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April 28, 2025 • 45 mins

Clairsy & Lisa opened the phones to find out what was in your food after a news story about a person who had a snake wrapped around their straw.

Elliot Yeo joined Clairsy & Lisa from his sick bed as he battles with the flu. They talked about Oscar Allen's return to the field and got the latest on his own foot injury.

Clairsy had an inicident at a cafe last week and he told Lisa all about it.

Dr. Rachel Toles is a forensic psychologist and she's coming to Perth next month for a show at the Astor called The Psychology of Serial Killers. Clairsy & Lisa had a chat about what we can expect from the show and has she ever had a serial killer in her audience.

In The Shaw Report, the new inductees to the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame plus why Oasis are back in the charts with a 30 year old hit.

Rhonda Burchmore came into the studio to plug Sister Act-The Musical which she's starring in along with Casey Donovan.

With the Federal Election just days away, the guys got talking about the last debate and why eggs are all of a sudden a priority.

There's a new food app and it's a really great one. Lisa told Clairsy all about it.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Powered by the my Heart Radio app from ninety six
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Wherever you're listening today. This is Clarcy and Lisa's podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Coming up on the podcast a fascinating chat with forensic
psychologist doctor Rachel Tolls about serial killers.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Ron de Burschmore talks about Sister and the musical.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
On the Shore Report, Lisa got us up to date
with the latest inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Clares. He shares a story about his coffee order.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
We take calls on what you found in your food
and drink.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Elieo chat's about the loss to the Hawks and playing.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
The DS this week, and Lisa has some great news,
a good news story about a new food app that's
gone viral.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
I do enjoy a cocktail, not this early.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
It's okay, hold, but you know later in the day,
but I like it without wildlife. A woman in a
restaurant in Virginia in the US, a Mexican restaurant called Patron,
found a snake in her margarita. Now we're not talking
at Burmese python obviously, because it was wrapped around her straw.

(00:57):
So it was a teeny weeny little baby Bubby snake,
but it.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Was nonetheless any baby bubby.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
It was nonetheless a snake, yes, And she didn't request
a snake. She requested some salsa, but no snake, so
it was wrapped around the straw.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
She said, I left because I was shaking.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I was traumatized, because you know how people get traumatized
very easily these days.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
It was just a little baby bubby.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
When you're talking to a lawyer, you get really traumatized.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, absolutely increasingly traumatized. Restaurant workers did try to remove
the snake but couldn't get at it because it was
too small. Anyway, another customer removed the snake and took
it outside.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
She said, her name is Colotter.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
She said she in. The restaurant offered her a new table.
I don't know how that changes.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
It was a snake in press table.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
We'll put you in the non snake section. But she said, no,
thank you. I'm traumatized and shaking and I'm leaving. Mat
Me just finish that.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
I'll just scull that.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
The restaurant owner said the snake probably entered through an
air conditioning units, not meant to be in the drink.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
It is a movie, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
On a straw, Snakes on a straw.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Have you ever, mister Claires, encountered something in your order?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
It wasn't meant to be there.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well as you know, you know me well list for
a long long time. I don't need much. There's not
many opportunities for me to get things.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Eighting five times this morning.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I have. That's it still. The old man Dad once Reginald.
He it wasn't often that Dad cooked because he was
always busy working and working and working.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Unless he was adding tomato ketch up to us spaghetti.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
It was a joke, single man. So the old man
decided he was going to cook for us once and
so the four kids were all he was going to
make lunch. Mon went oh good, or take the break
So the four kids were all lined up with so
we also had it. Our orange breakfast bar are there
and caring up hasn't had so straight ye, and you know,
like the big kids going down in order of age

(02:58):
waiting for our mac and cheese and mac and cheese
and yeah, with that, even Mom was happy with Dad,
and that was rare. And so we started holing into
the mac and cheese. On this Saturday afternoon and sunny Saturday,
and Karen and we went, Dad, what are those little
things on there? Like on the mac and cheese? He goes,
oh those Oh that's flavor, that's flavor. May yeah, weavils

(03:23):
because one of them moved, said you didn't cook this
one very well, Dad, This one moved weavels. So you
can imagine how quickly the mood changed in the caring
our household. And guess we never cooked blunch again.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Wack and cheese.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't know how much I ate, but I know
one of my sisters had hoding. I think she had
hold in. Tell you what, that would have a lot
of weavils in her belly to be.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Put off your mac and cheese.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, it takes a lot.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
It would be a very sad day because it is
the ultimate, most wonderful comfort food.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh my god, you're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Good mac and cheese.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
But I like the way he sold it. Oh yeah,
there'd be flavor.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
So he knew that something was a miss, but he
carried on.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
No.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I think he legitimately thought it was some kind of
pepper or something going on. Now I'm not really sure,
but definitely evils, because actually it might have been one
and mum's plate that moved anyway, like anyway they got divorced.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
What is a wevil's ball?

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Weavil well, a tiny little crawler.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's a little crawling inside.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Tiny little black thing that get into your packets.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, but evil.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It was not good, not good.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Anything that is predominantly the word evil.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, it's gonna you know.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Double what was in your food that wasn't meant to
be there? Or your drink?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
It could be a drink. Yeah, snakes on the straw
feel free to get I.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Have seen my finger go into a drink and just
scoop something because I'm not going to let one tiny
little midgi.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Put you off a good drink put.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Me off that real nice class of burlow.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Very smart woman.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Got a text from anonymous that says, I found a
couple of my bartender's eyelash extensions in my cocktail. That's
a bit of a worry when your your cosmos winking
at you.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, that's gross.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
It's got a guzzies Jamie, Hello, Hello, what do you
find in your food?

Speaker 5 (05:15):
I had a cocktail and final Queensland and there was
a passed away gecko in it.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
A dead gecko. A former Geko Parrott sketch in Queensland.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
It is actually yeah, yeah, but did you say say
it to them straight away? Jamie? Do you just go
excuse me about probably the way for the drink?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
The gecko have a cocktail umbrella red just floating around.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
It's just floating around.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Okay, So it wasn't there a weird idea of a garnish. Okay?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
You didn't drink it. You didn't get a chunk or anything.
You just saw it in there, didn't, Thank goodness, Jamie, thank.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
You, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
You do get those.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, it can happen.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
They're the noisy ones, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I don't make quite a bit of noise.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I know when that's moll drowning in your drink. Not good.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
On the text, cach in Double V says she found
half a steel opad as she was devouring some chili
muscles at a Scarborough restaurant once about thirty years ago.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
That's disgusting. Half a steel o.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Half a steel opad.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
You know, they say there's only one thing worse than
finding something in your foods, finding half on half of it.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
But I think you'd know if you'd eat.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
A steel that's got a scratch on the way.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Down, fancy biting thing and going, oh, this has been
washing dirty dishes.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
She wears your tongue would have been clean though.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
You would imagine good scrub. I would imagine there was
no tip that night. Let's go to buy jess.

Speaker 7 (06:58):
Well including late morning?

Speaker 3 (07:00):
What was the food?

Speaker 7 (07:02):
So I'm being rich aumatized now, But many years ago
I was sitting down to enjoy a last bottle of Yeah. Now,
I thought I was gonna like that guy, because I
swear to God I had the juice is sultana. However,
there was a movement. It was a dirty, stinking cockroad

(07:23):
come out of my cereal. Ever, I want to eat
sultana everything.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
That's that's what it would take. You thought you'd found
the king of sultana. Yeah, there's always fruit loops and
you can got something that's natural all away, the bowl

(07:58):
of fruit lots.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Chess. Well done therapy for that Wryan in Morley?

Speaker 3 (08:09):
What was in yours?

Speaker 8 (08:11):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (08:11):
Back in the day in the seventies, worked in Mayra
in the city. Used to go to a coffee shop nearby,
got my coffee, and back in those days the sugar
was in like a glass jar.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
With a spout.

Speaker 9 (08:23):
I don't know whether and I'm staring my coffee. Next thing,
there's this dead, big brown cockroach with its legs all
turned in, spinning around upside down in my coffee right
the sugar bowl.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeahout, he was a break dancer.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
It was incredible stroke in my coffee.

Speaker 9 (08:48):
I never went back to that coffee.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Shop because those things would have sat there for so
long and they'd be topped up. But you know, the
sugar at the bottom would be you know, since nineteen
fifty four, probably.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
The new sugars hidden all kinds of sins, no wor
have a good day.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Well, thanks dying, we think Gail in Ellenbrook on the
text I once bought a bag of mixed lettuce leaves,
you know, from the supermarket, and making my salad, I
found a gum leaf.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Sorry, a gum leaf.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Gum leaf.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Look, I think you get a bit of a rugler,
a bit of a cause, but a gum leaf.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
What about this one?

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Nick in Rockingham says, there used to be all you
could eat buffet, you know, restaurant in Rockingham. Cheap and cheerful,
very cheap, very cheerful, by the sounds of it. Husband
had sat down to tuck into his plate and picked
up his papa dump.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Took a closer look.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Then he picked it up, took it over to the
matre d of the restaurant and said loudly, a mouse
has taken a dump on my pappa.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Do well cheap but maybe not cheerful Matred though, like
this out of that.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
Clear and Lisa. Years ago, I was working at a
place in Basandine, back in the Ages, and we sued
to get the local gut truck rock up to grab
our food gut and I bought it. Yeah, it's just
like a delivery truck it. Yeah, So basically rushed out there,

(10:34):
grab yourself and meat pie and we chopped milk and
rush back in to sit down and got it down
so I could get back to work, and started chewing
on me pie and one of those square ones. And
I love my pies anyway, It's sort of I couldn't
get through this thing and it sort of didn't sort

(10:54):
of feel right in my mouth with an E and
I sort of spat it out and it had a
tail on it and you still at the back legs
hanging off of.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
I sort of off off pies for quite a few years.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
For a few years.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, when you had a Stuart little pie. That's not good.
That's gross.

Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah, I was beyond just to sort of actually see
what I actually head in my mouth, and it was yeah, yeah, yeah,
I used to used to draw a race for quite
a few years and thinking about it, but.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
For got the rest of the morning. That's not good.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
That's rank.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
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Speaker 3 (12:04):
Morning Elliott, good morning.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Now we've quarantined you because you have had a bit
of a dose of the lug.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I hear I have unfortunately, Yeah, that's the last thing.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
No, no, it's it hasn't been great.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Look at that. We go away and you get crooked.
Do you hear to look after you?

Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yes? So no, it's good. I can I can mute
in between and cofughe in between.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Okay, all right, Well the Eagles not not a success
against the Hawks. Lost by fifty points at Marvel Stadium
on Sunday one hundred and twenty four to seventy four.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Eagles co captain Oscar Allen.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
It was his first clash with Hawthorne since that highly
publicized and discussed meeting with Hawk's coach Sam Mitchell. He
started down the back? Did he started down back? Did
that move backfire? He looked a bit lost.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
I don't need get backfired. It's just sort of he
hasn't sort of played back on in a long time.
So he started off. He started off there in his
first couple of games actually from memory. And then yeah,
I think, look, maybe a chill is a pretty good
player in good form. So anyone, any defender is going
to have their work cut out for him, let alone

(13:21):
someone going back there for the first time in a
long time. So he did what he could. I thought
he worked into the game actually quite nicely towards the
back end of it. So hopefully we can start to
seeing him find some form.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Speaking of players being switched, may do you reckon? It's
a really big deal that Sammy Mitchell put Tommy Barrister
in the end of the forward line being a defender
and all that quite a bit's been made of that,
but then he might have been trying something for the future.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
I think after the game, because I've got a few
bitch time, so I was watching everything, so and I
watched every interview and yeah, look, Sam likes to throw
the magnets around and even when he was coaching it
at West Coast as well, he was doing the same thing.

(14:08):
So if he continues to do it, then that's fine.
It's not an issue at all. So I don't I
don't really want to look into it too much.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
That Barah took it personally.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Barrel was very Bara said he disrespected the eagle.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
He was lord of mortally wounded Barrel.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, I thought that was a slide over reaction.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
But anyway, now Melbourne is next at Opter Stadium on
Saturday night. Bounce Down's five point thirty, Melbourne fifteenth on
the ladder. They haven't had a great start to the season,
so this is a very winnable game.

Speaker 6 (14:41):
It is the shit in form, so okay, that's the
past couple of games they've they've won and Gorney looks
like it's in good form, so yeah, it's it's going
to be a tough gaper. I mean, Gorney's always every
time I played Melbourne, he's always played really well against us.
So fantastic player. He's going to be the one to

(15:02):
stop for us and it's going to be one or
lost in the middle as always.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, for Mattie Flinn, mate, it never gets easier, does it.
Lloyd Meet got nearly hit out or something and then
you get back, so it gets a lot of disposals
around the ground as well, because he's like the giant
ruck rover.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Oh yeah, it was always hard from the bottom. So yeah,
we're working on the things that we need to We're
trying to get better and hopefully we can continue to
make you know, massive improvements week on week and then
we can get a win soon enough, I'm hopeful, and
we can make our fans proud again.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
To be fair, and you know this isn't making excuses,
it is just to be fair, the fixtures get slightly
easier now. It has been a very it was a
very tough start with you know who you were lined
up to play.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah, it feels like it's been like that for the
past couple of years. With Fixtreme, Yeah, played a lot
of they've played a lot of the good teams through
throughout the season quite early, so that's okay. Though hopefully
we can, as I said, improve and try and find
a win coming up in the next coming weeks that
this one's this week is gettable chance.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Tim Kelly's toe mate, is that right? Any word?

Speaker 6 (16:16):
The buggers toes? So yeah, look, hopefully he can get
on the park. But yeah, toes that are not fun,
so you want to get careful with them. I've had
one of them, and I had one of them in
twenty eight een, and they are painful.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
They're sort of connected to everything that you use.

Speaker 4 (16:36):
I mean, it might look a bit funny next to
your name toe Kelly, but it is serious stuff.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Now, speaking of that, what's the update on you.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah, I'm waiting to get some more information from a
specialist and we're going to go from there. I tried
to run and couldn't progress any further than a couple
of k's when I was I was doing so, so yeah,
waiting to see on an expert opinion on how I
can continue to get further and increase my load in

(17:10):
training and then you can hopefully do it and start
playing games of football and.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
With all that time on the catch at the moment,
you'll be the most well up to date for the
analyst in the land. I would have made.

Speaker 10 (17:22):
Oh yes, yes, yes, yeah, I've gone stair crazy of
on my flirst every episode of Selling Selling Houses Australia.

Speaker 6 (17:33):
I have have you.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Watched the new series of Black Mirror? That's pretty good.

Speaker 11 (17:37):
I have.

Speaker 5 (17:39):
Got very good, very good.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
I've got too much time in my hands.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
All right, Well, Melbourne Off the Stadium Saturday night, five
thirty five is the bounce down.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
We will speak to you next week.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Sounds good. Then we'll text you some more show suggestions
and you've got one on Netflix to share.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
All the best More Crazy Weaser More podcast soon.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Laura and I said, Laurie, let's go for the last
day of the holidays, which was Sunday, which lined up
with school holidays, to go to one of our a
really cool coffee shop in fre I don't need to
mention the name, so you know me and my regular
order is a large almond cappuccino and one sugar, pretty straightforward,
and I've done it every day for years now, so
you're never going to say anything different when you order.
So I go to table number thirty four and Laura

(18:31):
and I sit there and I'm waiting.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
It was a busy, big cafe, big.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Cafe, table thirty four. It was a big cafe, and
a lot of people there, and a lot of people
who ride their bikes in the frio. We go to
this cafe anyway. So I sit down at table thirty four,
and it was busy. So you wait for a while
for your coffee to come and cool with that, no problem.
The coffee rock up to your table to bring it
to your table. At this place, it was fancy. No
they had a barrister and they had matre d And

(18:55):
I've had almond milk. My stomach's determined I need almond
milk as opposed to normal milk. So I'm not wronging
around on the floor and paying for about four years,
so I know when it's not almond milk in a cappuccinos.
First sip, well, this tastes weird, This taste like cow's milk.
And I don't want to be lying on the floor
rolling around. So so instead of going back to where
I ordered, I went to the straight to the barista,

(19:16):
straight to the sauce, and I just went up and said, look,
I think this person's got my order wrong.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
I may have someone else's maybe and someone else may
have mine, or maybe.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
The orders wrong. Can you check the order? So the
guy behind the counter was instantly not happy. He was look,
he was busy. They were busy, but there were two
baristas there.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
He was not like you walked up and went idiot.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
No, of course not. I did it very respectful, and
I said, look, I think someone's made a mistake. So
he goes through the little slips with the orders, and
sure enough it just says it says cappuccino, one sugar.
So she'd gotten the order wrong, which I would never
say the wrong way. So he was not happy. So
he then turned around and said, did you get this
order wrong? The girl at the counter goes, no, he
didn't say it. So all of a sudden, what happened

(19:55):
to the customers? Always right? Of course I said it
right anyway, So she got it wrong. So he he said,
he's going to make up another one. Five minutes back
at the table past table thirty four. No no coffee.
So I'll go in and ask the questions. And by this stage.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Milking the almonds.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
At this stage, so we're milking the almonds. They were
activating the almonds. So by this stage, my bestie hates
my guts, right, you could tell, and he goes, I'll
have to make it and make you up a new one.
I thought, I'm sure that's what he said before. I said,
Oh yeah, people make mistage. It's okay.

Speaker 11 (20:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I was being chilled. So I go back and I
still didn't have my coffee. I reckon. I rode another
three or four minutes, and Lori goes, you might have
to go looking for it. So I go looking for it,
and in the way I've walked into the cafe through
one door.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
He's think I'd been trusting this coffee because.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I said, Lauria said, do you reckon? He's spitting in it, right,
And Lorry goes. Larry goes, go and check one more time.
So I go in one door. He's obviously come out
the other door, and he got to the table and
Laurie said, he sounded like this one almond cappuccino, like
in stern voice, with one sugar. It's like really determined
to make that, make these presents. Felt. I wasn't there,

(20:58):
so I don't mean what.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Happened to just go not to the counter and going
whoopsie the wrong one, and the person making them going, oh, sorry, dude,
I'll get you another one.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
But this whole you know, turning it onto.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
The server might that's that's well, I don't know what's
happened to sort of cafe ed a cursion and you know.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
That we think about It's not a really big deal.
She made a mistake, you know. Of course I'm not
going to give the wrong order the same or too scared.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
To drink that coffee by that stage.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
So I'm thinking, I wonder what's wrong with the coffee,
you know what I mean? So I opened up the
lid and sure enough he's got the last laugh there's
no chocolate dust in it. It's say, and I went,
you know what, there's no chocolate powder on it. Well
you didn't ask for Well are you doing when it's
a capcina? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:46):
But did you say one almond cap with one sugar
and chocolate powder.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
I didn't say that, but maybe I need to. But
when it's a he said the last. But there was
a cute moment at this cafe that was much better
than something as frivolous as the coffee. There was a
family there, obviously going out for the last a school holidays.
It's a mum and a dad and two kids who
were quite They see my sweet kids have probably eight
or nine, and you can hear a few of things
they're saying. And as they wrapped up their their coffee

(22:12):
and cake date or their hot chocolate, dad said, okay, kids,
that was TikTok terrific. Let's go home. And I went, that's.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Dad, this is why I don't leave the house.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
That's dad thinking that's a cool thing to say to
the kids. And I went, that's the most Clark Griswold
thing National Lampoons thing I've heard in real life for
a long long time.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
TikTok Terrific nine an event at the Asta Theater which
certainly has tweaked my interest, and I'm not the only one.
It's called The Psychology of Serial Killers. Tickets for the
show are available through ticketech. It is hosted by a
renowned forensic psychologist whose name is doctor Rachel Tolds, and

(22:54):
she joins us now, Hello.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Rachel, Hello, Hi, thank you for having me.

Speaker 11 (22:58):
This is such a pleasure.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
It is a pleasure to have you, not least because
inquiring minds want to know what is it?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
About me and so many like me that finds this.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
You know, we can't deny it entertainment in serial killer stories.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
You know, I always say, first of all, true crime
for women at this point is equitable to pornography for men.
It really is. It's like it's our version, you know men.
Men love to talk about sex. Women love to talk
about murder. And that's because women spend you know, men
spend most of their lives scanning for sexual conquests. Us
women spend most of our lives scanning to avoid getting murdered.

(23:38):
And it's just a fact. You know, A man's biggest
fear when he goes on his first online date is
that she's not going to look like her pictures. A
woman's biggest fear she's gonna get killed. So these are
just things to you know. It's I think it's partly
that it's like true crime is like the DIY survival
guide for women. We're like, Okay, if we can figure
out just as many scenarios it could happen to us,
will be that much safer. And I think that is

(24:00):
part of it. But also I think that there's something
very real about true crime in a way that and
I think men are typically lean more towards fantasy. Like
when I talk to men in my family, I'll say,
why don't you like true crime? And they'll say, it's
too close, it's too close. We prefer like the fun stuff.
We like the uplifting stuff. Yeah, whereas women, I know this.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Is I want to know is I've never but that
is a really interesting you know take. I don't think
men fully appreciate the concept of walking across a car
park with.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Their car key sticking out between their fingers. And for wimen,
that's just what we do.

Speaker 11 (24:37):
It's what was from the moment we come out of
the wound when we can feel the male gaze. You know,
it's really sad, but it's very true. And little girls,
even at a very young agel like already consents like ooh,
and kids in general, because you learn about the death
is a thing at a very early age. And when
you're around five years old, you're like, wait a minute,
so you're going to die, yeah, but not for a
really long time. Wait a minute, so I'm going to die, yeah,

(24:59):
but not for long time. And you're sitting there as
a child having a process. So you knew this. You
had me which technically makes you my killer, because you
you know, it's like this weird thing. So all kids
know that, like death could happen, and depending on how
sensitive you are as a kid, you might become fixated
on it, which is you know what happens to some
of us who go into the field.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's fascinating. Walking down through some bushland down
south of the river the other day and I said
to Laurie, there's no way that I would let you walk,
and she wouldn't do it any here, walk through this
bushland next to this lake with that maybe at any
stage to die. And that's sad in itself, isn't it right?

Speaker 11 (25:36):
That's right, that's right. And so it is just a
it's just a fact. And so but it's at least
I think it's nice that people are men are starting
to understand because you really don't know what it is
like to have to always be looking over your shoulders
at all times. The only people in the US, certainly
who actually have a similar sense of paranoia because it

(25:57):
are black males. And what we certain tests that are
like we have a very famous personality test that we
have to actually score black men five points lower on
the paranoia scale because of just the history of this
country and the whey cops still treat black men and
so it's just but it really goes to show that
it's a real feeling. And so I always, you know, say, well,

(26:20):
black men are the closest understanding women when it comes
to having to look around, like am I going to
be killed because of the way I look?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Now this show is about serial killers.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Well, I think it's safe to say it is a
lot harder to be a serial killer in this day
and age, with the you know, the technology that police have.
So do you think there are less people less serial
killers out there just because they get caught early? They
are sort of there a white off murderer, whereas they

(26:50):
could have been a serial killer.

Speaker 11 (26:53):
Yeah, you know, I think, well, the golden era of
serial killing was seventies. The peak was nineteen eighty one,
and after that we saw pretty significant drop. DNA stuff
started coming out in the later eighties nineteen eighties, and
so that's when certain serial killers just stopped because they knew,
Like I think Dennis Raider BTK was one who you know,

(27:17):
suddenly became aware like a lot of them were like, oh,
you know this is, So that's part of it.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
Now.

Speaker 11 (27:23):
I think that there are a lot of things that
happened that would explain the big decrease. I think the
Internet is a big part as well, because you know,
take somebody like Jeffrey Dahmer. This is a guy who
was isolated in Bath Ohio. He was dealing with the
fact that he was, you know, gay in the nineteen
seventies in Bath Ohio, which is not the friendliest place

(27:44):
at that you know, time to be gay. If he
had the Internet in his fingertips and he had, you know,
fetishes of just being with the man who was basically
a sub in an unconscious position, he would have been
able to find a group of people that would have
been able to, you know, allow him to indulge in
his fantasy. And he felt so alone. So arguably, if

(28:05):
Jeffrey Dahmer was alive today, he probably wouldn't be a
serial killer. I know that's wild to say, but I
really because he had a lot of different things. I
get really deep into Jeffrey Dahmer during the show. So
there's that element, but there are other elements too. It
is harder to your question. It's harder because obviously surveillance.
We you know, DNA testing and you know cell phone
data and so. But there are I mean Israel Keys

(28:29):
is I don't know if you've heard of Israel Keys,
but he's one that we call the most meticulous because
he really was smart about it. And I kind of
I always have a difficult time explaining, uh, because I
don't want to give anyone, you know, yips, I don't.
That's where it gets tricky. But it's like, yeah, Israel Keys,
if you can get away, he has, he has. He

(28:50):
had the right Unfortunately, he had the right system that
if you were really wanting to get away with it,
he had, you know, a lot of patience.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
Not usually stupid they unfortunately, they're usually quite smarted.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
Have you ever because people will get the opportunity to
ask questions at your shows if you've been disturbed by
something that someone yeah.

Speaker 11 (29:13):
Yeah, okay. Well, I just want to comment on the
fact that a lot of people believe that serial killers
are these evil geniuses, but in actuality, the average serial
killer IQ is around ninety ninety one, you know, so
it's not that high. So we've got the ones like
Ted Bundy, like Jeffrey dahmerd those are high IQs. But yeah,
for the most part, they're they're not. They just a
lot of them go after sex workers and other sex

(29:35):
workers less dead, so people don't really care. They don't
tend to make the news. Women of color, things like that,
they just unfortunately don't make the news. But yeah, I
do get a lot of interesting questions sometimes, Like I
got one question once where someone was like, why haven't
I gotten caught yet? Oh, because they they send them in,

(29:56):
They don't, you don't they don't have a microphone where
they ask. Okay, actually they said they can send them
in anonymously, and so things like that, and and you know,
so sometimes like are you kind of are you joking
or you know?

Speaker 6 (30:08):
And you don't know.

Speaker 11 (30:09):
And so one of the questions is what are the
chances that a serial killer might be in the audience tonight?
And I point out the fact that if there was
a serial killer in the area, I'd say that if
they were to go to a show, this would probably
be the one to go to, because I believe it
or not, serial killers themselves have no idea why they kill.
They just know they have the urge. But they're just
as curious as we are. About why they do it?

Speaker 3 (30:30):
All right, well, doctor Tooles could definitely talk to you. Yeah,
I have to.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Write until my twenty nine, but you are at the
Estro on my twenty nine, the Psychology of Serial Killers.
Tickets are available through ticket Tek. Thank you so much
for joining us this morning.

Speaker 11 (30:45):
Thanks, thank you so much for having me and I
look forward to seeing you all in Perth.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Thank you the Sure Report.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
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Speaker 4 (30:57):
The inductees to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
twenty twenty five. I've have been revealed Cindy lauper Is
in Outcast and Soundgarden have made the cut. Oasis and
Joy Division did not. Pretty disappointed. Joy Division didn't make it.
Mariah Krey didn't make the cut this year either. The
others that have made it this year are The White Stripes,
Bad Company, Chubby Checker, Joe Cocker and Warren Zevon. Speaking

(31:21):
of Oasis, they might have missed the Hall of Fame cut,
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(31:47):
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which is coming out on.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
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Speaker 4 (31:52):
I love a good sports documentary, even I'm not really
particularly in the sports. The documentary gives insight into the
life of Kimmi Anatanelli, who look about nine as he
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Speaker 1 (32:12):
I just I think of the word joyous for Saturday
Night at this show, Sister Acting Musical on out Crown
Theater until May twenty five. Tickets available through ticket Master.
Do not miss out starring well a great cast but
the one and only Roonda Birchmore. Oh I am good morning,
Welcome Rondo.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
Oh I look so wonderful to be back here in
person morning.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Now, this is you play system Mary Lazarus, Yes, Lazarus
by name by nature.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
Yeah, well this character is something very different to what
I've ever ever played, you know, for me for a start,
to be a nun as Clay would not you would know.
It's usually the sequence in the bling and the leg
but there's not a bit of that. So and Lazarus
is in charge of the choir, the very bad choir,

(33:04):
and she's it's it's it's you saw it. It's like
me if I had a few people back to my
apartment after too many drinks and I went wild. It's
this crazy nun that breaks loose. She starts the strict
strictest nune, but then she lets loose.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
And a bit of funky stuff, bit of wrapping up.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
A bit of wrapping. He would have thought WRONGDA would
have closed. It's an album title, honey, rap.

Speaker 8 (33:38):
I've ever had was a KFC, you know. And then
and then I come out and do this full, full
on wrap.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
This is your first time in a habit though I
thought that before.

Speaker 8 (33:51):
No, you're definitely my first.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Okay, all right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 8 (33:57):
Wanted to audition many years ago for the sound of music,
but it never never got that.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
I know, the first time.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
This is this may sound weird. I said it to
Lisa yesterday. I said, I was watching Casey Donovan up
there and I was feeling proud. And now I don't
know who personally I've interviewed her a couple of times,
but she's come. She's incredible, and she was great from
the start. She just owns it.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Doesn't it such a force vocally?

Speaker 8 (34:23):
I don't think there's better on stage to sing, you know,
this kind of stuff, and as an actor, comedian, And.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
She's a really good girl too.

Speaker 8 (34:32):
And you know, I guess we've been going for nine
months now, and there's a wonderful bond in this, in
this company of I mean it's called sister act. There's
obviously blokes in there too, but the sisterhood in this
you know the message and I think we're all there's
so many diverse types and shapes and sizes and voices

(34:55):
and it's just a wonderful, a wonderful combination.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Well we asked for because we've got you, We've got
Casey And I'm a lifelong Genevieve lemon Fowl. I mean,
the trifecta of you know, perfection up there.

Speaker 8 (35:07):
Well, she's a great woman. We've become besties over there.

Speaker 11 (35:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:11):
I'd seen Genevieve on things like Prisoner and watched her
in other musicals, but we have bonded. She's so funny
and the two of us are like, I think we
need our own sitcom. It's quite Oh yeah, yeah, she
has no sense of direction. I mean it in terms

(35:32):
of we get lost all the time and just laugh
ourselves out of situations.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Good woman. She is a wonderful mother, superior too. So
you you alos go to rot Nest? Was it yesterday?

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (35:43):
We have excuse me, one day off and we decided
it was the weather was beautiful, got on that fairy
and did the old hop on hop off. Yeah, Genevieve
did go swimming. That was quite brave. Yes, dinner undies,
but that was I mean it was, it was. It

(36:05):
was really really lovely. But I had the ziplock bag
after all the clothes were we I had. I gave
him a ziplock I mean it was. It was just
a really beautiful day and even though it was just today,
it felt like we had the nicest break.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
Yeah. Water over there is crystal.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
The color that you can't sort of recreate that turquoise
color of the water around Rotnest.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
It's magnific, exquisite.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
Yeah, you have been in some amazing shows. To someone
with your CV your resume, do.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
You still have to audition. Yeah, depending depending on you know,
if there's internationals involved and things like that. I remember
way back I was in the original original Mama Mia
back in two thousands, and even though I'd done Zilian
shows here and overseas, I had to audit and eight

(37:01):
times for that. And the last two auditions Benny and
Beyorn from Abba, which was pretty intimidating EBB forever, and
they had the final say so.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yeah, there's hills. When you said that, they.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Didn't look the same as they did. It's just like
these Binky and Bonkie. They both had beads there and
they were I don't think they got my sense of humor,
but you know. And then they said, come on and
sing Dancing Queen, which is the hardest. Everyone sings it,
but to sing it because the ranges of how those

(37:39):
girls and Yetta and Freda used to their voices, just
one would do the low and then then magically it
would sound like the same voice going to the top.
So it's a very rangy song. And to do it solo.
And I said, what were you want when you wrote this?
For anyway?

Speaker 3 (37:56):
I got the job. So, but's answer to your question.

Speaker 8 (38:01):
There are some shows and especially now where the franchises,
you know, someone may own it in New York or
West they need to have approval apart from the Australian team.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yeah, I can tell you having watching you on Saturday
really closely. We have worked together and many times, but
watching you up there, you just having fun and that's
got to be the key, right Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
I think.

Speaker 8 (38:26):
I think when you're in a show that you're doing
eight shows a week, you've got to find something kind
of not to amuse you, but something magical every day
to get on there, to bring energy and just I
think that's the thing. It's a wonderful you know, unit
of girls and we just work together and that to

(38:46):
make that whole thing joyce and to make it fun
and to make it fresh.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I think that's the key.

Speaker 8 (38:52):
Because people are not stupid sitting in the audience. If
you're going on I'm having a really average today and
I don't want.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
To be here.

Speaker 8 (38:59):
They know that and so we have to. It's it's
an energized thing that we kind of go, Okay, we've
got a couple of hours to do that. Just let's
do our job.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Well, it sounds like it's contagious once you get going
with the three of you and the rest of the
ensemble cast, of course, and we didn't even mention the
fact that all the songs are.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Fresh for this show which we put together.

Speaker 8 (39:20):
And you know, we've had a little bit of criticism
that people going, oh, why aren't they the in the movies?
But the score here is phenomenal and the lyrics that
have chosen Alan Menkin, who wrote things like Aladdin and
The Little Mermaid, although it is a brilliant score to sing,
and it's just been thought out so carefully and cleverly, especially.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
My rap phenomenal hip.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
Hoping doll sister.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
But I'm hard.

Speaker 8 (39:52):
It's a blisters all. Hang on to your rosary. I mean,
it's just, yeah, it doesn't work out. I've got another
Sugarhill game in my Nun's habit, very yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
And people will be in for a surprise because the
colors on the stage, of the lighting and all the
rest of it. But the sequence finale is phenomenal to
look at as.

Speaker 8 (40:17):
Well as yeah yeah, because for me it is the
most comfortable I've ever been in this nun's habit. I mean,
you can have your full course dinner under that and
your sensible shoe silly, you know, like before, I'm usually caught.
I think the last time I was here, I was
doing Cabaret to Peru, which was in a course and

(40:38):
with these feathers and this is like this, you know,
I could just go out and put your sensible undis
on and where you go.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Well, do not miss Sister Act the musical with all
Ronda Onder. It's on until May twenty five and then
it must go. So tickets are about through Ticketmaster. Lovely
to have you joined us this morning.

Speaker 8 (41:04):
Thank you for having me get along. And I'm so
glad you saw it.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
We've just got back from holiday, so.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's one of those shows that is a
really feel good isn't it. Absolutely yeah, you'll leave going
Oh that was great.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
It's a perfect way to wrap it the holiday. So
thanks you.

Speaker 8 (41:21):
Absolute pleasure.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Federal election wickets almost over.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Yeah, we're almost up to the blackout. Yes, So that's
where we don't have to hear anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I don't have to hear any of the ads and
the spiels. Yeah yeah, yeah. And some of the stories
now coming out. Such a big deal was made about
one of the leaders not knowing how much eggs were yesterday,
like you could say, oh, he's not on the ground.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
I don't think either of them knew how much eggs
were based on their answers, because that's not what I've
paid the last time I got eggs.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
It was more than both of them said. But it
was like playing the price is right.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
But also yeah, it was the same thing. But also
i'd probably be worried about leaders on the hustings. Knowing
how much everything was at the supermarket means it not
enough yet running the country. I don't know what all
those years ago, he said, Doctor Houston was different because
he didn't know how to work out the GST. That
was probably a little that.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Was a problem.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
That's a little bit problem. Don't know if he's ever
going to be PM, but that did cost him a
lot of I would imagine that yesterday when I saw
so much attention on the egg prices, like, move on.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
I love that one night. I love to roll out
that yeah you know every man story, Yeah you.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Don't what you don't know what's going on the ground
in the shops.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
And I said, had some good news story just as
just a really good news story because we talk about
food waste and what a terrible thing. It is, especially
when there is a need for food, you know, just
like the two things just don't correlate. There's been so
many stupid rules over the years about you know, you
have to throw it in the bin instead of giving

(42:54):
it to someone who probably wouldn't be too fussy at
the time.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Well, there's a new app.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
It's it's been in Melbourne and Sydney since August last year,
and today it launches officially in Perth. It's called Too
Good to Go. It's a food destined for the bin
will instead be sold as heavily discounted quote unquote surprise
bags to customers keen for a bargain via the new app,

(43:21):
Too Good to Go, which as I said, officially launches
here today.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
It was started a decade.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Ago in Copenhagen by a group of young entrepreneurs looking
for a solution to the massive amount of food wastage
at Danish buffet restaurants. Too Good to Go has since
spread to nineteen countries, where the third Australian city, as
I said.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
To do it.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
It boasts one hundred million users and one hundred and
seventy five thousand business partners across the Globe.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
In the past nine years.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
The company claims to have saved two hundred million meals
worldwide by enabling food businesses to sell surplus stock for
around a third of the price.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
So One of the first.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
Businesses to sign on here is Perth's Crumbs Petisserie, which
has stores in Applecross and Osborne Park. Julia Burry is
the owner. She trained at Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck Well
Thank You very Much, the Michelin starred restaurant in the UK,
and she is familiar with Too Good to Go because
they had it there, she said. Throwing out unsold pastries

(44:23):
leaves her devastating, of course, because you know, anything that
reduces and anything that reduces food waste is welcome.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Most people that.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
Work in food will tell you how absolutely devastating it
is to see it just go to.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Waste so much of it.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
So Crumbs Potisserie is selling a surprise bag of sweet
and savory pastries that would usually go for thirty.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Dollars for ten dollars.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
Other local businesses to sign up with Too Good to
Go include Rolled Jamaica, Blue muff and Break Sushi Sushi
and Adore Bakery. Australians waste more than seven point six
million tons of food every year. That's enough to fill
up to stadium ten times over. How's this for a fact?

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Too good to go?

Speaker 4 (45:03):
As Australian director just Red Field reckons, forty percent of
all food produced worldwide is wasted forty percent? Isn't that
just a disturbing isn't that a horrendous statistic? On top
of the obvious benefits, the company has around fifteen hundred

(45:24):
employees worldwide, including a small team in Australia that's set
to grow with the addition of a Perth office. So welcome,
Too good to go, brilliant. What is not to love
about this and.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Multiple benefits are jobs, yes, reducing wasted some cheaper food
in tough economic times, and good news story. It is sensational.
I love that and we always as a kid we
love mystery bags and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
Well, I love a mystery bag from someone who traded
with Bluement Thorpe.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Absolutely crazy and Lisa
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