Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
Good afternoon. Links to Donald Trump cost him not only
the federal election but his own seat, and the US
President has just weighed in on Peter Dutton's defeat and
Anthony Alberze's historic victory. Laughter. Josh Martin now in Cambra, Josh,
good afternoon. What do the US President have to say?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Good afternoon, Tash Well, plenty of good things about the
Prime Minister and a bit of a parting shot about
Peter Dutton. Anthony Albaneze has just flown back into Cambra.
Thesa shots our Cameron and have just got from the airport.
He's ready to launch into his second term. The big
question is how he will deal with President Trump and
those tariffs on our major exports like medals, beef and pharmaceuticals.
(00:44):
The Commander in Chief asked on the White House lawns
his response to Anthony Alberese's reelection, Mister Trump saying he
has a good relationship with the PM and that he
has no idea who the ousted liberal leader is.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
He's been very badly.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Just like in Panada, they say if the comfort backs again.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
He's happy to get away.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
He is telling out there with an election this week well,
I don't know who Bernis I'm very friendly with. I
haven't I.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Don't know anything about the election other than.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
He took one again.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
He would only.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Man that won is very he's very good, he's a
pregnant were not the.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Act of a friend? Will you speaking to him now
exactuating him on to win?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Well, I can.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Only say that he's been very very nice to me,
very respectful to me.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I have no idea who the other person is that
ran against him. Dolald Trump seems to sell you're a
good block.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Well, yeah, and I need to know who the other
block was. Well, I'll have more. I'll have more to
say about that in a little while. But Australia and
the United States have a great friendship.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
A very casual prime minister walking into Parliament. The big
question is now who will take over the Liberal leadership.
The contenders include Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor, Moderate heavyweight Susan Lee,
Victorian Dan Tien and former SAS soldier Andrew Hasty from
wa Angus Taylor from the New South Wales Right is
considered the front runner at the moment.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Tush and Josh As we saw with those pictures just
a short time ago. The Prime Minister is now back
in Canberra and straight down to working on his new ministry.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes, and his phone is likely lighting up with texts
from MP's minister's factional operatives. The left of the Labor
Party is now likely to get an extra seat in
the ministry, and the Queenslanders, led by Treasurer Jim Chalmers,
are pushing for more representation. Of course, they ousted Peter
Dutton in Dixon and also picked up a few seats,
which was a bit of a surprise.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
The more Queenslanders, the better.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's our position.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
We have made a huge contribution to this victory.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
We need to get on quickly with the process of
selecting our ministry and swearing in the government.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
With such a large majority, Tash Anthony ALBERINSI can set
the agenda and define his legacy. We're also expecting him
to address the nation shortly.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And we'll cross to that as soon as it happens. Josh,
thank you so much with their takes on the Liberal Party.
Wipe Adam where too. Now we're joined this afternoon by
former Labor Party leader Bill Shorten, as well as political
strategist and Indigenous leader Warren Mundine. Thank you to both
of you for joining us after a massive weekend. So you, firstly,
mister Shorten, let's start with the massive rebuild ahead for
(03:23):
a broken, completely shattered Liberal Party. Your advice to fellow
panelists from the Liberal Party on seven's election coverage on
Saturday night was the party needed to move to the center.
I'm just going to interrupt. Sorry, we understand the Prime
Minister Anthony Albanezi is about to speak. Let's go to
that press conference right now.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
In the Prime Minister's courtyard and I do want to
thank the Australian people for the very clear mandate that
they've given my government. Today we continue the work of
continuing to build Australia's future. I promised to be a
prime Minister for all Australians, those who voted, labor those
(04:00):
who didn't, and hope to earn the trust of the
Australian people on an ongoing basis. We are deeply humble
by the result on Saturday and we don't take a
second of it for granted. The hard work will continue today.
My government has been an orderly government. We have worked hard.
(04:22):
We've had effective ministers but also an effective caucus, and
we've engaged in a way that's clear, that's forward looking.
That made not just a case that we had been
a good government in getting inflation down, wages up, interest
rates starting to fall, employment growing. We also had an
(04:46):
effective offer going forward as well that resonated with people
that we developed in consultation with people. I said before
the last election that you needed more than one term
as a labor government, and I sought from that first day.
Indeed I became a Labor leader back in twenty nineteen.
(05:11):
I want Labor to be the natural party of government.
I think that given who we are, representing working people,
but also effectively engaging with business and engaging with civil society,
that we can make what is the best country on
earth even better in the future. I am genuinely so
(05:34):
optimistic that if we get this decade right, we can
set Australia up for the many decades ahead. And that's
why I put forward such a positive agenda, not just
during the election campaign but throughout my time as Labor leader.
I do want to thank as well the world leaders
(05:57):
who have passed on their congratulations, who've done that through
the various social media forms that exist these days, those
who've texted me, but also past the leaders as well,
friends like Tony Blair and Matteo Renzi and others as
well I've met and developed relationships with over the years.
(06:21):
This morning, and yes, I've spoken with a number of leaders.
I've spoken with Prime Minister Marape, President Proboo of Indonesia,
President Zelenski of Ukraine, Prime Minister Keir Starmer, Prime Minister
Mark Karney, who invited me to attend the G seven
(06:43):
in Canada in June and I have accepted that invitation.
And President Donald Trump of the United States. I have
meetings scheduled or phone calls scheduled this afternoon with Prime
Minister Lawrence Wong. Can I take the opportunity on behalf
(07:04):
of Australia to congratulate Prime Minister Wong who was successfully
re elected with a substantial vote there in Singapore on Saturday.
Lawrence Wong is a great friend of Australia. I've developed
a good relationship with him, not just since his rise
(07:24):
to the Prime ministership, but as Deputy Prime Minister. He
hosted me when COVID affected his predecessor, when I attended
the Shangril Dialogue and had the honor of giving what
is the most significant defense and foreign affairs speech in
our region, but perhaps in the globe. Prime Minister Shinawatra
(07:50):
of Thailand we'll have a chat scheduled tomorrow along with
Prime Minister Modi of my friend from India. Continue to
schedule that will be a bit of a focus over
the next couple of days, as well as receiving briefings
on Prime Minister and cabinet. I had a briefing from
(08:10):
the Treasury Secretary during the election campaign about the state
of the economy going forward as well, and I look
forward to engaging try and slow the pace a little
bit overcoming days. I'll consult with colleagues about forming a
(08:33):
front bench down the track. We obviously there are a
number of results that are unclear in electorates, but is
very clear that we will have a substantial majority in
the House of Representatives. And I'll make this point we
had a majority last time in the House of Representatives.
(08:53):
I treated people with respect. My door is open to
members of any political or none who are elected as
members of the House of Representatives or the Senate. They
all deserve to be treated with respect. If people have
good ideas, RP for hearing them but I said here
(09:15):
on about three four hundred and twenty two occasions that
my objective was forming a majority government. That's what we
did and that is a good thing I think for
the country. Happy to take some questions from Phil. Thanks
very much, Phil, having a very clear man.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That's where we will leave our Prime Minister Anthony Alberaneesi speaking.
They're live in Canberra as he is back to work
as the Prime Minister. We return now to Bill Shorten
and Warren Mundine. Thank you to both of you for
your patients. As we were listening to the Prime Minister
speaking there, mister Shorton, if I can return to my
original question and in regards to where the Liberal Party
(10:02):
went so horribly wrong, where do you think was it,
mister Dutton that he wasn't an electable leader. Do you
think it was policy on the run or a combination
of both. Many people are saying the Liberal Party seem
to forget about the younger Australians and also the very
important female vote.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well, it's been interesting coming back to the University of
Cambride today and talking to people on campus about their
reactions and how they voted and what they thought happened.
So I'm not a member of the Liberal Party, so
I guess it's a bit easy for me just to
offer a view from outside the political bubble. But you've
got to have an alternative. They didn't make the case
for change. I'm not going to pile in on Peter
(10:43):
Dutton personally. I've been where he is though, who didn't
lose quite as badly as he did. The reality is
that there will be a lot of explanations. Everyone will
have a reason, but you need to have a strong
alternative content and narrative. The rise of President Trump sounding
out anything which sounded remotely like a President Trump policy
probably speak to people a bit. But that also I think.
(11:06):
I think the Coalition relied on grievance against the government
and the cost of living pressures, but didn't have enough
of their own alternative. And when Trump is sort of
creating unpredictability globally, people wanted to look, who's got the
better plan here, and I don't think the Coalition, well,
I know the Coalition didn't make the case. It was
a bad campaign. They didn't make the case at all.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Mister Mundy, we just heard from the Prime Minister there,
mister Albanesi saying the Labor Party is about respecting working
people and representing working people and also engaging with business.
What does the Liberal Party stand for in twenty twenty
five and moving forward.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Well, that's a good question, that's a big question. And
I'll go back to just to say that this is
a victory for Alberanizi. He's now going into the path
and on of Australia's one of Australia's greatest leaders. There's
no doubt about it. Look at the number of seats
they picked up, look at the I got to give
(12:04):
it to him, you know. I had a bit of
a shot with Bill on the weekend and that, But
the truth was he did run a very good campaign.
It was a very discipline, a very straight campaign. The
Liberals on the other side, you know, the side that
I was on was it was a disastrous campaign. There's
no doubt about that. And as Bill just said then,
(12:29):
they didn't prosecute the case. I go back to twenty
ten when Tony Abbott was the leader. He come close,
very close to unseating a first term government, but he
built the numbers for the twenty thirteen election where the
Libs the coalition did come to power. In that election.
(12:52):
This election, this is, I'll be quite honest, is a
six year government. Now they've won this election, they've already
got the next election, and then if the Liberal Party
isn't able to pull itself together over this first term
of the Albanzi I mean, the second term the Albanesi government,
then they could look at nine years in the opposition.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Mister shortened. As we know, leadership is incredibly important, especially
for rebuilding the broken Liberal Party. We all know for
the sake of democracy we need to have a great
opposition against the Labor Party. Who do you think should
lead the Liberal Party moving forward?
Speaker 5 (13:30):
I don't know if the next Liberal Prime minister is
even in their party at the moment. The Liberal Party,
it's not just about the people you put up. I mean,
that's part of it, but they've got to move back
to the center. Like at the moment, immigrants don't think
they speak to them. People born after nineteen eighty one
don't see anything in the Liberal offering. If you're a
(13:53):
public sector work all the Liberals seem to want to
do is sack you if you're working from home. If
you're a mom who works from home part time and
goes into the office. The other time the Libs spook
you like they've got to move back to the center,
and I think it's probably I mean, they don't have
to take my advice. They probably won't, but I think
they need to have quotas to have more women in Parliament.
(14:14):
It worked for Labor when I was leader in twenty
fifteen we moved to fifty to fifty. Your party, you know,
it doesn't have to represent the electric down to the
last decimal point, but you've got to look like the
people that you want to vote for you. And at
the moment, I'm not sure the coalition do well.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
We're running out of time. Briefly, do you agree with
mister shorton there? Do you think we should see quotas?
And who do you think should lead the Liberal Party?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Well, the big one is what Bill said in the
first place, which is they've got to get back to
the to the values and to the issues of the
all Australians that are out there. That they've got to
actually start representing all Australians and that and the problem
within the Liberal Party that I see is exactly what
Bill stated in that if you try and do something different,
(15:00):
you're trying to get to that center. You're trying to
get the different to really represent the Australian people and
that you know, I've never seen a party that expels
so many people. And I'm being quite honest to you
and being quite open about it. Bill gave me a
challenge last week and I said, buggy, your Bill. You
really put it to me in regard to what I
run a different campaign. Look, the truth is I would
(15:22):
have this. This was a disastrous campaign. They need to
get back to focusing on the Australian people and looking
at them rather than nable gazing. You agree.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
It's great to see Laura Mundane and Bill Shlton. Thanks
so much for joining us.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Life. Now we'll move on.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
You go to university. I'll go and have a couple
of black teams.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
The elections over