June 28, 2025 • 29 mins
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Tori Adams MAFS – Living With Your Ex
Should Woman Wear Make Up?
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, I'm talking. Let's go. Good morning that remains
to be seen. Chris Paige and Amy Gerard. Good morning everyone,
and especially the you. Amy Gerard morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Happy Sunday, everyone, Happy Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Katie Perry in the country at the moment. It's fun
seeing Katie around and all the paparazzi shots of her
just hanging out at the shops.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, a whole bunch of my girlfriends actually went to
her concert and took their daughters and said it was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
She went to Blue World. I saw she met Blue
and bingo, Well is she here with her daughter? The
photos of just her and Blue, So maybe a lot
of grown ups are Bluey, especially in America.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They love Here's iconic.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
She was weir with Robert Irwin. Not sorry, not with
Robert hewinshotos start paging. Well, who knows? Because Katie Perry
and Orlando Bloom have announced that they have split. Yes,
six months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, I actually read it was when she took off
to the moon. I mean that's right. Yeah, I'd probably
split with Ryan then too.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
If he goes, Hey, guess what, babe, I'm an astronaut.
Now I'm going up with bezos.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But also you're not an astronaut.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Anyway. They're splited six months ago and they're basically staying
together though, so they're living arrangements haven't really changed. They're
more or less staying together for their daughter Daisy that
they have together.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So they don't live together, and she's in an adelaide.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, she's touring and she's an adelaide tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He's probably doing a movie, so they they're actually not together.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, they probably don't live Even when they were together,
they probably did spend a lot of time apart anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, it would definitely make getting a divorce and being
separated a hell of a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, except there's more money to split up.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
In the divorce. Oh that's sad.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Would you consider living like staying in the same house
with Ryan if you split up and it was amicable,
He wasn't rooting around on you, but he if you
guys just grew apart.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. If we decided to go
our separate ways, I would not be living in the
same house as that man. No, why would I be.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Would kid with his so their dad's around.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Farts and his mess and all that kind of stuff.
I do all. I put up with that, all for
the kids. Now, if I wasn't with him and I
didn't love him and we weren't in love or married anymore,
hell no, get out of my house.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Actually needing for the kids. You said he was a
terrible dad as well.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
He's a great dad. He's a good dad.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We were just talking Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom. They
are done, but they're still living together for the kid.
I told you that there were There's another reason. A
lot of couples right here in Australia as well. This
is ordinary people you know, are still living together after
they split up because of the cost of living. There's
a rental you know, getting you look at the queues
(03:23):
outside rental joints. There a nightmare. Actually there's was a
Tory from Maths. Tory and Jack who were together on Maths,
actually ended.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Up splitting, and I think they were together for two years. Afterwards.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
There was an article they've split and they're still living together.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
That would be so hard.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I see if we can get Tory on, can you
ring Tory from Maths. Please go give her a call, No,
because I want to know if that's a cost of
living thing or if it's a I don't know, it's
an arrangements because they don't have kids, so you'd think
maybe it's a I don't know. So you said you
would never ever stay in the same house with Ryan
post breakup. What about if you were both flat broke.
(04:03):
I mean it's impossible to know.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
He could go on with his mum.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, or his new younger hot a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, whatever, I don't care. Just if we're not together,
you're gone.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
On the line.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
No way.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Tory from Maths, who of course found love with Jack
on the show and was in the news recently because
they split up sadly, but are still living together.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Hey, toy, I I'm good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Is there a reason why you guys are still living together?
Isn't like you can't. Is it because you want to
stay in Brisbane or no?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So we're on the Gold Coast, But pretty much the
reason why I'm still living there is there is no
rush for me to move out. I guess you know.
There is nothing nasty happening between Jack and I. We
literally split because we just figured we are just better
off as friends. Yeah, still a lot of love there,
but it is he's like my best friend, right. So
(04:59):
I will eventually move back home to Melbourne, but for
the time being, we're just happy doing what we're doing
in the same apartment and at work.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And I think it's good when you have both come
to a decision and it is really amicable on both sides.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It'd be different if someone was cheating and got busted
and it was.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Nice, completely different.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The thing is, if I lived with my ex and
I had been out on the source with my girlfriends,
I would probably come home and entertain that again. Has
that happened.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's all about boundaries, and I think if you discuss
them very early on and you stick to them, because
it has so much room to be messy.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Sorry, let me ask about one of those boundaries. What
if Jack was out out on the town and met
a twenty one year old blonde cocktail waitress and really
hit it off, and she said, hey, let's go back
to yours. Have you guys got something down in writing
that that's a no go bringing people back.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Look, I think the level of respect that Jack and
I have for each other, that is pretty much well known.
Absolutely not. Yeah, I mean, look, that goes without saying
it's a big, massive boundary that would have been crossed
if that occurred.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Not under the same roof obviously, but if you guys
had a conversation about one of you seeing someone else
or being with someone else, have you guys been over
with each other about that and has it happened?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's obviously it's very soon. It's very very soon. I'm
not antichaining the idea of dating anyone. Then, I'm pretty
confident I can speak on Jack's behalf with that as well.
I think we're just navigating this new chapter I would
call it, because we're obviously still in each other's lives
and it's just a lot of newness and a lot
of navigating.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Did money play a part in the decision at all?
Because you see those cues for any rental property, you know,
one hundred people showing up to look at an apartment
and you know everything costs a fortune. Did that come
into play at all?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Not really, because I'd never living on the Gold Coast
long term for myself, even if Jack and I were
still together, was going to come into question. So no,
it's just simply for me to move out like logistically,
it's just it makes no sense and it's a nightmare
(07:20):
I hate.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. Being the middle of winter
as well makes the decision easier. We're going to go
Gold Coast on Melbourne. Yes, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It's pretty pretty cold here at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's Gold Coast cold. Maybe I don't try to Melbourne winter.
You must have forgotten already what a Melbourne winter feels like.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, thanks for taking our call, Tory. Glad to hear
it's all going well and hopefully it continues swimmingly for you.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, that's that's good to hear.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It sounds really quite grown up.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Actually, it's very mature, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's the opposite of Maths the show. You guys are
actually like getting along well and acting like adult. It's
like the Channel nine.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Would hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Channel nine would hate us so much.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It would be such boring television. Next, Hey, Tory, good
to talk to you. Thank you. Chris ra there's a
dating expert online. We have spoken about him once before.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm pretty sure he's come on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Jake Maddock. Well, he's got some more advice okay, but
this one's a little more controversial. I feel he's ruffled
some feathers with his thoughts on women and makeup that
a lady online has reacted to girls.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Here's another fun interesting fact.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well quick, there's about to be a fun.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And interesting fact which a lot of people say isn't true.
But it's quite funny. You look more attractive with makeup on.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, you do, fun and interesting fact.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'm not sure when he'll get to that bed.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Ten times more attractive with makeup on. It's quite funny.
You know what men find most attractive?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Intelligence?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Kind rellipsic blush? Did the stuff on your eyes? Your
hair is beautiful, got heaps of makeup on? You look
absolutely dazzling. If you guys says I think you look
better without makeup, he's probably lying to you.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You know who? You always say.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You like me without make Every girl looks better with
makeup on if it's done correctly.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The stuff on your ears mascara. Like, I'm no beauty expert.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But here's my bug bear with that. I don't think
you look more attractive, like.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, hang on, why why spend all that money and
all that time you're wearing makeup? Right now. You look
beautiful well, but thank you, But why do you do it?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Then?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
If you're not more beautiful with makeup, then you wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's not about looking more well. Yeah, trying to articulate.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Why would you do it if you didn't look more beautiful?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You do. I don't do it to look more beautiful.
Look I do it to look more put together and polished.
I guess. I mean, I'm wearing my ug boots, but
I feel like if I just came with my hair
in a messy barn and no makeup, people would probably
be like, he's amy okay.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And you know that there's no cameras the ug boots.
There's cameras in the studio and they film things that
put them on Instagram. We can't see your rug boots
unless we had a camera under the desk. Jeez, that
would help our online hits. Should we Let's get a
camera under that.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And everyone would get fired. Yep. It's hard to.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I get that. He sounds like a pig saying, hey, girls,
you've got to wear makeupeah for us, But it's very
difficult to argue against because women just wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I think it's not. I think it's more about women.
They get the choice to wear makeup. I wear makeup
to work. I don't wear makeup at home. I don't
wear makeup around the house. I don't wear makeup to
sporting events with my kids.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So right, you don't ye make yourself up for Ryan getting.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Home at all. I don't think women are less attractive
when they're not wearing makeup. Well, from a man's point
of view, do you agree with Jake?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's it's very grating listening to a man telling women
to wear makeup.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's right. And the red lipstick like.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, I don't actually like red lipstick. It's very Yeah,
but prostituty, isn't it? The bright oh god, now, definitely
not prostituting.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, some women can pull off. I feel like the
dark hair, olive skin, it looks quite nice. I don't
like red lipstick on me. I find it looks a
bit tacky on myself. You're not allowed to say prostituting though, Sorry.
He's basically saying, women, if you want to be noticed more,
make sure you wear lots of makeup. All that IYE
(11:31):
stuff and lipstick and whatnot, and what he's taking away
from the fact that women can be found attractive from
other ways.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
There are women who apps, oh this, this is a
mine field, this whole thing for me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You need to be very careful how you step up.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I would say, if women didn't look better with makeup,
then women wouldn't spend money and time putting on makeup,
and most women do. It is a choice, and there
is nothing wrong if a woman decides she doesn't want
to wear makeup. But what Jake's saying is if two
women walk in the room and one of them is
beautifully made up with her hair and makeup and oh
stuff on her eyes, and there's a woman standing next
(12:14):
to her with absolutely nothing, you are more likely, I think,
to notice the woman who has made up. But then again,
there's those people who are just naturally beautiful, stunning, aren't they.
Do you want to know someone like that? Beyonce, I
years ago met Destiny's Child the band. I walked into
the room and there was the three girls from Destiny's
(12:37):
Child and a bunch of minders and other people from
the US record company. There's probably about twenty people in
the room. I swear to God. You walk in the
room and the only thing you can see is Beyonce's
face it just jumps out.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is that because she's famous.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Or they were all, like Kelly and Michelle were famous too.
This was just Destiny's child.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
But Beyonce, she does have a very beautiful face.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And only in person do you really see that jump out?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Stunning? It is?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, but she was wearing makeup just left, so that helped.
That helped.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Hon Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just his delivery.
Maybe it's because it's coming from a man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think that's it. Don't tell women what to do. Correct,
I'm quitting while I'm ahead. I don't even know I'm
that far ahead. After that, you're okay prostituting things?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Can I just say, world news that we are just
being constantly peppered with is so overwhelming?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Is hurting your head? Sweetie?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Don't talk to me like that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You're right?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Do you not think that it would have been so
much easier back in our parents' generation? They turn on
the seven pm news ABC.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
One reporter gets on and goes, this is what's happening
in X, Y and Z and boom. That's your parents take.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It for gospel, and that's they're the facts.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
They're the fact.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That was what one of the news readers used to
sound channel line at the end. He'd say, that's the
way it is this Tuesday. The blah blah blah blah blah,
that's the way it is, right, that's final.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It is a much obviously a much simpler generation. And
who knows if even what the wire being fed was right,
but it must have been a nice way to live
with it, like you're not second guessing anything. You're like, oh,
this is the truth, right, Whereas now, because of social media,
there is just so much information being uploaded onto every
single platform and it's coming at you from every single angle,
(14:33):
and you just don't know what is right.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And there's no such thing as a cold hard factore like,
because you can say the sky is blue and someone
will have an argument like, oh, well, no, you just
think it's blue because it's how that's how your eyes
see it. So even the sky is blue, it's not
a fact.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I will open up sometimes in the morning and you
just hear about all this horrendous stuff going on in
Africa and Russia and Iran and Paistan, and it's really
overwhelming and you feel completely helpless as an individual. You're
taking it all in and then you have to go
downstairs and make lunchboxes and be all cheering and like,
come on, kids, like be happy about life. Even though
(15:13):
apparently World War three is imminent.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
We weren't meant to live like this, so humans haven't
evolved to know. We shouldn't be knowing what's going on
the other side of the world and people are being slaughtered,
and we are meant to live in villages and sort
of maybe have contact with the next village over. And
that's about it. And any burden we have emotionally is
things that we can actually control, whereas now we're taking
(15:35):
on these burdens and these pictures of you know, dead
children and horrible things that we can't do anything about,
but we just have to wear that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It can really consume you.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Mental health, kid's mental health, you know, depression, anxiety, it's
all through the roof. I mean, this would be a
massive part of why.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Even I know people who have gone down you know,
certain spirals and like you pause on something for five
seconds longer and boom, that's what your algorithms feeding you.
And then all of a sudden, you are very much
in this column. You are you're wanting to march through
streets to do stuff about it. Nothing's going to get
done about it. And I'm not saying that like you
want to turn a blind eye and you shouldn't speak
(16:18):
up on it. But how do you even know what
the pathway that you've gone down is? Right? You don't.
No one knows the truth anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And you're asked to pick a side on everything these
days as well. I mean politics wise, there's left and
right have never been so divided and angry and against
each other. And I know everyone, let you know, oh,
how have you not spoken out about Israel and exactly?
And then someone will go, well have you not spoken
out about Palestine exactly? And he said, well, I read
(16:47):
this was happening in Palestine, and then then they said
it wasn't happening.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
How do you want me to have an opinion on
something when I have no idea what's really going on?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
That's exactly right. And it's it's so hard to digest
everything that you were fed and then get on with
your life. That's the part that I struggle with. I
feel like there is just far too much in animation.
Don't even get me started on AI crap either, because
when that's being fed into these platforms, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Going to get scary because you can't tell the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You cannot tell the difference, do you know what?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Just just take it from me. Just get all your
news and your opinions from celebrities on Twitter. Just whatever
they say.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Just go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, that's what James Woods seems like.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
A smart ignorance is bliss. Guys, turn off the news
and just live in the village surrounding you and there
if there's issues you can help.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That sounds nice. Actually, my blood pressure I just felt
it drop. I just pictured a veggie garden. Yes, just living.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Lady over there, cars broken down. You can go over
and help her. And that's what we're meant.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
To be Doings. Had quite a week, have you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I must be to you want to hear about it?
Working two days a week, Yeah, tell.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Me I love work. This is a break coming in
and talk to you.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The other day. No parenting, Oh yeah, that is a
tough job.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So Oscar, my five year old is in KINDI and
I don't know if any of your kids have had
this where they have sort of the class pet or
mascot Yeah, like a plush toys. It's a stuff toy.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, we had it in pre school.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, and they each kid has to take the pet
mascot thing home for a week. For a week, look
after it and take photos everywhere, and take it everywhere.
It does what you do.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's funny that you say that. I remember when Kobe
got it in preschool and I actually wrote to their
educators and said, I already have three kids. I do
not need to take ownership over something else, even for
a week.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Get them a tamagotchi or something, and they get them nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Don't send any more things home.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well, Shuffles the Penguin came home. We got to meet
Shuffles and lovely penguin as far as they go. He
was very nice. But of course we didn't really do
anything do anything with it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You got to take photos and put it in a book, right,
and write about the word.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, so Shuffles Diary comes with you and you look
through at what all the other kids and parents have
done with Shuffles the penguin and you go, oh my god,
they've gone all this effort, you know, jeez, And Oscar
reminds us Shuffles has to go back tomorrow and you're like,
oh God, so like running around doing all these photos
with him, took him to swimming, But Oscar's got the
same shirt on in every photo with Shuffles, so it's
(19:24):
a bit of a given.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I f that's pretty normal.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
We still didn't have enough. So even then on the Monday,
Oscar was at school, I was at home alone with Shuffles,
and I had the job of getting some extra photos.
So I thought, no, I'll go all out. I've got time.
So I took Shuffles up to the shops. I took
him on the bar.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
By wait, a grown man carrying a stuffed penguin.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, I had him in my backpack. I had him hidden,
but then just got him out for some photos.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, did you ask people to be like, can you
take your photo of me?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No, I wasn't in them. I would just like put
Shuffles on like a bus seat and take a photo.
And so then you put him in amongst the photos
with Oscar and it looks like so this is it
was with him.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So when I'm doing my other jobs and everyone else's
at work, You're gallivanting around the city with a stuffed
toy taking photos. For your kindergarten kid.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
This is what I did, and it's the ADHD. You
know it. Once you start doing something, you get a
bit fixated. And so got home. Georgie was going to
print off all the photos that I took of Shuffles
at work and bring them home because she's got fancy
printer at work. So I sent all the photo through
do her and went, how good's this? Right? She rings
(20:37):
me straight away and goes, I don't know how to
tell you this. That's not Shuffles. I said, you've taken
that wrong toy. She goes, that's another stuffed penguin that
we had at home, and I'm like, how many penguins
(20:57):
are you serious? We already had one. I had gone
around everywhere taking photos of a penguin we already had
that looks completely different to Shuffles.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
By the way, Wow, that's that's a solid ending to all.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That hard work down the drain. Ye Shuffles, we hate,
go back to Antarctica. What's the big issue in the
Facebook mums groups? What have we got?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Mum's written in saying Hi mums, just wondering has anyone
flown long haul business class with a baby. My husband
and I have always flown that way to Europe hard
flex and plan to do so with our six month old.
We know it's not going to be a popular decision
with other passengers. Here's my favorite part. We obviously know
(21:45):
that babies cry, but our baby is a very loud crier.
Oh we're not expecting a perfectly smooth ride, but just
wondering if others have done it, and is it okay
to do so?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Big issue? Okay, I mean, what.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Is a loud crier? Baby's loud, especially when you're in
confined spaces like an aeroplane.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I've only flown business class once.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I have my flying business class once.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And I would be furious if a baby was.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well because there is such a large difference in price.
I think when you're in economy, you just got to
wear it, take it on the chin. Babies need to
fly as well. We were all babies once. We probably
all cried and just get over it. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Economy is trash and you know that, you.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Know when I mean, that's how we always fly. No
one wants to sit next to a crying baby, right,
But I absolutely empathize with mothers because no mum also
wants to have a crying baby with her, and so
as a mom myself, you know how stressful that situation is.
So I always try and get up and help. But
would I be annoyed if I had paid a lot
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of money to fly business and there was a loud,
trying baby next to me? Probably?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Well, what's business to Europe? It's about fifteen grand each
way or something?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Isn't nic It surely is. No, I don't think it's
that much. It's about six seven each way.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Maybe that's with points.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We are not visuals, we are business. But look the
whole crying baby on a plane thing. I think it
is a very it's a bit dated that because you've
got everyone's got EarPods. Yeah, and particularly in business, they
give you the good Bose noise canceling headphones. So I
think you're going to be it'd be annoying if you
were like with your partner on honeymoon and you wanted
(23:36):
to chat and everything. But I think if the baby
was crying, I reckon you'd whack on the boats headphones
and watch Oppenheimer and have.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
A few champagnes. You know what, after seven champagnes, you
probably won't even hear the baby.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Drinking does solve everything and create a lot of problems.
It's the solution and cause of all of life's problems.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But also, if you're flying business and there's a crying
baby next to you, I mean there's there's bigger issues
in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Right, Yeah, you're in business, so you're still in business.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You're still in business next to a crying baby. It
could be worse. It could be an economy next to
a crying baby.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Order another champagne, put your flat and crank on the bows, headphones. Amen,
you'll be right. Yeah, get over yourself. God, I don't
want to fly business again. It was so good. Yes,
it was annoying. Georgie. There's the screen that you can
put up and down in between the scenes. I'd ask
her all the way I go these questions. I go, hey, Georgie,
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tell me who was your favorite character in Friends and why?
And she'd go, well, Chandler was great. I'd just go
and like, just put the screen up while she's talking.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Got so annoying.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Must have done that twenty times.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
She fell for it every time, got.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Her every time. Yeah, but it's and Yang. You know,
you have one smart person in the relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Georgie is a smart one.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yep, yeah, that's what I was saying, Chris Youd, I
told you we had coming up the secret to a
lasting marriage, and this is.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's really simple, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Surprisingly? Yeah, from a heart professor who has been studying
love for over twenty years, for over twenty years at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What does studying love even look like?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Just sleeping with his students? How's that cure for cancer
coming over? Why don't we get back to that?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Professor Brooks has revealed that the goal of your marriage
is not passion, it's friendship. You must be close friends,
ideally best friends with your spouse.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's sort of common sense, right, common sense?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
My wife's my best friend.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, well, I don't think that you need to be
best friends. Like my best friend is my mom, not
my husband. He's a good maid of mine, sure, old mate,
But my mom is my best friend. And then my
girlfriends are my best friends. Like that's who I bitch
about my husband too. But we do have a friendship.
And I do agree with it that you need to
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have a solid foundation and you do need to be
friends because I think eventually when your kids leave. If
you guys don't get along or have any common interest,
well then what do you have?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Well, then it becomes companionship. Yeah, there's no friendship there
because the passion. He says, it's not about passion. Passion's
going to not I don't want to say die, but
it fizzle allowed as you get older. I mean, as
if you know your parents are still going strong, but
I doubt they're jumping in the sack a few times
a week.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Oh no, they're not. They're still pretty active though. Good
for them. I have asked big be the question not
as frequently.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Asked your dad that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
We're a pretty open family. It was very joky, jokey,
and I said, oh, you know, do do the oldies
still you know, get like busy with it? He was like, oh, oh,
we used to do, but you know we still give
it a good nudge. And I was like, wait, what
how like once a week or once a month. It's
still once a month.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I was going to say, please, don't tell me your
parents have more sex than I. Yes, they do, they
do well.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I will say this, My parents have been married for
forty four years. They still do this. Every time they
come up. They take their deck chair and they go
down to the back of the yard and they will
sit there sometimes for three four hours in summer, obviously
a lot longer in winter, maybe one or two hours,
and they sit down there without their phones, and they
just talk to each other and then he right. And
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I remember one time going down there with Ryan because
I was like, Oh, let's go down the backyard. And
we sat there and we're like twiddling our thumb and
I was like, don't reach for your phone. Don't reach
for your phone. Don't reach for your phone. And then
I said to Ryan, how do my mom and dad
sit What do they talk about for four hours?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Are they talking about the news? Do they read the
paper and then bounce stories off each other?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I do think they are quite comfortable in each other's silences,
So I do think there's moments of just sitting in
in silence.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
How many bottles of wine are they going through it?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, they go through a few, so that obviously helps.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That lubricates the compensations.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, but I do think that there is something to that.
But I do wonder if our generation lacks that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The phones don't help, do they.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
They really don't. We try to go out for dinner, though,
and when we go out for dinner, we try like
we never put bring our phones out.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Do you talk about the kids? I find when I
sit down with Georgie, we go out, when we're on holidays,
we have some time alone, we end up just talking
about Henry and Oscar.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
No. I mean yes to some extent, but we often
will try to talk about things that are exciting, things
that are coming up in our lives. He likes to
unpack a lot from work, and I like to pretend
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Is he interested in radio? Like when you come home
and does he go, how is the show? Or what
did you talk about? Or does he glaze over when
you go this is what we did on kiss?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He glazes over for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What does he listen to? Does he listen to the radio?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
No? He makes work calls fun.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He's that guy in sales. In sales sounds exciting. How
was your day? Ryan?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
But hang on it says here one of the most
important things for a happy life is a partnership with
somebody who'll be the last person who set eyes on
as you take your last dying.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Breath, your last dying breath, what is there standing over
you with a pillowod.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I still think at the end of the day, it
very much just becomes about companionship. Yes, like you need
someone to wipe your barm and put your nappy on
as you get old.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I do know. I don't know him well, but I
know a guy whose wife had a fall and broke
both of her wrists, so he was wiping her backside
for her for like three months. Well that's love, love.
We didn't need a Harvard professor for that one. Chris
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, I'm talking. Let's go. Good morning that remains
to be seen. Chris Paige and Amy Gerard. Good morning everyone,
and especially the you. Amy Gerard morning.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Happy Sunday, everyone, Happy Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Katie Perry in the country at the moment. It's fun
seeing Katie around and all the paparazzi shots of her
just hanging out at the shops.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, a whole bunch of my girlfriends actually went to
her concert and took their daughters and said it was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
She went to Blue World. I saw she met Blue
and bingo, Well is she here with her daughter? The
photos of just her and Blue, So maybe a lot
of grown ups are Bluey, especially in America.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They love Here's iconic.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
She was weir with Robert Irwin. Not sorry, not with
Robert hewinshotos start paging. Well, who knows? Because Katie Perry
and Orlando Bloom have announced that they have split. Yes,
six months ago.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, I actually read it was when she took off
to the moon. I mean that's right. Yeah, I'd probably
split with Ryan then too.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
If he goes, Hey, guess what, babe, I'm an astronaut.
Now I'm going up with bezos.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
But also you're not an astronaut.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Anyway. They're splited six months ago and they're basically staying
together though, so they're living arrangements haven't really changed. They're
more or less staying together for their daughter Daisy that
they have together.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
So they don't live together, and she's in an adelaide.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Well, she's touring and she's an adelaide tonight.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
He's probably doing a movie, so they they're actually not together.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, they probably don't live Even when they were together,
they probably did spend a lot of time apart anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, it would definitely make getting a divorce and being
separated a hell of a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, except there's more money to split up.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
In the divorce. Oh that's sad.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Would you consider living like staying in the same house
with Ryan if you split up and it was amicable,
He wasn't rooting around on you, but he if you
guys just grew apart.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Absolutely not. No, absolutely not. If we decided to go
our separate ways, I would not be living in the
same house as that man. No, why would I be.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Would kid with his so their dad's around.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Farts and his mess and all that kind of stuff.
I do all. I put up with that, all for
the kids. Now, if I wasn't with him and I
didn't love him and we weren't in love or married anymore,
hell no, get out of my house.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Actually needing for the kids. You said he was a
terrible dad as well.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
He's a great dad. He's a good dad.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We were just talking Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom. They
are done, but they're still living together for the kid.
I told you that there were There's another reason. A
lot of couples right here in Australia as well. This
is ordinary people you know, are still living together after
they split up because of the cost of living. There's
a rental you know, getting you look at the queues
(03:23):
outside rental joints. There a nightmare. Actually there's was a
Tory from Maths. Tory and Jack who were together on Maths,
actually ended.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Up splitting, and I think they were together for two years. Afterwards.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
There was an article they've split and they're still living together.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
That would be so hard.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I see if we can get Tory on, can you
ring Tory from Maths. Please go give her a call, No,
because I want to know if that's a cost of
living thing or if it's a I don't know, it's
an arrangements because they don't have kids, so you'd think
maybe it's a I don't know. So you said you
would never ever stay in the same house with Ryan
post breakup. What about if you were both flat broke.
(04:03):
I mean it's impossible to know.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
He could go on with his mum.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, or his new younger hot a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, whatever, I don't care. Just if we're not together,
you're gone.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
On the line.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
No way.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Tory from Maths, who of course found love with Jack
on the show and was in the news recently because
they split up sadly, but are still living together.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Hey, toy, I I'm good, thank you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Is there a reason why you guys are still living together?
Isn't like you can't. Is it because you want to
stay in Brisbane or no?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So we're on the Gold Coast, But pretty much the
reason why I'm still living there is there is no
rush for me to move out. I guess you know.
There is nothing nasty happening between Jack and I. We
literally split because we just figured we are just better
off as friends. Yeah, still a lot of love there,
but it is he's like my best friend, right. So
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I will eventually move back home to Melbourne, but for
the time being, we're just happy doing what we're doing
in the same apartment and at work.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
And I think it's good when you have both come
to a decision and it is really amicable on both sides.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It'd be different if someone was cheating and got busted
and it was.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Nice, completely different.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
The thing is, if I lived with my ex and
I had been out on the source with my girlfriends,
I would probably come home and entertain that again. Has
that happened.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's all about boundaries, and I think if you discuss
them very early on and you stick to them, because
it has so much room to be messy.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Sorry, let me ask about one of those boundaries. What
if Jack was out out on the town and met
a twenty one year old blonde cocktail waitress and really
hit it off, and she said, hey, let's go back
to yours. Have you guys got something down in writing
that that's a no go bringing people back.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Look, I think the level of respect that Jack and
I have for each other, that is pretty much well known.
Absolutely not. Yeah, I mean, look, that goes without saying
it's a big, massive boundary that would have been crossed
if that occurred.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Not under the same roof obviously, but if you guys
had a conversation about one of you seeing someone else
or being with someone else, have you guys been over
with each other about that and has it happened?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It's obviously it's very soon. It's very very soon. I'm
not antichaining the idea of dating anyone. Then, I'm pretty
confident I can speak on Jack's behalf with that as well.
I think we're just navigating this new chapter I would
call it, because we're obviously still in each other's lives
and it's just a lot of newness and a lot
of navigating.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Did money play a part in the decision at all?
Because you see those cues for any rental property, you know,
one hundred people showing up to look at an apartment
and you know everything costs a fortune. Did that come
into play at all?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Not really, because I'd never living on the Gold Coast
long term for myself, even if Jack and I were
still together, was going to come into question. So no,
it's just simply for me to move out like logistically,
it's just it makes no sense and it's a nightmare
(07:20):
I hate.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. Being the middle of winter
as well makes the decision easier. We're going to go
Gold Coast on Melbourne. Yes, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It's pretty pretty cold here at the moment.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It's Gold Coast cold. Maybe I don't try to Melbourne winter.
You must have forgotten already what a Melbourne winter feels like.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Well, thanks for taking our call, Tory. Glad to hear
it's all going well and hopefully it continues swimmingly for you.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Boy.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah, that's that's good to hear.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It sounds really quite grown up.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Actually, it's very mature, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
It is.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's the opposite of Maths the show. You guys are
actually like getting along well and acting like adult. It's
like the Channel nine.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Would hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Channel nine would hate us so much.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It would be such boring television. Next, Hey, Tory, good
to talk to you. Thank you. Chris ra there's a
dating expert online. We have spoken about him once before.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm pretty sure he's come on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Jake Maddock. Well, he's got some more advice okay, but
this one's a little more controversial. I feel he's ruffled
some feathers with his thoughts on women and makeup that
a lady online has reacted to girls.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Here's another fun interesting fact.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well quick, there's about to be a fun.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And interesting fact which a lot of people say isn't true.
But it's quite funny. You look more attractive with makeup on.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah, you do, fun and interesting fact.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'm not sure when he'll get to that bed.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Ten times more attractive with makeup on. It's quite funny.
You know what men find most attractive?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Intelligence?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Kind rellipsic blush? Did the stuff on your eyes? Your
hair is beautiful, got heaps of makeup on? You look
absolutely dazzling. If you guys says I think you look
better without makeup, he's probably lying to you.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
You know who? You always say.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You like me without make Every girl looks better with
makeup on if it's done correctly.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The stuff on your ears mascara. Like, I'm no beauty expert.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But here's my bug bear with that. I don't think
you look more attractive, like.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, hang on, why why spend all that money and
all that time you're wearing makeup? Right now. You look
beautiful well, but thank you, But why do you do it?
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Then?
Speaker 2 (09:31):
If you're not more beautiful with makeup, then you wouldn't
do it.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
It's not about looking more well. Yeah, trying to articulate.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Why would you do it if you didn't look more beautiful?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
You do. I don't do it to look more beautiful.
Look I do it to look more put together and polished.
I guess. I mean, I'm wearing my ug boots, but
I feel like if I just came with my hair
in a messy barn and no makeup, people would probably
be like, he's amy okay.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
And you know that there's no cameras the ug boots.
There's cameras in the studio and they film things that
put them on Instagram. We can't see your rug boots
unless we had a camera under the desk. Jeez, that
would help our online hits. Should we Let's get a
camera under that.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And everyone would get fired. Yep. It's hard to.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I get that. He sounds like a pig saying, hey, girls,
you've got to wear makeupeah for us, But it's very
difficult to argue against because women just wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I think it's not. I think it's more about women.
They get the choice to wear makeup. I wear makeup
to work. I don't wear makeup at home. I don't
wear makeup around the house. I don't wear makeup to
sporting events with my kids.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So right, you don't ye make yourself up for Ryan getting.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Home at all. I don't think women are less attractive
when they're not wearing makeup. Well, from a man's point
of view, do you agree with Jake?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
It's it's very grating listening to a man telling women
to wear makeup.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
That's right. And the red lipstick like.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah, I don't actually like red lipstick. It's very Yeah,
but prostituty, isn't it? The bright oh god, now, definitely
not prostituting.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, some women can pull off. I feel like the
dark hair, olive skin, it looks quite nice. I don't
like red lipstick on me. I find it looks a
bit tacky on myself. You're not allowed to say prostituting though, Sorry.
He's basically saying, women, if you want to be noticed more,
make sure you wear lots of makeup. All that IYE
(11:31):
stuff and lipstick and whatnot, and what he's taking away
from the fact that women can be found attractive from
other ways.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
There are women who apps, oh this, this is a
mine field, this whole thing for me.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You need to be very careful how you step up.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I would say, if women didn't look better with makeup,
then women wouldn't spend money and time putting on makeup,
and most women do. It is a choice, and there
is nothing wrong if a woman decides she doesn't want
to wear makeup. But what Jake's saying is if two
women walk in the room and one of them is
beautifully made up with her hair and makeup and oh
stuff on her eyes, and there's a woman standing next
(12:14):
to her with absolutely nothing, you are more likely, I think,
to notice the woman who has made up. But then again,
there's those people who are just naturally beautiful, stunning, aren't they.
Do you want to know someone like that? Beyonce, I
years ago met Destiny's Child the band. I walked into
the room and there was the three girls from Destiny's
(12:37):
Child and a bunch of minders and other people from
the US record company. There's probably about twenty people in
the room. I swear to God. You walk in the
room and the only thing you can see is Beyonce's
face it just jumps out.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Is that because she's famous.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Or they were all, like Kelly and Michelle were famous too.
This was just Destiny's child.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
But Beyonce, she does have a very beautiful face.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And only in person do you really see that jump out?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Stunning? It is?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, but she was wearing makeup just left, so that helped.
That helped.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Hon Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just his delivery.
Maybe it's because it's coming from a man.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think that's it. Don't tell women what to do. Correct,
I'm quitting while I'm ahead. I don't even know I'm
that far ahead. After that, you're okay prostituting things?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Can I just say, world news that we are just
being constantly peppered with is so overwhelming?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Is hurting your head? Sweetie?
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Don't talk to me like that.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
You're right?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Do you not think that it would have been so
much easier back in our parents' generation? They turn on
the seven pm news ABC.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
One reporter gets on and goes, this is what's happening
in X, Y and Z and boom. That's your parents take.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It for gospel, and that's they're the facts.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
They're the fact.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That was what one of the news readers used to
sound channel line at the end. He'd say, that's the
way it is this Tuesday. The blah blah blah blah blah,
that's the way it is, right, that's final.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It is a much obviously a much simpler generation. And
who knows if even what the wire being fed was right,
but it must have been a nice way to live
with it, like you're not second guessing anything. You're like, oh,
this is the truth, right, Whereas now, because of social media,
there is just so much information being uploaded onto every
single platform and it's coming at you from every single angle,
(14:33):
and you just don't know what is right.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And there's no such thing as a cold hard factore like,
because you can say the sky is blue and someone
will have an argument like, oh, well, no, you just
think it's blue because it's how that's how your eyes
see it. So even the sky is blue, it's not
a fact.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I will open up sometimes in the morning and you
just hear about all this horrendous stuff going on in
Africa and Russia and Iran and Paistan, and it's really
overwhelming and you feel completely helpless as an individual. You're
taking it all in and then you have to go
downstairs and make lunchboxes and be all cheering and like,
come on, kids, like be happy about life. Even though
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apparently World War three is imminent.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
We weren't meant to live like this, so humans haven't
evolved to know. We shouldn't be knowing what's going on
the other side of the world and people are being slaughtered,
and we are meant to live in villages and sort
of maybe have contact with the next village over. And
that's about it. And any burden we have emotionally is
things that we can actually control, whereas now we're taking
(15:35):
on these burdens and these pictures of you know, dead
children and horrible things that we can't do anything about,
but we just have to wear that.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
It can really consume you.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Mental health, kid's mental health, you know, depression, anxiety, it's
all through the roof. I mean, this would be a
massive part of why.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Even I know people who have gone down you know,
certain spirals and like you pause on something for five
seconds longer and boom, that's what your algorithms feeding you.
And then all of a sudden, you are very much
in this column. You are you're wanting to march through
streets to do stuff about it. Nothing's going to get
done about it. And I'm not saying that like you
want to turn a blind eye and you shouldn't speak
(16:18):
up on it. But how do you even know what
the pathway that you've gone down is? Right? You don't.
No one knows the truth anymore.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
And you're asked to pick a side on everything these
days as well. I mean politics wise, there's left and
right have never been so divided and angry and against
each other. And I know everyone, let you know, oh,
how have you not spoken out about Israel and exactly?
And then someone will go, well have you not spoken
out about Palestine exactly? And he said, well, I read
(16:47):
this was happening in Palestine, and then then they said
it wasn't happening.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
How do you want me to have an opinion on
something when I have no idea what's really going on?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
That's exactly right. And it's it's so hard to digest
everything that you were fed and then get on with
your life. That's the part that I struggle with. I
feel like there is just far too much in animation.
Don't even get me started on AI crap either, because
when that's being fed into these platforms, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Going to get scary because you can't tell the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You cannot tell the difference, do you know what?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Just just take it from me. Just get all your
news and your opinions from celebrities on Twitter. Just whatever
they say.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Just go.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, that's what James Woods seems like.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
A smart ignorance is bliss. Guys, turn off the news
and just live in the village surrounding you and there
if there's issues you can help.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
That sounds nice. Actually, my blood pressure I just felt
it drop. I just pictured a veggie garden. Yes, just living.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Lady over there, cars broken down. You can go over
and help her. And that's what we're meant.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
To be Doings. Had quite a week, have you? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I must be to you want to hear about it?
Working two days a week, Yeah, tell.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Me I love work. This is a break coming in
and talk to you.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
The other day. No parenting, Oh yeah, that is a
tough job.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So Oscar, my five year old is in KINDI and
I don't know if any of your kids have had
this where they have sort of the class pet or
mascot Yeah, like a plush toys. It's a stuff toy.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, we had it in pre school.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, and they each kid has to take the pet
mascot thing home for a week. For a week, look
after it and take photos everywhere, and take it everywhere.
It does what you do.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's funny that you say that. I remember when Kobe
got it in preschool and I actually wrote to their
educators and said, I already have three kids. I do
not need to take ownership over something else, even for
a week.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Get them a tamagotchi or something, and they get them nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Don't send any more things home.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Well, Shuffles the Penguin came home. We got to meet
Shuffles and lovely penguin as far as they go. He
was very nice. But of course we didn't really do
anything do anything with it.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You got to take photos and put it in a book, right,
and write about the word.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yes, so Shuffles Diary comes with you and you look
through at what all the other kids and parents have
done with Shuffles the penguin and you go, oh my god,
they've gone all this effort, you know, jeez, And Oscar
reminds us Shuffles has to go back tomorrow and you're like,
oh God, so like running around doing all these photos
with him, took him to swimming, But Oscar's got the
same shirt on in every photo with Shuffles, so it's
(19:24):
a bit of a given.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I f that's pretty normal.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
We still didn't have enough. So even then on the Monday,
Oscar was at school, I was at home alone with Shuffles,
and I had the job of getting some extra photos.
So I thought, no, I'll go all out. I've got time.
So I took Shuffles up to the shops. I took
him on the bar.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
By wait, a grown man carrying a stuffed penguin.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Well, I had him in my backpack. I had him hidden,
but then just got him out for some photos.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Well, did you ask people to be like, can you
take your photo of me?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
No, I wasn't in them. I would just like put
Shuffles on like a bus seat and take a photo.
And so then you put him in amongst the photos
with Oscar and it looks like so this is it
was with him.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
So when I'm doing my other jobs and everyone else's
at work, You're gallivanting around the city with a stuffed
toy taking photos. For your kindergarten kid.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
This is what I did, and it's the ADHD. You
know it. Once you start doing something, you get a
bit fixated. And so got home. Georgie was going to
print off all the photos that I took of Shuffles
at work and bring them home because she's got fancy
printer at work. So I sent all the photo through
do her and went, how good's this? Right? She rings
(20:37):
me straight away and goes, I don't know how to
tell you this. That's not Shuffles. I said, you've taken
that wrong toy. She goes, that's another stuffed penguin that
we had at home, and I'm like, how many penguins
(20:57):
are you serious? We already had one. I had gone
around everywhere taking photos of a penguin we already had
that looks completely different to Shuffles.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
By the way, Wow, that's that's a solid ending to all.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
That hard work down the drain. Ye Shuffles, we hate,
go back to Antarctica. What's the big issue in the
Facebook mums groups? What have we got?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Mum's written in saying Hi mums, just wondering has anyone
flown long haul business class with a baby. My husband
and I have always flown that way to Europe hard
flex and plan to do so with our six month old.
We know it's not going to be a popular decision
with other passengers. Here's my favorite part. We obviously know
(21:45):
that babies cry, but our baby is a very loud crier.
Oh we're not expecting a perfectly smooth ride, but just
wondering if others have done it, and is it okay
to do so?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Big issue? Okay, I mean, what.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Is a loud crier? Baby's loud, especially when you're in
confined spaces like an aeroplane.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I've only flown business class once.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
I have my flying business class once.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
And I would be furious if a baby was.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well because there is such a large difference in price.
I think when you're in economy, you just got to
wear it, take it on the chin. Babies need to
fly as well. We were all babies once. We probably
all cried and just get over it. Right.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Economy is trash and you know that, you.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Know when I mean, that's how we always fly. No
one wants to sit next to a crying baby, right,
But I absolutely empathize with mothers because no mum also
wants to have a crying baby with her, and so
as a mom myself, you know how stressful that situation is.
So I always try and get up and help. But
would I be annoyed if I had paid a lot
(22:57):
of money to fly business and there was a loud,
trying baby next to me? Probably?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Well, what's business to Europe? It's about fifteen grand each
way or something?
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Isn't nic It surely is. No, I don't think it's
that much. It's about six seven each way.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Maybe that's with points.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
We are not visuals, we are business. But look the
whole crying baby on a plane thing. I think it
is a very it's a bit dated that because you've
got everyone's got EarPods. Yeah, and particularly in business, they
give you the good Bose noise canceling headphones. So I
think you're going to be it'd be annoying if you
were like with your partner on honeymoon and you wanted
(23:36):
to chat and everything. But I think if the baby
was crying, I reckon you'd whack on the boats headphones
and watch Oppenheimer and have.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
A few champagnes. You know what, after seven champagnes, you
probably won't even hear the baby.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Drinking does solve everything and create a lot of problems.
It's the solution and cause of all of life's problems.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But also, if you're flying business and there's a crying
baby next to you, I mean there's there's bigger issues
in the world.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Right, Yeah, you're in business, so you're still in business.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
You're still in business next to a crying baby. It
could be worse. It could be an economy next to
a crying baby.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Order another champagne, put your flat and crank on the bows, headphones. Amen,
you'll be right. Yeah, get over yourself. God, I don't
want to fly business again. It was so good. Yes,
it was annoying. Georgie. There's the screen that you can
put up and down in between the scenes. I'd ask
her all the way I go these questions. I go, hey, Georgie,
(24:33):
tell me who was your favorite character in Friends and why?
And she'd go, well, Chandler was great. I'd just go
and like, just put the screen up while she's talking.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Got so annoying.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Must have done that twenty times.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
She fell for it every time, got.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Her every time. Yeah, but it's and Yang. You know,
you have one smart person in the relationship.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Georgie is a smart one.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yep, yeah, that's what I was saying, Chris Youd, I
told you we had coming up the secret to a
lasting marriage, and this is.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It's really simple, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Surprisingly? Yeah, from a heart professor who has been studying
love for over twenty years, for over twenty years at Harvard.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What does studying love even look like?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Just sleeping with his students? How's that cure for cancer
coming over? Why don't we get back to that?
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Professor Brooks has revealed that the goal of your marriage
is not passion, it's friendship. You must be close friends,
ideally best friends with your spouse.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That's sort of common sense, right, common sense?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
My wife's my best friend.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, well, I don't think that you need to be
best friends. Like my best friend is my mom, not
my husband. He's a good maid of mine, sure, old mate,
But my mom is my best friend. And then my
girlfriends are my best friends. Like that's who I bitch
about my husband too. But we do have a friendship.
And I do agree with it that you need to
(26:03):
have a solid foundation and you do need to be
friends because I think eventually when your kids leave. If
you guys don't get along or have any common interest,
well then what do you have?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Well, then it becomes companionship. Yeah, there's no friendship there
because the passion. He says, it's not about passion. Passion's
going to not I don't want to say die, but
it fizzle allowed as you get older. I mean, as
if you know your parents are still going strong, but
I doubt they're jumping in the sack a few times
a week.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Oh no, they're not. They're still pretty active though. Good
for them. I have asked big be the question not
as frequently.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Asked your dad that Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
We're a pretty open family. It was very joky, jokey,
and I said, oh, you know, do do the oldies
still you know, get like busy with it? He was like, oh, oh,
we used to do, but you know we still give
it a good nudge. And I was like, wait, what
how like once a week or once a month. It's
still once a month.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I was going to say, please, don't tell me your
parents have more sex than I. Yes, they do, they
do well.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I will say this, My parents have been married for
forty four years. They still do this. Every time they
come up. They take their deck chair and they go
down to the back of the yard and they will
sit there sometimes for three four hours in summer, obviously
a lot longer in winter, maybe one or two hours,
and they sit down there without their phones, and they
just talk to each other and then he right. And
(27:24):
I remember one time going down there with Ryan because
I was like, Oh, let's go down the backyard. And
we sat there and we're like twiddling our thumb and
I was like, don't reach for your phone. Don't reach
for your phone. Don't reach for your phone. And then
I said to Ryan, how do my mom and dad
sit What do they talk about for four hours?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Are they talking about the news? Do they read the
paper and then bounce stories off each other?
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I do think they are quite comfortable in each other's silences,
So I do think there's moments of just sitting in
in silence.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
How many bottles of wine are they going through it?
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, they go through a few, so that obviously helps.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
That lubricates the compensations.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, but I do think that there is something to that.
But I do wonder if our generation lacks that.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
The phones don't help, do they.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
They really don't. We try to go out for dinner, though,
and when we go out for dinner, we try like
we never put bring our phones out.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Do you talk about the kids? I find when I
sit down with Georgie, we go out, when we're on holidays,
we have some time alone, we end up just talking
about Henry and Oscar.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
No. I mean yes to some extent, but we often
will try to talk about things that are exciting, things
that are coming up in our lives. He likes to
unpack a lot from work, and I like to pretend
I'm listening.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Is he interested in radio? Like when you come home
and does he go, how is the show? Or what
did you talk about? Or does he glaze over when
you go this is what we did on kiss?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
He glazes over for sure.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What does he listen to? Does he listen to the radio?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
No? He makes work calls fun.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He's that guy in sales. In sales sounds exciting. How
was your day? Ryan?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
But hang on it says here one of the most
important things for a happy life is a partnership with
somebody who'll be the last person who set eyes on
as you take your last dying.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Breath, your last dying breath, what is there standing over
you with a pillowod.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
I still think at the end of the day, it
very much just becomes about companionship. Yes, like you need
someone to wipe your barm and put your nappy on
as you get old.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I do know. I don't know him well, but I
know a guy whose wife had a fall and broke
both of her wrists, so he was wiping her backside
for her for like three months. Well that's love, love.
We didn't need a Harvard professor for that one. Chris
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