As Clairsy & Lisa continue to learn how to draw for Poorly Drawn Pets, they enlisted some help from a professional artist, their friend and comedian Jon Pinder who is also a tattoo artist. He gave the guys (especially Lisa) some tips on how to draw the perfect pet.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Johnny Pinder is in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yes, he's already Uh, someone who has put their pet
in for a portrait. He's getting a really good deal
because john has already done one while he was waiting.
And it's a proper professional.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To be fair. That is one of the best looking
dogs I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
A beautiful dog.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
It's got it's got a costumer. It's easy to do
a nice portrait of an animal when it looks.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Like it's just popped out of a Disney thing? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Would we say that was aoodle.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's definitely one of those kind of oodle.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's an noodle for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's Oh, you're in for a trade. You are going
to frame this beauty.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I can't draw.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I haven't seen any of these.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Masterpieces from mister pieces from yesterday's good stuff. Maybe not
Marcus in a number because every no I want.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I remember seeing some years ago there was a thing
somebody did a drawing competition type thing, didn't they on
the internet, And somebody had drawn this almost felt a
realistic dog, and then some little kid had just sort
of done what was in their heart right and it
was ridiculous, and the kid won the competition. But That's
a character thing, isn't it. I don't always have to be.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And what we are.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Doing, this initiative, it's a beautiful thing that we're doing
with the cat have to raise money, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Called poorly drawn pets. Now we are not promising well
you know pets.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We are promising amateur sort of You know, did you receive.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It in the spirit with which it was intended? If anything?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
For me, I'm dead last because.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I've renegged on the deal. If phto as well as.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
A comedy are as we know a tattoo as we do.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You know that you could draw.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I started to know that I could draw, or I
started to guess that perhaps I could draw when Mi
Nana was arping on about it.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
When I was little, she took me to see Hook.
Do you remember Hook?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Some it was largely dismissed that movie, but there's a
certain certain sort of generation of people for whom it
is the holy movie. And I was one of them people.
And Robin William you can't beat it as a Peter
Pan film. Julia robers tinker Bell, Yeah, yeah, ideal, that's
what you want in a tinker Bell.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You want Julia Roberts.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And we went and watched that a cinema in Manchester,
and I came home and apparently drew them in exquisite
detail in birol Mi. Nana kept them and she'd up
on about and for years. And when she passed away
and my mum was like clearing out her house and stuff,
she found those drawings. She goes, you never guess what
I've found. She goes, I found you, Peter Pan and
your captain. She sent to me god awful, dreadful drawing
(02:56):
for any age he went from memory, real bad. Yeah,
I think she was, But I think perhaps she Yeah,
I think perhaps she just decided to instill some confidence
in me that kept me drawing. I don't know, and
he just improved and I was just delusional enough to
go along with it for many years.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Can I just say, John, you do two of the
things for me. You do two of the things that
would be the filming with the most dread Right, So
you stand on stage and you do comedy and then
you go and put tattoo art on people's bodies. You
can't make a mistake.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, Well, I mean I would argue there that you
do a thing that fills me with the most dread
which is getting up this earlier.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, everybody's got a special thing. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
They say you can't make a mistake in tattoos, but
I don't know if you've walked around many shoppings lately,
I would say it's relatively accepted. Because you walk around
any westfield, you'll be lucky to spot a good tattoo, right,
wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, but your standard pretty we're.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Almost proud of it in w A, I think as well.
You know, I think that's why they start doing the
barley sleeve. They sort of want it to look a
little bit now.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So I'm about to say there's a little bit too
much getting it, you know offshore.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
They don't bother about goods so much as they are
about quick get down.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I've always been four grand on
the whole thing. Yeah, able to drink absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, all right, now, Claise is not too bad. You've
seen you saw his cat and you saw.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm still defending yours. I think there's something zen about charm. Yeah,
the single lines, see Claes, He's had effort and sketch.
You could see that the man was it was aiming
heighth Yeah, whereas yours is a collection of circles squiggles.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, there is a lot of people send us some little,
you know, clues as to how you do draw. It
was usually a cat based on circles. Yeah, is this
is this a thing? Would you recommend? That's my googling
those sort of sights? I think what would your biggest usually? Right,
this is legitimate drawing tips. This is this is no
(05:06):
longer going to be having a laugh and being finn.
If I'm boring, I apology.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Simply yeah, simplify it into like you can usually separate
things into not even necessarily circles, but sort of shapes.
Like when I drew that we diddly doodle kind of curly.
I separated as we snooter, you know, the snouty bit
into a kind of I don't know, burger bond shape,
(05:33):
and then a little sort of upside down triangle shape
for the nose.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The eyes were ovals, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And if you look at things in blocks and simplify things,
you can get My daughter has terrible trouble with this
because she always wants things to start looking beautiful and
realistic from the very.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Moment she starts, I just can't, so she gets so.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
When I was little and I would drive my dad
and get so angry at me because I would start
to draw a portrait of somebody and I would have
this perfect nose and then I would go from there
and do the arch of the eyebrow, and then I
get this wonderfully realistic eye, and then I do the
other eye.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But it was all squiffy, and I would throw it away. Yeah,
I would.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I would go again, over and over, and it took
me years to realize.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Just draw it in very very simple chips. Yeah, draw
a little and then you can then you can add
to it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, go over it and just scribble over
it until it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Big picture, not one feature at a time.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, that's it. And people don't like People don't really
like neatness. People are overly fixated when they try and
draw something on neatness day in the lines you've got
to People don't want that. People like a sketch. People
like it scribbly. If you show somebody at if you've
drawn up a tattoo for somebody, they very rarely. If
you've put all every collar and shade and every nice
(06:50):
neat line in there.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's when they go, do you think they can change
this bit? You think they could put this if you
show them like a really loose scribble a guy? That's
so good? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Sorry, that was
me imitating my customers.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So John, you think maybe not aim so high next
because my cat ended up having eyes like Fagan from
all Between.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, you're just reminded me of those medieval cat you know,
in those like Renaissance paintings. It was branding up on
two legs. It was playing a flute, marching into battle.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
John, thank you so much. Thanks for having us advice.
We might be able to hit you up for another portrait. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Someone donated one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will do that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, I'll do that, and I'll make it real nice
because I'm a I'm a cat person. I like this
cat Haven charity. I'm a cat person.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Dogs you know Lotts. Did the person say I'll give
you a hundred dollars for Lisa lot to do it?
What it was?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They probably wanted one of the forty players. They probably
wanted it's a bit of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, and when you had it, can you draw Lisa.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I would never, would never, never draw a lady's You
know this friends, Yeah, she's wearing the heart of the ocean.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I was thinking about nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I was thinking about ka quins.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Johnny, thank you.
Johnny Pinder is in the building.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yes, he's already Uh, someone who has put their pet
in for a portrait. He's getting a really good deal
because john has already done one while he was waiting.
And it's a proper professional.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
To be fair. That is one of the best looking
dogs I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
A beautiful dog.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
It's got it's got a costumer. It's easy to do
a nice portrait of an animal when it looks.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Like it's just popped out of a Disney thing? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Would we say that was aoodle.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's definitely one of those kind of oodle.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's an noodle for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
It's Oh, you're in for a trade. You are going
to frame this beauty.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I can't draw.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I haven't seen any of these.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Masterpieces from mister pieces from yesterday's good stuff. Maybe not
Marcus in a number because every no I want.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I remember seeing some years ago there was a thing
somebody did a drawing competition type thing, didn't they on
the internet, And somebody had drawn this almost felt a
realistic dog, and then some little kid had just sort
of done what was in their heart right and it
was ridiculous, and the kid won the competition. But That's
a character thing, isn't it. I don't always have to be.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And what we are.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Doing, this initiative, it's a beautiful thing that we're doing
with the cat have to raise money, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Called poorly drawn pets. Now we are not promising well
you know pets.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We are promising amateur sort of You know, did you receive.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It in the spirit with which it was intended? If anything?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
For me, I'm dead last because.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I've renegged on the deal. If phto as well as.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
A comedy are as we know a tattoo as we do.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
You know that you could draw.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
I started to know that I could draw, or I
started to guess that perhaps I could draw when Mi
Nana was arping on about it.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
When I was little, she took me to see Hook.
Do you remember Hook?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Some it was largely dismissed that movie, but there's a
certain certain sort of generation of people for whom it
is the holy movie. And I was one of them people.
And Robin William you can't beat it as a Peter
Pan film. Julia robers tinker Bell, Yeah, yeah, ideal, that's
what you want in a tinker Bell.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
You want Julia Roberts.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And we went and watched that a cinema in Manchester,
and I came home and apparently drew them in exquisite
detail in birol Mi. Nana kept them and she'd up
on about and for years. And when she passed away
and my mum was like clearing out her house and stuff,
she found those drawings. She goes, you never guess what
I've found. She goes, I found you, Peter Pan and
your captain. She sent to me god awful, dreadful drawing
(02:56):
for any age he went from memory, real bad. Yeah,
I think she was, But I think perhaps she Yeah,
I think perhaps she just decided to instill some confidence
in me that kept me drawing. I don't know, and
he just improved and I was just delusional enough to
go along with it for many years.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Can I just say, John, you do two of the
things for me. You do two of the things that
would be the filming with the most dread Right, So
you stand on stage and you do comedy and then
you go and put tattoo art on people's bodies. You
can't make a mistake.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, Well, I mean I would argue there that you
do a thing that fills me with the most dread
which is getting up this earlier.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, everybody's got a special thing. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
They say you can't make a mistake in tattoos, but
I don't know if you've walked around many shoppings lately,
I would say it's relatively accepted. Because you walk around
any westfield, you'll be lucky to spot a good tattoo, right,
wouldn't you.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, but your standard pretty we're.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Almost proud of it in w A, I think as well.
You know, I think that's why they start doing the
barley sleeve. They sort of want it to look a
little bit now.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
So I'm about to say there's a little bit too
much getting it, you know offshore.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
They don't bother about goods so much as they are
about quick get down.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah. I've always been four grand on
the whole thing. Yeah, able to drink absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, all right, now, Claise is not too bad. You've
seen you saw his cat and you saw.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm still defending yours. I think there's something zen about charm. Yeah,
the single lines, see Claes, He's had effort and sketch.
You could see that the man was it was aiming
heighth Yeah, whereas yours is a collection of circles squiggles.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Well, there is a lot of people send us some little,
you know, clues as to how you do draw. It
was usually a cat based on circles. Yeah, is this
is this a thing? Would you recommend? That's my googling
those sort of sights? I think what would your biggest usually? Right,
this is legitimate drawing tips. This is this is no
(05:06):
longer going to be having a laugh and being finn.
If I'm boring, I apology.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Simply yeah, simplify it into like you can usually separate
things into not even necessarily circles, but sort of shapes.
Like when I drew that we diddly doodle kind of curly.
I separated as we snooter, you know, the snouty bit
into a kind of I don't know, burger bond shape,
(05:33):
and then a little sort of upside down triangle shape
for the nose.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The eyes were ovals, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And if you look at things in blocks and simplify things,
you can get My daughter has terrible trouble with this
because she always wants things to start looking beautiful and
realistic from the very.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Moment she starts, I just can't, so she gets so.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
When I was little and I would drive my dad
and get so angry at me because I would start
to draw a portrait of somebody and I would have
this perfect nose and then I would go from there
and do the arch of the eyebrow, and then I
get this wonderfully realistic eye, and then I do the
other eye.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
But it was all squiffy, and I would throw it away. Yeah,
I would.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I would go again, over and over, and it took
me years to realize.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Just draw it in very very simple chips. Yeah, draw
a little and then you can then you can add
to it.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah yeah, yeah, go over it and just scribble over
it until it's the.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Big picture, not one feature at a time.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, that's it. And people don't like People don't really
like neatness. People are overly fixated when they try and
draw something on neatness day in the lines you've got
to People don't want that. People like a sketch. People
like it scribbly. If you show somebody at if you've
drawn up a tattoo for somebody, they very rarely. If
you've put all every collar and shade and every nice
(06:50):
neat line in there.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
That's when they go, do you think they can change
this bit? You think they could put this if you
show them like a really loose scribble a guy? That's
so good? Yeah, yeah, let's do it. Sorry, that was
me imitating my customers.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
So John, you think maybe not aim so high next
because my cat ended up having eyes like Fagan from
all Between.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Yeah, you're just reminded me of those medieval cat you know,
in those like Renaissance paintings. It was branding up on
two legs. It was playing a flute, marching into battle.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
John, thank you so much. Thanks for having us advice.
We might be able to hit you up for another portrait. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Someone donated one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I will do that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yeah, I'll do that, and I'll make it real nice
because I'm a I'm a cat person. I like this
cat Haven charity. I'm a cat person.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Dogs you know Lotts. Did the person say I'll give
you a hundred dollars for Lisa lot to do it?
What it was?
Speaker 3 (07:48):
They probably wanted one of the forty players. They probably
wanted it's a bit of fun.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, and when you had it, can you draw Lisa.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I would never, would never, never draw a lady's You
know this friends, Yeah, she's wearing the heart of the ocean.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, I was thinking about nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I was thinking about ka quins.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Johnny, thank you.
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