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September 15, 2024 13 mins

A few weeks back we did a series called Clairsy and Lisa’s Perth Pub Crawl in which we chatted to people who were heavily involved in Perth’s live music scene in the 70s and 80s and 90s. One of those people was Dave Crosby from Ice Tiger. He talked about the eclectic mix of musicians in the band.

The Perth actor talks about season 2 of The Lord of The Rings: The Power of The Rings which is out on Prime Video now. He shares how he went from being a teenager in Freo to in the most expensive TV show ever made.

Clairsy and Lisa discuss a hilarious story about sharks in Brazil testing positives for drugs.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is Claresy and Lisa's podcast Today.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is the Claresy and Lisa Rewound podcast with some
of the bits you may have missed.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
A couple of months back, we did Claresy and Lisa's
Perth pub crawl and we caught up with Dave Crosby,
who was once the lead singer of Ice Tiger. The
band had an interesting blend of musicians. Dave, you had
a rock metal background, you did. Graham and Steve had
been in one of the city's more popular top forty
cover bands. Never the twain were meant to meet and yet,

(00:36):
you know, how did you find each other and go, well,
actually this is really going to work.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Well that's really quite a long story.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
We got together by accident and possibly people that we knew.
And I went to see Flash Harry that who was
working with and I thought, oh, yeah, this guy's dangerous,
you know. And he heard that my band True Colours
was breaking up. Yeah, so me if I'd like to
come down and try out for the job, you know.

(01:04):
And once we'd got the rehearsal over and done with
and we started work. Graham and I we went to
vic Park for a ride to try and find another
venue that was this side of the river.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
And once we scored.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
The venue, we came out, sat in his van and
we started singing a song, an old Ronnie Dio song
called Rainbow Eyes, and he harmonized all the way through
it absolutely perfectly. I sang the main pup, he did
the high harmony, and it just sounded amazing, you know.
And then he just sort of folded his arms and
he said, do you remember an annoying little kid that

(01:45):
came up to you in the mid seventies and you
gave him a lift home? And I looked at him
and I said, you're not him. Nobody else could have
known that story.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
It is unreal.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
But yeah, we got.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
Really close for many years, and we wrote some pretty
good tunes together. Also, Don Benson was a really good
part of the songwriting within the band.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, Greenie was always my perth. Steve Vai or someone
I was telling me such a great guitarist and standing
down on the night that the album was launched in
ninety one, right in front of him down there, that
was something pretty special and the fans came out, didn't they.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
Yeah, he is an amazing guitarist. He always has been.
I was privileged to work with him, to be honest
and think, and we did have a good partnership. You know,
it was great.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
We know you played at the Charles. Lost of good
memories from the Charles. What are some of the other
pubs that you played at back.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
In the day.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
The Herdsman, Yeah, Raffles, of course, the Raffles, Yes.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
What was the old be called stage door or something,
and of course some country gigs.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Your first show was in Management, wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Do you remember a New Year's Eve?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Mad?

Speaker 5 (03:10):
What do you go?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, I just didn't expect to have as many people
as we did on the first opening night, but they
must have built it really well for us. Like I said,
we've got about five hundred people in a place that
only holds about six. And then they as soon as
they heard us, they were ringing their.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Friends start for you know, live acts.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
So yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Would have gone to a phone phone.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Real yeah, and they were they were lining up waiting
to ring their mates to get on down. You know.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, it's amazing, right, your first Perth show was at
the Raffles, and at that time there were a lot
of cover bands doing a lot of you know, mainstream
top forty style stuff, and then you came out with
that much more rockier show.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Were people like oh at last?

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Well?

Speaker 4 (04:06):
I think it was. It just came naturally as a
progression for me. I was in heavy metal bands before that,
and then the progression to go to glam rock wasn't
really that hard, except for putting on those silly out
but it wasn't that hard to actually sing the songs

(04:28):
and get to know them and feel good with them
and that, you know. I mean, we had some great
bands to pick from, White Snake, Yeah, bon Jovi, of course,
Motley Crue, all those sort of bands that were around
Poison or the hair bands, but nonetheless we made the transition.

(04:49):
I think it was harder maybe for Don because he
had never played in a hard rock bambo.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
But as soon as he started.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Listening to the the Bonjoe the album Slippery went went
this is my favorite stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Everything right right?

Speaker 5 (05:04):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, he was up for it. Yeah, so it worked
out great.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
What were the pants of choice for you, mate? Were
you leather or spandex? What did you go there? The leather.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Jeans, Glamorox not for you very rock and roll.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Quite a few of the hand the hairbands are wearing it.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
More c More Lisa More podcasts soon.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
This is the Clary Lisa Rewound podcast Lord of the Rings.
The Power of the Rings has been on TV recently
and we got to chat to a boy from Frio
by the name of Tyro Muhafaden, who was plucked from
obscurity to play THEO in the series. Tyro, how did
it come about that you were plucked from school in
Frio aged fourteen? You're nineteen now for season one?

Speaker 6 (05:51):
I have honestly no clue. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
I'm really really grateful to be in this position. It's crazy.
I just set off an audition and then they liked me,
so I'm here.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I'm any better than that. What was it like those
early days on set in New Zealand and that such
a young age, what, you're fifteen by the time you
started filming.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Yeah, I mean it was so scary, so daunting.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
But to be honest, set that big, especially like so
young and inexperienced, it was such an overwhelming thing.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
But I had such great castmates.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Who really like made me feel comfortable and great directed
and it was actually a really great experience.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah. So back to that audition.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
You're at John Curtin Senior High School, you're fourteen, You
send off an audition tape of some sort, and then
what happened. We love to find out where you were
and how you were when you got the call that
you got the part.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
So really crazy story. I was actually considering quitting acting
at the time when I was auditioning.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, full of pins. Yeah, so that illustrious career.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
So I've been doing it since I was nine, and
I was just kind of like tossing and turning on it.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
If I enjoyed it anymore, had it they know?

Speaker 5 (07:01):
And then I told my agent. I was like, look,
I don't know if I want to do this anymore.
She was like, we just put a tape down for
rings and you're actually shortlisted, so let's let's hold on.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
That justin k okay.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, six months went past, didn't hit anything, and then
I got a call from my agent saying you're still shortlisted.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
By the way, I'm like, oh cool.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
And I thought that was an achievement in itself, and
then it moves really really quickly. They were just like, actually,
can you come to New Zealand for a screen test?

Speaker 6 (07:29):
Oh my god, yeah I did. It was kind of
out of the blue.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
And then they gave me the role a week later,
and yeah, I guess they kind of they kind of
saved me because I actually do really really love this.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, so I moved slow that it moved really fast.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, then you're there.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, Well, what can you tell us about season
two and what Theo's storyline might entail, because well, THEO
lost everything in the first season.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Can we expect more dark times?

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Possibly?

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Job I Tolkien.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
Ye, the men of the Southlands don't have it easy.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
But yeah, so THEO lost basically everything at the end
of the last season.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
He's grieving this season.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
That's That's a really important thing that I like to
point out, is that grief isn't linear, and that's something
we like to explore in this this season and the
stages of grief, and he feels guilty and he wants
to rectify things for his people.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Then we get to watch him grow.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
Up and become a man almost kind of.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Okay, that's quite a lot going on really, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Yeah, it's profound. Speaking of growing growing up, what about
that breaking filming? So you start filming fifteen, there's a
COVID breaking. Obviously your face has changed in that time.
What did they see, Giu younger? What was going on there?

Speaker 6 (08:36):
It's so funny. They actually the plan was they were.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
Predicting that my voice was going to drop during this
during the season, so they were like, what we're going
to do is we're going to shoot everything. We're going
to get you to a d R everything later. Yeah,
and then the pandemic came in at the perfect time
because as soon as it hit, I just had a
massive growth spurt and my voice dropped. And then Amazon
were like, oh, actually that's great, we don't have to
do any ADR.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
It was just awesome.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
You didn't get the boy that they cast.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Took care of itself.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Now you shot season one in New Zealand, but season
two you're shooting in London. So, apart from being hugely
exciting that you get to go and live in London.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
For a while, why the change.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
I honestly don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Just a seeking thing shooting.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
Yeah, the higher up thing. I have no idea, but yeah,
London was great. It's a real privilege to get to
travel for work. It's like, especially being so young, you
get to see almost every corner of the world.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah, I'm so glastre was it Comic Con in Perth recently? Well,
it was called super and over here this time around.
And it's such a cool day down at the convention
center because everyone's dressed up and having fun and bye
bye toys. I know you love the comic cons. What
was it like being at one of those and being
on the other side of the autograph desk.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
It's wild.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I actually went to Comic Con a month ago in
San Diego, which is like.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
The big one that's the wild Yeah.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, and we got we got to do a
panel in whole h which was nuts that I had
no idea how many people were actually in there until
they opened the doors at the back and it just
went way further than I thought. But yeah, it's just
crazy because I was geeking out at the power Ranger.
Maybe Joe Johnson was there. I think that some people
could think that about me is kind of wild.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
I don't know. I haven't wrap my head around.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Actually, have you got a figurine mate? Have you had
a toy?

Speaker 6 (10:23):
I haven't. Actually, I might demand one.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I should mention that comic con is already insane, as
you say, but then j R. R. Tolkien fans are
some of the most hardcore in the world. On top
of that, how have the fan interactions been.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
What's the craziest thing of fans asked you to do?

Speaker 5 (10:42):
I don't think there's been anything too crazy. I think
sometimes they find out hotel and I have no idea
how We're just like killing somewhere, and then all of
a sudden there's just a group of them down at
the entrance. I'm like, how did you know we were here?
But that's kind of cool. I think that people are
passionate enough to do that.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
Yeah, the basics like super.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Supportive and I've only been shown love, which is really
really great, and I feel super motivated to put my best.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
In for them.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
More Clezy, more Lisa, more podcasts soon.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like a C grade movie starring Can I call him
Ian Zering?

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (11:17):
He likes iron but does he think he's.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Iron Man or something? And Zering used to be in
Beverly Hills nine Ozer two and but he made a
couple of Sharknado movies. Scientists have discovered cocaine inside sharks
caught off Brazil and.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
The cocaine inside shark.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Inside sharks and they're not smugglers. No, well, it might
be something to do with smuggling, but they're concerned it
maybe changing their behavior because they're saying that perhaps the
drug being digested by these animals is making them more
aggressive and unpredictable in their behavior.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
You're going to need a bigger note, the biggest supply.
How is the cocaine getting to them? It's just getting
into the water, so they think he's getting into the water.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
You don't have they test out week and they go, oh,
there's so much mess. Not tests on thirteen Brazilian sharp
nose sharks.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Nose. Yeah, I'm Steve when nick stars. If they're not.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Careful nose, they'll soon be known as white nose sharks
if I keep this out. Taking off the waters of
Rio dated Era revealed they had high levels of the
recreational narcotic and their liver and in their muscles. Sharks,
I'm wondering what the fishermen. Their music is bait?

Speaker 2 (12:21):
It's going on? What's going on? It's not early a
party mix?

Speaker 1 (12:26):
A party mix is right, which makes me think of music.
But they're saying that are less likely source than just
at being in the water in general, is the sharks
of feeding on bales of cocaine that were lost or
abandoned by that of course, by prosthetic smugglers or those
who've gone, or we might be they might be onto us,
will bolt and just leave the gear here.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
On the up side, they they're less likely to eat
you because they're not going to be as hungry you.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Actually, they'd to chat your ear off.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Min do you've heard of steaks on a plane? Now
it's sharks in a cartel. Don't worry, I mind you.
I'd like to see the movie.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
They're they're all just raving. I think I think they
are crazy and Lisa ninety six avem

Speaker 5 (13:09):
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