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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Elliott, Good morning. Well, it was an interesting
game on the weekend. It was beaten by the Cats
in Adelaide by forty seven points, but the Eagles dominated
the first ten minutes. Then Geelong went on to kick
a huge hole. Then the Eagles won the second half
of the game, and then the Cats. The damage had
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already been done, hadn't it the.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Case had won it?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Had we go what was?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
How would you sum up that game?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Probably our second quarter let us down, and it let
us down really really bad. And so I think they
bagged on maybe ten goals plus or something. Yeah, so
hard to sort of make up ground from that point.
But yeah, you're also kind of you know, we'll review
it today and we'll go through how do we stop that?
But I think teams as well in the competition, and
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especially Geelong in parts as well. During the game, it's
hard to stop momentum. And it's maybe because of a
few rule changes or something like that, but it's very
very hard to teams once they're on a roll. And
we were the same. I think we end up kicking
in the second half, you know, eight.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Straight as well.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
So it is it is an arm wrestle and sometimes
teams just really drop the hammer, and you know, it's
really it's.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Really really hard to stop that.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
And I guess maybe the sixty x sixth rules, I
don't know, but I think throughout and you look it
through basically every single game, that's what's going on. So
but unfortunately we weren't able to stop that bleeding and
they just absolutely annihilate us in the second quarter.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
See we see gelong early. It gets so far ahead
first fourteen goals to two or three at one stage. Psychologically,
is it hard to just keep going and keep pushing.
And in the old days you see decide like you
and kick twenty eight or thirty goals doesn't seem to
happen anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
No, I try to look at things from a logical
point of view, and you know, what's the best way
to stop it? And especially when you're out there, you're
trying to find patterns that you know you can try to,
you know, nip in the butt really as quick as possible.
So it's it is. It's from the back line as well,
when the balls coming down there quite fast. A lot
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on TV, it's not the greatest spot to be in.
But yeah, in the end, we were absolutely annihilated in
stoppages and from that point on, and they were coming
out pretty hard and pretty fast, and you know, for
us down back, it was pretty hard to stop that.
So most teams running through looking pretty good out of
the stoppage, getting a free rein at having to kick
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inside fifty that's pretty hard to stop. So any defender
is going to have a hard day to trying to
defend that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Your first half was a very distinct tale of two quarters.
Playing on his name, Jeremy Cameron keeps it quiet in
the first quarter, and then he kicked four goals in
the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah, I was flat.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Was there a wind change or something?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
No, I was off two of them and one of them,
one of them was like a little cheapy over the top.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
So I was flat. I was on the bench seating.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Yeah because to it.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, I was seeing So yeah, he got he got
too early. And then one was just.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
A very good goal and fair enough. He took an
awesome mark. Yeah, well played.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
And another one due to team defense and stuff like that.
They came racing out the middle and I depressed and
then they just hit him up. So it's like a
fair enough you know whatever. That Yeah, So yeah, in
the second quarter. Yeah, he probably he probably sort of,
you know, got a few things go his way, which
you know, that's football things.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Things like that happened.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
But I thought for the rest of it and probably
the first third and fourth, you know, rothy and I
sort of had him covered, which was good.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, this dangerfield guy, when he gets his confidence right,
play a bit, won't.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
He's a good player. He's a good player ball as
anyway he is.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
He's an absolute ball and he's still got for I
don't know how old he is, his thirty four or.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Something like that.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, he's still got his speed, which is pretty good.
So yeah, he's an absolute freak of a player. But
there's also a few things that's probably a bit questionable.
Poor or Jimpy's throat.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Which I saw it, Yeah, yeah, poor Oh yeah, because
the throat was the foot up for the fend off
with the boot correct.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Yeah, yeah, needs to be nailed. When you're taking a
mark and you stick.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Your foot up, it sounds like a game of twister.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I thought they stamped it out.
Speaker 6 (04:14):
Thought they did to get called that one.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Now, unfortunately you didn't make it to the end of
the game. What is going on? Are you injured? How
bad is it? What has happened?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, I had skins last night, so I know more
today and tomorrow, and I guess what what it looks
like for me in terms of what I'm going to
have to do and how I'm going.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
To come back.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
But yeah, I don't think it'll be out too long.
But I can't it's too hard to search you the
g royin g Royan. It's been a trouble spot for
I've never I've never done a groin before. I've had
op and that was a bit different because i had
bone stress, which is complete different spot to where i've
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you know, where it feels like it sort of hurts
a bit. So I've never done one before, so this
is kind of like a bit of what the hell's
going on?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Once?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, ten pin bowling working from the strike, you must
have really given it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
A rik I did.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
In a full less bowling alley anyway, in the whole
way or.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Something's blaming the bowling shoes.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, yeah, bowling at the hotel doesn't sound it was.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, yeah, but anyway, it is getting worse and worse.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I just thought it might feel better.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Let me laugh at it.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Now along he's he's been a great pick up, seems
adapted very well, very quickly to a f l.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Very smart football and has a crack. So I'm sitting
on the bench in the fourth padded, Andrew has.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Got the ball like big too. No it was not
the tallest of blokes, and he's just going.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Right at him and absolutely nawed him in a tackle.
So that's the type of thing that you want to see,
Like he's hungry.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
A tackle, not in v tackle.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's the type of thing you
want to see. And I guess that's a as a
fan as well and as a player, you see that
type of thing, you go, this kid just wants to
play and he's desperate and you love that. So yeah,
we've got some good kids coming through.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Him Westy and those kind of blokes. You just have
a real crane.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, absolutely, that's what and that's all you can ask for,
especially as a as another player and as a fan
as a coach, the only thing that you can really
ask for is just everyone has a crack.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah yeah, your time in the midfield, mate, you're getting
a few clearances and a few funcase at the end,
already at that point where you I felt good, yeah, yeah,
running freely yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
No, I felt really good, so flat, very flat that
I ended up getting injured because I was enjoying my
time there. It was clearly I was purely just doing
some centate bounces because we're sort of getting a bit
carved up and stoppages and CB so I was supposed
to go in for them and then shuffle back. Yeah,
but yeah, a couple of times got the clearance.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's very glamorous to be part of that whole as
a footballer, is it.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's like a pretty cool moment to be the one
that there's just a.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Lot of responsibility.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
As a midfielder, you have a lot of responsibility on
the shoulders because it pretty much the game is either
one or.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Sometimes got the opposition on your shoulders.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Well exactly, but you know in the second quarter, Geelong
sort of just came out of the guts every single time,
and as a midfielder you have to stop that. Or
if you look at it from their perspective, they're going,
how great sits? So we getting a lot of four
to fifty entries and we're getting a lot of goals
out of it. So there's a lot of responsibility.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
All the rolls. Royce is are park.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah, now the Eagles have flown home, but we'll travel
back to Adelaide to play Port Adelaide on Saturday. Why
did the team not just stay in Adelaide for the
week the points?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Mate? Yeah, I think the theory behind that was they
prefer players to be in their own bed, So even
though it's only for a couple of days, I guess
the benefits of being in your own bed and getting
proper sleep, yeah, is probably a bit better than staying
in Adelaide.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So okay, that was the theory.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And plus it's only two two and a half our flight,
so it's not ridiculous. Yeah, Okay, so I think that
was probably the theory. Why. But I mean, if they
had a scheduled maybe a five day break, it might
have been a different story. Or instead of a six
days sort of thing, six days kind of like oh
do we know what do we do? We stay to
we go five days? It definitely would have been Okay,
we're staying and we're going to play it.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
And then obviously the gather round was very successful because
I've got it for another three years over there in
Adelaide was the vibe.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
It was good.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, it had a little type of Grand Final sort
of weak feel to it, if that that makes sense,
just with I guess everybody in the city being so
busy and the appearance that we had to do beforehand,
you know, jump on stage and sort of mingle with everybody.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
So I sort of had a little bit of a
feel like that too.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It was it like when you were in the hubs,
you know during COVID.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
No, completely different completely.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Because there was a pall over that.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Yeah. Yeah, in the hubs it was like literally hotel,
you're not allow nobody anywhere streets.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Coach for football. Well that was on of the weekend
as well.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeats, Yeah it was. I thought it was really great.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
You know, my little cousin flew over from Perth and
they had a rip at time, went to the Barossa.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Did all that went to every game?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Went to lots of games, didn't they.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yep, So they were the same.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
They pretty much watched every single game that was Adelade
over and they absolutely loved it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Had a wicked time.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Shannon hern looks likely to be back this week after
being arrested, and how much of a chance as Luke shall.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
We I think, yeah, they're still they're still in the air.
They've got to get through Thursday's training. So so if
they do that, they tick that box and I'm sure
they're going to put their hand up, but we will
have to wait and see where those those two as well.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I'm worried about Noah Long being at First Ruck this week.
How's that, Mate'd be a worried. Yeah, the young boys,
they're going all right.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I mean I remember when I was in my first
year and it can you know, halfway through the year
I was absolutely gassed, only played a handful of games,
not even so they've played every game just about. So yeah,
I'm sure the club is going to do the right
thing by them and you know, monitor their loads as
well and try and help them get through. So we
just got to be careful and cautious of that.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Yeah. Yeah, because young gin are getting the poker the
eye from Dangerfield, you could seem really distressed bite as well.
Of course it would bloody well hurt.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, it's not great. Yeah, it's not great at all.
So but yeah he got a corky too, so.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He's you know, yeah, all the good ones, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
They're not yeah, yeah, day out. Yeah, along also his
first goal. That's true.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
It was good. It did look good, didn't it.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
The comment get around it. I don't realize so Big
is a big big boy.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, yeah, it'd be one ninety cent a minute.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
What's with this story about the club maybe asking the
Waffle to postpone the Eagles versus East Freemantle game.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, well where I don't think it will happen, but yeah, unfortunately,
the injuries have just struck us. So it's going to
be hard for us to feel a fully sort of
fit team because you know, we've only got a handful
of players to pick for the ones you loan the twos,
so yeah, yeah, unfortunately, it's just kind of it.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Would make it. I mean, it's a bit cheeky.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Really, it is postpone our game because we don't want
any more injured players.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's not whoa.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think it will happen, and I
don't think Comssion will let it happen.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But it would be a precedent.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Yeah, we top up players for both third grades.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, I mean I saw an article as well saying
that you know, the commission are going to look at
you know, hopefully helping us out, which would be a
good thing. Whether or not you know that happens, who knows.
But you know, we've been needing help for a few
years because we've been decimated by injury and unfortunately our
Waffle team just hasn't been able to sort of.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Keep up.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Head injury is a really big thing in sport, and
we've seen it with the NFL and various other sports,
and there's been a lot of talk in the AFL
and the club is putting the first step forward in
a lot of ways. If it comes to trauma insurance.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, there is.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
There's a few of a few players that have signed
up for it, which is really good. Yeah, it's I
guess coming off of two players Sheppy and Venners with
two pretty horrific head injuries.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Why wouldn't you do it?
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Why wouldn't you try and protect yourself for the worst
case scenario, just in case. It's like all things in life,
health insurance is probably that evil necessity that you have
to pay for, and you know, especially in our game
where it's a contact sport, why wouldn't you try and
ensure yourself just for just in case?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Well, Gary, but Senior is suing the AFL, Angelong and
Hawthorne for damages for brain injuries sustained during his career.
So it's going to be interesting to see how that goes.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, it will be.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
But I can see as well what the FLA trying
to do with the game. So with this whole trying
to protect the head tackles everything.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So they've known for a long time now they have.
But yeah, it's this is not this hasn't just come
about in the last year or so. No, but I
have been a problem for I.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Think it's going to be. Yeah, it's an interesting topic.
It's a hard topic to talk about because it's Pandora's box. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, and I'm sure there's not just one player, just
like Gary. There's going to be a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
No, there's a lot, a lot that I've already died
that we found out this business of not knowing correct
about that condition that I can't pronounce until.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Shan Smith, a former Melbourne High flyer, he's one of
them that's on the list too.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, So that's from my point of view as well.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
That's the reason why a few of the West Coast
Eagles players have jumped on board on this insurance policy.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
It's just you know, hopefully the rest of the league
can end up getting on it, and you know, players
are actually protected because it's a good.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Idea, but prevention would be better than the cure.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, well it's fun. The prevention is that you don't
have a contact sport.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And unfortunately forty country helvets or something, well, helmets don't.
If you look at the nf NFL over in America,
they wear helmets and they've got the worst for CT.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yeah, it's almost one thing before you go there, Earliott,
because like you said, it's Pandora's box.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
But it's a player.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
You know, from the time you're a little kid, if
you're playing the game as a even a six seven
year old, you you know that you encourage to go hard,
go at it. But even something like a sling tackle,
you're trying to tackle as hard as you can to
get the ball off that player. Yeah, I'm pretty much banned,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, it is. The sling tackle is. But I think
as hard as any any sort of tackle now that the.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Head sort of get gets risked of, you know, hitting
their ground at some sort of force, even though it
might not be a sling. Yeah, you know, players are
getting a week four. So where do you find the
line of Okay, that's a good tackle, that's not a
good tackle. Okay, he had the ball in one arm,
but he had his other arm pin to his Does
he just drop the ball? Does the do the rules
need to change a little bit in order to give
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the players, you know, a little bit more because half
the reason why the players bring the ball to the
player to the ground is because they want the holding
the ball rule. So it's a matter of okay, well,
is it a honess of the player to hold on
to the football or is thenest of the player to
get rid of the ball and use that you get
ping for holding the ball, but use his spare arm
that he has to protect himself.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
So there's all these different things that I would have
thought that'd have to look into in terms of, you know,
holding the ball rule. You know, what's a good tackle
what's not, because at the moment it's a bit wishy
washy and it's hard to you know, it's not it's
not outcome based either. It's not always being concast it's like, Okay,
that just looks like a dangerous tackle and we'll give
you a week. So it's kind of yeah, it's a
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it's a little bit hard to understand. Where where's the
line at the moment?
Speaker 7 (15:57):
All right, Well off back to Adelaide this week. Good
luck to the team, Thank you, things cross. We come
away with the win, if we if we stop the
fade out so we you know, we're still we look good.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Yeah, got some boys kicking goals up forward as well.
All the best, but good to talk.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Thank you,