May 4, 2025 • 21 mins
Do It For Dolly - Kate Everett Interview
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Activewear At Work
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Chris Page and Amy Gerard in the Morning. Hello and
welcome to the Chris Page and Amy Gerard Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Was the pope dead when you were away? Or did
that happen?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The pope had passed away before I left?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Right? Who would you like to be pope? Who's your
favorite Catholic? Amy?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm actually not a Catholic.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So, oh, you don't get a vote, then.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well I don't want to vote either.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, they asked Donald Trump who he thinks should be
the new pope. Yeah, you're ready for this one. He
thinks he should be. He says I would make a
wonderful pope, and so once he's finished being president, he
wants to be pope as well.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
No, he did it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
He said it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He said that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Donald Trump said it because we are sure if.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You're a pope you have to abstain from having sex.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah. We do a segment each week, Well, sometimes we
do where I play you like Donnie's Highlight of the Week.
I couldn't actually play you this week's on air because
I'll just give you the headline. It was like it's
a video and it's Donald Trump impersonates transgender weightlifter. Oh
my god, and it's him doing a bit of transgender comedy.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What does transgender comedy even look like?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We're not going to find out on our show. I'm
not going to open that can of worms and play
Donald Trump making fun of a trans person.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Wow did he actually do that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, he's wild man.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
He has no he gives zero.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
He literally gives zero.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Fix Yeah. Wow, Okay, let's get into the podcasts. And
in twenty eighteen, Australia was deeply moved by the tragic
loss of fourteen year old Dolly Everett, vibrant, beautiful young
girl whose life was cut short due to relentless bullying,
particular cyberbullying. In the wake of unimaginable grief, her parents,
(02:13):
Kate and Tick Everett, launched Dolly's Dream, a movement that
since grown into a national force for kindness, awareness and
positive change. It's the Do It for Dolly Initiative, which
is the now annual Do It for Dolly Day. And
it's on May the ninth, So it's coming up this Friday,
and we have got Dolly's mum, Kate Everett on the
phone with us this morning. Get a Kate O, Kay,
(02:35):
good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
We're fine, Yeah, I'm great to speak to you. It's
really brave of you to still be able to speak
about this and cyberbullying, I know is such a huge
problem for so many families that would be listening to
us right now. I'm sure it's incredibly painful. But can
you run us through what led up to Dolly's death
in twenty eighteen, What was she experiencing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was a combination of things, and it included cyber bullying,
and that has become a focus of what we've built
out our pro and our support network around for Dolly's dream.
I think, you know, what Dolly experienced is no different
to what many many other children one in six in fact,
(03:21):
are experiencing online or face to face. And you know,
education has been the key for the last eight years
and making sure that other parents and schools and children
have that support that we didn't have at the time.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's really important to be talking about it. Like I
remember being a kid in school and there was a girl.
I remember a girl who constantly used to take all
of my lunch box food and everything like that, and
she was a little bit of a bully, but at
the end of the day I could go home and
kind of escape her, Whereas I think cyberbullying is so
prevalent at the moment, and there is such a big
disassociation with it because people on one side of the
(04:01):
computer on their keyboard writing horrible, nasty things to you know,
other people, They just they don't realize the impact it's
having on the person on the other side of the screen,
especially as a young kid. How hard that is, you know,
when you're a fourteen year old, which.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Is why I know the social media ban from under
sixteens has been proposed by Anthony ALBINIZI are you a
supporter of that cake Look, I.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Think it's one part of the puzzle. And the thing
that probably frightens me a little bit about that is
that it may build some complacency in parents that know
they can let their guard down. Everything is safe. But
at the end of the day, you know, we model
behavior online and what we react and respond and how
(04:48):
we do it, and a lot of what we focus
on in our workshops and our cyber safety workshops is
how to be a good online citizen and with that ban.
It needs to include platforms like gaming, you know where
the still chat rooms available. So it is a piece
of the puzzle. It's not the beal and or it's
(05:10):
just part of a really big picture.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
When you talk about your workshops, are you going out
to schools in particular and doing these workshops or are
they things that you run online.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Mostly we try and do face to face schools and
this year we have a focus on whole school approaches,
so we're including teachers and all age groups in a school.
Last year we saw twenty thousand children and a lot
of these are in rural and regional areas and to
schools where nobody goes. You know, it's too far, there's
(05:42):
not enough children, or all of those things.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So do It for Dolly Days coming up on the
ninth tell us a bit about this, Kate. So obviously
there is there's a fundraising element. I know you're selling
Choose Kindness badges, which is a wonderful message, but it
is just also building that awareness and I believe you're
also asking people to wear blue for Dolly.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Absolutely, Do It for Dolly Days has become our national
awareness and fundraising campaign and basically we're aiming to bring
the community together, spread some kindness, and we're asking people
to wear blue, Dolly's favorite color, and go blue to
end bullying. It's absolutely amazing to hear some of those
stories come out of those communities of people connecting and
(06:22):
and you know, parents opening up and knowing that they're
not alone and that someone supports them, and it's it's
a really, really beautiful day. So what started out is
just awareness has become something so amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It is amazing to see someone turned what is every
parent's worst nightmare and the most unimaginable tragedy into something positive,
like do it for Dolly Day. It's coming up on
May the night, so get involved, get yourself a choose
kindness badge on some blue blue to Dolly and be kind,
be good everyone.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Let's not hard, right, it's not hard. Kind threet others
the way you want to be treated.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think our parents had it right. If you can't
say something nice, don't say anything at all.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That's exactly my dad drummed that into me as a kid.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's a pretty simple one.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's a simple one for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Dolly's mum, Kate Ever, thank you so much for having
a chat.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
To us morning so much.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Obviously it's a really heavy topic this morning. If you
or someone you know needs help, there is a lot
of help available, including Lifeline on thirteen eleven fourteen, So
reach out. Chris d Amy, I didn't realize it was
bring your child to work day again.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Poor producer mine out there. She's answering the phone. She's doing.
It's a babysitting service.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
She also doubles as a craze. Yes. So all of
my children have taken it in turns with me to
come in on a Saturday morning. Charlie comes in more
often than not because it's it's either here or soccer.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I bet it's just to get away from the boys,
isn't it. Charlie's right here. Oh she's putting on lipstick.
That's isn't it adorable? When nine year olds were makeup?
Charlie say hi, Hella, hey, all right, Charlie's here. Now
you've just been out to the loo, Amy for a
few minutes. Yeah, and I'm in a few minutes. It
was a couple of songs.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Worth in there, well, drunk a lot of water.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know if it was a number one.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It was definitely a number one. Well, then I just
didn't want to rush back.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, you know what, Charlie was here in the studio. Okay,
you ducked out, and I thought, what a great time
for Charlie and I to get to know each other
a little bit. And we go we've done an interview.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Did you do an interview with Chris?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
My god, would you like to hear it?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, sure, here you go.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Tell me about your mummy, Amy Gerard. What's the best
thing about her?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
She's really nice to me, and she's super caring and
she does lots of stuff for me.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What do you think is maybe the worst thing about mummy?
I know you love her, but nobody's perfect. Everyone's got
bad stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
When ever, the boys are you like fighting? She always
yells at them, But it feels like she's yelling at me.
But I know she's not, but it like just feels
like she is.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You just don't like hearing her yelling.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah. When your mummy and daddy both go to the toilet,
and if you go into the bathroom afterwards, who does
smell your poos out of mummy and daddy?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
After hard work?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, is it close?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I think probably My dad's poos are badder because he
doesn't go straight away. He holds it in and then
he goes, and then that makes it way worser. But
they're both so so stinky.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
All right, thank you for your time, Charlie. It's been enlightening.
You have a wonderful.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Day, you too, goodbye, Chris.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That was sixty minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Skin. What do you talk? What are you talking about?
My number two smell like strawberries. Nothing that comes out
of Ryan.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Strawberries dipped in chocolate.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Ryan's that those things will strip the paint off the walls.
He will destroy a porcelain bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
How do you think? Charlie went on air like I mean,
I like to a great mic technique.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
She was quite shy and she talks very slow.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You're angry that she said your poostings.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She'll be hearing about that on the way home. That
Ryan wasn't the front runner by a mile.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She said it was close to one.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That they both stink outrageous.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Chris saw a new story the other day that wasn't
actually news to me, but I'd never seen it made
official before. But it is for our generation. The word
Champ is now officially an insult.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
An insult.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's short for champion, which you would think, well, champion
is as well. But now when people say yeah, good
on your champ.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
My dad calls like, my boy's champ. He's like, come on, Champ.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He's older though, Yeah, old men can say champ.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
To be honest. Though, if I want to get under
Ryan's skin, I call him Champ. Yeah all right, Champ, Yeah, okay,
good one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Champ A good one as well. For champion is one
for if you don't remember anyone's name, out someone here
and it's a famous Australian Joe Hildebrand. I used to
work with him at another radio station and he he's
terrible with names, so we'd see anyone. He goes hello
Champion to everyone, Hello Champion. That's not as bad Champ is.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What about buddy, Buddy's all right, hey buddy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's funny in Australia that champ is an insult, but
it is like, you know, get a you know, yeah, yeah,
that's all right.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
God, we're weird with nicknames.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh, I've got so many nicknames, Like I think about
one of the parts of being Australian that I think
is really really nice. We kind of boganize every single thing,
Like every single kid of mine has a nickname. When
Kobe was born, he had a huge head, so he
went from melon head to big Mel and he literally
went by big Mel, Big Mel. Oh yeah, big Mel.
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Bobby was Bobby, and then it went to Bob sled
and now he just gets called the sled. The sled, yeah,
or sled sled.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Reminds me of the edge from you two. Yeah, I
want to know how he got that nickname.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My little brother grew up and in when we're in school,
he was very pudgy, and he used to get egg
or rissole or they or his other nickname was sphere
because they used to say he's got no bones in
his boots. He was just around.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What did I hear you calling your husband Ryan? Yes?
Ryan is bad girl? What the hell?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Because his name is spelt r h i a M. Now,
I don't care. One says grammatically that is pronounced rhann
right as in Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihann. I used to go
to school with a rihann anyway, So all my girlfriends
used to start calling him bad girl reb and then
it just went to bad girl, so he just gets
(12:56):
called bad girl a lot of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I want to give a shout out to a guy
I went to high school with named Dave Lester. Yes,
his nickname was Mo Morning Mo Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So I've a new trend that I want to talk about,
and it's, to be honest, it's one that I'm very,
very excited about.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
M M.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It is active wear at work. So obviously you've got
all these workplaces who back in COVID times allowed people
to do some days at home, and now basically gen
Z's are pushing the boundaries and they are styling active
wear and coming into work dressed like that. I am
(13:35):
all for this trend. I really do think it. I
really do think it's going to take off, and I
hope it does.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, because you've got a good rig so you want
to get on your Lulu lemonon strut around the office.
What there are a lot of peer There are a
lot of people in workplaces who have no business wearing
active wear.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I think if you wear you can wear active wear,
and you can still dress it up so that you
look corporate like you could wear a pair of Lulu
Lemon tights wear it with a business shirt and a blazer,
and boom you look in styling. You look like an idiot,
it says here. The youngest working generation known for pushing
fashion boundaries, are bringing back low rise jeans, slogan T shirts,
(14:14):
and now they're claiming that lycra can also be corporate wear.
Here here, I would love to come to work in
just active wear.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Because you've got a good rid. You go to the GMI,
do your pilates, so you want to come in and
show off your inner thigh clearance and you know, make
all and have all the other women in the office
hate you.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
No, I do not.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That is already.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That is not the reason. It's because it's comfortable. A
lady who runs an agency says that a gaggle gen
Z employees of women who she says are often hanging
out in exercise gear now allows it in the office
because her gen Z stuff up much cooler and they
can traditionally pull it off. And casual clothes and work
(14:57):
clothes aren'ta's cool anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Does it say women? It says a gaggle, which implies females.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Of course it's women.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I've never heard of a gaggle of men.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Why not? Why are we not letting women just dress
however they want.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Because we don't let men dress however they want. Real
estate agents can't rock up in board shorts and show
you a house or suits on a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Well who made that rule up?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't know, but it's the rule.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, I'm thinking as long as you throw a blazer on.
If you wore a blazer into work one day, Chris,
you would look very smart, very astute. Is that the
right word? A stute?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Not really? A stuit means you're observant and switched on,
and you know a blazer says you're a stute.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm running with it all right.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
If you think active wear at work is a good thing,
I am going to wear the tightest pair of really.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Thin, light gray sweat.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm going down to the cyclist. Did ask our producer
Ego where he buys his cyclist here, and I'm going
to go down there and buy I'm going to go, hey,
I want something that really shows off my balls because
I need to wear it to work tomorrow and show
my co host. Active wear in the office is not.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
A good no. I think this is only for women.
This is heued towards women.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Okay, so women, sorry, Men just keep wearing starchy, uncomfortable
business shirts and ties and suits. Well, the girls can
just slop it up correct in active wear.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's not slob.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I know women have had a hard time historically, but
the pendulum has swung too far. You don't.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
The right places.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You'll see my swinging pendulum tomorrow in my bike shorts.
You're pretty young and hip and cool.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Now I sound old, but the other day we were
just having a normal conversation and you said, oh, I
had a big row with Ryan last night. I thought
a row, And I said, I felt like we were
in an Enid Blyton because you had a row with Ryan.
And then did you give the children a scolding after
that as well?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I feel like some of these old words they're coming back,
they're trending.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
There's one I'm going to bring back, and I don't know,
I just like the sound of it. I was watching
Oppenheimer again the other night, again, great movie, and there's
a scene in it where they're doing the hearing about
Open and whether or not he's a commie and all this,
and there's this old American general guy, like an old
grumpy general, and he's defending him, going, well, I think
(17:17):
he's all right, and he goes, I'm sorry, gentleman if
I sound stirred, because I am stirred. And I thought
stirred now there's a good word. It's sort of perturbed.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I was on the phone to my dad the other
day and he was talking about I was discussing my
middle child, Bobby, and he's a busy, bright, energetic kid,
and my dad goes, you know, he's a young whipper snapper,
and I was like, oh what, But I remember him
even talking about my brothers like that. I think I
don't know what it means.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
My grandmother used to when she'd whenever she'd go traveling,
she'd go abroad, she'd be traveling abroad.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Abroad or my mum always says, oh, you sound really poorly.
I think that's an English thing. Poorly.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, your boss would think you were making it up.
If you texted him and said I can't come to
work today, I'm feeling poorly, he'd be like, get in here, idiot.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What about dapper dapper? He was very dapper.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Aren't we a couple of dapper dandies?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah? My dad down where they live. They still have
a picture show. Yeah, it's not the event cinema down
there or anything, it's the pictures.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
They don't have vmax the pictures.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It actually smells like moldy feet and leather in there.
It's that old.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Isn't funny how smell is so strong with memories, like
more than I think visions sound, absolutely, but the smell
of something just brings it takes you straight back.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Smell and songs for me? Music?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You mean ditties?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Ditties?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that's a catchy ditty. You're just about time for
us to get out of here. But we couldn't get
through a week without checking out what the hot goss
is this week in the Facebook mum's group. What's the
big issue in the Facebook mums groups?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Okay, this mum has written in, said my ten year
olds asking him to take public transport to school on
his own train and a short walk. He's super keen
and keep saying he's ready, but I'm honestly not sure.
It's not that I don't trust him. I'm just nervous
about safety, destructions and all the what ifs. He's pushing
for more independence and I get it, but it's a
big step for me. Have you let your kids start
(19:28):
doing this around that age? Appreciate any advice or reassurance.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Ten years old, so he's going to be what about
year three? Yfore me?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Year four?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
God, it's little, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, it's a no for you, it's a no for me.
I don't mind a little walk up like my kids
will walk or they'll ride their bikes up to our
local shop. It's less than a kilometer.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
They will go up to be you know the area.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I know the area. I'd never let them go on
their own for starters. I always say, take your brother
or take somebody from the street. You don't go on
your own. But getting on a train it's a no
from me at ten.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah. Ten, I mean particularly I don't know where in
the city they're going as well, because I mean, look,
let's face it, there are areas that are worse.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's right, And your kid can be as street smart
and as responsible as you can ever imagine, right, But
it's not about the kid in certain situations, it's about
other people. And you watch the new environment, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Terrible people out there, terrible.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
People taking older kids off the streets and just a
ten year old is so young and so defenseless. And
she said it was a boy, right, she said, yes,
his own, his own.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know why that feels different. I would be
I would be.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
More inclined to let the boy.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, I know that's probably sexist somehow.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, it would just be a no from me, regardless
of the gender. Yeah, at ten. I think when they're fifteen, sixteen, you.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Think you get to tell your kids what they can
and can't do. When they're fifteen and sixty, they no
have fun with that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But I know, and now I understand. My dad. I
was I was the firstborn. I was a daughter, and
I wanted to go out and do whatever I wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And my dad in parks with boys exactly right, busy hands, Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Calm down over there. But my dad was so strict
and I hated him and rebelled. And you're pretty peak
out of the house. And I get it. Now. I'm
going to be the same with my daughter.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
All right, So it's a no for the ten year old.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
No, Yes, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You're a terrible parent, terrible.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I get it. Kids want more independence these days, but
just hold on to him a little bit. Longer.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, hold on to him and never email here again.
Issue Chris Page and Amy dryed in the morning. We
got to get out of here. Have a great rist
of your Sunday everyone, and we'll catch you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
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Chris Page and Amy Gerard in the Morning. Hello and
welcome to the Chris Page and Amy Gerard Podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Was the pope dead when you were away? Or did
that happen?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
The pope had passed away before I left?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Right? Who would you like to be pope? Who's your
favorite Catholic? Amy?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm actually not a Catholic.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So, oh, you don't get a vote, then.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Well I don't want to vote either.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, they asked Donald Trump who he thinks should be
the new pope. Yeah, you're ready for this one. He
thinks he should be. He says I would make a
wonderful pope, and so once he's finished being president, he
wants to be pope as well.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
No, he did it.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
He said it.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
He said that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Donald Trump said it because we are sure if.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
You're a pope you have to abstain from having sex.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah. We do a segment each week, Well, sometimes we
do where I play you like Donnie's Highlight of the Week.
I couldn't actually play you this week's on air because
I'll just give you the headline. It was like it's
a video and it's Donald Trump impersonates transgender weightlifter. Oh
my god, and it's him doing a bit of transgender comedy.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What does transgender comedy even look like?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
We're not going to find out on our show. I'm
not going to open that can of worms and play
Donald Trump making fun of a trans person.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Wow did he actually do that?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, he's wild man.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
He has no he gives zero.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
He doesn't.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
He literally gives zero.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Fix Yeah. Wow, Okay, let's get into the podcasts. And
in twenty eighteen, Australia was deeply moved by the tragic
loss of fourteen year old Dolly Everett, vibrant, beautiful young
girl whose life was cut short due to relentless bullying,
particular cyberbullying. In the wake of unimaginable grief, her parents,
(02:13):
Kate and Tick Everett, launched Dolly's Dream, a movement that
since grown into a national force for kindness, awareness and
positive change. It's the Do It for Dolly Initiative, which
is the now annual Do It for Dolly Day. And
it's on May the ninth, So it's coming up this Friday,
and we have got Dolly's mum, Kate Everett on the
phone with us this morning. Get a Kate O, Kay,
(02:35):
good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
We're fine, Yeah, I'm great to speak to you. It's
really brave of you to still be able to speak
about this and cyberbullying, I know is such a huge
problem for so many families that would be listening to
us right now. I'm sure it's incredibly painful. But can
you run us through what led up to Dolly's death
in twenty eighteen, What was she experiencing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
It was a combination of things, and it included cyber bullying,
and that has become a focus of what we've built
out our pro and our support network around for Dolly's dream.
I think, you know, what Dolly experienced is no different
to what many many other children one in six in fact,
(03:21):
are experiencing online or face to face. And you know,
education has been the key for the last eight years
and making sure that other parents and schools and children
have that support that we didn't have at the time.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's really important to be talking about it. Like I
remember being a kid in school and there was a girl.
I remember a girl who constantly used to take all
of my lunch box food and everything like that, and
she was a little bit of a bully, but at
the end of the day I could go home and
kind of escape her, Whereas I think cyberbullying is so
prevalent at the moment, and there is such a big
disassociation with it because people on one side of the
(04:01):
computer on their keyboard writing horrible, nasty things to you know,
other people, They just they don't realize the impact it's
having on the person on the other side of the screen,
especially as a young kid. How hard that is, you know,
when you're a fourteen year old, which.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Is why I know the social media ban from under
sixteens has been proposed by Anthony ALBINIZI are you a
supporter of that cake Look, I.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Think it's one part of the puzzle. And the thing
that probably frightens me a little bit about that is
that it may build some complacency in parents that know
they can let their guard down. Everything is safe. But
at the end of the day, you know, we model
behavior online and what we react and respond and how
(04:48):
we do it, and a lot of what we focus
on in our workshops and our cyber safety workshops is
how to be a good online citizen and with that ban.
It needs to include platforms like gaming, you know where
the still chat rooms available. So it is a piece
of the puzzle. It's not the beal and or it's
(05:10):
just part of a really big picture.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
When you talk about your workshops, are you going out
to schools in particular and doing these workshops or are
they things that you run online.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Mostly we try and do face to face schools and
this year we have a focus on whole school approaches,
so we're including teachers and all age groups in a school.
Last year we saw twenty thousand children and a lot
of these are in rural and regional areas and to
schools where nobody goes. You know, it's too far, there's
(05:42):
not enough children, or all of those things.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
So do It for Dolly Days coming up on the
ninth tell us a bit about this, Kate. So obviously
there is there's a fundraising element. I know you're selling
Choose Kindness badges, which is a wonderful message, but it
is just also building that awareness and I believe you're
also asking people to wear blue for Dolly.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Absolutely, Do It for Dolly Days has become our national
awareness and fundraising campaign and basically we're aiming to bring
the community together, spread some kindness, and we're asking people
to wear blue, Dolly's favorite color, and go blue to
end bullying. It's absolutely amazing to hear some of those
stories come out of those communities of people connecting and
(06:22):
and you know, parents opening up and knowing that they're
not alone and that someone supports them, and it's it's
a really, really beautiful day. So what started out is
just awareness has become something so amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It is amazing to see someone turned what is every
parent's worst nightmare and the most unimaginable tragedy into something positive,
like do it for Dolly Day. It's coming up on
May the night, so get involved, get yourself a choose
kindness badge on some blue blue to Dolly and be kind,
be good everyone.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Let's not hard, right, it's not hard. Kind threet others
the way you want to be treated.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think our parents had it right. If you can't
say something nice, don't say anything at all.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
That's exactly my dad drummed that into me as a kid.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It's a pretty simple one.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's a simple one for sure.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Dolly's mum, Kate Ever, thank you so much for having
a chat.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
To us morning so much.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Obviously it's a really heavy topic this morning. If you
or someone you know needs help, there is a lot
of help available, including Lifeline on thirteen eleven fourteen, So
reach out. Chris d Amy, I didn't realize it was
bring your child to work day again.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yes, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Poor producer mine out there. She's answering the phone. She's doing.
It's a babysitting service.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
She also doubles as a craze. Yes. So all of
my children have taken it in turns with me to
come in on a Saturday morning. Charlie comes in more
often than not because it's it's either here or soccer.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I bet it's just to get away from the boys,
isn't it. Charlie's right here. Oh she's putting on lipstick.
That's isn't it adorable? When nine year olds were makeup?
Charlie say hi, Hella, hey, all right, Charlie's here. Now
you've just been out to the loo, Amy for a
few minutes. Yeah, and I'm in a few minutes. It
was a couple of songs.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Worth in there, well, drunk a lot of water.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
I don't know if it was a number one.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
It was definitely a number one. Well, then I just
didn't want to rush back.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, you know what, Charlie was here in the studio. Okay,
you ducked out, and I thought, what a great time
for Charlie and I to get to know each other
a little bit. And we go we've done an interview.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Did you do an interview with Chris?
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
My god, would you like to hear it?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, sure, here you go.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Tell me about your mummy, Amy Gerard. What's the best
thing about her?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
She's really nice to me, and she's super caring and
she does lots of stuff for me.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
What do you think is maybe the worst thing about mummy?
I know you love her, but nobody's perfect. Everyone's got
bad stuff.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
When ever, the boys are you like fighting? She always
yells at them, But it feels like she's yelling at me.
But I know she's not, but it like just feels
like she is.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
You just don't like hearing her yelling.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah. When your mummy and daddy both go to the toilet,
and if you go into the bathroom afterwards, who does
smell your poos out of mummy and daddy?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
After hard work?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well, is it close?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:21):
I think probably My dad's poos are badder because he
doesn't go straight away. He holds it in and then
he goes, and then that makes it way worser. But
they're both so so stinky.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
All right, thank you for your time, Charlie. It's been enlightening.
You have a wonderful.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Day, you too, goodbye, Chris.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
That was sixty minutes.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Skin. What do you talk? What are you talking about?
My number two smell like strawberries. Nothing that comes out
of Ryan.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Strawberries dipped in chocolate.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Ryan's that those things will strip the paint off the walls.
He will destroy a porcelain bowl.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
How do you think? Charlie went on air like I mean,
I like to a great mic technique.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
She was quite shy and she talks very slow.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
You're angry that she said your poostings.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She'll be hearing about that on the way home. That
Ryan wasn't the front runner by a mile.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
She said it was close to one.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
That they both stink outrageous.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Chris saw a new story the other day that wasn't
actually news to me, but I'd never seen it made
official before. But it is for our generation. The word
Champ is now officially an insult.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
An insult.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
It's short for champion, which you would think, well, champion
is as well. But now when people say yeah, good
on your champ.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
My dad calls like, my boy's champ. He's like, come on, Champ.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
He's older though, Yeah, old men can say champ.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
To be honest. Though, if I want to get under
Ryan's skin, I call him Champ. Yeah all right, Champ, Yeah, okay,
good one.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Champ A good one as well. For champion is one
for if you don't remember anyone's name, out someone here
and it's a famous Australian Joe Hildebrand. I used to
work with him at another radio station and he he's
terrible with names, so we'd see anyone. He goes hello
Champion to everyone, Hello Champion. That's not as bad Champ is.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What about buddy, Buddy's all right, hey buddy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's funny in Australia that champ is an insult, but
it is like, you know, get a you know, yeah, yeah,
that's all right.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
God, we're weird with nicknames.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh, I've got so many nicknames, Like I think about
one of the parts of being Australian that I think
is really really nice. We kind of boganize every single thing,
Like every single kid of mine has a nickname. When
Kobe was born, he had a huge head, so he
went from melon head to big Mel and he literally
went by big Mel, Big Mel. Oh yeah, big Mel.
(12:02):
Bobby was Bobby, and then it went to Bob sled
and now he just gets called the sled. The sled, yeah,
or sled sled.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Reminds me of the edge from you two. Yeah, I
want to know how he got that nickname.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
My little brother grew up and in when we're in school,
he was very pudgy, and he used to get egg
or rissole or they or his other nickname was sphere
because they used to say he's got no bones in
his boots. He was just around.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
What did I hear you calling your husband Ryan? Yes?
Ryan is bad girl? What the hell?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Because his name is spelt r h i a M. Now,
I don't care. One says grammatically that is pronounced rhann
right as in Rihanna, Rihanna, Rihann. I used to go
to school with a rihann anyway, So all my girlfriends
used to start calling him bad girl reb and then
it just went to bad girl, so he just gets
(12:56):
called bad girl a lot of the time.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I want to give a shout out to a guy
I went to high school with named Dave Lester. Yes,
his nickname was Mo Morning Mo Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
So I've a new trend that I want to talk about,
and it's, to be honest, it's one that I'm very,
very excited about.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
M M.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
It is active wear at work. So obviously you've got
all these workplaces who back in COVID times allowed people
to do some days at home, and now basically gen
Z's are pushing the boundaries and they are styling active
wear and coming into work dressed like that. I am
(13:35):
all for this trend. I really do think it. I
really do think it's going to take off, and I
hope it does.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, because you've got a good rig so you want
to get on your Lulu lemonon strut around the office.
What there are a lot of peer There are a
lot of people in workplaces who have no business wearing
active wear.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Well, I think if you wear you can wear active wear,
and you can still dress it up so that you
look corporate like you could wear a pair of Lulu
Lemon tights wear it with a business shirt and a blazer,
and boom you look in styling. You look like an idiot,
it says here. The youngest working generation known for pushing
fashion boundaries, are bringing back low rise jeans, slogan T shirts,
(14:14):
and now they're claiming that lycra can also be corporate wear.
Here here, I would love to come to work in
just active wear.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Because you've got a good rid. You go to the GMI,
do your pilates, so you want to come in and
show off your inner thigh clearance and you know, make
all and have all the other women in the office
hate you.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
No, I do not.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
That is already.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That is not the reason. It's because it's comfortable. A
lady who runs an agency says that a gaggle gen
Z employees of women who she says are often hanging
out in exercise gear now allows it in the office
because her gen Z stuff up much cooler and they
can traditionally pull it off. And casual clothes and work
(14:57):
clothes aren'ta's cool anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Does it say women? It says a gaggle, which implies females.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Of course it's women.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I've never heard of a gaggle of men.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Why not? Why are we not letting women just dress
however they want.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Because we don't let men dress however they want. Real
estate agents can't rock up in board shorts and show
you a house or suits on a Saturday.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Well who made that rule up?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I don't know, but it's the rule.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Well, I'm thinking as long as you throw a blazer on.
If you wore a blazer into work one day, Chris,
you would look very smart, very astute. Is that the
right word? A stute?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Not really? A stuit means you're observant and switched on,
and you know a blazer says you're a stute.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I'm running with it all right.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
If you think active wear at work is a good thing,
I am going to wear the tightest pair of really.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Thin, light gray sweat.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I'm going down to the cyclist. Did ask our producer
Ego where he buys his cyclist here, and I'm going
to go down there and buy I'm going to go, hey,
I want something that really shows off my balls because
I need to wear it to work tomorrow and show
my co host. Active wear in the office is not.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
A good no. I think this is only for women.
This is heued towards women.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Okay, so women, sorry, Men just keep wearing starchy, uncomfortable
business shirts and ties and suits. Well, the girls can
just slop it up correct in active wear.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's not slob.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I know women have had a hard time historically, but
the pendulum has swung too far. You don't.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
The right places.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
You'll see my swinging pendulum tomorrow in my bike shorts.
You're pretty young and hip and cool.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Now I sound old, but the other day we were
just having a normal conversation and you said, oh, I
had a big row with Ryan last night. I thought
a row, And I said, I felt like we were
in an Enid Blyton because you had a row with Ryan.
And then did you give the children a scolding after
that as well?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I feel like some of these old words they're coming back,
they're trending.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
There's one I'm going to bring back, and I don't know,
I just like the sound of it. I was watching
Oppenheimer again the other night, again, great movie, and there's
a scene in it where they're doing the hearing about
Open and whether or not he's a commie and all this,
and there's this old American general guy, like an old
grumpy general, and he's defending him, going, well, I think
(17:17):
he's all right, and he goes, I'm sorry, gentleman if
I sound stirred, because I am stirred. And I thought
stirred now there's a good word. It's sort of perturbed.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I was on the phone to my dad the other
day and he was talking about I was discussing my
middle child, Bobby, and he's a busy, bright, energetic kid,
and my dad goes, you know, he's a young whipper snapper,
and I was like, oh what, But I remember him
even talking about my brothers like that. I think I
don't know what it means.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
My grandmother used to when she'd whenever she'd go traveling,
she'd go abroad, she'd be traveling abroad.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Abroad or my mum always says, oh, you sound really poorly.
I think that's an English thing. Poorly.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, your boss would think you were making it up.
If you texted him and said I can't come to
work today, I'm feeling poorly, he'd be like, get in here, idiot.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What about dapper dapper? He was very dapper.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Aren't we a couple of dapper dandies?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah? My dad down where they live. They still have
a picture show. Yeah, it's not the event cinema down
there or anything, it's the pictures.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
They don't have vmax the pictures.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
It actually smells like moldy feet and leather in there.
It's that old.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Isn't funny how smell is so strong with memories, like
more than I think visions sound, absolutely, but the smell
of something just brings it takes you straight back.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Smell and songs for me? Music?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
You mean ditties?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Ditties?
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, that's a catchy ditty. You're just about time for
us to get out of here. But we couldn't get
through a week without checking out what the hot goss
is this week in the Facebook mum's group. What's the
big issue in the Facebook mums groups?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Okay, this mum has written in, said my ten year
olds asking him to take public transport to school on
his own train and a short walk. He's super keen
and keep saying he's ready, but I'm honestly not sure.
It's not that I don't trust him. I'm just nervous
about safety, destructions and all the what ifs. He's pushing
for more independence and I get it, but it's a
big step for me. Have you let your kids start
(19:28):
doing this around that age? Appreciate any advice or reassurance.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Ten years old, so he's going to be what about
year three? Yfore me?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Year four?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
God, it's little, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
No, it's a no for you, it's a no for me.
I don't mind a little walk up like my kids
will walk or they'll ride their bikes up to our
local shop. It's less than a kilometer.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
They will go up to be you know the area.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I know the area. I'd never let them go on
their own for starters. I always say, take your brother
or take somebody from the street. You don't go on
your own. But getting on a train it's a no
from me at ten.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah. Ten, I mean particularly I don't know where in
the city they're going as well, because I mean, look,
let's face it, there are areas that are worse.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's right, And your kid can be as street smart
and as responsible as you can ever imagine, right, But
it's not about the kid in certain situations, it's about
other people. And you watch the new environment, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Terrible people out there, terrible.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
People taking older kids off the streets and just a
ten year old is so young and so defenseless. And
she said it was a boy, right, she said, yes,
his own, his own.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know why that feels different. I would be
I would be.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
More inclined to let the boy.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Yeah, I know that's probably sexist somehow.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, it would just be a no from me, regardless
of the gender. Yeah, at ten. I think when they're fifteen, sixteen, you.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Think you get to tell your kids what they can
and can't do. When they're fifteen and sixty, they no
have fun with that.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
But I know, and now I understand. My dad. I
was I was the firstborn. I was a daughter, and
I wanted to go out and do whatever I wanted.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
And my dad in parks with boys exactly right, busy hands, Oh.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Calm down over there. But my dad was so strict
and I hated him and rebelled. And you're pretty peak
out of the house. And I get it. Now. I'm
going to be the same with my daughter.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
All right, So it's a no for the ten year old.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
No, Yes, don't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You're a terrible parent, terrible.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I get it. Kids want more independence these days, but
just hold on to him a little bit. Longer.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, hold on to him and never email here again.
Issue Chris Page and Amy dryed in the morning. We
got to get out of here. Have a great rist
of your Sunday everyone, and we'll catch you next week.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, see you guys.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Chris and your ards.
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