May 1, 2024 • 17 mins
Clairsy & Lisa’s journey back to 1984 continued today as they caught up with the Captain of the Australian Cricket Team in 1984, Kim Hughes. He talked to the guys about playing with cricket greats Dennis Lillee, Rod Marsh & Greg Chappell, the controversial tour to South Africa at the height of the Apartheid movement and his battle with the bottle.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
We thought we'd keep the sport trend going today lies
and he is a name for it. Seventy Test matches,
nine centuries, twenty two fifties. This man made in his
cricket career twelve seven hundred and eleven first class runs
and he was a proud west Dozy and of course
captain of the Australian cricket team.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Kim Hughes, good morning, good mother.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good morning please, and good morning Lisa. Look I just
had a hilarious laugh with Susie, your producer. Yeah, yep,
and she was saying in twenty fifteen I came to
their club less Murdy, who had been bottom of the
run for that many years, and they asked me what
was a bit of advice and I said, well before
before the finals and they just get on the squirt
(00:44):
on the pisces. Yeah. Yeah, and they've won eight of
the last nine premission man.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well that's the way we did it in the eighties.
But cricket wasn't sponsored by Pittston Hedges for nothing.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's what I got Kim at the answer.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It was a different time, something time.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, and I've been there. Actually tomorrow is going to
be one hundred and seventy nine weeks off the grog
I've ever done so yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yes, that's a wild one hundred and seventy nine. Good
on your mane.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've just got to work on the least thirty boys.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now I've stopped winning premistionships, the bar sales have gone
through the room. I've been unbelievable with one of the
worst bits of advice of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
A great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I listened to your interview with John Todds and yesterday
I was just ninety six point one. Yes every morning
because I wake up at three thirty, four o'clock four
thirty and then I can't wait for you guys to
get on at five thirty. So it's great to be
on your show.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
That's great to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Who did you have?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Who do you go for in the waffle?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh? Well, my father played for Subie back in the
under sort of in the water years, and I've always
been a lifelong supporter ambassador for SUBI and my hero
was Ostar Robertson Junior. And I've always been, you know,
a lifelong supporter of subiacoself.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Were you Kim you played a bit?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Ye? Yes, well I did I actually ross Glyn Dinning's
father angers was my coach in the under eighteens and
I won the best medal best player in the Clement
district and I got a foud dollar scholarship from Dennis
McInerney and I bought I bought a blue Hillman super
Minx with.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Pop out in the class to stop showing off.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The roles rights. But at least it was the four
wheels that I could get to gray Lands. That's gray
Lands teachers training. A lot of great memory.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Four was a great year for cars.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I had a dat's in one twenty wife was she
was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I know, I know nothing about cars. One day I
rang up the ra A C because I had a
flat tire and I couldn't find where the spear was.
So he came that unscrewed. Oh you idiot. You ever
kept in.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Australia and Captain Australia did, mate. But it wasn't always
it didn't always come up roses. But yes, you fought
you way through those twenty eight tests and you may.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yes, look you know I remember I got to know
Alan Jeans very well through a great business partner and
make him ken judge who is no longer unfortunate with us,
and Alan Jeans had a great saying and he said,
I don't expect you to like me, but I do
expect you to respect the position I hold, And that
(03:48):
were some of the part they didn't do that. You know,
it's being Australian quicker. Captain is not a position where
you lobby as against politicians. You just appointed the captain
and and off you go. So yeah, it wasn't as
enjoyable time as it could have been. But you know,
I've seen some people with chips on their shoulder growing
(04:10):
to carry trees and I wanted to sort of pull
a sort of a curtain across that. Otherwise it just
eats away at you. And I've often said to people
that if I had, you know, a party, and I
was going to invite six or seven mates, I'd invite
Dennis Lee and Rod Marsh's no longer with this unfortunate league,
because I really liked them. But they were some tough times.
(04:31):
We played the West Indies regularly. My last i know
nine or ten Test matches were against them, but still
had some great memories.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Great, yeah, absolutely, well, I mean it was a very
very interesting time in cricket. It was the late seventies
Carry Packers World Series. Cricket divided the Aussie team in
two camps, those who signed with Packer and those like
you who remained with the Australian Cricket Board. Were there
any regrets about Lisa.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I was only twenty three going on fifteen and on
my first name death match. Well I'm now seventy and
still going on for Queen Naive Naive, but I've made
a good looking one, you know, my own game that'd
be Oval And you know, I was sort of asked
by if one or two blokes was I interested? And
(05:23):
I've never played sport because of money, and I think
for those youngsters out there, if you do, you're not
going to cut the mustard. And I thought I could
never go home for my mum and dad and say, look,
I'm going to go there because the money is good.
They said, well, look we didn't bring you up like that.
And I also did think that with all the best
players gone, I was a fair chance to get a game,
you know. But it was traumatic times. But look I'm
(05:45):
glad they happened because Australian cricket has got paid absolutely.
Jack at the World Series cricket. The amount of money
now that's coming in, which is just millions and millions,
and some people would think it's obscene, but it was
a good thing that happened. But particularly Australia was affected
(06:06):
greatly because so many of our really very very great
players went to World Series. And you don't need a
team of youngsters and you don't need a team of geriatrics.
You need a mixture up because when it gets difficult,
that's when the more experienced people step up and they
say getting behind me and off you go, and that's
where you learn. It was some tough times.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was so important, isn't it In any sport.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, in any sport, in any business you need a
mixture of both because experiences are enthusiastic and optimistic and
then you need, you know, the older ones there just
giving them their wisdom. And I think that's part of learning,
listening and watching those that you'd like what you'd like
(06:55):
to do, who are doing it very very well. Well.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Can you imagine the experience my generally ten eighty four
was an interesting time because you had Rod Marsh and
Dennis Lily and Greek Chapel all retire at the same time,
you know, the end of a Test match and that
was a bizarre Yeah, that's a lot of experience on
telling well to.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Go one go. Yeah, the same thing's going to happen
in a year or two when you've got you know,
the average age of the Australian cricket side of the
moment is be thirty one or thirty two. So and
what you don't need is four or five of your
blokes retiring at the same time and then all of
a sudden you've got to bring in four or five youngsters.
(07:32):
You need a gradual if you're you know, not culling,
but the sort of one goes here and then someone
else comes in and the rest another one goes rather
than all at the one time. Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Now, you did famously lead the rebel team to South
Africa at the height of the Part eight boycotts. This
was this was very controversial at the time. What was
that experience? Was that did you get more than your
bargain for?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Were you?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Were you surprised at just how controversial that whole situation became.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I had resigned the captaincy. I just met my
great and late coach Frank Parry, the father of Jeff Parry,
who drives me crazy with about Jeff. It's not too
the same, you know. And I had said notice South
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Africa a couple of times because I was only thirty one,
and I remember going up into my study when I
lived in City Beach and thought to myself, well, I'm
going to spend the winter going to Pilate's or aerobics
or doing something, you know, because I still felt that
I was still young enough. But then anyway, what happened
(08:49):
was there was a tour, so I'm going to go
to England under Allan Border, and all of a sudden,
I think it was Kerry Packer said to Tony, well,
who do we need out of the South African tourists
to come back and play for Australia. And I think
it was Graham Wood and two or three or four
others who were coming back. And we weren't going to
(09:10):
lose any of the money that they were going to
get by going to South Africa, which was five, six, seven,
eight times more than what the players were going to
get to England. And I rang up Allan Border, and
also Jeff Lawson. I said, well, you can't add these
blokes back in your side. They were going to go
somewhere else, you know, and they voted unanimously not to
(09:34):
have them back in the team. And guess what Cricket
Australia did, or Cricket Board they said no, no, no, we
need them back. So I thought to myself, well, if
that's what you think of the Baggy Green's aralia, you
can stick it up your nostril. So I then signed on.
I was the second last player to go to South Africa.
(09:56):
I was captain and I'm so pleased I did because
you know, I'm a great believer and have said this
to so many people. There are two things that stuck
the world up. One is politics and the other's religion.
We're not only going to turn on the television these days,
but there are two things that do unite the world,
and one is music and the other is sport. Because
(10:17):
you can watch a Mardia Komenech on a six inth
scheme in the old days and you're thinking, wow, isn't
that just unbelievable, rather than thinking, oh, well she's of
this or that or whatever it happens to be. So
I'm a great believer. We kept cricket going in South
Africa and they've come back into the fold. And I
then captain Natal for two or three years as well,
(10:39):
and it's one of the great experiences in my life
and I'm so pleased that I did it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Unreal mate.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I remember watching you on the Talian Adelaide making a
double sentry. I think you ended up with two thirteen
there that's playing against India and it was a double celebration.
Did you get one hundred for each of your kiddies
that were the babies that were born back here at home?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well made? It's unbelievable how even let you down. You
know what, if my wife had had triplets, I'd still
be better now. Yes we did. We had two joys
in Simon and Sean. They're now forty three. Although the
other day I'm speaking to them and one of them said, Jerry,
(11:19):
what do you want? I said, how come you call
me Jerry? He said, you're geriatric, lovely and I've got
check book chain to them. I said, well, les, I
don't get scammed what you use. The books are smarter.
And then we had a little Bradley who I call Ginge.
He's got strawberry hair. I know you're not allowed to
(11:40):
say it that it's never changed, and the ginger calls
me fossil on that old the gins and the fossil.
I had three boys under three, and at times there
and you didn't appreciate how hard your wife partner worked
in those days because you couldn't afford a babysitter or
(12:04):
you know, someone to clean your house, or which I
can afford to buy a new house every year sort
of thing. And I thought, well, these three just they
were busy boys. I thought, geez, I've got to get
out of here. Even touring pakistanis looking for the excited.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
This point on the globe. Let me spin.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It hasn't been with your your lovely wife since you
were fourteen years old, the pair.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Of you, haven't you. Yes, that's a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well you know it was love at first. I can
so I could take it back to the City Beach
Senior High School and know exactly where she was. And
my father used to say, she looks she's not the
only fish in the sea. And then look, I've got
a long story short. My drinking got to a stage
where Jenny had said she'd had enough, so she left.
(12:58):
And that was five six years ago. I suppose and
you know, yeah, I was drinking and going down the
wrong path. And then I remember a great mate, Wayne Clark,
and a fellow called Richard mand Nass. They said, look,
can we need to have a chat to you. Let's
it beat at a coffee shop in Leada Ball and
(13:20):
the ginger came along. He's a trainee. Certainly doesn't get
it from his father because I couldn't body put a
door knob on. But anyway, so anyway, I see the
gym's coming through and he's training here, and I'm thinking
this is a couple of positions to ie for the ginger.
So I said, Ginger, who are you here to see you?
And he said I'm here to see you and I said,
oh okay, so sit down. Well he said, Dad, He said,
(13:45):
you go drive the mum in England club over the limit,
you drive home pissed, you get injure someone and kill someone.
In the other words, you're a dickhead. And that's exactly
what he said, do something about it. And old still
sometimes you need that sort of a talk. And I
went into Abbotsford Rehab for a couple of weeks and look,
(14:06):
there were a lot of youngsters there particularly young girls
who had drug challenges, and you had two or three
discussions every day, and it's a bit fluffy, you know,
skirts around the issues. But the great thing that Richmond
Foundation of MH connect mental health. They got a guy
called Gary Anderson, a nurse who came out and just
(14:30):
sat down with me in my apartment in Seaview for
about a six month prud over every two or three
weeks for an hour or two and really got into
the nitty gritty. And at the end of that we
both said, look, I'm right, I don't need it, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And you know, none at the expense of what you had.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
No, that's right. And you know, and for the people
listening out there, they want to lose weight or change whatever.
It's a bit like, you know, trying to score one
hundred that's four hours away, but someone might want to
lose ten kilos or whatever that could be six months away.
And I can remember, guys, I wanted to give up
the drink when I was early thirties and I said
(15:14):
to the cricket mates, I'm going to give the drink
of oh Hughsy, you know, come on now, mate, who
you're kidding? Anyway, I did for a period of time
and then all of a sudden something happened. And you know,
whether it's financial issues or relationship issues, anyway, something happened.
I got back on it. I guess what my mate said,
We gotcha. Yeah, you know Australians love you get ahead. Yeah,
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And that's what I've done is just to go week
by week. And I am very old fashioned. And I've
got an a four diary everything down and this Friday
write down that's one hundred and seventy nine weeks. And
there's a great saying that goes, you cannot consistently perform
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in a manner that is inconsistent with how you perceive yourself.
And when I look at that school board, I'm a winner.
And guess what behavior you bring? So every week, you know,
it's just out of breach, not out of sight. And
I've been in a fantastic relationship with a lovely lady
called Beryl, you know, for the last three and a
half four years, nearly she's only twenty one, no sorry,
(16:30):
she's younger than me. But we laugh a lot and
get along very very well. But I do you know,
you look back and yeah, there's things you think, but
at least I did something about otherwise I would have
ended up in the bloody gutter and some people would
have walked past and foot off. Have a look at that, loser.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
To talk to you today as we continue our celebration
of eighty four, which turns forty this year.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And made years.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You can't get it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm a cricket tragic all my life and I'm fifty
fifty eight, and have you say that you listen to
us in the morning, I feel very I feel very honest.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And the other thing is that I was born in
nineteen fifty four on Australia Day. Yeah, that's right years
why that is why I say we have Australia Day.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Very.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
If you don't like it, live somewhere, don't bother, don't
change my date.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Good John, Good to catch up with your guys.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Good
We thought we'd keep the sport trend going today lies
and he is a name for it. Seventy Test matches,
nine centuries, twenty two fifties. This man made in his
cricket career twelve seven hundred and eleven first class runs
and he was a proud west Dozy and of course
captain of the Australian cricket team.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Kim Hughes, good morning, good mother.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Good morning please, and good morning Lisa. Look I just
had a hilarious laugh with Susie, your producer. Yeah, yep,
and she was saying in twenty fifteen I came to
their club less Murdy, who had been bottom of the
run for that many years, and they asked me what
was a bit of advice and I said, well before
before the finals and they just get on the squirt
(00:44):
on the pisces. Yeah. Yeah, and they've won eight of
the last nine premission man.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Well that's the way we did it in the eighties.
But cricket wasn't sponsored by Pittston Hedges for nothing.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
That's what I got Kim at the answer.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
It was a different time, something time.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, and I've been there. Actually tomorrow is going to
be one hundred and seventy nine weeks off the grog
I've ever done so yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yes, that's a wild one hundred and seventy nine. Good
on your mane.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I've just got to work on the least thirty boys.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now I've stopped winning premistionships, the bar sales have gone
through the room. I've been unbelievable with one of the
worst bits of advice of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
A great to be with you.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I listened to your interview with John Todds and yesterday
I was just ninety six point one. Yes every morning
because I wake up at three thirty, four o'clock four
thirty and then I can't wait for you guys to
get on at five thirty. So it's great to be
on your show.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
That's great to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Who did you have?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Who do you go for in the waffle?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh? Well, my father played for Subie back in the
under sort of in the water years, and I've always
been a lifelong supporter ambassador for SUBI and my hero
was Ostar Robertson Junior. And I've always been, you know,
a lifelong supporter of subiacoself.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Were you Kim you played a bit?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Ye? Yes, well I did I actually ross Glyn Dinning's
father angers was my coach in the under eighteens and
I won the best medal best player in the Clement
district and I got a foud dollar scholarship from Dennis
McInerney and I bought I bought a blue Hillman super
Minx with.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Pop out in the class to stop showing off.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The roles rights. But at least it was the four
wheels that I could get to gray Lands. That's gray
Lands teachers training. A lot of great memory.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Four was a great year for cars.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I had a dat's in one twenty wife was she
was fantastic.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I know, I know nothing about cars. One day I
rang up the ra A C because I had a
flat tire and I couldn't find where the spear was.
So he came that unscrewed. Oh you idiot. You ever
kept in.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Australia and Captain Australia did, mate. But it wasn't always
it didn't always come up roses. But yes, you fought
you way through those twenty eight tests and you may.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yes, look you know I remember I got to know
Alan Jeans very well through a great business partner and
make him ken judge who is no longer unfortunate with us,
and Alan Jeans had a great saying and he said,
I don't expect you to like me, but I do
expect you to respect the position I hold, And that
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were some of the part they didn't do that. You know,
it's being Australian quicker. Captain is not a position where
you lobby as against politicians. You just appointed the captain
and and off you go. So yeah, it wasn't as
enjoyable time as it could have been. But you know,
I've seen some people with chips on their shoulder growing
(04:10):
to carry trees and I wanted to sort of pull
a sort of a curtain across that. Otherwise it just
eats away at you. And I've often said to people
that if I had, you know, a party, and I
was going to invite six or seven mates, I'd invite
Dennis Lee and Rod Marsh's no longer with this unfortunate league,
because I really liked them. But they were some tough times.
(04:31):
We played the West Indies regularly. My last i know
nine or ten Test matches were against them, but still
had some great memories.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Great, yeah, absolutely, well, I mean it was a very
very interesting time in cricket. It was the late seventies
Carry Packers World Series. Cricket divided the Aussie team in
two camps, those who signed with Packer and those like
you who remained with the Australian Cricket Board. Were there
any regrets about Lisa.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I was only twenty three going on fifteen and on
my first name death match. Well I'm now seventy and
still going on for Queen Naive Naive, but I've made
a good looking one, you know, my own game that'd
be Oval And you know, I was sort of asked
by if one or two blokes was I interested? And
(05:23):
I've never played sport because of money, and I think
for those youngsters out there, if you do, you're not
going to cut the mustard. And I thought I could
never go home for my mum and dad and say, look,
I'm going to go there because the money is good.
They said, well, look we didn't bring you up like that.
And I also did think that with all the best
players gone, I was a fair chance to get a game,
you know. But it was traumatic times. But look I'm
(05:45):
glad they happened because Australian cricket has got paid absolutely.
Jack at the World Series cricket. The amount of money
now that's coming in, which is just millions and millions,
and some people would think it's obscene, but it was
a good thing that happened. But particularly Australia was affected
(06:06):
greatly because so many of our really very very great
players went to World Series. And you don't need a
team of youngsters and you don't need a team of geriatrics.
You need a mixture up because when it gets difficult,
that's when the more experienced people step up and they
say getting behind me and off you go, and that's
where you learn. It was some tough times.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It was so important, isn't it In any sport.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Well, in any sport, in any business you need a
mixture of both because experiences are enthusiastic and optimistic and
then you need, you know, the older ones there just
giving them their wisdom. And I think that's part of learning,
listening and watching those that you'd like what you'd like
(06:55):
to do, who are doing it very very well. Well.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Can you imagine the experience my generally ten eighty four
was an interesting time because you had Rod Marsh and
Dennis Lily and Greek Chapel all retire at the same time,
you know, the end of a Test match and that
was a bizarre Yeah, that's a lot of experience on
telling well to.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Go one go. Yeah, the same thing's going to happen
in a year or two when you've got you know,
the average age of the Australian cricket side of the
moment is be thirty one or thirty two. So and
what you don't need is four or five of your
blokes retiring at the same time and then all of
a sudden you've got to bring in four or five youngsters.
(07:32):
You need a gradual if you're you know, not culling,
but the sort of one goes here and then someone
else comes in and the rest another one goes rather
than all at the one time. Guys.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Now, you did famously lead the rebel team to South
Africa at the height of the Part eight boycotts. This
was this was very controversial at the time. What was
that experience? Was that did you get more than your
bargain for?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Were you?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Were you surprised at just how controversial that whole situation became.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I had resigned the captaincy. I just met my
great and late coach Frank Parry, the father of Jeff Parry,
who drives me crazy with about Jeff. It's not too
the same, you know. And I had said notice South
(08:27):
Africa a couple of times because I was only thirty one,
and I remember going up into my study when I
lived in City Beach and thought to myself, well, I'm
going to spend the winter going to Pilate's or aerobics
or doing something, you know, because I still felt that
I was still young enough. But then anyway, what happened
(08:49):
was there was a tour, so I'm going to go
to England under Allan Border, and all of a sudden,
I think it was Kerry Packer said to Tony, well,
who do we need out of the South African tourists
to come back and play for Australia. And I think
it was Graham Wood and two or three or four
others who were coming back. And we weren't going to
(09:10):
lose any of the money that they were going to
get by going to South Africa, which was five, six, seven,
eight times more than what the players were going to
get to England. And I rang up Allan Border, and
also Jeff Lawson. I said, well, you can't add these
blokes back in your side. They were going to go
somewhere else, you know, and they voted unanimously not to
(09:34):
have them back in the team. And guess what Cricket
Australia did, or Cricket Board they said no, no, no, we
need them back. So I thought to myself, well, if
that's what you think of the Baggy Green's aralia, you
can stick it up your nostril. So I then signed on.
I was the second last player to go to South Africa.
(09:56):
I was captain and I'm so pleased I did because
you know, I'm a great believer and have said this
to so many people. There are two things that stuck
the world up. One is politics and the other's religion.
We're not only going to turn on the television these days,
but there are two things that do unite the world,
and one is music and the other is sport. Because
(10:17):
you can watch a Mardia Komenech on a six inth
scheme in the old days and you're thinking, wow, isn't
that just unbelievable, rather than thinking, oh, well she's of
this or that or whatever it happens to be. So
I'm a great believer. We kept cricket going in South
Africa and they've come back into the fold. And I
then captain Natal for two or three years as well,
(10:39):
and it's one of the great experiences in my life
and I'm so pleased that I did it.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Unreal mate.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
I remember watching you on the Talian Adelaide making a
double sentry. I think you ended up with two thirteen
there that's playing against India and it was a double celebration.
Did you get one hundred for each of your kiddies
that were the babies that were born back here at home?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Well made? It's unbelievable how even let you down. You
know what, if my wife had had triplets, I'd still
be better now. Yes we did. We had two joys
in Simon and Sean. They're now forty three. Although the
other day I'm speaking to them and one of them said, Jerry,
(11:19):
what do you want? I said, how come you call
me Jerry? He said, you're geriatric, lovely and I've got
check book chain to them. I said, well, les, I
don't get scammed what you use. The books are smarter.
And then we had a little Bradley who I call Ginge.
He's got strawberry hair. I know you're not allowed to
(11:40):
say it that it's never changed, and the ginger calls
me fossil on that old the gins and the fossil.
I had three boys under three, and at times there
and you didn't appreciate how hard your wife partner worked
in those days because you couldn't afford a babysitter or
(12:04):
you know, someone to clean your house, or which I
can afford to buy a new house every year sort
of thing. And I thought, well, these three just they
were busy boys. I thought, geez, I've got to get
out of here. Even touring pakistanis looking for the excited.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
This point on the globe. Let me spin.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
It hasn't been with your your lovely wife since you
were fourteen years old, the pair.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Of you, haven't you. Yes, that's a beautiful story.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Well you know it was love at first. I can
so I could take it back to the City Beach
Senior High School and know exactly where she was. And
my father used to say, she looks she's not the
only fish in the sea. And then look, I've got
a long story short. My drinking got to a stage
where Jenny had said she'd had enough, so she left.
(12:58):
And that was five six years ago. I suppose and
you know, yeah, I was drinking and going down the
wrong path. And then I remember a great mate, Wayne Clark,
and a fellow called Richard mand Nass. They said, look,
can we need to have a chat to you. Let's
it beat at a coffee shop in Leada Ball and
(13:20):
the ginger came along. He's a trainee. Certainly doesn't get
it from his father because I couldn't body put a
door knob on. But anyway, so anyway, I see the
gym's coming through and he's training here, and I'm thinking
this is a couple of positions to ie for the ginger.
So I said, Ginger, who are you here to see you?
And he said I'm here to see you and I said,
oh okay, so sit down. Well he said, Dad, He said,
(13:45):
you go drive the mum in England club over the limit,
you drive home pissed, you get injure someone and kill someone.
In the other words, you're a dickhead. And that's exactly
what he said, do something about it. And old still
sometimes you need that sort of a talk. And I
went into Abbotsford Rehab for a couple of weeks and look,
(14:06):
there were a lot of youngsters there particularly young girls
who had drug challenges, and you had two or three
discussions every day, and it's a bit fluffy, you know,
skirts around the issues. But the great thing that Richmond
Foundation of MH connect mental health. They got a guy
called Gary Anderson, a nurse who came out and just
(14:30):
sat down with me in my apartment in Seaview for
about a six month prud over every two or three
weeks for an hour or two and really got into
the nitty gritty. And at the end of that we
both said, look, I'm right, I don't need it, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
And you know, none at the expense of what you had.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
No, that's right. And you know, and for the people
listening out there, they want to lose weight or change whatever.
It's a bit like, you know, trying to score one
hundred that's four hours away, but someone might want to
lose ten kilos or whatever that could be six months away.
And I can remember, guys, I wanted to give up
the drink when I was early thirties and I said
(15:14):
to the cricket mates, I'm going to give the drink
of oh Hughsy, you know, come on now, mate, who
you're kidding? Anyway, I did for a period of time
and then all of a sudden something happened. And you know,
whether it's financial issues or relationship issues, anyway, something happened.
I got back on it. I guess what my mate said,
We gotcha. Yeah, you know Australians love you get ahead. Yeah,
(15:40):
And that's what I've done is just to go week
by week. And I am very old fashioned. And I've
got an a four diary everything down and this Friday
write down that's one hundred and seventy nine weeks. And
there's a great saying that goes, you cannot consistently perform
(16:01):
in a manner that is inconsistent with how you perceive yourself.
And when I look at that school board, I'm a winner.
And guess what behavior you bring? So every week, you know,
it's just out of breach, not out of sight. And
I've been in a fantastic relationship with a lovely lady
called Beryl, you know, for the last three and a
half four years, nearly she's only twenty one, no sorry,
(16:30):
she's younger than me. But we laugh a lot and
get along very very well. But I do you know,
you look back and yeah, there's things you think, but
at least I did something about otherwise I would have
ended up in the bloody gutter and some people would
have walked past and foot off. Have a look at that, loser.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
To talk to you today as we continue our celebration
of eighty four, which turns forty this year.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And made years.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
You can't get it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I'm a cricket tragic all my life and I'm fifty
fifty eight, and have you say that you listen to
us in the morning, I feel very I feel very honest.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And the other thing is that I was born in
nineteen fifty four on Australia Day. Yeah, that's right years
why that is why I say we have Australia Day.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Very.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
If you don't like it, live somewhere, don't bother, don't
change my date.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Good John, Good to catch up with your guys.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Good
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