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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It's the Happy Families podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just
once answers now.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
At the moment. For some people, depending on where you live,
you might be hearing an ad on the podcast where
I sing it's the most wonderful time of the year.
Then I stop singing so that you don't have to
listen to my singing, because nobody really should be forced
to endure that. But Kylie, if you were to describe
how our December has been going so far, would you
think that is an appropriate description or would you have
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another one or two words to use instead?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I think I'm using fully stuffed right now.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Fully stuffed, as it's been a fully stuffed week, or
do you mean like crammed to fall so crammed?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm thinking of something said, but you can think of
anything right now?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Haw's life fully stuffed. It's just stuffed. If our kids
said that, would we be okay with that? Would we
look at them and say, don't talk like that?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't think so right now.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
So this might be tricky. Today on the podcast, we're
reflecting on the week that was, as we do every Friday.
It's called I'll do better tomorrow. How can we focus
on being great parents when we are racing towards Christmas
and the end of twenty twenty four faster than I
have words for. I mean, it is just so full
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on what can we do to be better parents? How
can we make sure that we're present and involved in
our kids' lives in meaningful and positive and helpful ways? Kylie,
what's your I'll do better tomorrow this week?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So I'm not gonna lie. I am feeling more stretched
than I have in a long.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Time, depleted, exhausted, and context. You didn't want to record
the podcast today because you don't have time. There is
so much going on.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
But I've been reflecting on the year that we've had
and the beautiful gift that you gave me last year
of fourteen guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Getaways get aways, whether.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It was a weekend or a week away with the
kids or whatever, there was fourteen gatherings that we were
able to enjoy, and for me, so much of that
was tied up in the recognition that our lives are busy.
You travel a lot, and knowing that there was something
to look forward to each month really made a huge
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difference in my capacity to keep carrying the load.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, and for context in case people are sort of thinking, oh,
my goodness, who has fourteen holidays in a year. Some
of these were just overnighters, some of them were using points,
We were staying places for free, like with family.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
A couple of times, well, let's be real, most of
them were actually work holidays. A couple of them will
work holidays with my help, and I came with you.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
You were coming with me, and so we just did
that as well. And yeah, we had a couple of
really nice holidays as well, which was just a delight.
But I think I know where you're going with this.
You're going to say that it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It was a lot. It was a lot. And as
I have reflected on how I'm feeling right in this moment,
having only just come back from our final holiday of
the year, yep, and feeling just as exhausted as I
did before, maybe even more exhausted, if I'm being completely.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Honest, than before we left.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Then before we left, it has occurred to me that
it's actually not about the holidays where we think we're
going away to get rejuvenated and you know, kind of
have some relaxing time and all of that. And while
that does play a part. The reality is that we
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come back to the same stuff, and in some cases
it actually exacerbates the things that we're coming back to
because we've now just lost a whole heap of time
that we would have been able to utilize to put
towards managing or you know, working through whatever challenges or
things that we have in front of us. So I hate,
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I actually really hate the fact that I'm sitting here
in this space right now feeling so loaded up. So
Stuff's the word I've got. It's probably not the best
word to use, but I just I feel like my
life is just so stuffed and crammed full at the
moment that it's really hard to even take a breath,
let alone enjoy the space that we have. And I'm
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dreading the fact that come Christmas Day, I'm not even
going to want to get out of bed because there's
just been so much in the lead up. So I'm
really wanting to work through that and look at next
year and how we change things. And as I've been
kind of pondering about all of that, the acknowledgment is
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it's not really about the holidays, It's about actually being
intentional about what I put in to my life in
the first place. We're here at the end of the year.
I've taken on a lot with homeschooling this year and
the other commitments that we've already had before we had that,
and so what does next year look like? So I
don't find myself in December feeling completely just spent.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah. A couple of years ago I read a book
by an academic called Lighty Klots id why his name
Lighty klots from the Netherlands. The book was called subtract
It was a bit too academic. It wasn't what I
would consider to be a great book. However, the book
had an overarching theme that really applies to what you're
describing right now, and that is that whenever we try
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to improve things, we generally are additive. We're putting more
stuff in, and when there's too much stuff, sometimes it's
better to start subtracting. And what I'm hearing you say
is to do better. Maybe we need to do less,
but to do it much more. Well did I say
that right? No, you did it, But you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah, I think that as I'm reflecting on our year,
I just there are definitely there are definitely areas that
we can subtract, and so that's my big life lesson.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So can we start subtracting from tomorrow from today? Can
we actually or do we have to get through the
next couple of weeks before we get to subtract, because
I like the idea of it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Unfortunately, I think we've just got to get through the
next few weeks. Okay, So I don't think there's a
lot we can subtract from the next few weeks.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
But I really I'm going to have a cranky and
stressed out Kylie for another week or two.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
I'm really looking on to it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Sleeping and on Christmas Day, we're not going to get
asleep in We're going to have our son in law
jump on our bed with our granddaughter on Christmas morning
and we're going to love that as well. One thing,
one thing that I can promise you is it next year,
we're not having a single holiday cost of living crisis.
And even though we did most of these things on
the cheap, we are we're not going to go away.
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It's just not happening. So you don't have to worry
about me cramming our calendar to forward.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Trips Okay, what life lessons have you learned?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Well, it's not this week, but you alluded in your
conversation about your odd be better tomorrow to our final
getaway of the year. You and I over a year
ago decided that I was going to have my first
ever legit fared income go away on a surfing trip
to a location and get the best waves of my
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life holiday. And we picked a bucket list location, a
place that I've always wanted to go, a place that
you and I have both actually wanted to go. And
you said, well, if it's a surfing holiday but it's
to that location, I'd like to come along as well.
So we booked for the two of us to go,
and I had a great time. I caught a whole
lot of great waves, but I had an experience there
that really bring. As soon as it happened, I thought,
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this is parenting, this is life, this is how we
do life. So I've been surfing since I was thirteen.
In all that time, You've never come to the beach
to watch me surf. You're generally not interested in watching
me in the waves.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's not high on my priority list.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
No, I guess if you're trying to reduce things from
your life. I had one more for a variety of reasons.
I've never seen myself surf, but I know that I'm
an intermediate surfer. I'm quite competent in the water. I'm
surfing big waves and that kind of thing, so I
know that I can surf pretty well. However, on this
surfing holiday, we were there with some friends. They took
some footage and I saw myself surfing for pretty much
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the first time in my life. And while I'm still
surfing competently, I'm not nearly as good as I thought
I was. In fact, after the first day of surfing
where you did get to watch me, and I said, hey,
I needed you get to see me surf. What was
the one word that you said when I asked what
you thought about my surfing?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I called you a gumby and you haven't let me
live it down.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You literally looked at me and said gumby. And it
shattered me. Not that you were judging me, because I
had already judged myself, and I felt like a gumby
watching myself. Now again, I feel like I need to
do some ego protection here because I'm that narcissistic that
I care what a bunch of strangers think about my
surfing ability, even though nobody's going to see me in
the water. I'm not a gumby and I am competent. However,
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I wasn't surfing at the level that I thought that
I surfed. Have I patched that up?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Enough does that I'll move on. Seeing the video and
seeing a couple of photos of myself surf gave me
a level of self awareness that I can't possibly have
without having that reflected back to me. And once I
got over myself and my sadness, I had a chat
with one of the guys that works at the resort
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and I said, if there was one thing that I
could do, just one thing that I could do that
would improve my surfing, what would it be? And he said,
I reckon, if you did this, it'd change everything. And
for the next two days I practiced it. And on
the final day of my surfing holiday, when I said, Hey,
did you see my surfing? What did you say?
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I couldn't believe how much you improved just in those
few days.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I looked like a pro. You looked like it, and
you were really complimentary. But I saw the photos on
the final day, and I looked like a completely different surfer.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So can you share what the advice was that he
gave you? What did he say that you needed to
work on?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
The advice was when I was doing my turns, he
just said I needed to move my shoulders and by
moving my shoulders my head, that was going to move
my hips and I was going to move my body
with a lot more power. I just didn't have enough
power in my turns. I'm still doing nice turns, but
much better turns if I really rotate my whole body
through the turn.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
So what I love about that was just the acknowledgment
that it requires a whole body movement for you to improve, right,
And I saw that the difference between you from day
one to day five was massive. Still gunny, but.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I BELI I've got to keep you humble, But the
humility of being willing to ask for advice is important.
There's a lesson there. Nevertheless, go on.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, so I don't know what your old did better
tomorrow is out of that. But for me, the acknowledgment
that if we want to be great as parents, if
we want to be fully present for our kids, it
requires our whole being oh we can't. We can't actually,
you know, go in there and do a half pie twist.
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What you actually need to do is use your whole
body to create that shift and change.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And the best parents are fully immersed. Yeah, yeah, they're
giving it. They're all. That's not what my take home
message is. But I really like it a lot, and
I think it's particularly pertinent over the next couple of
weeks as families are together, to really be present, to
really put your whole do the hokey pokey, you put
your whole self in and don't take your whole self out.
Just keep your whole self in. But no, to take
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our message for me with self awareness, we are so
unaware of what we're doing. We think we're doing it
one way. We think we look a certain way, we
think we sound a certain way. We think that we're
I'm talking to our children with kindness, and then you
see yourself and you go, holy cow, is that really me?
And we don't get the chance to see ourselves. It's
taken me. I don't want to do the maths, but
I'm I'm about to turn fifty next year and I
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started surfing when I was thirteen, so that's like thirty
six years of surfing, and for the first time, I
saw myself surf. And when I saw myself, I realized
that I was not where I thought that I actually
am was.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
So my question is, would you prefer to have not
seen yourself and then keep the illusion?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It was painful. Having the illusion shattered was painful, but
it also led to growth so quick. Example, a few
months ago, one of the kids was playing a video
that they'd been recording in the living room and in
another room, I'd been saying something to one of her sisters,
and over the video I heard my tone of voice
as I was speaking to her sister about that thing,
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and it shocked me. It was a moment of self awareness.
In the conversation with our daughter, I thought that I
was speaking to her quite plainly and simply and kindly
and gently and explaining what needed to happen. But I
heard the video context free, and as I heard the video,
I was like, oh, my goodness, I sound so stern.
I sound pretty hardcore here. And that was a moment
of self awareness for me, and I went, well, that hurts.
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I've just shouted the illusion. I need to speak more
gently than I think that I'm speaking because I don't
sound the way I think I sound, in the same
way that I don't surf the way I think I serf.
But hearing that allowed me to make the tweaks and
hopefully I'm a better parent as a result. That's the
conversation self awareness. Having someone somehow reflect it back to
us will hurt, I guarantee it, but it will also
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make us better if we're willing to make it. And
that's the whole purpose to day's podcast. It's a whole
purpose of the Happy Families podcast. I'll do better tomorrow,
So thanks so much for listening, and we really hope
that this weekend you can do better tomorrow. The Happy
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