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August 7, 2025 • 13 mins

When your child is struggling, do you ever feel like you should know exactly what to say—but you don’t? In this episode, we explore the parenting pressure to fix our kids’ problems... and why sometimes, the best thing we can do is just pick up the phone and listen. Plus: the surprising milestone we celebrated this week and why your relationship deserves a party too.

KEY POINTS

  • Kids often expect parents to know what to do—but we don’t always have the answers. 
  • A powerful reminder: our kids don’t need perfect words—they just need us to show up.
  • Building community makes it easier to hold the line with tricky issues like phones.
  • Why celebrating your marriage or partnership (even obscure milestones!) is crucial for a strong family.
  • Love and presence matter more than parenting “perfection.”

QUOTE OF THE EPISODE

 "I didn’t say anything wise. I didn’t make anything better. I didn’t do emotion coaching or problem-solving. I just listened. And that was enough."

RESOURCES MENTIONED

ACTION STEPS FOR PARENTS

  1. Let go of needing the perfect words – Just be there. Listen.
  2. Build your community – Especially around tricky boundaries like phones and tech.
  3. Celebrate your partner – Mark the small and silly milestones. They matter.
  4. Reconnect with your kids – Even if you don’t have a fix, your presence is powerful.
  5. Remind yourself You don’t have to have the answers. Just love them. Be there.

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Episode Transcript

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is The Happy Family's podcast. My name's doctor Justin Coulson.
Our children seem to just expect that we're going to
know what to do, that we can help them, that
we can guide them, that we've got the magic words
every time something goes wrong, and as parents we often
feel like we're not quite sure what to say, and
yet there's the expectation, the need to fix everything and
get it right. That's what we're talking about today with

(00:28):
Old Do Better Tomorrow and the Happy Families Podcast. Plus
one of the most major milestones nobody ever talks about.
We hit it this week and I can't wait to
tell you what it was and what we did. Stay
with us. Hello and welcome to The Happy Family's podcast,
Real Parenting Solutions Every Day. This is Australia's most downloaded

(00:50):
parenting podcast. We are Justin and Kylie Coulson and Kylie.
Every Friday, you and I have a chat about the
week that was, the stuff that worked, the stuff that didn't,
with the hope that we can be inspirational in some way,
shape or form to help families to be happier. Before
we do though, you had a funny conversation that you
wanted to talk about on today's pod about a young
man and a telephone, and I think that we should

(01:11):
start there.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I think nearly every conversation I have with any parent
ends up or starts with a conversation around mobile.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Phones, oh, kids and screens.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
This is just so tricky for parents to navigate.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Do on my head in yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
But the other day I was chating with one of
my girlfriends and she mentioned that she had caught up
with some friends. They're part of a really great surfing
community here on the Sunshine Coast, and they had acknowledged
that as a group of parents, collectively, they've made a
pact with one another that they are not going to
buy their kids a mobile phone when they go into

(01:47):
high school.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
That's the way to do it. You've got to build
the community. Otherwise the kids are like, whoeverone else can
do it. You've got to have the community.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, my friend's not part of that community. It's her
friends who are part of the community. And she was like, Oh,
good luck to you, Like, I so hope that you
can do this because it is just so hardh totally.
And then as the conversation continued, she was telling me
that her youngest son had been pestering them to get

(02:14):
a mobile phone because he has two older sisters who
when they started high.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
School, they got the fo they got a phone.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Because they were catching a bus and mum and dad
wanted to make sure they were safe.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I'm just going to put this out there. It's not
a right of passage to go to high school and
therefore get a phone. At least wait until eighth grade,
ninth grade, something like that. You don't have to give
your kids a phone just because they're going to high
school and just because everyone else apparently is doing it
because they're not well.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
They decided that they'd learned their lesson and they were
not bending the rules this time, and my parents they
were going to withhold that privilege for as long as
they could. And so her son kept badgering her and
telling her that he was the only kid in the
class that didn't have a mobile phone, and she was
feeling so bad and really really pressured. But she also

(03:00):
knew that there was one other kid in the class,
and she'd spoken to the parents and they were on
the same page and they had decided they weren't giving
this on a mobile phone. And she said, well, what
about so, and so, and he said, oh, no, he's
got one, and she's like, no way, there is no
way he's got one. Or she bumped into his mum
a few days later and she was like, oh, my
son tells me that your son's got a phone. And

(03:21):
she said, yeah, because my son told me that your
son's got one.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
No, they've been They just totally worked their parents. That's
what they do. Well, let's talk about stuff and just
make sure that our parents don't talk and we'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
She literally looked at her and she said, no, we
talked about this. I'm not kidding my son a phone.
So now he is the only kid in the class
he doesn't have.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I didn't take the phone off them. Wow, you didn't
tell me the punchline when you were telling me the
story the other day. All right, so here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Just such tricky stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I mean, the conversation that we had on Wednesday with
doctor Brad Marshall about the impact of phones on every
aspect of kids' lives. If you haven't listened to that chat,
I think it's one of the best end of it
we've ever done on the Happy Families podcast. Definitely worth
a listen. Wednesday's conversation with doctor Brad Marshall. So glad
you shared that story. Build the community, Build the community,
Build the community. In a couple of weeks time, I'm
going to be on the border of New South Wales

(04:13):
and Victoria at a spot called Mohamma or Mohamma moamma.
I'm so sorry to everyone living Ina who's listening right
now because they've got a phone pledge event happening. They're
trying to get the entire community on board with this,
and that is the way to do it. Anyway. Old
about it tomorrow is not meant to be about other
people's stories. It's meant to be about our stories. Last week,
our kids, our kids listened to the podcast. I didn't

(04:36):
know this. They listened independently on their own phone to
this podcast, and we got in trouble because we didn't
tell us stories. We made it all about us and
about reviews that have come through. Oh, by the way,
not going to read them, but we've got a couple
of five star reviews as a result of last week's
conversation about reviews. If you like the pod, we love
your five star reviews. Thank you. But this is where
we reflect on what we got right or wrong. And

(04:56):
this week we had a very emotional teenager who spoke
with you, what's your old do better tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (05:04):
One of our daughters has been on school camp, which
doesn't leave too many daughters to choose from.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So it was the one that was on a school camp.
There we go, but she.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Rang me on day two and she doesn't usually bring
me from camp, so I knew that something was up
straight away. But she was a little bit chirpy, and
I kind of just, you know, answered her questions. But
as the conversation continued, I noticed a definite shift in
her mood and her demeanor, and she said, Mum, I'm
just having a really hard time. And so then she

(05:34):
started to share some of the struggles that she was having,
and in my heart, I was kind of getting a
little bit of anxiety because I know that this experience
for her is challenging. She's on a school camp with
multiple campuses coming together. She's the only kid from her campus,
she has no teachers from her campus there.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
So when you think about relatedness as a basic psychological need,
she's in an environment where related needs are not going
to be easily supported because there are no. Relationships really
tricky and if she can't gel, then it makes it
even harder to be on that camp. This is why
we make such a big deal about these basic psychological
needs needs support. Need satisfaction increases wellbeing and motivation. Need frustration,

(06:18):
need thwarting reduces motivation and wellbeing.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
She loves the work that she's doing, but it's also
stretching her physically. She's getting up at about three point
thirty each morning so that she can muck out stables
and work with horses, and it's all day, like she's
relentless all day. And so she continued to get more
and more worked up as she shared things with me,
and then all of a sudden, there was just this

(06:43):
shift and she said, Mum, I know I'm going to
be okay. I've got through harder things than this. She said,
I just needed to hear voice today, and I'm just
so proud of this kid. But what it also helped
me recognize is that I don't actually have to have
all the answers. She just needed to know. Like the

(07:03):
last thing she said to me is thanks for picking up.
That was the gold standard for Tuesday that I picked
up the phone. I didn't say anything wise. I didn't
didn't make anything better.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Didn't do any emotion coaching, didn't do any gentle parenting,
didn't do any problem solving.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I just listened. I literally just listened, and that was enough.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's great. Take our message after the break, the magic
milestone that everybody should celebrate, but nobody's thought of before
we made it happen. This week, I'll tell you more
in just a second.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
You know you're extra right.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
You know I am extra So here's the details. Thanks
so much for hanging in there while we do our
older better tomorrow. My old better tomorrow is not so
much about parenting. It's about husbanding and why. It's about
being a strong couple. This is something that we talk
about on the pod from time to time, and I
just don't think it gets enough emphasis. We get so
worried about the kids sometimes we forget the relationship that
matters most, which is the if you're fortunate enough to

(08:11):
be in a married a partner relationship, it's the relationship
that you share with your significant other. So here's the background.
Earlier this year, as we were coming up to our
twenty seventh anniversary, I started playing around with the numbers
in my head on like twenty seven years, three hundred
and sixty five days. I did some quick sums and
I was like, m, that sounds like it's gott to
be in the nine thousands. It might have been getting

(08:31):
close to ten thousand days. And so I jumped into
ai because I wasn't going to do the calculations and
work out the leap years. And I put out our
wedding date in and I put that date in, and
I said how many days has it been? Turns out
it'd been nine thy eight hundred and something days. My
mouth was good, and then I thought, you know what,
ten thousand days is a big deal. I wonder what

(08:53):
date that will be. And this week we had our
ten thousand day wedding anniversary for ten thousand days. One
of the days this week, it was on Tuesday, and
so I booked us a special event. You and I
went hot air ballooning and had a house this. Let's
celebrate the day by waking up at four point thirty

(09:13):
driving for an hour in the freezing cold, climbing into
a hot air balloon with a bunch of strangers. It
was great Sunshine Coast ballooning. I'm giving them a plug
that they didn't pay for it. It's not a sponsored
post or anything. But we just had such a great morning.
It was serene, it was calm, I would say it was.
It was quite blissful.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Obviously, you have the burst of hot air going up
and so that creates noise, but outside of that, I
was actually blown away.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Literally you're in a balloon. You're blown away. I love it.
See what you did there. It didn't even mean it.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
It was so quiet. Yeah, it was so quiet, and
I didn't expect it to be so smooth, like, because.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
You're just going with the wind, so you don't feel
you're just moving, and it doesn't. I feel like if
you weren't watching, you wouldn't know you were moving.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, no, And there was no like, there was no movement.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
So it was a real tree. It was a real tree.
But the main thing that I want to emphasize is
if you want to have a strong family, if you
want to have happy kids, having a great relationship with
your husband, wife, partner, spouse, it makes a huge difference.
And finding ways to celebrate one another and to celebrate
the relationship that you share is wonderful.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's just such a crazy ways to make an excuse
to celebrate.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean maybe maybe we will have
a celebration for the ten thousand, seven hundred and forty
third day as well, just because it's really nice to
do that stuff. Oh, that's a couple of years away.
I think we should do it sooner than that. I'd
do better tomorrow is how can you celebrate one another.
It doesn't have to be hot, air ballooning. It doesn't
even have to be expensive. It could be a flower
that you pick out of the garden on the way

(10:49):
in the door. It might be picking up your speaking.
I guess I'm speaking to the men. Maybe women like
to pick up their men as well. I don't know.
It might be picking up your partner and swinging them
around the room something that we haven't done for us,
dancing in the kitchen. Dancing in the kitchen, well, you
could make me dinner tonight. That's a deal. That's a deal. Anyway.

(11:10):
That's my old about it tomorrow. Find ways to celebrate
and just love, love and show that you love your husband, wife, spouse, partner.
It was a real treat to do that. I do
have other older a better Tomorrow's about our kids, and
I kind of want to share them, but I'm going
to get in trouble for going for too long by
the kids who say that if we talk too much
it gets us in trouble, but they do like hearing

(11:31):
their names. I'm going to share two really quick stories
in thirty seconds. I know you're pulling a face at me,
but I'm going to do it anyway. My podcast, My rules.
The same daughter. I rang her the next day and
she had a little cry with me as well, and
then said, but I've got it, and again I didn't
have any solutions. I was like, okay, forty eight hours
to go. I believe in you. You got this. And

(11:51):
another one of our daughters who was having a really
rough time before an exam, I don't know if I
got this one right. I said, you just have to
go tough enough. It's futile to argue with it. Stop
being a worry what stop being anxious. I don't care
if you get zero. It actually doesn't matter. You just
need to go and do the exam and then the
school tod of this. You have to do it. So
I just looked like the big bad parent. Anyway, take

(12:12):
our message, love, don't have to have all the answers.
Even if you do have answers, you're probably going to
be wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
You're painting this beautiful picture. I just love it.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
But this is live. I'm actually saying it to highlight
we're the pairing experts, right. I've written the books, We've
done all this stuff for the last twenty five years
with our own kids. You don't have to have all
the answers. You just have to love each other. I
love those kids, and I was there for them to
have the conversations. I'm crazy about you, absolutely mad about you,
and made a celebration of an anniversary that I don't

(12:41):
I've never seen this. I have've never heard anyone else talk
about that ten thousandth day. We should wrap this up.
The Happy Families podcast is produced by Justin Roland from
Bridge Media. Mim Hammond's provides admin research and additional support,
and if you'd like more resources to make your family happier,
you can find them all at happy families dot com
dot au. Have a great weekend, find ways to connect,

(13:02):
find ways to love, and we'll talk to you again
on Monday.
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