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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, let's go. Good morning that remains to be seen.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Chris Paige and Amy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good morning, every one have to be Saturday. Well not
for Amy. You are you okay?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's are you okay?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Day?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm moving it to July five.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I am absolutely ropeable. Actually I'm not even ropeable, and
I'm not even mad. I'm just so disappointed.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Usher canceling his Australian tour. You had your tickets locked in.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Mate, Not just me, everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know that Usher is like the epitome of my childhood.
Like we all grew up to him dancing, to him
getting ready for our Year ten formula, our Year twelve formal.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
If you want to, don't take a ride with me
enough Nelly, you idiot, I take you to the candy shot.
That's fifty yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Anyway, he's canceled his tour. Everybody's filthy. We are getting
our money back, thank god. But I just you know,
I never ever ever get excited about going to concerts,
and I will very rarely be bothered to even go
to one. But when I saw Usher touring, like it
was unanimous amongst all my girlfriends that we are going
and we I'm so excited. I was so excited, Like,
(01:41):
this is horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I would have liked to go chic songs.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You don't even know a single one.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Because I'm so sick of love songs.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
There, that's shot, that's neo.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Is it getting jiggy with it?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Nana?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Nana?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Will Smith cramming a river? My god, I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm more offended by the singing voice or the fact
that that was actually justin Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Really yeah, Well, I'm sorry for you and the girls,
so you won't get to say all these great songs.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, we're gonna take our undies and throw them at him.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Really, yeah, when you throw your undies on stage your
favorite singer, do you take the undies you're wearing off
and throw them or do you take a spare pair
in your pocket to throw?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, I was only joking, and I'm assuming that
people take them off then and there.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I'm so hot right now. Take my panties sure?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah? And if you throw like clean ones out of
your pocket, on stage. Yeah, there's no stakd. We are
both parents to two boys each. I know you have
a daughter as well, but our boys five and seven.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And literally the same age.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We're in the exact same boat with our two boys.
And I know we've had this discussion with the aggression
and the fighting non stop. If it's not yelling at
each other, it's hitting and really and not horse play
and wrestling, which is what I remember as a kid.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, I remember growing up with two brothers, but I
remember my brother's always wrestling and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But when I look at my two.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Boys, feels quite aggressive and it's quite confronting for me
as a parent to watch that kind of behavior unfold.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And my husband's always like, oh, you know, they're boys,
just being boys, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
But I'm also like, is it normal for boys to
be so rough and aggressive and angry?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Chris and I don't have the answer, We.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Do not, but I have a feeling parenting expert and
educated Jen Mua might be able to help us out.
She's in the studio with us.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Hey, Jen, she's so happy to be here. Oh, I'm
so glad you're here.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now you think we've got a bad time, Jen, I
know you have four boys, so us combined four boys?
Is that level of aggression normal with boys?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Super normal?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
So here is the thing about boys. They are born
bigger hearted than girls, right, more sensitive, but with less
ability to express those emotions using their words. And what
that means is that boys actually feel things more deeply,
particularly a sense of justice, which will cause a lot
of sibling fighting. And the way that it comes out
(04:19):
in the early years is through aggression or through physicalness.
And it's just important to know that it's super super normal.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Now, is it.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Okay to just let your kids beat the crap out
of each other? Probably not, Like they definitely need help
to learn. Emotions are okay, some behaviors are not. The
biggest thing to know is that normal, average, healthy siblings
fight the most between the ages of three and eight,
and in this period, normal healthy siblings will fight up
to eight times an hour.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, great, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now the sense you've really hit on something there that
I've gone, my god, that's it. The sense of justice
that you boys feel. When I put down the two
dinner plates at nighttime, the first thing they look at
is you've got more. They will count chips and nuggets
and blueberries. Yeah, they don't count the peas, but oh
(05:13):
my god, if Oscar got one more chip.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
So yeah, and particularly for boys, that justice theme is
really really strong. They feel so strongly and so kids
will got he got more than me, and they will fight.
And we think as parents that the role is to
teach or to shut it down or to tell them.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
To stop cut it out.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
If we can just some of the time stop and go, oh, yeah,
it feels like your brother got more.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's tough.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I hate that feeling. Yeah, we don't have to always
fix it or solve it. You don't have to give
that child another nugget. But actually by letting.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Them know that that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
One of the most powerful things I can say to
each of my four kids goes like this, Yeah, it's
really hard.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Being the eldest, youngest, middle chop.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Without a doubt, ninety percent of whatever the angst that
is happening will settle in that one statement, it's really
hard being the youngest.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I get it, and they.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Go, you get it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They feel herd Then.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We can say, can't let you throw a fork at
your brother?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
How are you throw an apercut?
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I'm not gonna let you throw forks at the table.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Right, We've got to find a way to communicate when
your brother's annoying you without throwing a fork.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So the idea is teach boys.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
That those feelings and expressions and emotions are so normal.
It makes sense to feel ragy at your brother. If
you knocks over your lego tower, you should find a
way to communicate that without punching him in the face.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So what do we do when it happens?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So when sibling fights happen, one of the best things
you can do be neutral. Like Switzerland.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
You come in, you are commentating a horse race, right,
instead of you're wrong? He's crying? What is wrong with
you too? You're like this, I see two kids. I
can see things have gone wrong. One of you looks worried.
The other one is crying, looks like things have not
gone well.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Here I'm here.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
I'm going to give this kid a cuddle because he's crying,
and I'm wondering what happened to you guys? And we
just say neutral and they tell you what happened, Like,
he knocked over my tower, so I punched him in
the face.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And now he's crying and you're like, ah, yeah, tricky.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I'd be annoyed if someone knocked over my tower too.
It's not okay to hear though. I'm going to always
stop you from hitting. We don't do that in this family.
And I'm here to help you work out another way.
Next time your brother does this, what could you do
instead of hitting? And to the kid that knocked over
the tower, like, look at your brother's face.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That didn't go well for you.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I know you wanted to engage with him and you
wanted to join in, but knocking over his tower, that
didn't go well for you either.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Just listening to that, I feel like the hardest part
for me would be to stay neutral. A lot of
the time, my kids will start fighting and it will
get really bad when I'm not there, and so when
I am walking into it, it's like we're in an
MMA cage, right and you panic.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And yeah, and I panic.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that's where I would really struggle to stay neutral
because I'm flinging one across the room to get the
other one off. So I think the hardest part, I
think for me is to stay calm and stay neutral.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Biggest tip of all if you are seen unrelenting fighting
between siblings and one child appears to be the protagonist. Yes,
try to give that child some one on one, fully
focused connection. Just love on that kid, because ninety percent
of sibling fighting is about drawing in the parents. Once
we understand what it's actually about and what those fights
(08:19):
over the nuggets are about, actually about justice and being
seen and competing for their kind of their parent figure,
which is everything.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
To them at that age.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
And one day, trust me, they won't they won't fight,
they will gang up on you. That's what's happening in
my house thirteen and fifteen year old. Last night, I
was sort of getting mad at my thirteen year olds
is on watching TVGLA should have been in bed, and
my fifteen year old goes, Mum, why are you crashing
out on him?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Why are you crashing out?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
As in, like were're spending more time with him?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
No, crashing out is when you're losing it. It's slang.
Oh so wow, okay, why you're crashing out?
Speaker 6 (08:53):
He also tells me I'm negative Aura, So you know,
they are now each other's wingman, and they're like, okay,
they're against me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Henry Oscar former team keep fighting boys. So We'll do
that and pause the Lord take Amy, even if you've
been drinking, stay.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Calm ane in your hands, have a sip of wine.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Okay, Now I'm gonna deal with your kids.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Parenting expert extraordinary Genua from your podcast as well, Amy
Beyond the Chaos. Check it out. Thank you so much
for Johnny Skill.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Thank you Chard.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Now, Peggy, I know that Tinder gets a bit of
a bad rap, but can I just say, you know,
the whole saying you've got to kiss a few frogs
to find your print. Sure, well it applies on Tinder,
I can tell you right now.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I currently have a girlfriend who I used to work with.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
She is in the process as we speak this weekend
getting married to an incredibly wealthy, lovely guy over in Italy.
And they met when she was she did like a
saale Croatia and she was sailing around and I think
she jumped off at Dubrovnick and she jumped.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
On Tinder as a single woman. Then she met this guy.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And it's not Bezos Laurence.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's not them, No, I don't know if they're on
Tinder no anyway, So they've kind of hit it off
and then he's followed her to another country and anyway,
long story short, they did long distance. She now lives
over in Debrovnic or wherever it is that he lives.
But they have this really wonderful life together. And I
actually have a very close friend here in Australia who
(10:33):
went out on lots of tinder dates and they were
all duds and they were.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Lots of frogs, lots of frogs, nothing good.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And then all of a sudden she lands on this
sparkly looking rock and they go out on.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
A few dates.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is it a rich rock?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, I don't think it was spoken about off the bat, don't.
I think he kind of kept a few cards to
his chest. Well played by him, Yeah, smart. And it
turns out that he is from a very very well
known Australian brand, Like if you have grown up in Australia,
you know this brand, and when.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You say he's from that brand, it's like that's his
family correct name basically, and he's correct. He's the air
to the he is the air Let.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And it's just so funny because it's obviously completely changed
her life and for the better.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And he's also a great guy.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Those stories are actually more common than you think. Like,
when you think of Tinder, what do you think of
just people meeting ran and casual.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Sex right and probably drinking and regret, walk of shame
with your high heels and your makeup, running going home
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, and look, I'm sure there is a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'm sure there is because a lot of my friends
are frogs, not the married ones. You know who you are.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But I just think it's I think it's one of
those apps as I think dating in general is. I
think you do have to kiss a few frogs to
find your prints. And sometimes it's like you're not going
to jump on the platform and just instantly meet a
nice guy. But let me tell you, I can count
even on two hands incredible great marriages that have happened
(12:15):
from Tinder hookups.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You know what. It's a fairy tale, isn't it? And
it sounds like every chick lit novel that my wife reads.
It's a woman who's, you know, had had a bit
of a hard time lately. She's just lost her job
and found out her boyfriend was cheating on her, so
she's left and she's booked a trip somewhere, but she's
met a mysterious stranger. Oh my god, he's tall and
hand Oh my god. And it turns out he's actually
(12:38):
a prince.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
He's a prom.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And he's a billionaire. And how do you read this shit?
Over and over?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I can tell you two of my girlfriends have had
that exact fairy tale met the prince.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, hang in there, ladies. If you're single and you're
on the Tinder or these dating apps.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yep, you just got to keep digging and keeps swiping,
keeps kissing frogs, because there's a good one out there.
My middle child, my son, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Bobby's the hell raiser, right.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
My spirited child spirit.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
One thing I didn't expect from him is that apparently
he's a fantastic public speaker. So his school does public speaking.
He has set his speech in front of his class.
Then he's made it to the semi finals, and now
he's in the finals and he's going to have to
present in front of his entire school.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He's made it to the assembly, plus.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
All of the parents can come, and obviously we practice
his speech at home, but in the semis and as
well in the finals, he actually gets an impromptu speech,
so they give him a word, and they give him
five minutes to prepare, and then he has to say
a minute and a half long speech.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Gaza won't be that.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But anything right, And I said, oh, you know you
nervous or anything is nut nh Like it's even though
I do a fair bit of public speaking, I still
hate it more than anything in my world.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, because it's cash in hand, and you don't tell
the ato about it. I know why you overcome your
fear of past speaking.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It's never cash in hand, it's but I hate it.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Like I do it, and I like I push myself
to do it because the more I do it, the
easier it becomes, and the better I get at it.
But I get sweaty palms, my hearing goes muffled. I
sometimes want to blank out.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I'm the same as you. I love coming in and
talking to you on the radio because I forget we're
on the radio. It's just we're in a room. There's
no one else around. When I see two hundred faces,
I freeze again. I can't get my words out in
the past. Yeah, I don't drink anymore and I don't
public speak anymore because I needed. Yeah, I have to
have a few quick ones to just take the edge off.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I need a couple of champagnes just to loosen up.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I guess there's the sweet spot, though, was in there
where you have a few in them.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You don't want to have too many.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You don't want to be totally sloppy on stage. Your
son Bobby is in the minority of loving public speaking.
Did you know seventy five percent of people, so three
out of four people name public speaking is one of
their greatest fears in life.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Greatest fears like over being burnt alive, eaten by a crocodile,
or dying.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Public speaking comes up as one of.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
The I mean, I feel like everybody can actually get
it done when they need to, but doing it without
feeling like you want to die or you pass out
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And I reckon your I disagree with you that most
people could even get through it. You dislike it, but
I know you do it. It's like a tax avoidance thing.
But I reckon there's a lot of people who could
physically not do it, would freeze, would faint.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So that is the number one fear.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The most common. What would yours be probably being burnt
alive or the shark, great white shark, crocodile, the death roll.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I would never want to be taken. I feel
like at least being burnt alive. It's over, like I
think apparently your body goes into so much pain that
it all you switch off.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Of the shock.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, it's really morbid. It's really morbid.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Ending didn't I didn't know we were going right into
the burning. I was just it was throw away.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Fear of mine is also heights.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, that'd be a common one.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I have this really weird reoccurring dream, and I have
it all the time that I'm leaning on a balcony
and then the balcony.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Gives a way. It's a version of that almost every night.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I did google it and apparently it's a sign that
you are about to fall into a deep sleep.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So I'm just running with that.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's what they do. Remember the movie inception where they
to come out of the dream, they make them fall, yes, backwards, So.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
There must be a there's something about.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
The dream, Chris pe I swear to god, we do
actually keep trying to cancel this segment, even I get
sick of it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yes, but lately there's just too much goodness coming out.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You can't stop him. He just keeps coming with the gold.
So we've got your weekend Trump date right in it.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats. Well, I
took two tests, cognitive tests. We are very very close
to World War three and Donald Trump and I endorse
this segment. God bless Chris Page and Amy Gerard.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You know why we keep talking about it because he's
a genius at controlling the news cycle.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well, he just likes to stay relevant, doesn't he.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But you know what, he also just moves straight on
from something. It was one week ago we were bombing
Iran and whether or not they actually destroyed the nuclear facilities,
et cetera. No one's talking about it anymore. I'd forgotten
that he bombed Iran a week ago.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well, and then the next day there was a ceasefire,
and he's referencing a twelve day World War three and now.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
And he's swearing on TV.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, he's telling people to f off.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Which is just another distraction. Yeah, and everyone's just moved on. Gone. Ah,
I'd forgotten about Iran.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And what is it now?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He's opened a prison or detention center for illegal immigrants
called Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Oh, so it's a detention center on an island.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's yes, on a lake or something. It's on sort
of a a.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I suppose an island in the middle of the Florida Everglades,
which is basically swamp land riddled with alligators. So if
you escape, if you were able to escape Alligator Alcatraz,
for hundreds of miles in every direction, there's just swamps
and alligators.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So you've got no chance.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You've got no chance. You're better off staying.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Did he put the alligators there or they or he built?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
No, alligators already lived there.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay, so he just built the detention center.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
There, well, the Florida governor did. But Trump's been there
for the opening. He's there. They have Alligator Alcatraz merchandise.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And these I mean illegal immigrants. I know they're illegal
and stuff, but they're still human beings. And you go there,
people are wearing Alligator Alcatraz T shirts while these people.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Are don't stand what he's trying to do for his country.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But like, and I get really torn because they are
illegally there, but there's still a human there's still somebody's
son or a dad or something like that, and he's
just he makes a mockery of human life.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's dehumanized absolutely immigrants, hasn't he? You mentioned did he
put the alligators there? I'm glad you asked, because he
did have an idea a few years ago, and he
was asked about this just the other day. Have a
listen of putting crocodiles in the Rio Grande River. The
Rio grand is the boundary between Texas and Mexico, so
(19:22):
the illegal immigrants sort of crossed the Rio grand River
to get into America. And he had the idea of
getting crocodiles and putting him in the Rio grand and
was asked about that. There's a president of twenty eighteen
you suggested putting alligators in the Rio Grande to prevent
crossings in Texas.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Is this a dream come true for you?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Sir well, I was thinking about that.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I must say it was spent more as a joke,
but the more I thought of it to what I
liked it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
If you want another true.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
And there were seriously, there were actually crocodiles. There were
crocodiles from Africa. They are a step beyond. But no,
that was really meant as a joke, but a lot
of people liked it, and a lot of people think
we should do it Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Which is kind of how he operates. It was said
as a joke, but people liked it, and you feel
that's a lot how he announces most policy. He comes
out with something crazy off the calf, exactly, and if
no one likes it, it was a joke. But if
people will go, yeah, crocodiles, that's it. He goes, oh, yeah,
maybe it wasn't a joke.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
What does he mean? They were from South Africa and
there were a step.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Beyond apparently man eating alligators in Florida not vicious enough.
So he's going to bring the next level crocodile of
South Africa Africa and dump them into a river that's
not their natural habitat. He is America.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
He's terrifying.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, and Donald Trump and I endorsed this segment. God
bless Chris Page and Amy Gerard don't.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Know that we want Gerard, have you ever been on
a cruise? I have people love them or hate them?
The cruises? Was it good with the kids?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
No, I've never done one with the kids. I've done
one for schoolies and that was horrific.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And then I I did one just recently, actually, Virgin Voyages.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That was quite luxy, so it was fine.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I saw a lot of influences on that virgin. Believe me,
the irony of the word virgin in that context has
never been stronger. There was a Disney cruise during the week.
I don't know if you heard this news story, but
amazing and don't worry. It had a happy ending, okay,
but a five year old girl fell overboard what on
a Disney cruise out in the middle of the ocean.
(21:35):
Her dad jumped in and saved. Have a listen to
this news story. It is It's nuts.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
We're hearing from Disney cruise lines. After a family vacation
turns into a terrifying situation. A child fell off a
Disney cruise ship. While let's see the child's father jumping
in to save that child.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Yeah, we have been here talking to passengers. They saw
that rescue. It was hard not to when they come
over the loudspeaker and they say, mister mob which means
man overbore the ship turned around. The passengers I spoke
to described that father treading the ocean water for upwards
of ten medutes. The passengers were just in awe that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
The father job.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'm sorry, I can't listen to that voice any longer,
so we'll lend the story there, happy ending. Everyone's okay.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But that is so said level four or something of
the cruise ship that's really high.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
That is so high, even that impact.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I just cannot even fathom watching your daughter fall overboard.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I would have done exactly the same. I would have
jumped in after my kid.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Everyone's saying hero dad, and yes he is, because he
saved it. But I can't imagine many dads doing Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well, imagine a parent going, oh there she goes.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh there she goes. An inside, I've've done some swimming lessons.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You know what. It is very lucky that one it
was daylight. Imagine that happening at night time. And two
that obviously I.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Think I read that it was going to the Bahamas,
so hopefully the water wasn't too cold, but even treading
water fully clothed, I'm assuming both of them, and the
dad was probably holding.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
The five year old up, of course, but I'm glad
that ended happily.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
They sent the lifeboat out, they got on, and they
were okay. Although the Disney Cruise did say they were
about to start screening the Snow White remake, and the
dad jumped back in to the oceans. Gerard I said
that Sabrina Carpenter wanted to ban stuff from her. I
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know you're a huge fan of upcoming album and the cover.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I hate to admit, but I do enjoy her music.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Her music's great, But I know you're not a big
fan of your daughter. Looking at Sabrina Carpenter being led around.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, her album cover is her on all fours being
pulled by the hair by a man.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Sorry, but I thought it was cool.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Not what does she want to ban? Hopefully it's men.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Phones, because I know, yeah, iPhones, all phones, but they've
become a staple at concerts, right. You know when you
go to a cold Play, for example, and they do
Coldplay do a Night full of Stars or whatever the
song is, and they get everyone, they say turn turn
your light on, and everyone holds it up and it
looks amazing, even when they don't tell you to do that.
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When you look at a concert, it's just phones. It's
just a sea of phones.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But I think that that is if I go to
a concert, I will make sure that any song that
is a favorite of mine, I will record it because yes,
you want to live in the moment and take it
all in, but also you want the memory of that.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And do you ever watch them back? Though?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I mean always, especially with my kids, Like when I
went to the Taylor Swift concert. My daughter has watched
those videos back over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I know, like you were there, but the Taylor Swift
ears to her. It's on Disney. You can go watch it,
and it's been professionally filmed four K cameras. Yeah, not
on your phone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, but it's Sabrina carp and Gonna get Hers on Disney.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
They'd be Sabrina Carpenter concerts. You can search Sabrina Carpenter
live on YouTube. Yeah, and you can go watch her life.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I just think if you are a paying customer, if
you've paid three hundred dollars to go and watch her
in a gig and you're paying to be there, she
doesn't get to dictate whether or not you use your phone.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You've paid to be there.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I would agree with you on that, if you've paid
the concert. The fan is always right, the customer.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Is always right, so mar is always right.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I do look at people. If someone's sitting in front
of me at a concert and they're spending the whole
time on the phone watching it through their phone, I do.
I just feel a bit sad for them, going, you're
not going to get this moment again, come on, live
in It. I get taking a thirty second video, yes, yeah,
your favorite song, but people sit there through the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, you're never.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Gonna watch it back.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't ever video the entire thing of anything. Like
my daughter had a dance concert on the weekend. I
got like a fifteen second video of her, mainly so
I could show her back, But there was mums that
were on the table and they would video the entire
higher concert.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Maybe she wants to get on stage, Maybe she wants
to give some very controversial opinions. Because I went and
saw Dave Chappelle live in It here in Australia, and
you had to put your phones in the sealed thing
they give you, so there were no phones, and he
went he went to town on a whole bunch of
stuff that if you went to town on say here
(26:33):
on the radio, we'd be out of a job.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, there's a place in Sydney, and I know that
when you go there for dinner, they make you put
your phone in a lock box, and that is so one.
You're not constantly taking photos of the meal because you
know a lot of I think it they want to
They want some main, mysterious yeah, and they want the
whole experience to feel new to anyone who's coming in.
(26:56):
Plus they want you to really focus, lean in and
enjoy it, Like I think it's a whole culinary experience,
which I actually think is a really cool idea.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But you're paying three hundred dollars for concert ticket, you're
paying three hundred do to go and have dinner at
this fancy restaurant. The customers should be able to take
a photo if they want.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
You I'm contradicting, contradicting.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The chef is obviously a great chef and an artist
and goes, I don't want photos of my phone. I
want people to enjoy it. Sabrina Carpenter is also an
artist up there on stage, giving all of herself, and
that's what she wants. I think they're I don't think
you can.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
You don't think I can pick a cheese?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I well, I am, I'm all for the Sydney restaurant
locking phones up. But I think Sabrina Cup maybe I'm
just dirty at the album cover.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, maybe I can't get past that.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Good luck with her demographic of fans telling them no phones.
If the Rolling Stones did it and all the old
farts couldn't bring their phones, they'd get away with it.
And it's Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, good luck, Chris,
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, sir, let's go. Good morning that remains to be seen.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Chris Paige and Amy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Good morning, every one have to be Saturday. Well not
for Amy. You are you okay?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
No?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's are you okay?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Day?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm moving it to July five.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I am absolutely ropeable. Actually I'm not even ropeable, and
I'm not even mad. I'm just so disappointed.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Usher canceling his Australian tour. You had your tickets locked in.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Mate, Not just me, everybody.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I know that Usher is like the epitome of my childhood.
Like we all grew up to him dancing, to him
getting ready for our Year ten formula, our Year twelve formal.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
If you want to, don't take a ride with me
enough Nelly, you idiot, I take you to the candy shot.
That's fifty yep. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Anyway, he's canceled his tour. Everybody's filthy. We are getting
our money back, thank god. But I just you know,
I never ever ever get excited about going to concerts,
and I will very rarely be bothered to even go
to one. But when I saw Usher touring, like it
was unanimous amongst all my girlfriends that we are going
and we I'm so excited. I was so excited, Like,
(01:41):
this is horrible.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I would have liked to go chic songs.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You don't even know a single one.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Because I'm so sick of love songs.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
There, that's shot, that's neo.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Is it getting jiggy with it?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Nana?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Nana?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Will Smith cramming a river? My god, I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I'm more offended by the singing voice or the fact
that that was actually justin Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Really yeah, Well, I'm sorry for you and the girls,
so you won't get to say all these great songs.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, we're gonna take our undies and throw them at him.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Really, yeah, when you throw your undies on stage your
favorite singer, do you take the undies you're wearing off
and throw them or do you take a spare pair
in your pocket to throw?
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean, I was only joking, and I'm assuming that
people take them off then and there.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I'm so hot right now. Take my panties sure?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah? And if you throw like clean ones out of
your pocket, on stage. Yeah, there's no stakd. We are
both parents to two boys each. I know you have
a daughter as well, but our boys five and seven.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
And literally the same age.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
We're in the exact same boat with our two boys.
And I know we've had this discussion with the aggression
and the fighting non stop. If it's not yelling at
each other, it's hitting and really and not horse play
and wrestling, which is what I remember as a kid.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Well, I remember growing up with two brothers, but I
remember my brother's always wrestling and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But when I look at my two.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Boys, feels quite aggressive and it's quite confronting for me
as a parent to watch that kind of behavior unfold.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
And my husband's always like, oh, you know, they're boys,
just being boys, and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
But I'm also like, is it normal for boys to
be so rough and aggressive and angry?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Chris and I don't have the answer, We.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Do not, but I have a feeling parenting expert and
educated Jen Mua might be able to help us out.
She's in the studio with us.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Hey, Jen, she's so happy to be here. Oh, I'm
so glad you're here.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Now you think we've got a bad time, Jen, I
know you have four boys, so us combined four boys?
Is that level of aggression normal with boys?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Super normal?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
So here is the thing about boys. They are born
bigger hearted than girls, right, more sensitive, but with less
ability to express those emotions using their words. And what
that means is that boys actually feel things more deeply,
particularly a sense of justice, which will cause a lot
of sibling fighting. And the way that it comes out
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in the early years is through aggression or through physicalness.
And it's just important to know that it's super super normal.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
Now, is it.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Okay to just let your kids beat the crap out
of each other? Probably not, Like they definitely need help
to learn. Emotions are okay, some behaviors are not. The
biggest thing to know is that normal, average, healthy siblings
fight the most between the ages of three and eight,
and in this period, normal healthy siblings will fight up
to eight times an hour.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Okay, great, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now the sense you've really hit on something there that
I've gone, my god, that's it. The sense of justice
that you boys feel. When I put down the two
dinner plates at nighttime, the first thing they look at
is you've got more. They will count chips and nuggets
and blueberries. Yeah, they don't count the peas, but oh
(05:13):
my god, if Oscar got one more chip.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
So yeah, and particularly for boys, that justice theme is
really really strong. They feel so strongly and so kids
will got he got more than me, and they will fight.
And we think as parents that the role is to
teach or to shut it down or to tell them.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
To stop cut it out.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
If we can just some of the time stop and go, oh, yeah,
it feels like your brother got more.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's tough.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I hate that feeling. Yeah, we don't have to always
fix it or solve it. You don't have to give
that child another nugget. But actually by letting.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Them know that that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
One of the most powerful things I can say to
each of my four kids goes like this, Yeah, it's
really hard.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
Being the eldest, youngest, middle chop.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Without a doubt, ninety percent of whatever the angst that
is happening will settle in that one statement, it's really
hard being the youngest.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I get it, and they.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Go, you get it.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
They feel herd Then.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We can say, can't let you throw a fork at
your brother?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
How are you throw an apercut?
Speaker 7 (06:10):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I'm not gonna let you throw forks at the table.
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Right, We've got to find a way to communicate when
your brother's annoying you without throwing a fork.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
So the idea is teach boys.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
That those feelings and expressions and emotions are so normal.
It makes sense to feel ragy at your brother. If
you knocks over your lego tower, you should find a
way to communicate that without punching him in the face.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
So what do we do when it happens?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So when sibling fights happen, one of the best things
you can do be neutral. Like Switzerland.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
You come in, you are commentating a horse race, right,
instead of you're wrong? He's crying? What is wrong with
you too? You're like this, I see two kids. I
can see things have gone wrong. One of you looks worried.
The other one is crying, looks like things have not
gone well.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Here I'm here.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
I'm going to give this kid a cuddle because he's crying,
and I'm wondering what happened to you guys? And we
just say neutral and they tell you what happened, Like,
he knocked over my tower, so I punched him in
the face.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And now he's crying and you're like, ah, yeah, tricky.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I'd be annoyed if someone knocked over my tower too.
It's not okay to hear though. I'm going to always
stop you from hitting. We don't do that in this family.
And I'm here to help you work out another way.
Next time your brother does this, what could you do
instead of hitting? And to the kid that knocked over
the tower, like, look at your brother's face.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
That didn't go well for you.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
I know you wanted to engage with him and you
wanted to join in, but knocking over his tower, that
didn't go well for you either.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Just listening to that, I feel like the hardest part
for me would be to stay neutral. A lot of
the time, my kids will start fighting and it will
get really bad when I'm not there, and so when
I am walking into it, it's like we're in an
MMA cage, right and you panic.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
And yeah, and I panic.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
And that's where I would really struggle to stay neutral
because I'm flinging one across the room to get the
other one off. So I think the hardest part, I
think for me is to stay calm and stay neutral.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Biggest tip of all if you are seen unrelenting fighting
between siblings and one child appears to be the protagonist. Yes,
try to give that child some one on one, fully
focused connection. Just love on that kid, because ninety percent
of sibling fighting is about drawing in the parents. Once
we understand what it's actually about and what those fights
(08:19):
over the nuggets are about, actually about justice and being
seen and competing for their kind of their parent figure,
which is everything.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
To them at that age.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
And one day, trust me, they won't they won't fight,
they will gang up on you. That's what's happening in
my house thirteen and fifteen year old. Last night, I
was sort of getting mad at my thirteen year olds
is on watching TVGLA should have been in bed, and
my fifteen year old goes, Mum, why are you crashing
out on him?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Why are you crashing out?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
As in, like were're spending more time with him?
Speaker 5 (08:47):
No, crashing out is when you're losing it. It's slang.
Oh so wow, okay, why you're crashing out?
Speaker 6 (08:53):
He also tells me I'm negative Aura, So you know,
they are now each other's wingman, and they're like, okay,
they're against me.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Henry Oscar former team keep fighting boys. So We'll do
that and pause the Lord take Amy, even if you've
been drinking, stay.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Calm ane in your hands, have a sip of wine.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Okay, Now I'm gonna deal with your kids.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Parenting expert extraordinary Genua from your podcast as well, Amy
Beyond the Chaos. Check it out. Thank you so much
for Johnny Skill.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Thank you Chard.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Now, Peggy, I know that Tinder gets a bit of
a bad rap, but can I just say, you know,
the whole saying you've got to kiss a few frogs
to find your print. Sure, well it applies on Tinder,
I can tell you right now.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I currently have a girlfriend who I used to work with.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
She is in the process as we speak this weekend
getting married to an incredibly wealthy, lovely guy over in Italy.
And they met when she was she did like a
saale Croatia and she was sailing around and I think
she jumped off at Dubrovnick and she jumped.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
On Tinder as a single woman. Then she met this guy.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
And it's not Bezos Laurence.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's not them, No, I don't know if they're on
Tinder no anyway, So they've kind of hit it off
and then he's followed her to another country and anyway,
long story short, they did long distance. She now lives
over in Debrovnic or wherever it is that he lives.
But they have this really wonderful life together. And I
actually have a very close friend here in Australia who
(10:33):
went out on lots of tinder dates and they were
all duds and they were.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Lots of frogs, lots of frogs, nothing good.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
And then all of a sudden she lands on this
sparkly looking rock and they go out on.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
A few dates.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Is it a rich rock?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Well, I don't think it was spoken about off the bat, don't.
I think he kind of kept a few cards to
his chest. Well played by him, Yeah, smart. And it
turns out that he is from a very very well
known Australian brand, Like if you have grown up in Australia,
you know this brand, and when.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You say he's from that brand, it's like that's his
family correct name basically, and he's correct. He's the air
to the he is the air Let.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And it's just so funny because it's obviously completely changed
her life and for the better.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
And he's also a great guy.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Those stories are actually more common than you think. Like,
when you think of Tinder, what do you think of
just people meeting ran and casual.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Sex right and probably drinking and regret, walk of shame
with your high heels and your makeup, running going home
in the morning.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, and look, I'm sure there is a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I'm sure there is because a lot of my friends
are frogs, not the married ones. You know who you are.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
But I just think it's I think it's one of
those apps as I think dating in general is. I
think you do have to kiss a few frogs to
find your prints. And sometimes it's like you're not going
to jump on the platform and just instantly meet a
nice guy. But let me tell you, I can count
even on two hands incredible great marriages that have happened
(12:15):
from Tinder hookups.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You know what. It's a fairy tale, isn't it? And
it sounds like every chick lit novel that my wife reads.
It's a woman who's, you know, had had a bit
of a hard time lately. She's just lost her job
and found out her boyfriend was cheating on her, so
she's left and she's booked a trip somewhere, but she's
met a mysterious stranger. Oh my god, he's tall and
hand Oh my god. And it turns out he's actually
(12:38):
a prince.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
He's a prom.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
And he's a billionaire. And how do you read this shit?
Over and over?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I can tell you two of my girlfriends have had
that exact fairy tale met the prince.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, hang in there, ladies. If you're single and you're
on the Tinder or these dating apps.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yep, you just got to keep digging and keeps swiping,
keeps kissing frogs, because there's a good one out there.
My middle child, my son, Bobby.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Bobby's the hell raiser, right.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
My spirited child spirit.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
One thing I didn't expect from him is that apparently
he's a fantastic public speaker. So his school does public speaking.
He has set his speech in front of his class.
Then he's made it to the semi finals, and now
he's in the finals and he's going to have to
present in front of his entire school.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He's made it to the assembly, plus.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
All of the parents can come, and obviously we practice
his speech at home, but in the semis and as
well in the finals, he actually gets an impromptu speech,
so they give him a word, and they give him
five minutes to prepare, and then he has to say
a minute and a half long speech.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Gaza won't be that.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
But anything right, And I said, oh, you know you
nervous or anything is nut nh Like it's even though
I do a fair bit of public speaking, I still
hate it more than anything in my world.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, because it's cash in hand, and you don't tell
the ato about it. I know why you overcome your
fear of past speaking.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It's never cash in hand, it's but I hate it.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Like I do it, and I like I push myself
to do it because the more I do it, the
easier it becomes, and the better I get at it.
But I get sweaty palms, my hearing goes muffled. I
sometimes want to blank out.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I'm the same as you. I love coming in and
talking to you on the radio because I forget we're
on the radio. It's just we're in a room. There's
no one else around. When I see two hundred faces,
I freeze again. I can't get my words out in
the past. Yeah, I don't drink anymore and I don't
public speak anymore because I needed. Yeah, I have to
have a few quick ones to just take the edge off.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I need a couple of champagnes just to loosen up.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
I guess there's the sweet spot, though, was in there
where you have a few in them.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
You don't want to have too many.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
You don't want to be totally sloppy on stage. Your
son Bobby is in the minority of loving public speaking.
Did you know seventy five percent of people, so three
out of four people name public speaking is one of
their greatest fears in life.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Greatest fears like over being burnt alive, eaten by a crocodile,
or dying.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Public speaking comes up as one of.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
The I mean, I feel like everybody can actually get
it done when they need to, but doing it without
feeling like you want to die or you pass out
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And I reckon your I disagree with you that most
people could even get through it. You dislike it, but
I know you do it. It's like a tax avoidance thing.
But I reckon there's a lot of people who could
physically not do it, would freeze, would faint.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
So that is the number one fear.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
The most common. What would yours be probably being burnt
alive or the shark, great white shark, crocodile, the death roll.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, I would never want to be taken. I feel
like at least being burnt alive. It's over, like I
think apparently your body goes into so much pain that
it all you switch off.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Of the shock.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Yeah, it's really morbid. It's really morbid.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Ending didn't I didn't know we were going right into
the burning. I was just it was throw away.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Fear of mine is also heights.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, that'd be a common one.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I have this really weird reoccurring dream, and I have
it all the time that I'm leaning on a balcony
and then the balcony.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Gives a way. It's a version of that almost every night.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I did google it and apparently it's a sign that
you are about to fall into a deep sleep.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
So I'm just running with that.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
That's what they do. Remember the movie inception where they
to come out of the dream, they make them fall, yes, backwards, So.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
There must be a there's something about.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
The dream, Chris pe I swear to god, we do
actually keep trying to cancel this segment, even I get
sick of it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yes, but lately there's just too much goodness coming out.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You can't stop him. He just keeps coming with the gold.
So we've got your weekend Trump date right in it.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats. Well, I
took two tests, cognitive tests. We are very very close
to World War three and Donald Trump and I endorse
this segment. God bless Chris Page and Amy Gerard.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
You know why we keep talking about it because he's
a genius at controlling the news cycle.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Well, he just likes to stay relevant, doesn't he.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But you know what, he also just moves straight on
from something. It was one week ago we were bombing
Iran and whether or not they actually destroyed the nuclear facilities,
et cetera. No one's talking about it anymore. I'd forgotten
that he bombed Iran a week ago.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well, and then the next day there was a ceasefire,
and he's referencing a twelve day World War three and now.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
And he's swearing on TV.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, he's telling people to f off.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Which is just another distraction. Yeah, and everyone's just moved on. Gone. Ah,
I'd forgotten about Iran.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And what is it now?
Speaker 2 (17:47):
He's opened a prison or detention center for illegal immigrants
called Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Oh, so it's a detention center on an island.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's yes, on a lake or something. It's on sort
of a a.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I suppose an island in the middle of the Florida Everglades,
which is basically swamp land riddled with alligators. So if
you escape, if you were able to escape Alligator Alcatraz,
for hundreds of miles in every direction, there's just swamps
and alligators.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So you've got no chance.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
You've got no chance. You're better off staying.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Did he put the alligators there or they or he built?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
No, alligators already lived there.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay, so he just built the detention center.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
There, well, the Florida governor did. But Trump's been there
for the opening. He's there. They have Alligator Alcatraz merchandise.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And these I mean illegal immigrants. I know they're illegal
and stuff, but they're still human beings. And you go there,
people are wearing Alligator Alcatraz T shirts while these people.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Are don't stand what he's trying to do for his country.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
But like, and I get really torn because they are
illegally there, but there's still a human there's still somebody's
son or a dad or something like that, and he's
just he makes a mockery of human life.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
He's dehumanized absolutely immigrants, hasn't he? You mentioned did he
put the alligators there? I'm glad you asked, because he
did have an idea a few years ago, and he
was asked about this just the other day. Have a
listen of putting crocodiles in the Rio Grande River. The
Rio grand is the boundary between Texas and Mexico, so
(19:22):
the illegal immigrants sort of crossed the Rio grand River
to get into America. And he had the idea of
getting crocodiles and putting him in the Rio grand and
was asked about that. There's a president of twenty eighteen
you suggested putting alligators in the Rio Grande to prevent
crossings in Texas.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
Is this a dream come true for you?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Sir well, I was thinking about that.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I must say it was spent more as a joke,
but the more I thought of it to what I
liked it.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
If you want another true.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
And there were seriously, there were actually crocodiles. There were
crocodiles from Africa. They are a step beyond. But no,
that was really meant as a joke, but a lot
of people liked it, and a lot of people think
we should do it Franklin.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Which is kind of how he operates. It was said
as a joke, but people liked it, and you feel
that's a lot how he announces most policy. He comes
out with something crazy off the calf, exactly, and if
no one likes it, it was a joke. But if
people will go, yeah, crocodiles, that's it. He goes, oh, yeah,
maybe it wasn't a joke.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
What does he mean? They were from South Africa and
there were a step.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Beyond apparently man eating alligators in Florida not vicious enough.
So he's going to bring the next level crocodile of
South Africa Africa and dump them into a river that's
not their natural habitat. He is America.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
He's terrifying.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Yeah, and Donald Trump and I endorsed this segment. God
bless Chris Page and Amy Gerard don't.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Know that we want Gerard, have you ever been on
a cruise? I have people love them or hate them?
The cruises? Was it good with the kids?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
No, I've never done one with the kids. I've done
one for schoolies and that was horrific.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
And then I I did one just recently, actually, Virgin Voyages.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
That was quite luxy, so it was fine.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I saw a lot of influences on that virgin. Believe me,
the irony of the word virgin in that context has
never been stronger. There was a Disney cruise during the week.
I don't know if you heard this news story, but
amazing and don't worry. It had a happy ending, okay,
but a five year old girl fell overboard what on
a Disney cruise out in the middle of the ocean.
(21:35):
Her dad jumped in and saved. Have a listen to
this news story. It is It's nuts.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
We're hearing from Disney cruise lines. After a family vacation
turns into a terrifying situation. A child fell off a
Disney cruise ship. While let's see the child's father jumping
in to save that child.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
Yeah, we have been here talking to passengers. They saw
that rescue. It was hard not to when they come
over the loudspeaker and they say, mister mob which means
man overbore the ship turned around. The passengers I spoke
to described that father treading the ocean water for upwards
of ten medutes. The passengers were just in awe that.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
The father job.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
I'm sorry, I can't listen to that voice any longer,
so we'll lend the story there, happy ending. Everyone's okay.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
But that is so said level four or something of
the cruise ship that's really high.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
That is so high, even that impact.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I just cannot even fathom watching your daughter fall overboard.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I would have done exactly the same. I would have
jumped in after my kid.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Everyone's saying hero dad, and yes he is, because he
saved it. But I can't imagine many dads doing Oh.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Well, imagine a parent going, oh there she goes.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Oh there she goes. An inside, I've've done some swimming lessons.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
You know what. It is very lucky that one it
was daylight. Imagine that happening at night time. And two
that obviously I.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Think I read that it was going to the Bahamas,
so hopefully the water wasn't too cold, but even treading
water fully clothed, I'm assuming both of them, and the
dad was probably holding.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
The five year old up, of course, but I'm glad
that ended happily.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
They sent the lifeboat out, they got on, and they
were okay. Although the Disney Cruise did say they were
about to start screening the Snow White remake, and the
dad jumped back in to the oceans. Gerard I said
that Sabrina Carpenter wanted to ban stuff from her. I
(23:40):
know you're a huge fan of upcoming album and the cover.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I hate to admit, but I do enjoy her music.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Her music's great, But I know you're not a big
fan of your daughter. Looking at Sabrina Carpenter being led around.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, her album cover is her on all fours being
pulled by the hair by a man.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Sorry, but I thought it was cool.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Not what does she want to ban? Hopefully it's men.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Phones, because I know, yeah, iPhones, all phones, but they've
become a staple at concerts, right. You know when you
go to a cold Play, for example, and they do
Coldplay do a Night full of Stars or whatever the
song is, and they get everyone, they say turn turn
your light on, and everyone holds it up and it
looks amazing, even when they don't tell you to do that.
(24:27):
When you look at a concert, it's just phones. It's
just a sea of phones.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But I think that that is if I go to
a concert, I will make sure that any song that
is a favorite of mine, I will record it because yes,
you want to live in the moment and take it
all in, but also you want the memory of that.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
And do you ever watch them back? Though?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
I mean always, especially with my kids, Like when I
went to the Taylor Swift concert. My daughter has watched
those videos back over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
I know, like you were there, but the Taylor Swift
ears to her. It's on Disney. You can go watch it,
and it's been professionally filmed four K cameras. Yeah, not
on your phone.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, but it's Sabrina carp and Gonna get Hers on Disney.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
They'd be Sabrina Carpenter concerts. You can search Sabrina Carpenter
live on YouTube. Yeah, and you can go watch her life.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I just think if you are a paying customer, if
you've paid three hundred dollars to go and watch her
in a gig and you're paying to be there, she
doesn't get to dictate whether or not you use your phone.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
You've paid to be there.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I would agree with you on that, if you've paid
the concert. The fan is always right, the customer.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Is always right, so mar is always right.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I do look at people. If someone's sitting in front
of me at a concert and they're spending the whole
time on the phone watching it through their phone, I do.
I just feel a bit sad for them, going, you're
not going to get this moment again, come on, live
in It. I get taking a thirty second video, yes, yeah,
your favorite song, but people sit there through the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Yeah, you're never.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Gonna watch it back.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I don't ever video the entire thing of anything. Like
my daughter had a dance concert on the weekend. I
got like a fifteen second video of her, mainly so
I could show her back, But there was mums that
were on the table and they would video the entire
higher concert.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Maybe she wants to get on stage, Maybe she wants
to give some very controversial opinions. Because I went and
saw Dave Chappelle live in It here in Australia, and
you had to put your phones in the sealed thing
they give you, so there were no phones, and he
went he went to town on a whole bunch of
stuff that if you went to town on say here
(26:33):
on the radio, we'd be out of a job.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, there's a place in Sydney, and I know that
when you go there for dinner, they make you put
your phone in a lock box, and that is so one.
You're not constantly taking photos of the meal because you
know a lot of I think it they want to
They want some main, mysterious yeah, and they want the
whole experience to feel new to anyone who's coming in.
(26:56):
Plus they want you to really focus, lean in and
enjoy it, Like I think it's a whole culinary experience,
which I actually think is a really cool idea.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
But you're paying three hundred dollars for concert ticket, you're
paying three hundred do to go and have dinner at
this fancy restaurant. The customers should be able to take
a photo if they want.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
You I'm contradicting, contradicting.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
The chef is obviously a great chef and an artist
and goes, I don't want photos of my phone. I
want people to enjoy it. Sabrina Carpenter is also an
artist up there on stage, giving all of herself, and
that's what she wants. I think they're I don't think
you can.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
You don't think I can pick a cheese?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I well, I am, I'm all for the Sydney restaurant
locking phones up. But I think Sabrina Cup maybe I'm
just dirty at the album cover.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, maybe I can't get past that.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Good luck with her demographic of fans telling them no phones.
If the Rolling Stones did it and all the old
farts couldn't bring their phones, they'd get away with it.
And it's Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, good luck, Chris,
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