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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now. The government this week announced more than two hundred
(00:02):
and thirty one million dollars in homelessness grants to frontline
and support services across the Northern Territory. When making the announcement,
Minister for Children and Families Rob and Carl said the
two hundred and thirty one point three to two million
dollar investment over four years would support seventy five programs
delivered by over twenty organizations, including crisis and transitional accommodation,
(00:27):
tenancy support, day centers, outreach and New Territory wide Intake
Service as well to help people to get the right
support sooner. Now joining us in the studio is a
Salvation Army State Manager of Alcohol and Other Drugs and Homelessness,
Andrea KK. Good morning to you. Andrea, good morning. It
(00:49):
is lovely to have you in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Having me now.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Andrea, can you tell our listeners a little bit more
about the services that are provided by the Salvation Army
when it comes to homelessness.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So we provide a wide range of services across the territory.
We're located in Darwin, Catherine and Alice Springs. Some of
the services that we provide are crisis accommodation. So we
have two crisis accommodation one here in the CBD on
Mitchell Street, another one out in Bearma in Sunrise we
operate Hubs and Catherine as well. That's supporting people with meals,
(01:20):
showers in that type of nature. We have transitional accommodation
helping people for usually up to an eighteen month period.
As well as we do as sort of outreach targeting
people who may be sleeping rough on the streets and
trying to find them, you know, proper accommodation, maybe getting
them IDs, anything to help them get them off the streets.
So that's just a small snapshot of the services that
(01:41):
we operate across the town and it's extensive.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know, the work that the Salvation Army does is
so extensive. Can you tell me a little bit about
the funding that the Salvos are receiving that was announced
a little bit earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, So we are very pleased with the funding that
has come through with it. This funding has not only
allowed us to continue some of the services that we
currently operate for So for example, we operate on Alice
Springs Men's program, which is a transitional housing program it's
twenty four units in Alice Springs. It's also allowed us
to expand some of our current services. So, for example,
(02:15):
are sort of outreach which we call street to homes
that used to be staffed by one staff member. Now
we're increasing to four, and now we're targeting both adult
and youth in that a sort of outreach, so we're
wadening our scope in that area. And then there's new
services that we're really really excited about. So for example,
as people know we operate a hub in Catherine, we're
now duplicating that model and we're opening up a hub
(02:35):
in Alice Springs. Many people know it as the Waterhole,
so now we're expanding the Waterhole to not only just
provide the meals, but the case management support and giving
that wrap around service. As well as the crisis accommodation
on Mitchell Street, House forty nine that actually used to
be operated by fundraising dollars for many, many years, and
(02:56):
this is the first time that we're actually getting it
funded through the government, so that provides stability for that accommodations.
That's an eighteen bad crisis ac commodation. So those are
some of the exciting things that we are really happy
about that the government is moving forward with us.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And when you talk about that funding, now that's stable
funding and the fact that you used to rely on
the fund raising to be able to operate that facility.
What's that now going to mean when it comes to
your fundraising and being able to you know, to do
more with that dollar in terms of what you actually
raise for yourselves.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, so now we can you know, pivot that fundraising
dollars to other initiatives that we may want to be
focusing on. Maybe there's other types of services that we
would want to that maybe didn't fit in the fit
in the realm of that homelessness grant that we can
even expanded it. So it's allowed us to give us
a lot more options and be able to expand our reach.
So we're very very happy that we're able to shift
those fundraising dollars and look at other initiatives that we
(03:48):
can support the community with.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And Andrea, when I mean when you look at the
work that the Salvation Army does and you look at
some of those transitional programs, you look at the ways
in which you you support people that have you know,
that need to get into housing, Like how successful are
the programs that the Salvos you know, get underway.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, they're very successful. You know, we look at for example,
if we look at our transitional housing programs and we
run a couple across the territory. A lot of that
goal of that is that we work with someone over
that eighteenth month period so that they're tenant ready and
they know how to not only when they get that
stable accommodation, that they know how to maintain it, because
that's the most important thing. It's not so much getting
(04:31):
the person in that permanent housing, but making sure that
they have the tools and skill sets to maintain it
as well. So we work with those people over in
eight months eighteen month period and then the goal is
often a lot of them are on the public housing
wait lists and then they can get transferred right into
a permanent home into the public housing. So there's definitely
a lot of success in that space.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Now in terms of the you know, quantifying I guess
the number of people that come through the Salvos or
giving us a bit of context like how many people,
well do you think you are supporting or you know,
talk us through some of the numbers.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, it's really interesting. We sit there and like we're
supporting a lot, and then it kind of it's a
bit sad because you don't want to be supporting a
lot because you know, you want to see people being
in a better place. But for example, in our hubs
and Catherine, we serve meals to easily about one hundred
and fifty people a day that are accessing our hubs
and sometimes it can be a little bit more, maybe
(05:26):
a little bits, but easily one hundred and fifty In there,
our beds and the crisis accommodation, so I said, we
have the eighteen bed and we have another thirty bed
out in bearma They are constantly full, always full. So
you know, it's great that we're here to be supporting
the community and providing solutions and stuff like that. But obviously,
in a perfect world, I would love to see the
numbers be lower because that means that we provided a
(05:49):
permanent solution for people who maybe sleeping rough and in terms.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Of the work as well that the Salvation Army does
when it comes to alcohol and other drugs, talk us
through some of that support work.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, So we operate Sunrise out and bear MAUD and
we have actually both the crisis accommodation and the AOD
rehab on the same site. So it's twenty five beds
for the drug and alcohol and thirty beds for the
crisis accommodation, and so sometimes they kind of flow back
and forth, which is a good thing in that type
of sense. So sometimes some when we access the crisis
(06:20):
accommodation recognize that they may need that additional support. They
feel the safety, the support, and the welcome of Sunrise,
and then they'll go and talk to their case managers
that I actually think I want to go and get
some you know, rehab support right there, and that's an
easy transfer over to getting that twelve week program.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well and you know, getting people, getting people clean, I guess,
getting them all alcohol or you know, helping them to
sort of to get away from some of those things.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, it's about finding out what their journey is. Some
people may be focusing on one thing that some people
may be looking at abstiness, some people may be looking
at harm reduction. So it's feeding the needs of what
that actual person wants and walking along them with that
journey and supporting them.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
How big an impact do these services have a massive impact?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean, the fact that our bads and transitional housing
programs and our hubs are constantly full. That echoes rate
there of how much a need for these services are.
And we're really grateful that the government has boosted the
funding for this because in this we now see new
community service providers that are being in the safe We
see it increase in services that are going to provide.
(07:26):
There's been an increase in Aboriginal controlled organizations that have
been so across the board, it's very well needed.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, Andrea, it's great to speak to you this morning
and get a better understanding really of what that funding's
going to mean for an organization like the Salvation Army
and you know, and to hear a little bit more
about the work that you guys do. So I really
appreciate you joining me in the studio this morning.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Thank you so much.
Now. The government this week announced more than two hundred
(00:02):
and thirty one million dollars in homelessness grants to frontline
and support services across the Northern Territory. When making the announcement,
Minister for Children and Families Rob and Carl said the
two hundred and thirty one point three to two million
dollar investment over four years would support seventy five programs
delivered by over twenty organizations, including crisis and transitional accommodation,
(00:27):
tenancy support, day centers, outreach and New Territory wide Intake
Service as well to help people to get the right
support sooner. Now joining us in the studio is a
Salvation Army State Manager of Alcohol and Other Drugs and Homelessness,
Andrea KK. Good morning to you. Andrea, good morning. It
(00:49):
is lovely to have you in the studio.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Having me now.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Andrea, can you tell our listeners a little bit more
about the services that are provided by the Salvation Army
when it comes to homelessness.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
So we provide a wide range of services across the territory.
We're located in Darwin, Catherine and Alice Springs. Some of
the services that we provide are crisis accommodation. So we
have two crisis accommodation one here in the CBD on
Mitchell Street, another one out in Bearma in Sunrise we
operate Hubs and Catherine as well. That's supporting people with meals,
(01:20):
showers in that type of nature. We have transitional accommodation
helping people for usually up to an eighteen month period.
As well as we do as sort of outreach targeting
people who may be sleeping rough on the streets and
trying to find them, you know, proper accommodation, maybe getting
them IDs, anything to help them get them off the streets.
So that's just a small snapshot of the services that
(01:41):
we operate across the town and it's extensive.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
You know, the work that the Salvation Army does is
so extensive. Can you tell me a little bit about
the funding that the Salvos are receiving that was announced
a little bit earlier this week.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, So we are very pleased with the funding that
has come through with it. This funding has not only
allowed us to continue some of the services that we
currently operate for So for example, we operate on Alice
Springs Men's program, which is a transitional housing program it's
twenty four units in Alice Springs. It's also allowed us
to expand some of our current services. So, for example,
(02:15):
are sort of outreach which we call street to homes
that used to be staffed by one staff member. Now
we're increasing to four, and now we're targeting both adult
and youth in that a sort of outreach, so we're
wadening our scope in that area. And then there's new
services that we're really really excited about. So for example,
as people know we operate a hub in Catherine, we're
now duplicating that model and we're opening up a hub
(02:35):
in Alice Springs. Many people know it as the Waterhole,
so now we're expanding the Waterhole to not only just
provide the meals, but the case management support and giving
that wrap around service. As well as the crisis accommodation
on Mitchell Street, House forty nine that actually used to
be operated by fundraising dollars for many, many years, and
(02:56):
this is the first time that we're actually getting it
funded through the government, so that provides stability for that accommodations.
That's an eighteen bad crisis ac commodation. So those are
some of the exciting things that we are really happy
about that the government is moving forward with us.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And when you talk about that funding, now that's stable
funding and the fact that you used to rely on
the fund raising to be able to operate that facility.
What's that now going to mean when it comes to
your fundraising and being able to you know, to do
more with that dollar in terms of what you actually
raise for yourselves.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, so now we can you know, pivot that fundraising
dollars to other initiatives that we may want to be
focusing on. Maybe there's other types of services that we
would want to that maybe didn't fit in the fit
in the realm of that homelessness grant that we can
even expanded it. So it's allowed us to give us
a lot more options and be able to expand our reach.
So we're very very happy that we're able to shift
those fundraising dollars and look at other initiatives that we
(03:48):
can support the community with.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
And Andrea, when I mean when you look at the
work that the Salvation Army does and you look at
some of those transitional programs, you look at the ways
in which you you support people that have you know,
that need to get into housing, Like how successful are
the programs that the Salvos you know, get underway.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, they're very successful. You know, we look at for example,
if we look at our transitional housing programs and we
run a couple across the territory. A lot of that
goal of that is that we work with someone over
that eighteenth month period so that they're tenant ready and
they know how to not only when they get that
stable accommodation, that they know how to maintain it, because
that's the most important thing. It's not so much getting
(04:31):
the person in that permanent housing, but making sure that
they have the tools and skill sets to maintain it
as well. So we work with those people over in
eight months eighteen month period and then the goal is
often a lot of them are on the public housing
wait lists and then they can get transferred right into
a permanent home into the public housing. So there's definitely
a lot of success in that space.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Now in terms of the you know, quantifying I guess
the number of people that come through the Salvos or
giving us a bit of context like how many people,
well do you think you are supporting or you know,
talk us through some of the numbers.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, it's really interesting. We sit there and like we're
supporting a lot, and then it kind of it's a
bit sad because you don't want to be supporting a
lot because you know, you want to see people being
in a better place. But for example, in our hubs
and Catherine, we serve meals to easily about one hundred
and fifty people a day that are accessing our hubs
and sometimes it can be a little bit more, maybe
(05:26):
a little bits, but easily one hundred and fifty In there,
our beds and the crisis accommodation, so I said, we
have the eighteen bed and we have another thirty bed
out in bearma They are constantly full, always full. So
you know, it's great that we're here to be supporting
the community and providing solutions and stuff like that. But obviously,
in a perfect world, I would love to see the
numbers be lower because that means that we provided a
(05:49):
permanent solution for people who maybe sleeping rough and in terms.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Of the work as well that the Salvation Army does
when it comes to alcohol and other drugs, talk us
through some of that support work.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, So we operate Sunrise out and bear MAUD and
we have actually both the crisis accommodation and the AOD
rehab on the same site. So it's twenty five beds
for the drug and alcohol and thirty beds for the
crisis accommodation, and so sometimes they kind of flow back
and forth, which is a good thing in that type
of sense. So sometimes some when we access the crisis
(06:20):
accommodation recognize that they may need that additional support. They
feel the safety, the support, and the welcome of Sunrise,
and then they'll go and talk to their case managers
that I actually think I want to go and get
some you know, rehab support right there, and that's an
easy transfer over to getting that twelve week program.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Well and you know, getting people, getting people clean, I guess,
getting them all alcohol or you know, helping them to
sort of to get away from some of those things.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, it's about finding out what their journey is. Some
people may be focusing on one thing that some people
may be looking at abstiness, some people may be looking
at harm reduction. So it's feeding the needs of what
that actual person wants and walking along them with that
journey and supporting them.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
How big an impact do these services have a massive impact?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean, the fact that our bads and transitional housing
programs and our hubs are constantly full. That echoes rate
there of how much a need for these services are.
And we're really grateful that the government has boosted the
funding for this because in this we now see new
community service providers that are being in the safe We
see it increase in services that are going to provide.
(07:26):
There's been an increase in Aboriginal controlled organizations that have
been so across the board, it's very well needed.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Well, Andrea, it's great to speak to you this morning
and get a better understanding really of what that funding's
going to mean for an organization like the Salvation Army
and you know, and to hear a little bit more
about the work that you guys do. So I really
appreciate you joining me in the studio this morning.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Thank you so much.
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