June 20, 2025 • 32 mins
Amy’s Skin Check Doctor Complaint
Gen Muir – Screen Time Rules For Kids
Cyber Bullying
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, let's go. Let's good morning that remains to
be seen. Chris Page and Amy's good morning? Ever our body?
Welcome back? Happy Saturday?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
How are you going? Pork chop? You're good?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Don't you use porkshop?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Is mine trademarked?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Walko?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Have you put money in the meat of the maggots
are out today?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Oh? No?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Are they really the.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Parking rangers, parking inspectors? Yeah, they're out there downstairs. No,
I have not losers, And so you just park and
don't put money in the meet?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No I do.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It's not a speeding ticket. Your boobs aren't going to
get you out of this one, sweetie.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I normally would put everything in a meter, but now
everything's electronic, so you do it via an app. Well,
and that's where I forget. I've actually got a fine
in the mail for a parking being over or not
putting enough money on the bloody app. But I don't know, man,
who are these people who are the no who thinks
(01:24):
when they finish school and their parents or people say,
what do you want to be?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
When you grow up and they go, I want to
be a parking ranger.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, and ruin everyone's day.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know what is that? Kid?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Go?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I want to be either a parking inspector or a policeman,
or an NRL referee or an afl umpire. I want
to be the boss of something.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well you just yeah, it's big d energy because you
probably have a small one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
They would have been bullied at school parking inspectors, and
I don't want to make light of bullying, but I
think they want to be They walk around, they're peacocking,
they've got their chest out.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I wonder if it's a high paying job. It want
to be right.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Surely people surely people hurl abuse at them as they're driving.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, I'm guilty.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I don't like to get too aggressive towards him.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I have like run towards the car, runs and gone
please please please.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know I'm just a couple of minutes later.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And he's just stood there and ridden out a ticket
in front of me, and I'm like, you fuck.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
When you can tell they're enjoying it, I think that's
the that's It's not about the money at that point.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Anyway, I need to jump on this SAP right now?
Can I do that?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Do your parking?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So I went into a clinic over the week and
I had.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
My skin clear. No, all right, I want to.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Know, have you ever had your skin checked?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, but I've got to go and do it again.
I reckon it's been ten years at least. Really Yeah,
like the dentist, it's on my list.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I found this new clinic because I actually had a
really creepy experience once having my skin checked by this
older man doctor. He wasn't my normal doctor.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
When you do go and get a full body skin check,
they tend to ask you to get down to your
underas and you put your white gown on and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And most doctors they're quite respectable.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
And they asked you to, you know, pop your arm
out and pull a strap down, and they're quite thorough.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They do like a bit at a time, and they're
totally exposed.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Like you're nude on a more bed.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, but I had this one doctor, this was about
nine months ago.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'd never gone for a skin check by him before.
And older man. I'm not even gonna say what nationality
because that's irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Could have been anything that's right.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And he was doing my skin check. And now his defense,
I don't know why I'm defending him.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
He did say to me, you know, what's your You know,
did you go in the sun a lot as a kid?
And I said yes, and I did go to slariums.
And he was quick, did you go in nude? And
I said yeah, I did occasionally. And he goes, okay,
well take your bra off and take your underwear off,
and I said, okay, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well it's a full body skin check.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And he's a doctor, that is right, And I have
her that some doctors are very diligent in that way,
and they check every single inch of your body and
your skin. And so I kind of went about my
business and stripped off.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So his bedside manner so far wasn't. It was just
like get naked.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It was fine, it was it was a bit blunt whatnot.
And it was fine until he made me sit up.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And then he started asking me about my breasts and
yeah started asking me obviously, oh you know they.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Went like skin skin on your breath.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
No, No, asked if they were real or if they
and I'd had an augmentation.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I said, oh, you know, the ladder.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh, just kept commenting about how natural they look, and
then the nice shape, and I was like, wow, I
feel so incredibly uncomfortable right now, not flooded. I was
butt naked.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Sorry I shouldn't you. That's a that's a really inapproach.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
He was asking in a nice way, but it was
still so inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What on earth does my breast.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Augmentation have to do with you doing a thorough skin
check on me?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know what? He I reckon in his head, not
defending him, but he's going, well, I'm a doctor, and
a boob job is a medical procedure.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
No, it's not a medical procedure that I've chosen to do.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's medical.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's not medical.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It involved a scalpel and things happening. It's medical. So
he's thinking, well, I'm a doctor, so I'm asking about
something that you've had. But you were there for a
skin check. So he's a dermatologist, so.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I was there for a skin check. He's also a
lot older.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I would have been thirty seven nude on my own
in the room with him. It was highly inappropriate. I
told I told the staff there. I called the receptionist.
I got out of there quick smart, but I was like,
it's a bizarre abuse of power.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I feel like like I could have taken further.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I reckon I could of Anyway, The skin check today
was lovely done by a very lovely man who was
very professionality.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, we'll leave them all out because then it
sounds like you're bias one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Correct, but it was good, and let's use this segment
to remind everyone on air to get your skin check.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Get your skin checked everyone, and your boobs breast check
day is important as well, just not by the same dog.
Correct to get it done separately.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So, Chris, you know how you and I were chatting
last week about how screens are the devil. Yes, and
obviously you and I have five kids between.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Us, but they see us on our phones all the
time as well two.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But we kind of we're just stuck and we need help.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You promised me, an expert.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I promised you. I have delivered. I have the parenting
lord and educator and my co host of Beyond the Chaos,
Jen Mua. She is here in the studio to save us.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm here, guys, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Every parent is listening, is hanging off your every word.
Right now, I have no pressure and they are waiting
to hear what do we do with these screens?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, look, mama, for boys ranging from eight to fifteen here.
So if there is a parent that understands the pull
and the push of screens for modern parents, I have
been there, I've done it, I've felt it all, and
I think that it's really important that we start, first
of all, with a bit of self compassion, because we
are the first generation that is parenting in a world
(07:48):
that has this stuff in it. And it's not enough
to just say, oh, well, let's just ban all screens, right,
that doesn't work. I mean kids are being given screens
in primary school as young as kindergartens.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
My kids are given their own laptop or iPad for
homework and for their schoolwork.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So this is part of our kids world.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And even if you've not done any screens until that point,
this is going to be something that all parents are
going to juggle. The thing to know is that screens
are They're dopamine inducing, their addictive, and they're not all bad.
I'm not here to say we need to throw all
devices in the pool. They're not all bad, but it's
sort of understanding that for a child's brain that is forming,
that struggles to regulate their emotions at the best of times,
(08:29):
coming off screens or not getting screens will have our
kids showing the worst of the behaviors that we see
simply because their brains are not equipped to cope with
the ups and downs of screens. And also when we
turn off a screen abruptly, the dopamine dropping kids is
so massive that we will see behavior that's kind of
uncharacteristic or really difficult. I think the biggest, single, biggest
(08:50):
thing we can do as parents, if there was one tip,
get it really clear in your head that you own
the devices. Your kids don't own devices. You're allowed to
turn around as a parent and go, hey, this is
my job to keep you safe for a really long
time while your brain is growing. And so what I
want you to know is that the screens belong to
Mum and dad, and the kids get to use them
(09:12):
under the conditions that we set. So we define when,
where and how screens get used, and we will help
you stick to those limits even when you're struggling.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That makes so much sense because the TV at home
we don't have the same issues because there's no question
that that's Dad's TV. I bought that TV. Yeah, and
that's defined. So when I go, hey, Bluey's going off,
the football is about to start, there's no argument or
they think they own the eye.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That's exactly that's you'll start to see that for some kids,
certain shows, certain apps, certain programs are not good for them.
And so you're allowed to have some screens and like
Bluey is awesome, right.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
No kid goes bad on Bluey.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Some YouTube shorts and some games will make your kid
a little bit crazy, and you might sit down and go,
you know what, I've noticed when you play Fortnite, you
are really struggling after yea, And so we're going to
have a think about that. It's not a no forever,
but we might kind of avoid that game that kind.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Of doesn't work for you.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
It kind of gets you really worked up, and we're
going to do the things that do work. We decided
no screens through the week because it was just not
worth the fight. But you might decide even for your teenagers,
no screens in bedrooms after ten because one of the
biggest times a kid will make a mistake on a
device is around ten PM.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Because that's when.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Their ability to regulate through the decision making drops. We
leave them alone with the whole internet, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It just it terrifies me.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I remember you were saying, you know, you wouldn't let
your kid go out into the city on their own,
so why would you give them the internet and give
them free rein?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But I'm still getting on with my life. I'm still
cooking and washing and doing all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I actually have.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No idea what they're playing, Like, I know they're on Roadblocks,
the boys, but I'm like, what is it that you're
actually watching? Are you communicating with someone? Like I thought
I had taken off all the chat features and I
Bobby came up to me the other day and said, Mom,
I'm banned on Roadblocks and it's.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Because he's done some swearing.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I was like, shame on you.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So look, there's things you want to put in place
that are really sensible, like you know, I love a
screen contract for kids. You also want to do things
like I have a locked box, so our kid's device
is going a locked box, and I've got.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The code that helps.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And then screen controls, which are a nightmare to set up,
because it's different on every screen. But we've got to
take the time and if you don't know how to
do it, hire someone and get it done right. And
make sure that your kid is on roadblocks and identified
as a kid so they don't have adult settings, little
things like that. But then from there, my belief is
you cannot protect your kids from anything in the whole world,
either online or in real life. And so there are
(11:44):
a couple of really key conversations that you want to
be having with your kids over and over again, and
one of them is, do you know there's nothing you
could ever tell me that you saw or did online
or in real life that would make me love you less.
And I'm always here and on your team no matter
what's happened, So that if your kid does make a
mistake and they say something nasty to someone in a WhatsApp.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Group, or if your kid does allow.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Our friend requests in roadblocks, or whatever happens, the biggest
protective thing for our kids is that they can come
to us and we will help them sort it out.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I know that's one of the concerns around Elbows under
sixteen's blanket ban for social media is that kids under
sixteen will still get on it, and they will then
be less likely to come to mum and dad because
you know that they think they've broken the law in
the already already in trouble doing the wrong thing. As
a parenting expert, are you in favor of the blanket
(12:39):
ban of socials for under sixteens?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I am in favor of it. I think that on
the whole, if we can as a society support parents
to hold off that little bit longer, kids' brains will
be that little bit more mature. It's going to collectively help. Yes,
kids will get around anything. But again I think you
can say, look not for us right now with social media,
there's a law in place, and in our family, we're
going to sort of stick with that. You can put
(13:03):
things in place, like having a rule like you're allowed
a phone at fourteen, but you may not download any
opp without asking, and if you do download an app,
we'll have to give the phone a rest in the
study and kind of I'll have a tighter rein on.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It until we build that trust back up. Bring back
the ninety two tens. I say I want to give
my well phones.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Have NOCKI and not done this and relaunched.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
So truly. I have four boys.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
My oldest two kids got a phone in year five
because that's what everybody did. They were getting on a
bus to travel to school, and so I gave them
a phone.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And he's got an old Noki out.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, so we can play Snake.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
He's only got Snake and you'll buy them. And it's
so good.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It does a little bit better predictive text than it
did in nineteen ninety nine or whenever I had mine.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It is so good.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
He's got no internet, and you know, I think that
it's a great solution. He can call and text his friends,
he can call us if he needs.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Us to play Snake. It's safe and that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And battery life.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He gets a full week.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Steve Jobs can burn in hell. We're going to be
a knockier family from here.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
There have been some really great ticks in there. They're
really practical things that we can actually put in place.
So that is so good to know.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Jen Muir, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And you guys your podcast with my friend Amy here
as well.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Beyond the Chaos. It's a fantastic parenting podcast. If you listen,
you will feel very, very seen. You'll feel less alone,
and you'll probably have.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
A bit of a chuckle.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Check it out, Jen, Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Chris, So you may or may not have seen the
news this week. You're probably not across it as much
as people like myself any war. No, we're not talking
about the potential World War three. Talking about a social
media girlfriend of mine.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Her name is Indy Clinton.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now, she's one TikToker of the year, but she's also
huge on Instagram, and she's come out recently this week
actually saying that she has spent her hard earned money
and she has now received a sixty four page dossier
on all of the trolls that she has been dealing with. Now,
(15:09):
she she has been copying online bullying, cyber bullying, dosing
from these faceless, anonymous trolls for a couple.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Of months now.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So she chose to have a nose job.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, oh I did I saw this headliner.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, she chosen to have a nose job, and the
Internet has decided that they don't like it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It was botched according to the Internet.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And Indy has actually come out and she said, I'm
getting this this surgery done. I had an incident with
a surfboard when I was younger, and she's got a
lump there, so she's doing it something for herself. She
fronted up, she was honest. She didn't try and hide
it like these celebrities do. And the Internet has decided
that it's disgusting and it looks awful, and the trolling
(15:52):
on her towards her and her family and her life
choices has been absolutely relentless.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Hang on one secon though. You said celebrities and like
a negative thing about the celebrities. Oh, they try to
hide it. Well, they just disappear. Yeah, it's called so
if they want to get a nose job, they go
and do it in private. She has chosen to tell
the whole world that I'm getting a nose job and
then share the results of that nose job. And then
so people have come back. I mean, I'm not saying
(16:24):
it's okay to be horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean I'm not saying that people aren't allowed to
have an opinion on it. Okay, absolutely have an opinion
on it, and if you think it looks silly, have
a chat to you.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Made about it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But writing to her and telling her, just calling her
every name, under the sun and then bringing her children
into it. That is absolutely not accepting.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, that's over the top. But it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Saying parking ranges, right, they've chosen to be parking ranges.
Does that mean that you're allowed to walk past them
and hurl abuse in the direction? Yes, no, you are
not chrity.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'd do it on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, and you're lucky that you don't get busted.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't attack their children. And yeah, there's a but
that you have to admit that there is a level
of when you decide to make a living by sharing
your life and sharing your whole life on social media,
that's going to be a downside of it. You have
to accept.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Thattely, and I think most people in this space absolutely
accept it. I also share my life on social media.
But what I don't think we have to accept is
cyberbullying and doxing and trolling, Like cyberbullying is a crime.
But all these women predominantly women, And the saddest thing
is a lot of the findings that she's come across
(17:37):
are from mums, So women with children is a side
of venting thing.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Do you think do they just need to get something
out of their system. So they just get online and
abuse someone. But you know what, is it therapeutic? No?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But they're just so gutless, Like if you want to
have your peace, say it with your face and front
up with your identity. But what they do is they
hide behind these anonymous accounts. And I think if one thing,
I mean, so much good stuff has come from her
spending her hard earned cash, Cooks, I know it wasn't cheap.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It's that you aren't anonymous. There is a will in
a way.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
And you've got the finances you can uncover people who
want to incessantly troll you. It's a big wake up
call for all these miserable women who just want to
attack somebody over what she has chosen to do to
her own body.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I'm going to stick up for women for one moment
and say, I know there are a lot of male
trolls out there as well. I these miserable women out there, Now,
you're the one that's going to get complaints for a change.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I'm working on her.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So a private investigator has found these people found out
everything about.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Every single like down to where they gave birth to
their children, down to their ABN numbers and She hasn't
publicly named and shamed anyone, but she is taking I
think two or three of them to court.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Because certain things are welly harassment, threats and.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Post someone's address, Yeah exactly, but also cyberbulling. So just constant,
relentless harassment and just being an asshole basically.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Oh really, yeah, So I need to leave Abby Chatfield alone. Yes,
I'm joking. I'm joking. I did not even follow that account.
You just asked me if i'd been watching the news
during the week, yes, and I said, yeah, what about
the war? And you're not talking about some social media
(19:31):
influences a nose job. Well, I've got some news for you,
news dot com, dot a unius. So people have been
outraged because they've found out a secret ingredient in Worcestershear sauce.
I had worcestershare to my body. Don't enjoy worcestershar sauce
at all, or there may be a reason for that
because one of the ingredients in it. People were shocked
(19:52):
to find out is anchovies.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh that makes so I hate anchovies too.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I hate anchovies, but I do you love I like
worcestershar sauce. So obviously there's not many anchovies.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Actually does give me a chance to share one of
my favorite jokes of all time with you and everyone,
of course, was on the rad which is great. Hello Toby, Yes, Toby,
I have a joke. Yes, what's the funniest smelling thing
in the whole wild world?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The funniest smelling thing in the whole wide world? Kept
your nose? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What was it? An anchovy?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Never call us again?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Play never in your life? Toby grow up and you
could tell as soon as you could hear his voice.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
That I have a joke. Yeah. Sure, Sorry for the diversion.
I hope it was worth it.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You were just dying to play that joke.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I just hear the word anchovy and I laughed. So okay.
Some other things that you might eat and drink that
contain some weird stuff. Sure, chocolate milk. You'll never look
at the same mode.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No, don't tell me I love chocolate milk.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'm going to ruin chocolate milk for you.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Hit me.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Seaweed what they use a type of red seaweed in
chocolate milk. It's ground down into a powder and it
helps the other ingredients in it bind together without actually
adding any more calories.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Who thought I'm going to find some red seaweed and
grind it down into a powder?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
A sick mind?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
All right, what else you got?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The first person who ever eat an oyster would have
been pretty sick as well. I would think, yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Look at those tiny rocks attached to a large rock.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Let's cut it off and eat.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The and look at it. It's good. I'm going to
eat it, and.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I love oysters. But he doesn't actually make any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, to eat one. First, weird toothpaste? You have lovely
teeth clean? What's in your toothpaste? Though? Rocks? Rocks? A
brittle white rock called gypsum is a key ingredient. It
has a settling effect on liquids and has calcium in it,
(21:56):
so it's all foot it's good for the teeth in it.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, gypsum. It's literally like chip rock. You know that
they make houses out of. Well yeah, okay, else, and
it's interesting if you like your grated cheese or.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So, Now that is one thing I don't eat. Never
buy cheese that's already grated, because there's some some sort
of ingredient to preserve the cheese in that shred that
is very bad for you.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Really, well, that adds another layer to it because the
ingredient I've heard about is a cost cutting measure saw dust.
Cheese companies in America got busted putting up to ten
percent saw dust in their cheese before breaking it down
and grating it up. And apparently grated cheese isn't the
only thing saw dust is commonly used to because it's
(22:48):
like cheese stuff up. Yeah, we get free saw dust
from any mill I suppose, Oh my god, whack it
in the food to So it's like cocaine dealers. Yeah,
they're not going to sell you pure cocaine, are they.
It's like, this is the grated cheese people. They're like
coke dealers. They're cutting it with saw dust. Yeah, and
that is.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So we're eating like walls of houses and stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Wood in your cheese. Okay, that sounds dirty. Now that's
cheese in your wood. Okay. Mushrooms. Mushrooms what an ingredient
so much, but just something you should know. Maggots. Twenty
or more maggots per one hundred grams of mushrooms is
too many and you'll get in trouble. The mushroom. People
(23:32):
will get in trouble if there's more than twenty maggots
per hundred grams of mushroom.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So they put the maggots in with the mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, the maggots are in the mushrooms because they.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Grow underneath the ground.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So oh, so they leave twenty in.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And go, well, they don't count them and go, yeah, okay,
there's nineteen. These ones are ready to ship. I guess
this is why people use pesticides. Yeah, I think. So
you can go organic if you want. The maggots will
still be there.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And this is why I cut up my mushrooms very
thinly and I fry them before eating them.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
All right, hope you learn something everyone.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Highly educational.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Amy came in one day a while ago and goes,
let me tell you what my dumb husband Ryan's done,
blah blah blah. Then it happened again the week after
week after that, and we went, you know what, let's
make it come the crap and make it a segment
and give it an intro. Thank you to Nickelback for
recording it for us as well.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh, Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sound creed.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
This one's more like just what is Ryan trying for.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Oh my god, it's god. He's getting in trouble now
for stuff he hasn't even done. It is Minority Report,
that movie. They arrest you for crimes you haven't done
because you thought about them.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Excuse me, it is merely me just discussing a topic
with you. Obviously, I'm just wanting your feedback. I mean,
I know you're usually in his corner.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I try.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So we live in a street and we're all very
friendly with all of our neighbors. Now across the street.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now we're not swingers across the street.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
The husband has just bought himself a very nice MN
I add, looking brand new Harley Davidson.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And then next to him, Jim, he also has a huge, very.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Loud Harley Davidson of some sort.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right now, My husband Ryan, when we first met, he
actually had a motorbike. He's ridden motorbikes his whole life.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
When you were dating, like you know, young and dating,
did you jump on the back of this motor bike? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Absolutely, and it was good.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It's you know, it was nice.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We would ride down to the beat. But our friends
across the road having gotten a Harley. It's just sparked
something in him, and he's like, I'm getting a Harley.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'm getting Harley.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
He came upstairs yet, and he goes, I'm getting a Harley.
I said, over my dead body, are you and he goes, no,
he goes, I'm not asking. I'm not asking. I'm just
letting you know. And I said, Ryan, you have a car.
He drives a good hour and a bit to work
every day and then back and his car is on
its last legs. Like, I'm pretty sure. His mechanic was like, mate,
(26:20):
time to look for a new car.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And I said, if you think that you're getting a
Harley before you get yourself a new car, like, you're
absolutely dreaming.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And then I also want to.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Landscape our back and front yard and then you can
get a Harley. Also, you're you're at least eight years
off a midlife crisis.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's forty two, right, Yes, I'm forty two.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Let me tell you there. Yeah, oh you're gonna buy Harley.
I'm not gonna buy a Harley. But there's Crisises come
in many different shapes.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And forms, different different ages.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, everyone hits it differently. Yeah, it's about there.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I just think that there is a few other things
that we want that we need to do as a
family before we start throwing out silly sums of money
for just you know, our little hobbies.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Sometimes you just got to treat yourself though, if you
know you only buy what you.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Need, maybe I'll just go and treat myself.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, I wasn't going to bring it up last week.
You did show me the new diamond necklace, you thought yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yes, I did from a whole sailing sale and I
got it. Like seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Of the diamond was a necklace.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
It was a pair of earrings.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Sorry, diamond ear rings, yes, And I mean they was discounted,
so it would have been stupid not to buy.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Them heavily discount.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But he can't get a motorbike.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
His motorbike is astronomically higher than the ear rings that
I purchased.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, yeah, but the earrings.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
But what you got nothing?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You're clutching its straws.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The earrings don't serve a purpose. They don't do from
what do they do?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
They do?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
There are a beautiful set of earrings that I'll be
able to pass down to my daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, he can pass the Harley onto your son's.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No, my sons aren't riding motorbikes.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Earrings look good, bikes look cool bikes.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Get you killed?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, I bet I'll google it or AI or something.
I bet earrings have killed someone at some point. Sorry, Ryan,
I tried always do my best. Buddy Chris, almost time
(28:31):
for us to get out of here. But Zuckerberg or
Kuckerberg and Lizard, yeah him personally. He was sitting there
at Meta headquarters and went, Chris Page from Australia, you're
gone if you missed it. I was using the story
feature on Instagram as a photo shop to what were
you doing, Chris? I was putting phalluses on my friend's faces.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And then sending.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I didn't post them on Instagram. But Instagram does have
some kind of feature where it can I identify shapes
of certain things and it goes, oh, that's nudity.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
And you've got multiple warnings.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I've got a couple of hundred warnings saying that we've
taken that down.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Are you ignored?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
But they didn't say we're going to delete your account?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But a warning is a warning.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Most workplaces give you three.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
How many we had here?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I don't know how many.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Sorry, how have you had?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh sorry, yeah, someone complained about Amy for a change.
Please anyway, So I'm back last week.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yep, we relaunched with a very sad video.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
People were very confused at the start. I thought it
was quite clever.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, you made it sound like I was dying or something.
Chris has a problem. You've got to listen to this. Yeah,
but I'm fine, just my Insta.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Let me ask you, did you actually gain any followers
from that?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, I relaunched the account. We announced it on air
and yeah it blew up.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, where are you at now?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I'm almost at five five thousand, five hundred five followers.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
You know what you have?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Is that not good?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yet?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Here's where I think you've gone wrong. You've launched with
a new account with a creepy looking display pick doing
the peace sign like your twelve. But then you've got
no photos, so you don't have a single photo.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So what people want.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
To just share that kiss video?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah? So now the only thing that's on your account
is a video, and it's me as the front cover,
So you've got.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
To be fair. That was the only thing on my
old account as well. It was just the kiss video.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The kiss videos yeah. So I feel like you need.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
To do your first post.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Okay, okay, all right, now.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I will do all right, right now, what would you
like me to post?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Maybe a family photo?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I can do that.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I've got maybe one of your wife and.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yes, just so people know that you're a family.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Guy, big smiling, happy family Yeah. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
got one? Yeah, nice one. There you go. So it's
the birthday cake.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Oh nice?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's what we want.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And then maybe follow it up with another one tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't want to bombard people.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well no, people like consistency, so you got to lure
them in.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Do I write a caption? Is this a story or
a post post? It's a post? Hang on?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Maybe you can write.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Something like the family there with the birthday cake? What
am I writing?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
My heart living on the outside of me?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Really, my heart living on the outside of me? Should
I write that?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Double?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Okay? Yeah, I'm doing it. My heart living on the
outside of me? Yeah okay.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Or you could just write something even corneo right than that?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, right, my purpose, I've already written my heart living
on the outside of me.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Heart emoji, Yeah, definitely a heart emoji. Eggplant and then no,
no egg for the wife and kids. Hashtag my purpose,
hashtag my purpose, no.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Space in between my purpose.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Okay, all right, get it up there scent no who
post or sent to theost?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Well, yeah, but you don't.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Scent like means that you're sending it to someone just
post posted.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah good, there you go, at a boy.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm gonna like that quick. Someone liked it.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
And then you get a little dopamine here.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You get excited and your social media starts to then
slowly ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What God, another unverified person? It's someone famous like that?
Please someone interesting?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Who would you like? Billy Slater?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Billy doesn't follow me? The grub? Yeah, oh no, you're
not allowed to call Billy Slater a grub on the radio?
Are you you get in trouble? Okay, we're gonna get
out of here, yes, and we'll be back tomorrow morning
at eight o'clock. We will do it all again.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I'll see you in the morning.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay, Bye bye bye. Chris and Amy girards
My Heart podcasts, hear more kiss podcasts, playlists, and listen
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, let's go. Let's good morning that remains to
be seen. Chris Page and Amy's good morning? Ever our body?
Welcome back? Happy Saturday?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
How are you going? Pork chop? You're good?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Don't you use porkshop?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Is mine trademarked?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Walko?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Have you put money in the meat of the maggots
are out today?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Oh? No?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Are they really the.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Parking rangers, parking inspectors? Yeah, they're out there downstairs. No,
I have not losers, And so you just park and
don't put money in the meet?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No I do.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It's not a speeding ticket. Your boobs aren't going to
get you out of this one, sweetie.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
I normally would put everything in a meter, but now
everything's electronic, so you do it via an app. Well,
and that's where I forget. I've actually got a fine
in the mail for a parking being over or not
putting enough money on the bloody app. But I don't know, man,
who are these people who are the no who thinks
(01:24):
when they finish school and their parents or people say,
what do you want to be?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
When you grow up and they go, I want to
be a parking ranger.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, and ruin everyone's day.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
You know what is that? Kid?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
Go?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I want to be either a parking inspector or a policeman,
or an NRL referee or an afl umpire. I want
to be the boss of something.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Well you just yeah, it's big d energy because you
probably have a small one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
They would have been bullied at school parking inspectors, and
I don't want to make light of bullying, but I
think they want to be They walk around, they're peacocking,
they've got their chest out.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I wonder if it's a high paying job. It want
to be right.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Surely people surely people hurl abuse at them as they're driving.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, I'm guilty.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I don't like to get too aggressive towards him.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I have like run towards the car, runs and gone
please please please.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know I'm just a couple of minutes later.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
And he's just stood there and ridden out a ticket
in front of me, and I'm like, you fuck.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
When you can tell they're enjoying it, I think that's
the that's It's not about the money at that point.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Anyway, I need to jump on this SAP right now?
Can I do that?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Do your parking?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
So I went into a clinic over the week and
I had.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
My skin clear. No, all right, I want to.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Know, have you ever had your skin checked?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, but I've got to go and do it again.
I reckon it's been ten years at least. Really Yeah,
like the dentist, it's on my list.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I found this new clinic because I actually had a
really creepy experience once having my skin checked by this
older man doctor. He wasn't my normal doctor.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Obviously.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
When you do go and get a full body skin check,
they tend to ask you to get down to your
underas and you put your white gown on and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And most doctors they're quite respectable.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
And they asked you to, you know, pop your arm
out and pull a strap down, and they're quite thorough.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
They do like a bit at a time, and they're
totally exposed.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Like you're nude on a more bed.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, but I had this one doctor, this was about
nine months ago.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
I'd never gone for a skin check by him before.
And older man. I'm not even gonna say what nationality
because that's irrelevant.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Could have been anything that's right.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
And he was doing my skin check. And now his defense,
I don't know why I'm defending him.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
He did say to me, you know, what's your You know,
did you go in the sun a lot as a kid?
And I said yes, and I did go to slariums.
And he was quick, did you go in nude? And
I said yeah, I did occasionally. And he goes, okay,
well take your bra off and take your underwear off,
and I said, okay, I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Well it's a full body skin check.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
And he's a doctor, that is right, And I have
her that some doctors are very diligent in that way,
and they check every single inch of your body and
your skin. And so I kind of went about my
business and stripped off.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So his bedside manner so far wasn't. It was just
like get naked.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It was fine, it was it was a bit blunt whatnot.
And it was fine until he made me sit up.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
And then he started asking me about my breasts and
yeah started asking me obviously, oh you know they.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Went like skin skin on your breath.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
No, No, asked if they were real or if they
and I'd had an augmentation.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I said, oh, you know, the ladder.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Oh, just kept commenting about how natural they look, and
then the nice shape, and I was like, wow, I
feel so incredibly uncomfortable right now, not flooded. I was
butt naked.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Sorry I shouldn't you. That's a that's a really inapproach.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
He was asking in a nice way, but it was
still so inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
What on earth does my breast.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Augmentation have to do with you doing a thorough skin
check on me?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know what? He I reckon in his head, not
defending him, but he's going, well, I'm a doctor, and
a boob job is a medical procedure.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
No, it's not a medical procedure that I've chosen to do.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It's medical.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
It's not medical.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
It involved a scalpel and things happening. It's medical. So
he's thinking, well, I'm a doctor, so I'm asking about
something that you've had. But you were there for a
skin check. So he's a dermatologist, so.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I was there for a skin check. He's also a
lot older.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I would have been thirty seven nude on my own
in the room with him. It was highly inappropriate. I
told I told the staff there. I called the receptionist.
I got out of there quick smart, but I was like,
it's a bizarre abuse of power.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
I feel like like I could have taken further.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I reckon I could of Anyway, The skin check today
was lovely done by a very lovely man who was
very professionality.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You know, we'll leave them all out because then it
sounds like you're bias one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Correct, but it was good, and let's use this segment
to remind everyone on air to get your skin check.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Get your skin checked everyone, and your boobs breast check
day is important as well, just not by the same dog.
Correct to get it done separately.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So, Chris, you know how you and I were chatting
last week about how screens are the devil. Yes, and
obviously you and I have five kids between.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Us, but they see us on our phones all the
time as well two.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But we kind of we're just stuck and we need help.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You promised me, an expert.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I promised you. I have delivered. I have the parenting
lord and educator and my co host of Beyond the Chaos,
Jen Mua. She is here in the studio to save us.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I'm here, guys, all right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Every parent is listening, is hanging off your every word.
Right now, I have no pressure and they are waiting
to hear what do we do with these screens?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, look, mama, for boys ranging from eight to fifteen here.
So if there is a parent that understands the pull
and the push of screens for modern parents, I have
been there, I've done it, I've felt it all, and
I think that it's really important that we start, first
of all, with a bit of self compassion, because we
are the first generation that is parenting in a world
(07:48):
that has this stuff in it. And it's not enough
to just say, oh, well, let's just ban all screens, right,
that doesn't work. I mean kids are being given screens
in primary school as young as kindergartens.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Right.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
My kids are given their own laptop or iPad for
homework and for their schoolwork.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So this is part of our kids world.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And even if you've not done any screens until that point,
this is going to be something that all parents are
going to juggle. The thing to know is that screens
are They're dopamine inducing, their addictive, and they're not all bad.
I'm not here to say we need to throw all
devices in the pool. They're not all bad, but it's
sort of understanding that for a child's brain that is forming,
that struggles to regulate their emotions at the best of times,
(08:29):
coming off screens or not getting screens will have our
kids showing the worst of the behaviors that we see
simply because their brains are not equipped to cope with
the ups and downs of screens. And also when we
turn off a screen abruptly, the dopamine dropping kids is
so massive that we will see behavior that's kind of
uncharacteristic or really difficult. I think the biggest, single, biggest
(08:50):
thing we can do as parents, if there was one tip,
get it really clear in your head that you own
the devices. Your kids don't own devices. You're allowed to
turn around as a parent and go, hey, this is
my job to keep you safe for a really long
time while your brain is growing. And so what I
want you to know is that the screens belong to
Mum and dad, and the kids get to use them
(09:12):
under the conditions that we set. So we define when,
where and how screens get used, and we will help
you stick to those limits even when you're struggling.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
That makes so much sense because the TV at home
we don't have the same issues because there's no question
that that's Dad's TV. I bought that TV. Yeah, and
that's defined. So when I go, hey, Bluey's going off,
the football is about to start, there's no argument or
they think they own the eye.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That's exactly that's you'll start to see that for some kids,
certain shows, certain apps, certain programs are not good for them.
And so you're allowed to have some screens and like
Bluey is awesome, right.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
No kid goes bad on Bluey.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Some YouTube shorts and some games will make your kid
a little bit crazy, and you might sit down and go,
you know what, I've noticed when you play Fortnite, you
are really struggling after yea, And so we're going to
have a think about that. It's not a no forever,
but we might kind of avoid that game that kind.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Of doesn't work for you.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
It kind of gets you really worked up, and we're
going to do the things that do work. We decided
no screens through the week because it was just not
worth the fight. But you might decide even for your teenagers,
no screens in bedrooms after ten because one of the
biggest times a kid will make a mistake on a
device is around ten PM.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Because that's when.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Their ability to regulate through the decision making drops. We
leave them alone with the whole internet, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It just it terrifies me.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I remember you were saying, you know, you wouldn't let
your kid go out into the city on their own,
so why would you give them the internet and give
them free rein?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Right?
Speaker 1 (10:43):
But I'm still getting on with my life. I'm still
cooking and washing and doing all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I actually have.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
No idea what they're playing, Like, I know they're on Roadblocks,
the boys, but I'm like, what is it that you're
actually watching? Are you communicating with someone? Like I thought
I had taken off all the chat features and I
Bobby came up to me the other day and said, Mom,
I'm banned on Roadblocks and it's.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Because he's done some swearing.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And I was like, shame on you.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So look, there's things you want to put in place
that are really sensible, like you know, I love a
screen contract for kids. You also want to do things
like I have a locked box, so our kid's device
is going a locked box, and I've got.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The code that helps.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And then screen controls, which are a nightmare to set up,
because it's different on every screen. But we've got to
take the time and if you don't know how to
do it, hire someone and get it done right. And
make sure that your kid is on roadblocks and identified
as a kid so they don't have adult settings, little
things like that. But then from there, my belief is
you cannot protect your kids from anything in the whole world,
either online or in real life. And so there are
(11:44):
a couple of really key conversations that you want to
be having with your kids over and over again, and
one of them is, do you know there's nothing you
could ever tell me that you saw or did online
or in real life that would make me love you less.
And I'm always here and on your team no matter
what's happened, So that if your kid does make a
mistake and they say something nasty to someone in a WhatsApp.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Group, or if your kid does allow.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Our friend requests in roadblocks, or whatever happens, the biggest
protective thing for our kids is that they can come
to us and we will help them sort it out.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I know that's one of the concerns around Elbows under
sixteen's blanket ban for social media is that kids under
sixteen will still get on it, and they will then
be less likely to come to mum and dad because
you know that they think they've broken the law in
the already already in trouble doing the wrong thing. As
a parenting expert, are you in favor of the blanket
(12:39):
ban of socials for under sixteens?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I am in favor of it. I think that on
the whole, if we can as a society support parents
to hold off that little bit longer, kids' brains will
be that little bit more mature. It's going to collectively help. Yes,
kids will get around anything. But again I think you
can say, look not for us right now with social media,
there's a law in place, and in our family, we're
going to sort of stick with that. You can put
(13:03):
things in place, like having a rule like you're allowed
a phone at fourteen, but you may not download any
opp without asking, and if you do download an app,
we'll have to give the phone a rest in the
study and kind of I'll have a tighter rein on.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It until we build that trust back up. Bring back
the ninety two tens. I say I want to give
my well phones.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Have NOCKI and not done this and relaunched.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
So truly. I have four boys.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
My oldest two kids got a phone in year five
because that's what everybody did. They were getting on a
bus to travel to school, and so I gave them
a phone.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
And he's got an old Noki out.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, so we can play Snake.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
He's only got Snake and you'll buy them. And it's
so good.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
It does a little bit better predictive text than it
did in nineteen ninety nine or whenever I had mine.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
It is so good.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
He's got no internet, and you know, I think that
it's a great solution. He can call and text his friends,
he can call us if he needs.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Us to play Snake. It's safe and that's it.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
And battery life.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He gets a full week.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Steve Jobs can burn in hell. We're going to be
a knockier family from here.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
There have been some really great ticks in there. They're
really practical things that we can actually put in place.
So that is so good to know.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Jen Muir, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
And you guys your podcast with my friend Amy here
as well.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Beyond the Chaos. It's a fantastic parenting podcast. If you listen,
you will feel very, very seen. You'll feel less alone,
and you'll probably have.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
A bit of a chuckle.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Check it out, Jen, Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Chris, So you may or may not have seen the
news this week. You're probably not across it as much
as people like myself any war. No, we're not talking
about the potential World War three. Talking about a social
media girlfriend of mine.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Her name is Indy Clinton.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now, she's one TikToker of the year, but she's also
huge on Instagram, and she's come out recently this week
actually saying that she has spent her hard earned money
and she has now received a sixty four page dossier
on all of the trolls that she has been dealing with. Now,
(15:09):
she she has been copying online bullying, cyber bullying, dosing
from these faceless, anonymous trolls for a couple.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Of months now.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So she chose to have a nose job.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, oh I did I saw this headliner.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, she chosen to have a nose job, and the
Internet has decided that they don't like it.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It was botched according to the Internet.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
And Indy has actually come out and she said, I'm
getting this this surgery done. I had an incident with
a surfboard when I was younger, and she's got a
lump there, so she's doing it something for herself. She
fronted up, she was honest. She didn't try and hide
it like these celebrities do. And the Internet has decided
that it's disgusting and it looks awful, and the trolling
(15:52):
on her towards her and her family and her life
choices has been absolutely relentless.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Hang on one secon though. You said celebrities and like
a negative thing about the celebrities. Oh, they try to
hide it. Well, they just disappear. Yeah, it's called so
if they want to get a nose job, they go
and do it in private. She has chosen to tell
the whole world that I'm getting a nose job and
then share the results of that nose job. And then
so people have come back. I mean, I'm not saying
(16:24):
it's okay to be horrible.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean I'm not saying that people aren't allowed to
have an opinion on it. Okay, absolutely have an opinion
on it, and if you think it looks silly, have
a chat to you.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Made about it.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But writing to her and telling her, just calling her
every name, under the sun and then bringing her children
into it. That is absolutely not accepting.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
No, that's over the top. But it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Saying parking ranges, right, they've chosen to be parking ranges.
Does that mean that you're allowed to walk past them
and hurl abuse in the direction? Yes, no, you are
not chrity.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I'd do it on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well, and you're lucky that you don't get busted.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
I don't attack their children. And yeah, there's a but
that you have to admit that there is a level
of when you decide to make a living by sharing
your life and sharing your whole life on social media,
that's going to be a downside of it. You have
to accept.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Thattely, and I think most people in this space absolutely
accept it. I also share my life on social media.
But what I don't think we have to accept is
cyberbullying and doxing and trolling, Like cyberbullying is a crime.
But all these women predominantly women, And the saddest thing
is a lot of the findings that she's come across
(17:37):
are from mums, So women with children is a side
of venting thing.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Do you think do they just need to get something
out of their system. So they just get online and
abuse someone. But you know what, is it therapeutic? No?
Speaker 1 (17:48):
But they're just so gutless, Like if you want to
have your peace, say it with your face and front
up with your identity. But what they do is they
hide behind these anonymous accounts. And I think if one thing,
I mean, so much good stuff has come from her
spending her hard earned cash, Cooks, I know it wasn't cheap.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It's that you aren't anonymous. There is a will in
a way.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
And you've got the finances you can uncover people who
want to incessantly troll you. It's a big wake up
call for all these miserable women who just want to
attack somebody over what she has chosen to do to
her own body.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I'm going to stick up for women for one moment
and say, I know there are a lot of male
trolls out there as well. I these miserable women out there, Now,
you're the one that's going to get complaints for a change.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I'm working on her.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
So a private investigator has found these people found out
everything about.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Every single like down to where they gave birth to
their children, down to their ABN numbers and She hasn't
publicly named and shamed anyone, but she is taking I
think two or three of them to court.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Because certain things are welly harassment, threats and.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Post someone's address, Yeah exactly, but also cyberbulling. So just constant,
relentless harassment and just being an asshole basically.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Oh really, yeah, So I need to leave Abby Chatfield alone. Yes,
I'm joking. I'm joking. I did not even follow that account.
You just asked me if i'd been watching the news
during the week, yes, and I said, yeah, what about
the war? And you're not talking about some social media
(19:31):
influences a nose job. Well, I've got some news for you,
news dot com, dot a unius. So people have been
outraged because they've found out a secret ingredient in Worcestershear sauce.
I had worcestershare to my body. Don't enjoy worcestershar sauce
at all, or there may be a reason for that
because one of the ingredients in it. People were shocked
(19:52):
to find out is anchovies.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Oh that makes so I hate anchovies too.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I hate anchovies, but I do you love I like
worcestershar sauce. So obviously there's not many anchovies.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Actually does give me a chance to share one of
my favorite jokes of all time with you and everyone,
of course, was on the rad which is great. Hello Toby, Yes, Toby,
I have a joke. Yes, what's the funniest smelling thing
in the whole wild world?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
The funniest smelling thing in the whole wide world? Kept
your nose? Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What was it? An anchovy?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Never call us again?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Play never in your life? Toby grow up and you
could tell as soon as you could hear his voice.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
That I have a joke. Yeah. Sure, Sorry for the diversion.
I hope it was worth it.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
You were just dying to play that joke.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
I just hear the word anchovy and I laughed. So okay.
Some other things that you might eat and drink that
contain some weird stuff. Sure, chocolate milk. You'll never look
at the same mode.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
No, don't tell me I love chocolate milk.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I'm going to ruin chocolate milk for you.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Hit me.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Seaweed what they use a type of red seaweed in
chocolate milk. It's ground down into a powder and it
helps the other ingredients in it bind together without actually
adding any more calories.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Who thought I'm going to find some red seaweed and
grind it down into a powder?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
A sick mind?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
All right, what else you got?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
The first person who ever eat an oyster would have
been pretty sick as well. I would think, yeah, well.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Look at those tiny rocks attached to a large rock.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Let's cut it off and eat.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
The and look at it. It's good. I'm going to
eat it, and.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I love oysters. But he doesn't actually make any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
No, to eat one. First, weird toothpaste? You have lovely
teeth clean? What's in your toothpaste? Though? Rocks? Rocks? A
brittle white rock called gypsum is a key ingredient. It
has a settling effect on liquids and has calcium in it,
(21:56):
so it's all foot it's good for the teeth in it.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, gypsum. It's literally like chip rock. You know that
they make houses out of. Well yeah, okay, else, and
it's interesting if you like your grated cheese or.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So, Now that is one thing I don't eat. Never
buy cheese that's already grated, because there's some some sort
of ingredient to preserve the cheese in that shred that
is very bad for you.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Really, well, that adds another layer to it because the
ingredient I've heard about is a cost cutting measure saw dust.
Cheese companies in America got busted putting up to ten
percent saw dust in their cheese before breaking it down
and grating it up. And apparently grated cheese isn't the
only thing saw dust is commonly used to because it's
(22:48):
like cheese stuff up. Yeah, we get free saw dust
from any mill I suppose, Oh my god, whack it
in the food to So it's like cocaine dealers. Yeah,
they're not going to sell you pure cocaine, are they.
It's like, this is the grated cheese people. They're like
coke dealers. They're cutting it with saw dust. Yeah, and
that is.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So we're eating like walls of houses and stuff.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Wood in your cheese. Okay, that sounds dirty. Now that's
cheese in your wood. Okay. Mushrooms. Mushrooms what an ingredient
so much, but just something you should know. Maggots. Twenty
or more maggots per one hundred grams of mushrooms is
too many and you'll get in trouble. The mushroom. People
(23:32):
will get in trouble if there's more than twenty maggots
per hundred grams of mushroom.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
So they put the maggots in with the mushrooms.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well, the maggots are in the mushrooms because they.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Grow underneath the ground.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
So oh, so they leave twenty in.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
And go, well, they don't count them and go, yeah, okay,
there's nineteen. These ones are ready to ship. I guess
this is why people use pesticides. Yeah, I think. So
you can go organic if you want. The maggots will
still be there.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
And this is why I cut up my mushrooms very
thinly and I fry them before eating them.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
All right, hope you learn something everyone.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Highly educational.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Amy came in one day a while ago and goes,
let me tell you what my dumb husband Ryan's done,
blah blah blah. Then it happened again the week after
week after that, and we went, you know what, let's
make it come the crap and make it a segment
and give it an intro. Thank you to Nickelback for
recording it for us as well.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Oh, Chris Stapleton.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sound creed.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
This one's more like just what is Ryan trying for.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Oh my god, it's god. He's getting in trouble now
for stuff he hasn't even done. It is Minority Report,
that movie. They arrest you for crimes you haven't done
because you thought about them.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Excuse me, it is merely me just discussing a topic
with you. Obviously, I'm just wanting your feedback. I mean,
I know you're usually in his corner.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I try.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, listen.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
So we live in a street and we're all very
friendly with all of our neighbors. Now across the street.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Now we're not swingers across the street.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
The husband has just bought himself a very nice MN
I add, looking brand new Harley Davidson.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And then next to him, Jim, he also has a huge, very.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Loud Harley Davidson of some sort.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Right now, My husband Ryan, when we first met, he
actually had a motorbike. He's ridden motorbikes his whole life.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
When you were dating, like you know, young and dating,
did you jump on the back of this motor bike? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Absolutely, and it was good.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
It's you know, it was nice.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
We would ride down to the beat. But our friends
across the road having gotten a Harley. It's just sparked
something in him, and he's like, I'm getting a Harley.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
I'm getting Harley.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
He came upstairs yet, and he goes, I'm getting a Harley.
I said, over my dead body, are you and he goes, no,
he goes, I'm not asking. I'm not asking. I'm just
letting you know. And I said, Ryan, you have a car.
He drives a good hour and a bit to work
every day and then back and his car is on
its last legs. Like, I'm pretty sure. His mechanic was like, mate,
(26:20):
time to look for a new car.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And I said, if you think that you're getting a
Harley before you get yourself a new car, like, you're
absolutely dreaming.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And then I also want to.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Landscape our back and front yard and then you can
get a Harley. Also, you're you're at least eight years
off a midlife crisis.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
He's forty two, right, Yes, I'm forty two.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Let me tell you there. Yeah, oh you're gonna buy Harley.
I'm not gonna buy a Harley. But there's Crisises come
in many different shapes.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
And forms, different different ages.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, everyone hits it differently. Yeah, it's about there.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I just think that there is a few other things
that we want that we need to do as a
family before we start throwing out silly sums of money
for just you know, our little hobbies.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Sometimes you just got to treat yourself though, if you
know you only buy what you.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Need, maybe I'll just go and treat myself.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, I wasn't going to bring it up last week.
You did show me the new diamond necklace, you thought yourself.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yes, I did from a whole sailing sale and I
got it. Like seventy percent.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Of the diamond was a necklace.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
It was a pair of earrings.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Sorry, diamond ear rings, yes, And I mean they was discounted,
so it would have been stupid not to buy.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Them heavily discount.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
But he can't get a motorbike.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
His motorbike is astronomically higher than the ear rings that
I purchased.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, yeah, but the earrings.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
But what you got nothing?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You're clutching its straws.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The earrings don't serve a purpose. They don't do from
what do they do?
Speaker 3 (27:54):
They do?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
There are a beautiful set of earrings that I'll be
able to pass down to my daughter.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, he can pass the Harley onto your son's.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
No, my sons aren't riding motorbikes.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Earrings look good, bikes look cool bikes.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Get you killed?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, yeah, I bet I'll google it or AI or something.
I bet earrings have killed someone at some point. Sorry, Ryan,
I tried always do my best. Buddy Chris, almost time
(28:31):
for us to get out of here. But Zuckerberg or
Kuckerberg and Lizard, yeah him personally. He was sitting there
at Meta headquarters and went, Chris Page from Australia, you're
gone if you missed it. I was using the story
feature on Instagram as a photo shop to what were
you doing, Chris? I was putting phalluses on my friend's faces.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And then sending.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I didn't post them on Instagram. But Instagram does have
some kind of feature where it can I identify shapes
of certain things and it goes, oh, that's nudity.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
And you've got multiple warnings.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I've got a couple of hundred warnings saying that we've
taken that down.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Are you ignored?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
But they didn't say we're going to delete your account?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
But a warning is a warning.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Most workplaces give you three.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
How many we had here?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I don't know how many.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Sorry, how have you had?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh sorry, yeah, someone complained about Amy for a change.
Please anyway, So I'm back last week.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yep, we relaunched with a very sad video.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
People were very confused at the start. I thought it
was quite clever.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, you made it sound like I was dying or something.
Chris has a problem. You've got to listen to this. Yeah,
but I'm fine, just my Insta.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Let me ask you, did you actually gain any followers
from that?
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, I relaunched the account. We announced it on air
and yeah it blew up.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Yeah, where are you at now?
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I'm almost at five five thousand, five hundred five followers.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
You know what you have?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Is that not good?
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yet?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Here's where I think you've gone wrong. You've launched with
a new account with a creepy looking display pick doing
the peace sign like your twelve. But then you've got
no photos, so you don't have a single photo.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
So what people want.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
To just share that kiss video?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah? So now the only thing that's on your account
is a video, and it's me as the front cover,
So you've got.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
To be fair. That was the only thing on my
old account as well. It was just the kiss video.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The kiss videos yeah. So I feel like you need.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
To do your first post.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Okay, okay, all right, now.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I will do all right, right now, what would you
like me to post?
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Maybe a family photo?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I can do that.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I've got maybe one of your wife and.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yes, just so people know that you're a family.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Guy, big smiling, happy family Yeah. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
got one? Yeah, nice one. There you go. So it's
the birthday cake.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Oh nice?
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Okay, that's nice.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
That's what we want.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
And then maybe follow it up with another one tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
I don't want to bombard people.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well no, people like consistency, so you got to lure
them in.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Do I write a caption? Is this a story or
a post post? It's a post? Hang on?
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Maybe you can write.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Something like the family there with the birthday cake? What
am I writing?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
My heart living on the outside of me?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Really, my heart living on the outside of me? Should
I write that?
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Double?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Okay? Yeah, I'm doing it. My heart living on the
outside of me? Yeah okay.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Or you could just write something even corneo right than that?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah, right, my purpose, I've already written my heart living
on the outside of me.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Heart emoji, Yeah, definitely a heart emoji. Eggplant and then no,
no egg for the wife and kids. Hashtag my purpose,
hashtag my purpose, no.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Space in between my purpose.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Okay, all right, get it up there scent no who
post or sent to theost?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Well, yeah, but you don't.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Scent like means that you're sending it to someone just
post posted.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yeah good, there you go, at a boy.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I'm gonna like that quick. Someone liked it.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
And then you get a little dopamine here.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
You get excited and your social media starts to then
slowly ruin your life.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
What God, another unverified person? It's someone famous like that?
Please someone interesting?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Who would you like? Billy Slater?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Billy doesn't follow me? The grub? Yeah, oh no, you're
not allowed to call Billy Slater a grub on the radio?
Are you you get in trouble? Okay, we're gonna get
out of here, yes, and we'll be back tomorrow morning
at eight o'clock. We will do it all again.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
I'll see you in the morning.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay, Bye bye bye. Chris and Amy girards
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