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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, so you've heard of hard before. Today we are
going granny core.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Is it like glasses and gray hair melting sticks.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
No, it's like crochet and knitting and baking and living
life slow, having slow hobbies, slow activities because they soothe,
they anchor, and I think that they can empower a
generation in overdrive. Today and welcome to Happy Families Podcast
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We Adjusted and Kylie Carson. This is Australia's most downloaded
parenting podcast where we give you real parenting solutions every day.
Came across an article just recently and it's thought, this
is so good for the pod. We're always banging on
about how screens and social media are bad for kids,
and Kylie, today we have twenty screen free activities, twenty
ways to entertain the kids without using a device. That
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is what we are talking about today. So, Kylie, I mean,
you've been in so many of these conversations, But if
I was to say to you, why does this matter?
Like why are so many parents freaking out about screens?
What would your obvious or most immediate answers be.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
The way it affects our kids' mental health? Anxiety depression
is just through the roof and without even understanding numbers.
You just you can't talk to anyone without hearing the
concern in their voice with excess abuse of screens, trouble
with moods and emotions, and it's just it's really challenging.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yeah, so mental health is a really big one. And
the evidence, I mean, there's still some questions around it,
but it seems pretty pointed to me. And that is
that the more people are on screens, especially kids, but
even us as adults, the more miserable we are, the
more bored we are, the less curious we are, the
less active we are, the poorer the quality of our sleep.
We know that it does have a relationship to academic performance.
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So these are the reasons that this matters. I mean,
we could keep on going on, but I think that's
probably enough. Let's get into it twenty ways that you
can entertain the kids without screens. And I want to
start with the grandmar core or the granny core activities. Actually,
I did some googling around, looked on TikTok. I found
like fifty four thousand videos that are all about granny core.
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Most of them are about the way you did decor
in your house, Like it's a thing.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
You're talking about carpeted bathrooms, and really.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Curtus not used to have carpet in the bathroom, Like.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What about the doily dole that sits on top of
the toilet rolls? Oh and the padded seats for the toilets.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
All right, so that's not what we're talking about today. Okay,
we're talking about activities that kids can do. But if
they want to crochet a toilet roll, doily, hold a
dolly thingo that that's fine as well. We need to
talk so, like I said, twenty screen free activities to
help your kids to be entertained and do things a
slow way.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We had a painter do a room for us recently,
and it occurred to me as I was watching, can't
use AI to paint the room faster? Like there's so
much of the knowledge work that we do you've got
shortcuts for. But there are some things like landscaping or
brick lay building a house, some things where you just
have to go through the process. And the granny core
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stuff is all about that, and I think that's why
it matters.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, So I'm just going to highlight there is a
little problem here. We've got plenty of families that actually
don't have access to grandparents or have not had the
opportunity to learn these skills as mums and dads, and
it just makes it a little bit hard sometimes.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well that's what the internet's for, so you can watch
it on YouTube, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But the amazing that.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Was a joke. That was ironic because we're saying let's
get off screens, and now I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Go to YouTube.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I missed it, you did. What was your point?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
The point is that the actual gem in these experiences
as we actually get to sit down.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well and ideally you sit down with your grandma.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
That's right. So when I was twelve, I wanted to
learn to knit, and I actually went to my grandma's
house and I sat down with her, and she spent
hours helping me to knit this little baby cardigan. I
still have it. Really, I was so so nervous about
how I was going to do it and whether I
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would be able to accomplish it, that I asked her
to make the smallest one possible. So it must have
been like for a premie baby, because our babies have
never worn it because it was so tiny.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You know what I learned when I was at my grandma's.
I never went and learned to knit. I just learned
to swing on the hills hoist in the backyard. Yeah
that was me anyway, But.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
That was the experience I had with my nan.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, she was able to share that with me. And
it's something that I could pick up again now with
a little bit of help. Okay, So I've got five
for you. A resurgent in knitting, crocheting, baking from scratch, wow, gardening.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Just on baking from scratch. I did eat a chocolate
chip cookie that our fifteen year old cook just recently
and it was pretty done good.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Well, you did eat my anzac biscuit before then, and
I think you actually said she did a better job.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I am trying to eat healthily. Well, so you've got
an in crochet, You've got baking. What else have you got?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Gardening indoors or outdoors, embroidery or cross stitch, scrap booking
and photo album.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
These are all things that I've watched you do these
and initially, like when we got married and you're doing
these things, I thought it was kind of weird because
I grew up in the home. My mum never did
any of this sort of stuff ever, but this Grandma Corps,
this granny core stuff. It's the sort of thing where
you do get immediate gratification, right like when you did
that cross stitch for our eldest daughter. Every single time
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that needle goes through the hole and comes out the
other side, you're seeing progress. It's like gaming in the
old fashioned way. I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I don't even think it's about the progress though. I
think it's about the accomplishment, the end result, seeing something
that you've created with your own hands.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's like when I've mowed the lawn, I feel like
I've done something. Yeah, I think so, just fifty right, Yeah.
But what I like about things like cross stitch and
knitting and crochet and even baking something is it's pretty
stress free, but it's still productive, and so it's really
satisfying because you're producing something. It's not like you're playing
a game and when you get to the end of it,
you don't have any sense of anything, no sense of
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accomplishment when you're playing a game. And there's also no
pressure to excel. It's not like you're being graded. It's
just about creating something with your hands slows you down.
Almost meditative.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, but it gives you space. It gives you mental space,
it gives you emotional space. You know, a lot of
these things. You can actually be thinking about other things
while you're doing it, but it grounds you.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Okay, So we have a second list. This one is
going back to the fifties, sixties, seventies. We're going to
go what grandpak or instead of grand Mark co orps,
maybe a bit of both, old school outdoor fun. Five
activities here. What have we got down on this list?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Hopscotch, jump rope, street games, building tree four, hanging out
with your mates and hideouts, riding bucks around the neighborhood,
playing Capture the Flag. Oh gosh, I can't remember. I
can't remember the last time I played Capture the Flag,
hide and seek, collecting rocks, leaves, making mud pies.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So this is just being outside and figuring stuff out unstructured.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, but this is the kind of stuff that you
did because all your mates were hanging out in the
backyard or in the street.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Teaches kids to entertain themselves with whatever is around, right,
This is not I'm bored. This is just go outside
and play. And like I said, unstructured play is what
builds independence. There's something magical about kids being kids, just
getting dirty, exploring using their imagination, turning a stick into
a sword, or a cardboard box into a spaceship. It's
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that kind of thing. After the break, we have another
ten old school ideas as we go Grandma corps to
entertain the kids without screens. Okay, Kylie. So we've done
a whole lot of indoor stuff, the grandma style activities.
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We've also done some old school outdoor fun. The next
list of five that's going to get us to fifteen
is the sort of things where you're just socially involved
and creating connections. Let's go through those.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
We've actually had lots of success with some of these
board game tournaments or just games nights in general.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Yeah, or even a trivia night. Just get everyone together
and goof off from the backyard or in the living room.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Cooking meals together for the neighbors, getting everyone over for
breakfast one morning with bacon and egg rolls.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Just fire up the barbie. Yeah, I'm super easy.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Doesn't take a lot of effort.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We used to do that in our laborhood. We haven't
done that for a while. I think we're due.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
We might be starting a neighborhood kids club. We used
to do this every Holidays with the kids. I get
a whole loop of their friends over and we'd have
craft at mornings. Yeah yeah, yeah, volunteering at animal shelters
or community gardens, getting older kids to teach younger kids
skills that they already know.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So basically, this list of five things it helps to
create the relationships that will combat the isolation that screens
are creating. The data tells us really clearly that our
children today are the loneliest that children have ever been
since we've been keeping records. Right around the Western world.
Kids are more connected than ever before, and yet they're
more miserable than ever before. So this is empathy, it's
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communication skills, sense of belonging. Like, we're really helping children
to be part of a community. They get to see
the way that their relationship and their interaction impacts others.
Really good for positive peer connections and social growth, and
way better than social media. Let's do our last five.
Now we're getting a little bit constructive. You've put together
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a list of five things that can help kids to build,
create and grow.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Building with Lego or other construction toys, writing and illustrating
their own books, learning a musical instrument, clay modeling or sculpture,
designing and creating costumes.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And what kid doesn't love putting on a play for
at least their parents, if not the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, we've done a few of those two so many So.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
All of these are creative activities. They get the kids
involved with one another, with people in the neighborhood. They
require problem solving, planning, sustained attention, frustration tolerance. These are
the sort of skills that transfer into the rest of
life because that makes it more resilient, and it also
it engages their prefrontal cortex. It get gets them thinking
through things and getting better. I love watching kids develop
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original ideas, the self esteem that comes out of the
ownership over their accomplishments. I just think there's so much
value in that. That is our big list of twenty
ways that we can go old school get the kids
entertained without screens. We'll list the whole twenty in the
show notes. Quick note, if you don't know how to
do any of the things, you might need to use
a screen to get some help. If you can't call Grandma,
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the goal isn't to eliminate screens entirely. The goal is
to ensure that the screens aren't crowding out enriching experiences
that are going to build confidence and creativity and connection
for our kids.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
If grandma's not around, find a grandma, find someone like
That's what this is all about. It's about building community
for our kids and helping them to make positive connections.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Yeah, so we're supposed to wrap this up and not
go on this tangent, but I've got a highlight. Over
the years, you and I have kind of adopted as
grandma's various people who are more mature, more elderly that
our children can spend time with and learn from and
engage with. Because we haven't been around family, we haven't
had your parents and my parents particularly close.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well, we've recognized shut ins, you know, people who don't
have family themselves and so they're really lonely and all
by themselves, and taking our kids around to visit them
has made all the difference.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Or having them over for dinner once a month or
every six weeks or something like that, it just creates
the community and the kids get to see the diversity
of viewpoints and lifestyles like it's just it's a good thing.
So we really hope that these ideas are useful in
helping your children to be screened, free, be productive, learn skills,
and no just generally thrive. Thanks so much for listening
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