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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, we're finally here the last push until election day.
Anthony alban Easy and Peter Dutton are flying around the
country madly ahead of the May three vote. It looks
like Labour's going to win based off all the polling
we're seeing. All the major polls are putting the two
party preferred around fifty two fifty three percent for Labor
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forty seven forty eight percent for the Coalition. But as
we know from the twenty nineteen election, anything can happen.
Back in twenty nineteen, the book he's paid out early
for Bill Shorten and he's lost in what was known
as Scott Morrison's miracle election. I have always believed in miracles.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Nothing more than I could have done. This is the
Snapshot podcast. My name is Josh Martin.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm a political reporter for seven News in Parliament House
in Canberra. We've gone through all the first four weeks
of the campaign. Let's take look now at the fifth
and final week, the key week before polling day.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I'm here to welcome everybody to my father's country.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Our restraint's better off now than they were before you
were elected.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
The right answer that that is, if you can cast
your mind back to Anzac Day, the twenty fifth of April.
It was a pause in campaigning. Both leaders wanted to
commemorate Anzac Day. It wasn't a day for politicking. The
Prime Minister was in Canberra at the Australian War Memorial
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last year he was on the Kakoda Track. This year
he went back to what he normally does. He likes
attending the Canberra Dawn Service and he was joined by
twenty five thousand people.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
We feel them still near us in spirit. We wish
to be worthy of their great sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
For that solemn remembrance.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It's one hundred and ten years since the ANZACs the
Australian and New Zealand troops stormed the beach at Gallipoli
and we remembered them this year and the Prime Minister
was there. Barnaby Joyce was there from the Coalition. Meanwhile,
Peter Dutton was up in his electorate in Kalanga, in
the electorate of Dixon. He went to the dawn service there.
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He also went up to Townsville and joined Herbert MP
Phil Thompson at the RSL in Townsall where they played
a bit of two up.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
There were chants for Peter Dutton to do a showy
but he didn't do that, and there was also controversy.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
On Anzac Day, we saw booing of the Welcome to
Country at the dawn service in Melbourne and that ended
up becoming a big political issue. Everyone condemned the group
who did the booing was a neo Nazi in that
group and they were condemned. But it sparked why to
debate about welcome to country and where whether it should
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be performed. Peter Dutton says welcome to Country should be
reserved for things like the opening of Parliament, big events,
but not even the dawn service. Anthony Albanez He says
it's up to people organizing events. He's more pro the
welcome to country.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Mister Dutton as Prime Minister, we know you won't stand
in front of the indigenous flag. Will you have welcome
to country ceremonies where you have smoking ceremonies? Will you
acknowledge the traditional owners at your official events?
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Well, the point I've made in relation to the flag
is that I don't believe that we can be the
best country we can be if we're asking people to
identify under different flags. No other country comparable to ours
does that. I want to unite our country. I want
every Australian to be equal. If you've got sixty five
thousand years of heritage in this country or you came
here six days ago as an Australian citizen, we are
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all equal. And that's the point that I make. You
can have respect as I do for the Indigenous flag
and the Torres Straight Island the flag. But I want
our country to be one and I think that's the
best chance of exist. That is the in relation to
the Welcome to Country. First point I'd make in relation
to Anzac Day is that that is our most sacred
day of the year and it is a time to
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respect diggers and it's not a time for building any
part of that ceremony we all agree on in in
relation to the Welcome to Country. Otherwise, I think there
is and people have said this to me as we
moved across the country, there is a sense across the
community that's overdone.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
On Saturday, the twenty sixth of April, Anthony Alberonizi was
in Melbourne announcing funding for language schools. He says he
regards Australia as a multicultural success story.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I regard Australia as being a microcosm for the world.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Peter Dutton was up in the top end in Darwin
and he also went over to Cans of Key seat
their lie Hard and he was talking about crime and housing,
their two key issues. Crime is often associated with state elections,
but Peter Dutton's announced a seven hundred and fifty million
dollar crime package and has tried to make it a
federal issue. He was also announcing funding for housing. He's
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trying to cling onto the seat of leich Art now
popular local member Warren Ench is retiring and local candidate
Jeremy Neil is running for the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
He's tweeted and said some.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Controversial things in the past and has come under fire
for those posts which were about women and also about COVID.
Anthony Alberanezi made out that he doesn't have the support
of Warren Anch, who he is replacing, but Warren Nch
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told seven years that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What a load of bullshit.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I would love to see candidate follow on from me.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
On Sunday, the twenty seventh of April, both parties held
rallies on Sundays throughout this camp and in previous campaigns.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
It's often seen as a.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Good day to hold rally people on their weekends they're
not at work. Peter Dutton, though, took everyone by surprise
by where he held his rally. He went to the
western suburbs of Melbourne in the electorate of Hawk.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
If I fall off the stage, I won't lie about it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Typically labor heartland, labor through and through. But with Peter
Dutton's strategy to target the outer suburbs, to target tradees,
to make announcements like his twenty five cent cut to
the fuel tax, these seats are now seen as in play.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
For the Coalition.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
They're moving away from their inner city bases where they've
typically been in the past what we're known as blue
riven seats, and are now challenging for these outer suburban
what were typically labor seats.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Is anyone feeling that you're better off today than you
were three years ago?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Does anybody believe that our country.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Is better off today that we were three years Are
we safer as a community today? We are in the
fight of our lives over the course of the next
six days. I have no doubt in my mind that
we can win this election.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Meanwhile, Anthony Albanesi was up in Sydney in the western
part of Sydney at.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Paramatta, also holding a rally.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Paramatta as a key seat that Labour wants to hold onto.
They have high profile candidate there. Andrew Charlton was an economist.
He worked in the Kevin Rudd government and the Liberal
Party are going after Paramatter. It's one of those seats
that tends to change hands when government changes, so it's
an important seat. The Prime Minister made a two hundred
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million dollar announcement for Medicare Tellyhealth. He wants to establish
an advice hotline.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
A twenty four to seven health advice line and after
ours GP telehealth service backed by Medicare.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Later that night was the final debate of this electe action,
the fourth and final debate. The final Showdown, hosted by
seven news our political editor Mark Riley and Sunrise host
Nap Bar put Anthony Albanisi and Peter Dutton through their
paces and both stumbled on a number of issues. Peter
Dutton put on the spot about the price of twelve eggs,
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couldn't name that. He said it was about half the price.
He said a carton of twelve eggs would be about
four dollars. It's actually more than eight dollars. So a
bit of a controversy there, because he's been campaigning so
hard on the cost of living crisis. To be seen
as not knowing the basic cost of some supermarket items,
maybe a lot of voters thought he was out of
touch for that.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Here is a dozen X mister Dutton, do you know
how much they cost?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
About four dollars twenty?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
No, he won't get half it, does it?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Mister seven dollars if you can find them, because it's
hard to find them at the moment. It's they's sunny coying.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Twelve eggs from Woolies.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
They eight dollars eighty from Colsy, slightly cheaper at about
eight dollar fifty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Anthony Albanezi also stumbled, though he was asked if he
had Donald Trump's phone number. I think claims Donald Trump
might not not even have a mobile phone, which was
a bizarre claim when you think about it, because Donald
Trump is famous for firing off late night tweets. He
now mostly posts on true social but he's well known
for having a phone, so that was also a blunder
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by Anthony Alberanzi.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I'm not sure that he has a mobile phone the
US President.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
On Monday, the twenty eighth of April, the final week
really getting into gear.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
But Peter Dunton's bus wasn't getting into gear.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
It was stuck in the middle of Sydney. Quite comical
and a bit of a metaphor for his campaign. He
was behind in the polls and made a number of
policy backflips. He'd lost the debate the night before Anthony
Albanzi was judged to have won, and his bus wouldn't start.
It took the press gallery cameraman to push that bus
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to get it going.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
As I mentioned earlier, welcome to countries.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Had come up as an election issue. Peter Dutton on
the Monday said he didn't think they should be performed
at dawn services. He said he'd spoken to a number
of veterans and he believed it was the majority view
of veterans that they shouldn't have welcomed to countries performed
at Anzac Day dawn services. The point that some veterans
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are making is that they've died for Australia, They've given
their blood for Australia, so why should they be welcome
to their own country. Obviously, Indigenous elders and other Australians
see it as a mark of respect. They see it
as a traditional service that has happened for a number
of years and it is a symbol of Indigenous Australians
welcoming people to their part of Australia.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
I think a lot of Australians think it's overdone and
it cheapens the significance.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Anthony ob An Easy to this point of the campaign
hadn't been pressing the flesh and meeting a lot of people.
He'd been doing stage managed performances. But on the Monday
he went out to Cambramatta in Sydney Southwest, to the
key seat of Valor. He's trying to win it back
for labor Off Die Lee, who was a popular Independent
and former counselor, and he was pounding the pavement. The
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Prime Minister was with his candidate to Lee. It was
around lunchtime. There was lots of people out and about
getting selfie saying hi. So it was quite a good
moment for the Prime Minister. But his candidate to Lee
is under a bit.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Of a cloud.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
She's been referred to the National Anti Corruption Commission over
an allegation that during a grand process. She didn't declare
a conflict of interest the fact she was working for
the former MP Chris Hayes and was also running a
charity and didn't declare that when her charity was successful
for a grant. But the Prime Minister is sticking with
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too Lee. He says she's a cracker candidate.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And he also got some.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Good news on the Monday, the News poll came out
fifty two percent for Labor, forty eight percent the coalition.
A lot of the polls have been pointing towards an
Albanesi government, minority government or majority government win on May three,
but anything could happen.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I've taken control of the double click. It's not going
to work if you did.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Just waitn On Tuesday, the twenty ninth of April, Anthony
Alberanzi was up campaigning in Brisbane and he was under
fire for questions over how much the government is spending,
how much it's announced in election promises. And there was
a report from Standard and Pause, the credit rating agency,
that Australia's triple A credit rating could be at risk.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Why is that important?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Well, if the credit rating goes down from say Triple
A to double A, it means that the Australian government
and the Australian people have to pay more interest on
money that we're borrowing. Anthony Albanisi and Jim Charmers, the Treasurer,
defended the government spending. Peter Dutton attacked them.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
There would be no reason to lose the Triple A
if Labor is re elected. We've got a good record
of responsible economic management. Its chalk and cheeses. A Liberal
Colorsip government will always manage the budget more effectively.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
One of the things that we have done is put
our costings out there. The other side haven't.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
The Liberal leader, Peter Dutton was in Gilmour on the
New South Wales South Coast, in that critical key seat.
It's the most marginal seat for Labor in the country
and he was there announcing money for a junior rugby
league club to upgrade their fields in their pavilion when
some nuclear protesters upstaged the whole event. The kids from
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the football club were annoyed, the volunteers, the coaches were
annoyed and the press conference had to be postponed. The
nuclear protesters caught a lot of media attention.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
I got a likely lie. Do you reckon I'd notice
if I turned up with that haircut tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
On Wednesday, the thirtieth of April, the Prime Minister went
to Canberra for a traditional.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Press Club speech.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It's often been the case at the Prime Minister and
oppositionally to do a speech to the press club to
the Canberra media in the last week of campaign. It's
something Anthony Albanez he.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Wants to do.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
But it wasn't something that Scott Morrison did last campaign
in twenty twenty two, and Peter Dutton didn't rock up
this week. The Prime Minister had to go with Peter
Dutton for not attending the press Club. Political editor Mark
Riley asked the Prime Minister if people are better off
under his government. It's a key line that Peter Dutton
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has been running, and the Prime Minister said he sort
of dodged the question and said that people would have
been worse off had Peter Dutton and the Coalition been
in power.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Our restraint's better off now than they were before you're elected.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
The right, so that is, and that is that Austrains
would be seven two hundred dollars worse off if Peter
Dutton had got his way.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Peter Dutton was in Melbourne, not at the Press club.
He was down in the suburbs in the seat of
Aston at a bakery. This is a seat that's widely
tipped to go back to the Liberal Party. The Liberal
Party lost it during a by election during the last
campaign and Peter Dutton was running a bit of a
scare campaign on the Voice.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
He's been the target of a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Of scare campaigns from the Labor Party this election on
many care, on the cost of nuclear and Peter Dutton,
I think thought it's my time to hit back.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Penny Wong, the Foreign Minister, had gone on.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
A podcast with the b Tudor Advocate and had said
that people will look back on the Voice like we
look back on the marriage equality Plebi side.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
In ten years we'll say what was that all about?
Why we were arguing.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
It'll be a bit like marriage equality, don't you reckon
media organized around the country under a Labor Green's government.
We see the secret plan to legislate the Voice and
Penny Wong's let that cat out of the bag.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
That's not what the Foreign Minister said at all. And
she's right here, so probably not a great idea to her.
With Penny one while she's sitting there.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
The Liberal Party verbal Penny Wong saying she was saying
that the Voice is going to be legislated or done
in another way, and Peter Dutton really played off that,
saying that he believed that Labor has plans to bring
the Voice back to do an Indigenous voice to Parliament,
maybe through legislation rather than a referendum, and said that
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that would happen under a Labor Green's government. That's a
scare campaign he's running. Both sides have run scare campaigns.
You'd have to say Labors have probably been more effective
on the cost of nuclear on the fact that they're
questioning whether Pitt and Dutton will still pay for medicare.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Are you better off today than you were when mister
Albanezy first elected.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
On the first of May, the Thursday, only two days
to go. Anthony Albanesi was over in Perth. He was
mobbed by a heap of school children in the electric
of Tagny, but he came under fire while doing some
commercial radio interviews. Commercial radio interviews are normally seen is
pretty soft. It's an opportunity to talk a bit lighter,
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to show your personality.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
That's how the leaders and their minders see it.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But Anthony Alberanezi was hammered on his nuclear scare campaign.
He's been claiming that the Liberals nuclear plan will cost
six hundred billion dollars. He's relying on Smart Energy Council modeling.
The Smart Energy Council is a donor to the Labor Party.
On the other hand, Peter Dunn and the Coalition say
that their total energy plan, which includes nuclear, will only
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cost three hundred billion dollars and they're relying on modeling
from Frontier Economics. And so this radio host really hammered.
Anthony Albanezy excited. It's not Peter Dutton was back in
Brisbane in his seat of Dixon. It's the most marginal
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seat in Queensland. Peter Dundon's expected to hold that seat,
but Labour's.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Been throwing a lot at it.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
They've been doing a lot of fundraising, texting, email and
calling people to give money to oust Peter Dutton. Peter
Dutton says he wasn't there because he's scared of losing
his seat, although he does say he doesn't take it
for granted, but he said he was there for a
Salvation Army Red Shield appeal event. Peter Dutton's been involved
with the Salvation Army in his electorate for twenty years
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and he's quite popular there.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
One man kissed him on the forehead, of course, has
a bald head.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And Peter Dutton defended the fact that he believes he
can hold his electorate and he defended why he was there.
But again, more polls that come out on the thurs Day.
There was a Redbridge poll showing Labor ahead fifty three
forty seven percent on the two party preferred. There was
also a you gov poll which showed similar results. So
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Peter Dutton was on the defensive big time on the
last Thursday of the campaign.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
This election really is a referendum, not about the election campaign,
but about the last three years of government.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Are you better off today than you were three years ago?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
So that's where we come to an end with week five.
The next time we talk will be a wrap up
of the election. Will Anthony Albanezi remain Prime Minister? Will
Peter Dutton asked him? After just one term?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
That's all ahead of us.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Definitely tune in Too seven News on Saturday night and
stay on Channel seven for our electorate election coverage. We'll
also have coverage on our website sevenews dot com dot
au and on all our social media pages. I'm keen
to do another podcast to wrap up this whole process
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and we can re view the election night.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Were the polls.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right, did Anthony Albanezi and Labor win? Or were the
polls wrong like in twenty nineteen, and did Peter Dutton
shock the nation and become Prime Minister. It's all ahead
of us, looking forward to talking to you again. My
name's Josh Martin. I'm a political reporter for seven years
and this has been another episode of Snapshot