With the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, Clairsy & Lisa spoke to Channel 7 U.S Correspondent David Woiwod to get the latest update.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Trump news was just a huge news across the weekend.
Lest since drag myself away from the telly for of course, it's.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Been a pretty amazing twenty four hours. I still cannot
believe that he cheated death by centimeters.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Absolutely, sentiments gone in his temple, no matter how many
secret security agents are jumping on top of you. Vigonski.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, we're going to cross the Channel seven's US correspondent
to get the latest on the Trump assassination attempt. David Woward,
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
David, Good morning, guys. How are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
A huge story? You know, these things don't happen that often,
and of course happening to one of the most controversial figures.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Of our lifetime. What is the latest, Well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We are starting to learn more about this gunman and
this twenty year old man who had launched this spectacular
and stunning attack really on the former US president yesterday.
We've all seen the pictures by now. He was a
twenty year old man by the name of Thomas Crooks.
He was from Pennsylvania. We have learned that police found
explosives in his car and back at his home. We're
(01:07):
also learning that he was a little bit of a
loaner at school too, that his classmates said that he
didn't have to any mates, so he didn't have much
of a network or community around him, which is pretty
common for these loan actors. It is a story that
we often hear in these situations. We're also learning those
that he had attracted the attention of law enforcement in
the hours leading up to this attack, that he'd sort
(01:29):
of been walking around the perimeter of that rally venue
and for whatever reason, he had sort of drawn a
little bit of a spotlight on him. Now, the big
question is why didn't law enforcement then act on that.
So that's going to form a major line of questioning
now in this investigation, and also major questions of course
for the Secret Service to answer as well. It's their
(01:50):
job to secure a perimeter like this, to secure the
former US President Donald Trump. He has all of those
resources at his disposal. We know that they responded within
seconds obviously of the gun shots actually ringing out, and
we saw that we sort of jump on him, and
we saw those other officers firing back towards the gun fire.
(02:10):
But how did it get to that point? This man
was only one hundred meters away from Donald Trump when
he has unleashed this.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And I know hindsight it's twenty twenty, but the guy
looked like he was just lying so openly on a
rooftop there that hadn't moon checked.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, he'd had enough time to actually walk up there.
He'd walked past other members of the crowd there, and
they had seen him and they thought something, he looks
a bit suss So they had raised the alarm. Another
of a number of others had raised the alarm. But
he still had enough time to scale that building, set
up shop there, and then opened fire. And look. Police
have said that the actual gun fire itself was quite
(02:46):
scattered had it not been had he had a little
bit more training. Perhaps we don't know his background exactly.
We do know that he was a bit of a
gun nut that he subscribes to a number of online
accounts and things like that. It's kind of glorified gun
new but it was quite a scattered approach. He's sort
of unleashed with that high powered AAR style weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hey, David, the person who's lost their lives in the
crowd sadly, do you believe it was someone who was
in the sort of the grand stand set up behind
Donald Trump, because I would imagine that will be obligated.
Now they won't. They won't have he followers behind him.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Now. Yeah, well, it'd be very interesting to see how
now impacts on campaigning, because obviously that is a pretty
traditional setup set up for the modern campaigning sort of
you have those your front joe, your front row Joe's
and then you have the crew behind you as well,
and it sort of gives the old pics of a
massive crowd at your event, whether or not that is true.
(03:38):
That man though he was a fifty year old firefighter,
a father, he is a Trump supporter, a local man
from Philadelphia, and a man by the name of Corey comploratory.
So very sad for your family. Have had those condolences
from the Republicans today.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And a couple of other people are in a critical condition,
aren't they.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, well some actually some good news on that front.
It's just come through in the past few hours. Their
status has been upgraded to stable. They are still in hospital,
but yes, they were taken away in a critical condition
and treated for those injuries.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Now it's this week that Trump is actually been presented
as the candidate officially, isn't it that that's happening in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I think is it Friday, No Milwaukee having in Milwaukee here,
and this is where we are right now. We are
at the Republican National Convention right now, So it'll begin
tomorrow Monday here local times will start and that is
that formal process by which, yeah, yeah, the party actually
gives that official nomination and Donald Trump will accept that.
He's put out a statement today, in fact, saying that
(04:39):
he is going to come to Milwaukee. Nothing's going to
stop him, and he's really given those assurances to his
supporter base that this isn't going to derail his campaign. Now,
we are also expecting a major announcement from Donald Trump
this week, and whether or not that has now been
put on hold, well once you check the brawls. But
I think he actually has to announce it before Thursday
when he officially accepts that nomination. Of course, his vice
(05:00):
presidential pick who is going to be his running So
it's always going to be a massive week for Republicans
and Donald Trump, you got it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Do you think that this is going to change the
way the rest of the election campaign plays out?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I think so. I think it has to. This has
been a tectonic shift. And we're expecting to hear from
the US President in just a few hours time, maybe
an hour and a half or so. He's going to
give that live address to the nation from the Oval Office.
So this is going to be a moment for Joe
Biden to try and lower the temperature here in the
United States. And you just have to jump online at
the moment and the level of vitriol, anger, flat out
(05:39):
fury at the moment between the left and the right
in politics, it's just at another level right now, as
you could well imagine. Look, Donald Trump bears a lot
of responsibility for that as well. He has been the
man whipping that up. He has long used that very
powerful language. She's been the master of insults and takedowns
and really weaponizing language in a lot of ways. But yeah, really,
(06:03):
something needs to change you because after what happened yesterday,
I mean, it could have ended very differently.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What about Trump insisting as he's been lifted to the
able to put his shoes back on, but insisting on
standing up and punching the air and saying fight fight.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Let's just say Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, it's very Trump. He's taken the opportunity to in
that moment to have the Wherewithal? I have the you know,
he's very lucid at that point in time. And what's
the talk about that? Because we'll be seen as a
strength for Republicans.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I mean, this is a man who is a master
of the image, right, So he's an old school TV executive,
knows the power of images. He's used it for a
very long time in his political campaign. He gets how
TV works, he gets how pictures work, and he has
had that as you say, Wherewithal in that instance, that
moment he has heard that bullet wing past his head,
(06:51):
one has clipped him on the ear, he's seen the blood.
He's gone to ground very deliberately, but within seconds he
was back up on his feet. He had blood smear
across his face, and he knew he would have to
have known that in that moment all eyes were on him,
if they weren't already, he had the stage and he
has used that to his advantage in the most spectacular
(07:13):
of fashions.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know something that Clercy and I noticed yesterday, David,
with all that's been going on with Joe Biden and
his image, we'd never seen him so lucid and clear
in the way he responded to this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah he was good, wasn't he quite forceful in his
response to this? And I suppose there has been Look,
Joe Biden has really lifted his game and he had to.
I mean it was quite die there. It still is
quite dial lets. We can't know the fact that there's
still a lot of pressure under Joe Biden right now
because he just hasn't been performing in the way that
his supporters in his base want him to perform right now.
(07:49):
But it has to be said, the last couple of
public performances and rallies that he's held, look they've been
markedly better, but yeah, still not up to scratch. But
then there was that address yesterday, those remarks and now
quite conciliatorate to Donald Trump. They had a chat between
each other as well, and we've got some more details
about that. It was described as brief but respectful. And
then today Joe Biden has been back out again and
(08:12):
he has offered Donald Trump and the Republican Party all
the support that they need now ahead of this convention.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It was Bizari the current presidents to call him Donald
twice in one statement, which was quite bizarre but very presidential.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out
over the next few days, and let's just hope that
perhaps we can reign back with some of the mad
conspiracy madness sprung out of this. But David, thanks so
much for your time.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thank you guys,
Trump news was just a huge news across the weekend.
Lest since drag myself away from the telly for of course, it's.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Been a pretty amazing twenty four hours. I still cannot
believe that he cheated death by centimeters.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Absolutely, sentiments gone in his temple, no matter how many
secret security agents are jumping on top of you. Vigonski.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Well, we're going to cross the Channel seven's US correspondent
to get the latest on the Trump assassination attempt. David Woward,
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
David, Good morning, guys. How are you good?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
A huge story? You know, these things don't happen that often,
and of course happening to one of the most controversial figures.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Of our lifetime. What is the latest, Well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We are starting to learn more about this gunman and
this twenty year old man who had launched this spectacular
and stunning attack really on the former US president yesterday.
We've all seen the pictures by now. He was a
twenty year old man by the name of Thomas Crooks.
He was from Pennsylvania. We have learned that police found
explosives in his car and back at his home. We're
(01:07):
also learning that he was a little bit of a
loaner at school too, that his classmates said that he
didn't have to any mates, so he didn't have much
of a network or community around him, which is pretty
common for these loan actors. It is a story that
we often hear in these situations. We're also learning those
that he had attracted the attention of law enforcement in
the hours leading up to this attack, that he'd sort
(01:29):
of been walking around the perimeter of that rally venue
and for whatever reason, he had sort of drawn a
little bit of a spotlight on him. Now, the big
question is why didn't law enforcement then act on that.
So that's going to form a major line of questioning
now in this investigation, and also major questions of course
for the Secret Service to answer as well. It's their
(01:50):
job to secure a perimeter like this, to secure the
former US President Donald Trump. He has all of those
resources at his disposal. We know that they responded within
seconds obviously of the gun shots actually ringing out, and
we saw that we sort of jump on him, and
we saw those other officers firing back towards the gun fire.
(02:10):
But how did it get to that point? This man
was only one hundred meters away from Donald Trump when
he has unleashed this.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And I know hindsight it's twenty twenty, but the guy
looked like he was just lying so openly on a
rooftop there that hadn't moon checked.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yeah, he'd had enough time to actually walk up there.
He'd walked past other members of the crowd there, and
they had seen him and they thought something, he looks
a bit suss So they had raised the alarm. Another
of a number of others had raised the alarm. But
he still had enough time to scale that building, set
up shop there, and then opened fire. And look. Police
have said that the actual gun fire itself was quite
(02:46):
scattered had it not been had he had a little
bit more training. Perhaps we don't know his background exactly.
We do know that he was a bit of a
gun nut that he subscribes to a number of online
accounts and things like that. It's kind of glorified gun
new but it was quite a scattered approach. He's sort
of unleashed with that high powered AAR style weapon.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Hey, David, the person who's lost their lives in the
crowd sadly, do you believe it was someone who was
in the sort of the grand stand set up behind
Donald Trump, because I would imagine that will be obligated.
Now they won't. They won't have he followers behind him.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Now. Yeah, well, it'd be very interesting to see how
now impacts on campaigning, because obviously that is a pretty
traditional setup set up for the modern campaigning sort of
you have those your front joe, your front row Joe's
and then you have the crew behind you as well,
and it sort of gives the old pics of a
massive crowd at your event, whether or not that is true.
(03:38):
That man though he was a fifty year old firefighter,
a father, he is a Trump supporter, a local man
from Philadelphia, and a man by the name of Corey comploratory.
So very sad for your family. Have had those condolences
from the Republicans today.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
And a couple of other people are in a critical condition,
aren't they.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, well some actually some good news on that front.
It's just come through in the past few hours. Their
status has been upgraded to stable. They are still in hospital,
but yes, they were taken away in a critical condition
and treated for those injuries.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Now it's this week that Trump is actually been presented
as the candidate officially, isn't it that that's happening in Michigan.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I think is it Friday, No Milwaukee having in Milwaukee here,
and this is where we are right now. We are
at the Republican National Convention right now, So it'll begin
tomorrow Monday here local times will start and that is
that formal process by which, yeah, yeah, the party actually
gives that official nomination and Donald Trump will accept that.
He's put out a statement today, in fact, saying that
(04:39):
he is going to come to Milwaukee. Nothing's going to
stop him, and he's really given those assurances to his
supporter base that this isn't going to derail his campaign. Now,
we are also expecting a major announcement from Donald Trump
this week, and whether or not that has now been
put on hold, well once you check the brawls. But
I think he actually has to announce it before Thursday
when he officially accepts that nomination. Of course, his vice
(05:00):
presidential pick who is going to be his running So
it's always going to be a massive week for Republicans
and Donald Trump, you got it.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Do you think that this is going to change the
way the rest of the election campaign plays out?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I think so. I think it has to. This has
been a tectonic shift. And we're expecting to hear from
the US President in just a few hours time, maybe
an hour and a half or so. He's going to
give that live address to the nation from the Oval Office.
So this is going to be a moment for Joe
Biden to try and lower the temperature here in the
United States. And you just have to jump online at
the moment and the level of vitriol, anger, flat out
(05:39):
fury at the moment between the left and the right
in politics, it's just at another level right now, as
you could well imagine. Look, Donald Trump bears a lot
of responsibility for that as well. He has been the
man whipping that up. He has long used that very
powerful language. She's been the master of insults and takedowns
and really weaponizing language in a lot of ways. But yeah, really,
(06:03):
something needs to change you because after what happened yesterday,
I mean, it could have ended very differently.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
What about Trump insisting as he's been lifted to the
able to put his shoes back on, but insisting on
standing up and punching the air and saying fight fight.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Let's just say Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, it's very Trump. He's taken the opportunity to in
that moment to have the Wherewithal? I have the you know,
he's very lucid at that point in time. And what's
the talk about that? Because we'll be seen as a
strength for Republicans.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I mean, this is a man who is a master
of the image, right, So he's an old school TV executive,
knows the power of images. He's used it for a
very long time in his political campaign. He gets how
TV works, he gets how pictures work, and he has
had that as you say, Wherewithal in that instance, that
moment he has heard that bullet wing past his head,
(06:51):
one has clipped him on the ear, he's seen the blood.
He's gone to ground very deliberately, but within seconds he
was back up on his feet. He had blood smear
across his face, and he knew he would have to
have known that in that moment all eyes were on him,
if they weren't already, he had the stage and he
has used that to his advantage in the most spectacular
(07:13):
of fashions.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know something that Clercy and I noticed yesterday, David,
with all that's been going on with Joe Biden and
his image, we'd never seen him so lucid and clear
in the way he responded to this.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah he was good, wasn't he quite forceful in his
response to this? And I suppose there has been Look,
Joe Biden has really lifted his game and he had to.
I mean it was quite die there. It still is
quite dial lets. We can't know the fact that there's
still a lot of pressure under Joe Biden right now
because he just hasn't been performing in the way that
his supporters in his base want him to perform right now.
(07:49):
But it has to be said, the last couple of
public performances and rallies that he's held, look they've been
markedly better, but yeah, still not up to scratch. But
then there was that address yesterday, those remarks and now
quite conciliatorate to Donald Trump. They had a chat between
each other as well, and we've got some more details
about that. It was described as brief but respectful. And
then today Joe Biden has been back out again and
(08:12):
he has offered Donald Trump and the Republican Party all
the support that they need now ahead of this convention.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
It was Bizari the current presidents to call him Donald
twice in one statement, which was quite bizarre but very presidential.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, it'll be interesting to see how it pans out
over the next few days, and let's just hope that
perhaps we can reign back with some of the mad
conspiracy madness sprung out of this. But David, thanks so
much for your time.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Thank you guys,
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