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October 1, 2024 15 mins

Today Clairsy & Lisa were on the casting couch for How To Make It In WA as they spoke to one of Australia’s leading casting directors, Annie Murtagh-Monks. She told us about finding actors who have the 'It' factor, what it is she’s looking for, and her tips on how to get a role as an extra in a film or TV series.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cleary and Lisa's how it's a may gest in w
A she bring this.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Son, I'll make you a start.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Thank you, Brian, good on you, Brian, Brian Brown. Not
too many better. Hey, No'm from Australia. Our guest today
is Annie murder Minkes. I have known any, known any
for a long time. Casting director of acting coach. Has
worked on so many projects based here in the West
and filmed here, including rabbit Proofence, Japanese Story, Last Train
to Free Go and Drift.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
And we're very proud of the actors.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
A lot of the stars who have become international stars
from the West, but she's been pivotal in their careers.
He Fledger, Melissa George, Eila Fisherma Booth and Jay Cotney
just some of those. And Johnny us today casting director
acting Coach, Annie murder Minkes Andie welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Oh thank you so Hi Hi Claresie, Hi Lisa, So
talk to you lovely to have you joined us on this.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
What tell us?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
First of all, Annie, let's start at the beginning. What
exactly is a casting director and how did you get
into it?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Great question actually because a lot of people get confumed. Yes,
so a casting director is someone who is hired by
a production either a film production company or television company
to help them find the best possible actors for a production.
So so I work on behalf of the production company.

(01:17):
An actor's agent works on behalf of the actors and
they and they represent the actors. And so I deal
with all the different agents.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Dodger working through your wish you can get the movie, indible, TV,
whatever it will be.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
It's always casting by committee these days. So everybody, you know,
the producer, the director, the investors in the film or
the television show. So it could be Netflix or STAND
or the ABC or you know one of the networks.
Everyone tends to have a bit of a say with

(01:59):
the lead roles in in something.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I bet.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yeah. So it's an interesting job and it can be
very time intensive.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Put it that way, I would imagine so Anie, when
you're trying to deal with so many cooks, I'm trying
to come up with the right format.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, yeah, what about hopefully it works?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, it's those you have to deal with the actors
or is it their agents that approach you and go,
But mine's going to be perfect for that role. You
know that all be onto you.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, I suppose. Look, I used to be an actor
years ago and I trained in that area, so I
know what it was like for them on that side,
and hopefully I can potentially help them to give their
best performances when it's when it comes time to do
an audition or a callback.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
And can I say a bloody good actor too, because
you fooled us one day and I did it was
very curious and did an acting course Sunday your tutelage
and watched you in another actor completely baffle us with
a performance for a guy who reckon he rented the
same room.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I've forgotten about it.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Well, then to showed your skill, and you can't do
what you do, especially as an acting coach, without having
those skills.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, oh that's I'm very glad to hear that it
was effective.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And an what a lot of people, you know, they
talk about the factor? What is the factor?

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Look? I was reading something last night and it said
it only takes fifteen years to become an overnight success.
And I think it's so true because you've got to
You can have a certain quality that the screen loves,
but you have to learn how to use that and

(03:43):
be able to act effectively and bring a character to life.
And most people don't get cast in lead roles having
had no training or experience. So if you're interested in
becoming a skilled actor, you've really got to put in
the hard yards. You've got to do some training, and

(04:05):
various people, like for instance, Heath Ledger, they had their
own acting coaches in LA and he would have an
acting coach to assist him with every single audition and
every role. He referred to him as a voice coach,
but he was really also his acting coach as well.
And most actors spend a lot of time developing their skills.

(04:30):
But I think for a lot of your listeners, what's
exciting with the new per Film studio is that there's
potentially going to be a lot small productions filming in WA.
I mean, we could have big Hollywood productions because they've
got two twenty five thousand feet soundstages they're building. They
can be split into four smaller ones. There'll be probably

(04:52):
going to be quite a few more productions, and so
a lot of people might be interested in just having
the fun experience of bit an extra.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes, this is why we're talking about this in a
bit more depth. Any because of the Gangbusters. That way
has gone recently in terms of being a location for
making staff. You know, we've had movies, We've had The
Twelve up in York, We've had Runt in York, just
to name a few, and now we've got the Malaga
Studios coming.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
What would be your top couple of tips to people.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
You know, just for the ordinary of you know, the
not the people trying out for major roles.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
They already know what they're.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Doing, but those of us just want to get involved
in this industry as an extra or whatever. How do
people go about it? How do they put themselves in
the right place at the right time.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
A great question. And by the way, just before I
answer that, I just want to give a plug because
I was casting director on Runs and it's so close
to the third biggest opening weekend this year, so good,
it's past the one million total and it was all
filmed in Wa and all filmed in Perth and York,

(06:05):
and I'm so excited that a lovely family film who
has come.

Speaker 4 (06:10):
From Wa like that.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yes, So advice if you want to do extra work,
I would suggest that a good way is to join
an agency who represent extras. So there are several in Perth.
Some of those are film Bites. Another one is called Padua,
Another one is Artist Artist Management Australia. Another one is

(06:35):
called now Actors Now. Both those last two also represent actors,
but they do have extras on their books as well.
There are other actors agents as well. There's several of those,
but they're more for people who have trained and have experience,

(06:56):
but also for extras. There are quite a lot of
face book groups in Perth. Some of them are called
Perth Actors, some are called Actors in Perth, and many
times there are student filmmakers who post notices asking for
volunteers for their student films, and also when people are

(07:22):
casting productions and they need extras, like on films like
Rump or twelve. The third series of the Twelve is
filming right at the moment in Perth as well, so
often they will post if they're searching for extras. A
colleague of mine, Megan Carpenter, she's a casting director in

(07:46):
Perth and she specializes in extras and in television commercials
as well. So I would suggest that exploring any of
those would be a good way of maybe joining one
of the agents and they're going to be able to
let you know when there are jobs, and being an
extra can be a lot of fun because you'll get

(08:07):
paid and get to you get to observe what's going on.
You just need to be prepared that there's a lot
of hurry up.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
And wait, yeah you want to.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
It's funny you say that because when they made the
boxing movie two Fis One Heart in austraight about fifteen,
about fifteen years ago, Ray Fasio film. I've had a
lot of friends who were extras in that and for
the boxing scenes, they had to keep moving around to
make it look like it was a full study in
the people, but it was. It was a whole day.
Is it going to be patient? But you learned so
much from behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, yeah, and it's fascinating to watch to see how
they do it and how the actors get directed. But yeah,
you do need to be prepared, so you need to
take along a book with you and a jumper in
case it gets cold. But you get fed and paid,
so it can be something to do.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's pretty exciting.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I remember a movie that came out in nineteen eighty
called Harlequin. I don't know if anyone remembers this movie,
and it was horrible, scary, scary one. It was the
first movie ever to be made because it was made
with the WA Film Corporation, and it was made in Wa,
but it was set in the States, and they tried

(09:18):
to make out that it was filmed in the States,
but it was made here. And I remember watching and
there were scenes on the river sort of around Mosman Parkway,
and I was my thirteen year old self or whatever
was so excited that.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
It was on the screen.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
So to see it come to this extent where we're
making these you know, we've got huge stars coming to
town to make these movies and quality television like the
twelve being made right on our doorstep. It must be
you must what you've seen in your time, and you
must be so excited by the developments.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I am. And look, we've known for years that Wa
has the most beautiful, unique light. I know you don't
have it there today at the moment.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
We always talking about the light.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
We have nine months of almost guaranteed perfect filming weather,
you know, because our climate really I suppose it's quite
similar to Los Angeles in that way, but we have
ideal conditions for filming But the challenge I think is
up until now is we've never had a film studio,
and all the other capital cities except for Darwin, I

(10:38):
think all of them and Tasmania Hober that all of
the others have got film studios, some more than one,
and so we've been missing out for years. And I've
got to tell you, we were so stoked that David Templeman,
our arts Minister, managed to push for this and has
managed to make it a reality. And now we're devastated
because he's stepping down.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
He has his eye on signing up though to he.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
Was to be an extra all right to him yesterday.
You're excited about that.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
So right about the light, I remember when they made
Cloud Street, the director was absolutely adamant that it be
made here because he said, you cannot create that light
anywhere else, and it was, you know, was captured in
Cloud Street. Can you tell us anything about any of
the things you've been involved with just recently or are

(11:32):
involved with as we speak.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Runt is what I just the latest film that I
worked on, and I'm just so excited that it's come out.
And if if audiences haven't gone to see it, I
really recommend it for their families, for any age. Really.
It's the adaptation of Craig Sylvie's novel Yep. I know
it's playing currently at Luna Leadable and I think most

(11:57):
other cinemas yes as well. And it's a really beautiful
film with amazing classic Australian actors in it as well.
So that's that's a perfect one I would recommend.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Absolutely, we're big Craig Silver fans, so we're already gunning
for Honeybee to be one of the next things.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
A couple of weeks ago, Yeah we made Yeah, we
could let you go. I just want to raise the word.
I want to bring up the word charisma. Now you
talked about acting skill. You have to have skill to
make it. But I look at someone them multiple generations
of actors, and you look at someone like Sam Neil
looking so good in his seventies, and then Lee Tiger,
Hellie from Frio, the Young Fella, and then everyone in between.
Sometimes they just walk in for an auditional walk in

(12:39):
and you just go they've got it.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Or do you have to see the depth of the
skill first.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Look. I certainly think the camera does love some people,
and that's to do.

Speaker 4 (12:49):
With one clue.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, they're photogenicity. I made that word up. That's really
to do.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
With their bone struck.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
So there I color their their skin tone, the quality
of their voice, all of those things. Certainly, if they're
not difficult to look at or look at, then we
take notice. And that's across the board. And they don't
have to be beautiful either. It can be something that
knows you through them and their eyes and what they

(13:25):
embody when they bring you they come on screen. But
that won't do it. Only otherwise models would be playing
the leads everything.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, well has got that photogenicity in.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Spain, and then you're going to then who's walked under
the set and become become a quality actress as well, exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
And Lee we cast I cast him in The Heights,
which is the ac episode in his first adult role,
and it was just beautiful to really see him blossom.
And he did in Boys Follows Universal.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Extraordinary, extraordinary. Indeed, by the way I loved The Heights.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
I would, if you know, I would have no problem
with the making another series, But I don't think there's
going to be anymore now.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
I think we wanted it.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We wanted it for COVID here. Yes, funding cuts to
the ABC here.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yeah, we love doing that.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It was and that was all filmed in Perth.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, well yeah absolutely cod we drive past the building,
you know to get into work.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Annie, Thanks for what you do, keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
It's all fantastic, and thank you so much for joining
us today with all that great advice about where people
will make sure they're in the right place to all
to happen, because it's exciting time play right time.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
You never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It is, it is, and let's hope our industry continues
to keep growing here.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
Oh, I think it's going to any good again. Thanks Annie.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yes see you lay.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Uh some of these guests and we can hear the
excitement about this new studio set up in my life.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's very very cool.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
So philm bits Padoi Artists Management Australia. Good good advice.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
There, and like you said, lest twenty twenty six will
be here like that, yeah, where production will start and
let's hope.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
We can be like New Yorkers by the end of
this decade.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
We all have appeared in some sort of something you
know as an extra one shots in the Red Jumper
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