwardeen territorians
(04:51):
out of the thirty which is amazing and really diverse
skill sets from defense and consultants and it's really nice
to see nineteen to fifty nine too, So the age
parameter a really diverse group and they want to join
and make a difference and it's really inspiring.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
And Commissioner one of them was actually your son.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, it's pretty exciting. What a proud and proud.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Dad moment, What a proud dad moment yeh.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And gave him a big hug. Yeah, yes, so really lovely.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I think this is a really nice thing on a
few levels, Like obviously a really great thing, you know
to have a young territory in joining the police force,
and you must be so proud as a dad, but
it also sort of says to me that you as
the Northern Territory Police Commissioner and also you know, like
it says.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
That it's a force that you're you know that.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
You feel comfortable enough for your son to join and
it's something that you want your son to be part of.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Absolutely, this is a really exciting time for the Northern
Territory Police. We've transformed it significantly even in the last
couple of years, and we've got a lot of work
to do. But you know, I've got a mandate to
make sure I look after our officers, make sure they're supported.
New government, you know, the Chief Minister and the Police
Minister's made that really clear if she supports police, that's
amazingly clear, and she communicated that yesterday to the new
(06:06):
squad too. So we're in a really exciting time, a
clear mandate to reduce crime and we're doing that. Really
well in working incredibly hard. Still, you know, crime is
still too high in the rates of domestic violence obviously,
the road toll as well youth crime. So all the
new laws, a suite of laws that have been introduced
across many bills and acts are going to help transform
(06:29):
how we do policing activity as well and to reduce
crime and keep the territory safe.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Well. And look some of those new law changes coming
into effect obviously really sort of this week and last week.
What work has to happen to ensure that officers, you know,
exactly what they need to do in some of these
instances with these law changes. I yesterday we saw the
first posting and boasting charges late.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, so we move pretty fast in the police force
to educate our sixteen hundred officers about law changes, and
in advance, we've got online training packages, We do emails,
you know, we walked the floors as well, like I've
been in other springs last week telling Hi about the changes.
So we see new laws about ram raids damaged property,
like people who are leaving premises and ramming through gates
(07:16):
or use a vehicle to ram into a premise to
steal property or ram police cars. So all that legislation
will hope add to general deterrence and put people before
the court so they can answer for their poor choices
and conduct posting and boasting. We've actually seen two charges
laid down on the posting and boasting. So on the
weekend we saw a nineen year old mail involved in
(07:40):
a violent assault and he glorified his acts up from
the crime scene on that conduct, so he's been charged
with the posting and boasting. And we've seen a thirteen
year old also arrested and charged around posting and boasting
after he broke in all premises in Milner and then
posted some of the stolen property in Learning a Samurai Sword.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So it's appalling and it's quite unbelievable, I think for
an everyday punter, I like myself, where you think to yourself,
someone's broken the law. They're then sharing it on social media,
and you know, previously it seemed as though they're sharing
it on social media and not getting away with the crime.
But we know the police are actually capturing them. We
(08:21):
know that the police are doing the hard work to
get them, but sharing it on social media is like
rubbing it in the victim's faces.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, Look, the advent of social media since two thousand
and four has caused enormal social issues, societal problems, and
you know, chrimeogenic problems as well. So you know, there's
been many conversations from a law enforcement perspective about the
social media platforms and the harm they contribute and how
fast they can act to deter and stop some of
(08:48):
the harmful content being broadcast on social media and it's shared,
so it is harmful to the community because it adds
to that fear of crime as well. So, but the
main thing is is the people who are committing the
crime and thinking it's okay to glorify it and post
it about their poor choices need to have accountability attached
to them and consequences.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And also though, like you just kind of think to yourself,
if they're glorifying it and they're making other younger ones
or other people think that it's a cool thing to do,
it's like, no, it's actually not. And if you're doing
it and then you're sharing it, well you're now going
to cop a harsher punishment. Do you think that we're
going to see any kind of minimization in that behavior
as a result of this law change or do you
(09:30):
hope that we do?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah? Absolutely, I think that there will always be like
an action for an outcome or an action attached to
general deterrence and consequence. What we need to do is
also engage in the education system and do those programs.
But more importantly some of the kids who aren't going
to school, and I've been talking with the CEO of
Education as well about how we can better engage kids
(09:51):
than their re engagement strategy to get them to school,
so to actually have purpose, don't make poor choices, don't
commit crime, don't end up in the you justice system,
and they can actually get an education and a job
later in life.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Yeah, well that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know, education is the key for so many young
people in relation to some of the other changes like
the ram raid offense, but also.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You know, the stronger laws.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Really if somebody assaults a police officer, like the level
of assault that we've seen towards our Northern Territory police
in recent times is quite astronomical. Even yesterday, we caught
up with one of your police officers, Senior Sergeant Dale
Water Barnard, and spoke more about the work that tried
AND's doing, but had a situation just last week where
there's vehicles trying to ram police cars.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's horrible behavior.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Do you think that we're actually going to see a
change or a potential minimizing of the level of this
violence towards police as a result of these law changes.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I definitely hope. So I think we will say when
we're holding people to a higher account, there has to
be any impact. It's totally unacceptable that people think it's
okay to target police officers. Ramming them in a vehicle,
which can cause death, is totally unacceptable. We're looking at
different resolution strategies to make sure we stop that behavior faster.
(11:15):
I mean, to go on a seventy five kilometer shoot
and trying to ram police cars is incredibly dangerous, not
just for the occupants of the stolen cars, but our
officers who are working incredibly hard. You know that I
commend Tried, and I commend Vipra and other Springs and
all our officers across the territory who do incredibly hard work.
It's totally unacceptable that our officers are assaulted. You know,
we see people getting spat at, our officers getting spat at.
(11:38):
It's too common We had an officer punched a female
officer in Peel Street on Saturday night doing her job.
You know, it was it's just, you know, luckily we're
not seeing something. It is disgusting. We had an officer
assaulted yesterday on Nightcliff Foreshore. It was hitting the head.
He required stitches marked. Yeah, I spake to him last night.
(11:59):
So just engage with a group of drinkers. They got
quite agitated and they was engaged and actually turned on
the officers and basically assaulted them. The public actually came
to assistance as well, and police reinforcements came in and
made two arrest But wow, yeah, yesterday evening. So yeah,
so it's really you know, we can't see people assault
(12:22):
the people who are enforcing the law. I mean, people
do make poor choices, and a lot of people are
affected by drugs and alcohol and they're just not in
a state to make a good choice.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
But well, and it doesn't give you a right to
go and punch someone or hit someone across the head.
It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter how
old you are, it doesn't matter where you come from.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We've got to respect each.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Other as humans, especially when you're doing fundamental you know,
respect these key to societal positive behavior, and to spit
on someone who's absolutely disgraceful as well.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So you mentioned then that you spoke to the officer
last night who was assaulted.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Is that officer okay, Yeah, he's had stitches to his head,
he's going to be a bit sore, but he's really positive.
You know, he's probably impacted of course that he's been
assaulted and injured, and you know those sadly people relive
that too going through You know, if I had done
something differently, it could have been a different outcome. And
that's you know, you can't just second guess when you're
doing your job and you get assaulted as a result
(13:17):
of it. So you know, we wish him all the
best and the speed of recovery grade officers, and you know,
we just don't want to see police get assaulted.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Any arrests as a result of that incident.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Two arrests were made pretty swiftly when other attending police
turned up, and.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No doubt charges And I guess it'll be interesting to
see then what happens with these law changes.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Absolutely, yeah, yeah, and.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
I think that is going to be the case now
is that a lot of us are going to be
keeping a much closer on the courts to see just
how some of these law changes do sort of flow
through once cases go through the courts.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, the bail laws will come into effect. I think
they're scheduled so over and it's astended to accept the
bail laws. So Declin's law with serious and serious violence
offenses that if you commit one of those or on
bail for one of those offenses, then bail will the
prompts umption will be against that sort of scheduled for January.
So there's a lot of operational and technical things that
need to get in shape before that, and plus that
(14:07):
will put additional pressure on the correction system. So you
know that that is all. There's movements in there. There's
infrastructure getting planned because that will have an impact on
the justice system and then according to the correctional system
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
And of course the watch house is still being used
at this point in time by corrections.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, we've they've still got the Darwin Watchhouse. You know,
we're working together, obviously, we have to work together to
house the prisoners that we're delivering to corrections. I think
there's still fifty prisoners in the Darwin Facility, corrections in
a whole body of work to alleviate pressure on our
watchhouses over the last couple of weeks. Catherine's pretty good
(14:46):
that's pressure has been released. Alice Springs has a minimal number,
but it sort of fluctuates in Palmerston between about sixty
and eighty per day.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, look, we'll keep an eye on things and no
doubt as as Decklan's Law does, does you know, sort
of pass through and comes into operation as well, we'll
certainly catch up with you when that happens. Northern Territory
Police Commissioner Michael Murphy really appreciate you joining us this
morning on the show Pleasure.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Thanks very much, you too,
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