With two dangerous fugitives on the loose, it feels like we're living in an action movie. But how long could you really survive off-grid?
We discuss the ongoing manhunts for two men accused of horrific crimes in Australia and New Zealand. Both are believed to be hiding out in the wilderness, evading capture for years. We also chat about the challenges of living off-grid long-term and whether we could hack it ourselves (the results may surprise you).
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
We'll try and catch up some time.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Right now, we want to talk to you about the manhunts,
two man hunts, two big man hunts going on transtasm.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
This feels like we're in a movie right now watching this.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Doesn't it.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, So Desi Freeman is obviously the big one over
in Victoria at the moment. He is accused of fatally
shooting two detectives and he's been on the run since
August twenty six.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
So still at large. No one can find him.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No one can find him.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Mabe in the bush somewhere and that's where they go.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, he'll be out there.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
His son Coha has come out and spoken on the
weekend and he was offering his condolences to the loved
ones of the victims. But he also said, my dad,
I'm not sure you've seen this is a quote from him.
Not sure you've seen the movie Rambo, especially the first Rambo.
Dad is like ten times Rambo. Oh God, So he
can just he'll just live forever. He won't eat forever. Whatever,
it doesn't matter. It'll do what it takes.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Somewhere and no one will find him.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I was speaking to someone who's quite high in our
police force and they were just that he is either
going to be in a bunker like you would have
had this all pre planned, like a doomsday prepper type thing.
He'll have a bunker in the middle of the Victorian wilderness,
or someone's hiding him.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
And what can you do. You can't knock on every
single door someone's hiding Regional Victoria.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
No, if someone's hiding him, he'll get found because people talk,
People say, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Like, somebody else knows where he is, so it's going
to get out.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Sovereign citizens are a very tight knit community. Oh true, true,
they stick together anyway. There's a one million dollar bounty
on his arrest. But here is what can happen when
someone does get found. Because over in New Zealand this
week there's a father who disappeared into the New Zealand
wilderness with his three children four years ago, had not
(01:49):
been seen until this year until like a couple of
weeks ago, and just yesterday they found him and he
was shot dead.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Because he.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So he's been living in the middle of New Zealand,
no one, like off the land hasn't obviously been to
shops or anything, because no one's found him with children
who like, there's a ten year old and now they're fourteen.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
When they went on the run, the three children were eight, seven,
and five years old. Awful. The mother hadn't seen them obviously.
Since then, no one's seen them.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Since then, they have been living off the land, like
the Hunt for the Wilder People, which is a great
movie and is a lot more lighthearted than this, since
December twenty twenty one, living off grid.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
He doesn't have legal custody of the kids.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
But when you live in the wilderness for four years,
there aren't really a lot of rules. See the mom
thing that they'd all died, well, she had no idea
and no one had seen them.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
No one had found any traces of remains or anything.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Maybe this is why we all need to have like
apple tags and us when we're born, you all know
track it. I know, I hate that because it's like
a big brother thing. Everyone's watching you know where you are.
But like if that happens, they would know exactly where
they are.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Still being tracked from the COVID vaccine that they've got.
That's why I get grade five G on my phone.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Theory of course, Hailey, if you had to go on
the run right now, you've just been. Even if you didn't,
the crime has been put on you. You have to
go on the run. How long are you surviving?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Like a second, I can't you know me, I would
be flapping about, Eh, I'm on the run.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You get in your car, you.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Go straight to a petrol station, you tap and go instantly, right, Well,
I know she hit the petrol station.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Nice dress Cuba, and I'd just stop in there.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
That's on sale.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Go there, that's Camo. That will help me in the wilderness.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
But I often think.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Like what you would do, like if you're stuck somewhere,
Like how what would you eat?
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Like would you like you'd have.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
To drink your own WI and all that kind of stuff,
Like what how would I survive?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I don't even eat red meat. I can't kill animals
and eat them.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
We're gonna have to find some forests somewhere, like something
with running water.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Caipo forests. There's some mushrooms out there.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Careful with the mushrooms.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Hailey's lasted a week and then she's gone on some
sort of psycho But then I would put it.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
On Instagram and look at this, look at the glowing
mushroom guys, and then everyone would find me.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Police gimission to Grant Stevens is just following a long Instagram.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
She'll slip up. There she is.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
She's stuck into the Mount Compass Pub, right, Tammy there
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