April 30, 2025 • 6 mins
Our movie guy Ben O'Shea joined Clairsy & lisa to review the brand new Marvel flick Thunderbolts and gave it a score out of 5.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great per flick with Benosh your mining them. Good morning, guys,
We've got a new Marvel movie to talk about today.
And the studio, which is owned by Disney these days,
has struggled in recent years, if we're being honest, really
ever since Avengers Endgame a few years ago, when you know,
(00:22):
they knocked off Robert Downey Junior.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Big mistake, but Julia.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
A huge, huge, absolutely huge Iron Man was rubbed out.
Captain America. Chris Evans also gone, So you lost two
of the biggest stars in the Marvel Cinematic universe.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And they were alway in terms of Marvel v DC.
Marvel was the big one, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Marvel Marvel was the big one thing because they always
had a sense of fun about them, and a lot
of that was down to Robert Downey Jr. As Ironman,
Like he was such an incredible character that everybody loved.
And of course you have Chris Hemsworth as Thor scars
Ala Johanssen as the Black Widow. They also killed her off,
and so you really lost a lot of the favorite characters.
(01:06):
And ever since then they've been trying to muddle through
with this kind of B grade cast of characters that
don't really have that real brand name value. As they
kind of build towards this next phase putting together a
new team of Avengers, and it all really really went
off the rails when their their villain, you know, was
(01:30):
had some off screen issues with domestic abuse and stuff
like that. So they kind of had to rejig their
whole plot for five films. And it probably started to
turn around with Deadpool and Wolverine. So when they brought
the X Men and Deadpool over into the Marvel Cinematic universe,
and Deadpool obviously is such a big hit, you know,
(01:51):
they thought, Okay, maybe maybe we can get this back
on track. But ever since then, there's been a couple
of movies that just haven't been very successful. Most recently
it was the New Captain of America film, which is
just not good at all, that had Harrison.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Ford as a sort of a Red Hulk.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But along comes Thunderbolts, this movie that a lot of
people maybe don't know much about.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's kind of like a ragtag.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Bunch of anti heroes that all come together to save
the world, I guess, and it stars the great Florence Pugh,
who is Scarlett Johansson's character's sister, Elna, who we saw
her in the Black Widow movie as this sort of
child assassin who's grown up kind of escaped the evil
(02:32):
people that she worked for and now she's kind of
a good guy and she is this secret operative of
Julia Louis Dravis's character.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The director cast is huge, it's a huge cast.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's a huge cast, and so Julia Luis Dreyfuss plays
Director Fontaine of the CIA, and so she runs this
kind of black ops situation where they like basically going
around erasing some of the stuff that the CIA did
that they're not too proud of that might come back
and bite Julia Luid on the butt in this kind
of senate hearing. So she's got Florence Pugh off kind
(03:04):
of like blowing up secret laboratories where they're doing stuff.
White Teller, he's off a White Russell. Sorry, so the
son of Kurt Russell and Goldiehorn. Unfortunately for him, he
got the you know, the worst characteristics of both of them,
two of the most beautiful people in the world. But
still he's a great actor, and so White Russell he's
also he plays kind of like a poor Man's Captain America,
(03:27):
who is again on the mission to clean up some
of these messes. And then when a few of these
kind of black operatives all get tasked with cleaning up
the same lab, they realize that they've been sent to
kill each other by Julia Louis Dreyfus. She's double cross them,
and so then they go, Okay, what are the options here.
Do we actually fight each other to the death, or
maybe this unlikely bunch of misfits could join up and
(03:50):
form a team. And if you watch Black Widow, you
would remember that Florence's Pew's dad was David Harbor from
Stranger Things, who plays this Russian super soldier called the
Red Guardian basically like Santa with superpowers. Also is hilarious,
he's actually amazing, And so they agreed to kind of
team up to fight against the CIA and this new
(04:13):
villain that emerges along the way, and they call themselves
the Thunderbolts because that's the name of Florence Pugh's pee
weee soccer team. They never won a game, but they
were really plucky and so and they have a big
argument over who sponsored the team. They trying to remember
back to the day, Was it Shane's Tires or was
it Dimitri's Discount Electronics? And so it's the sort of
(04:33):
film that has, I guess, plenty of action. It's got
a decent amount of humor to it as well, some
genuinely funny scenes because Florence and David Harbot they're great
actors and they're really good at that's and of course we.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Know Julie Louis Drefus is so good yea.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But also the thing that surprised me quite a bit
of heart to it as well, because some of these
movies get too carried away with their you know, saving
the universe, multiverse kind of rubbish that's hard to keep
track of. This really focuses on the world's inside people,
and there's a big kind of mental health thing, which
you might think, is there a place for mental health
in a Marvel blockbuster? This film kind of does it
(05:11):
pretty well. Okay, surprisingly worldas standing at Sebastian and I
love him.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
She had a big gear last year, huge year.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, they're playing Donald Trump. Doesn't get much bigger than that.
And there's one particular sequence in this film with Sebastian
Stan you know those hero moments, whether the music is swelling,
and someone comes along to to save the day. In
this one scene, who is it? Sebastian stand on a
motorbike with his wrap around sunglasses, man's it is? That
scene is very good. So there's a few scenes like
that where you just go, do you know what that
just kicked?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
By Harrison Ford A little.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Cameo and the post and the great and the post
post credit sequence as well, that fit hints at some
pretty exciting stuff coming forward.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So so I.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Probably after seeing this film feel more positive about the
Marvel Cinematic universe than I have in a long time.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Don't be happy with that beautiful deep voice.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, the big question is how many thunderbottomed lightnings, very
very frightenings are you giving it?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
How we give this one three and a half? Oh okay,
it's aggressive, not just solid, not just the cast alone,
got some heart.
Great per flick with Benosh your mining them. Good morning, guys,
We've got a new Marvel movie to talk about today.
And the studio, which is owned by Disney these days,
has struggled in recent years, if we're being honest, really
ever since Avengers Endgame a few years ago, when you know,
(00:22):
they knocked off Robert Downey Junior.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Big mistake, but Julia.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
A huge, huge, absolutely huge Iron Man was rubbed out.
Captain America. Chris Evans also gone, So you lost two
of the biggest stars in the Marvel Cinematic universe.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
And they were alway in terms of Marvel v DC.
Marvel was the big one, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Marvel Marvel was the big one thing because they always
had a sense of fun about them, and a lot
of that was down to Robert Downey Jr. As Ironman,
Like he was such an incredible character that everybody loved.
And of course you have Chris Hemsworth as Thor scars
Ala Johanssen as the Black Widow. They also killed her off,
and so you really lost a lot of the favorite characters.
(01:06):
And ever since then they've been trying to muddle through
with this kind of B grade cast of characters that
don't really have that real brand name value. As they
kind of build towards this next phase putting together a
new team of Avengers, and it all really really went
off the rails when their their villain, you know, was
(01:30):
had some off screen issues with domestic abuse and stuff
like that. So they kind of had to rejig their
whole plot for five films. And it probably started to
turn around with Deadpool and Wolverine. So when they brought
the X Men and Deadpool over into the Marvel Cinematic universe,
and Deadpool obviously is such a big hit, you know,
(01:51):
they thought, Okay, maybe maybe we can get this back
on track. But ever since then, there's been a couple
of movies that just haven't been very successful. Most recently
it was the New Captain of America film, which is
just not good at all, that had Harrison.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Ford as a sort of a Red Hulk.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
But along comes Thunderbolts, this movie that a lot of
people maybe don't know much about.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It's kind of like a ragtag.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Bunch of anti heroes that all come together to save
the world, I guess, and it stars the great Florence Pugh,
who is Scarlett Johansson's character's sister, Elna, who we saw
her in the Black Widow movie as this sort of
child assassin who's grown up kind of escaped the evil
(02:32):
people that she worked for and now she's kind of
a good guy and she is this secret operative of
Julia Louis Dravis's character.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
The director cast is huge, it's a huge cast.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It's a huge cast, and so Julia Luis Dreyfuss plays
Director Fontaine of the CIA, and so she runs this
kind of black ops situation where they like basically going
around erasing some of the stuff that the CIA did
that they're not too proud of that might come back
and bite Julia Luid on the butt in this kind
of senate hearing. So she's got Florence Pugh off kind
(03:04):
of like blowing up secret laboratories where they're doing stuff.
White Teller, he's off a White Russell. Sorry, so the
son of Kurt Russell and Goldiehorn. Unfortunately for him, he
got the you know, the worst characteristics of both of them,
two of the most beautiful people in the world. But
still he's a great actor, and so White Russell he's
also he plays kind of like a poor Man's Captain America,
(03:27):
who is again on the mission to clean up some
of these messes. And then when a few of these
kind of black operatives all get tasked with cleaning up
the same lab, they realize that they've been sent to
kill each other by Julia Louis Dreyfus. She's double cross them,
and so then they go, Okay, what are the options here.
Do we actually fight each other to the death, or
maybe this unlikely bunch of misfits could join up and
(03:50):
form a team. And if you watch Black Widow, you
would remember that Florence's Pew's dad was David Harbor from
Stranger Things, who plays this Russian super soldier called the
Red Guardian basically like Santa with superpowers. Also is hilarious,
he's actually amazing, And so they agreed to kind of
team up to fight against the CIA and this new
(04:13):
villain that emerges along the way, and they call themselves
the Thunderbolts because that's the name of Florence Pugh's pee
weee soccer team. They never won a game, but they
were really plucky and so and they have a big
argument over who sponsored the team. They trying to remember
back to the day, Was it Shane's Tires or was
it Dimitri's Discount Electronics? And so it's the sort of
(04:33):
film that has, I guess, plenty of action. It's got
a decent amount of humor to it as well, some
genuinely funny scenes because Florence and David Harbot they're great
actors and they're really good at that's and of course we.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Know Julie Louis Drefus is so good yea.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
But also the thing that surprised me quite a bit
of heart to it as well, because some of these
movies get too carried away with their you know, saving
the universe, multiverse kind of rubbish that's hard to keep
track of. This really focuses on the world's inside people,
and there's a big kind of mental health thing, which
you might think, is there a place for mental health
in a Marvel blockbuster? This film kind of does it
(05:11):
pretty well. Okay, surprisingly worldas standing at Sebastian and I
love him.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
She had a big gear last year, huge year.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Yeah, they're playing Donald Trump. Doesn't get much bigger than that.
And there's one particular sequence in this film with Sebastian
Stan you know those hero moments, whether the music is swelling,
and someone comes along to to save the day. In
this one scene, who is it? Sebastian stand on a
motorbike with his wrap around sunglasses, man's it is? That
scene is very good. So there's a few scenes like
that where you just go, do you know what that
just kicked?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
By Harrison Ford A little.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Cameo and the post and the great and the post
post credit sequence as well, that fit hints at some
pretty exciting stuff coming forward.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So so I.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Probably after seeing this film feel more positive about the
Marvel Cinematic universe than I have in a long time.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Don't be happy with that beautiful deep voice.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well, the big question is how many thunderbottomed lightnings, very
very frightenings are you giving it?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
How we give this one three and a half? Oh okay,
it's aggressive, not just solid, not just the cast alone,
got some heart.
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