November 20, 2024 • 9 mins
Ali Challenges Top Earning OnlyFans Model For Taking Advantage Of Schoolies
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mix one or two point three Max Andally in the morning. Now,
this morning, we've been talking about what's going on at
schoolies and for the last couple of months there has
been I guess a really big interest in the around
people who are on only fans going to schoolies and
deliberately targeting boys at schoolies for sexual experiences.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
If you have been anywhere near news dot com dot you,
it's impossible because damn they love these articles.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Now Annie Night is back with us. We spoke to
about a year ago. She calls herself the most sexually
active women in Australia. Any, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We've just broken out, we've broken, we've broken and we've
just broken an I don't know if you're talking or not.
Just hanging up one second, okay, breaking knobs talking today?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Any good morning? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good morning? I'm good, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now I need your help massively on this. We've spoken
to you before and I am awful people making choices
and you doing whatever it is that you want to
do because you will live with the consequences for it.
But for some reason, Hunt, this is really sticking in
my gut. Yourself and other content creators, adult content creators
(01:16):
going and targeting schoolies where lots of young boys are
gathered together and saying, hey, come and have sex with me.
You sign all these forms and everything else, and then
you will go on my content page.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes only fans.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Why why do you do it?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, I mean there's so many reasons. I think. The
first one is it's obviously like first and foremost, we
can't deny that it is good content for us. The
second one is that we actually are providing a safer
environment for them during their schoolies experience, because they're going
to be going out there and sleeping with you know,
young women anyway in a situation where they might be
intoxicated and the consent might be blurred and there might
(01:55):
not be protection news, Whereas we're offering them a different
option where they can have safe sex in a safe
environment with two respectful, consensual women who are going to
create the best experience for them.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But aren't they going to do that anyway? Like they
will have their experience with you and signed and everything else,
because there are forms and it's all regulated, isn't it
from your point of view?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, But even if they do that, aren't they then
also going to go to the pub the next night
and have a few drinks and maybe do that stuff anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean potentially, I don't know, but I'm just saying that, like,
for those who maybe don't even want to do that,
but they want a safer environment to do it, they
have that option and we're not forcing them to. We're
not saying, hey, you know, you have to come and
do this. We're just giving them the option. They can
choose to come willingly or not.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Don't you think they're any like And I'm trying to
picture what it was like, you know, schoolies or when
not like groups of boys, because that's what we're dealing
with here, are getting together that there would be boys
that are coming along for the right pardon the part,
that they would becoming a long for this experience because
a few of their mates have kind of peer pressured
(03:04):
them into it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So I'm going to go on.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And you know, we're all staying at the same all right,
let's go on do this. Do you think that there
would be people that would be in that instance going
this is actually not how I want my first sexual
experience or asexual experience to be. But don't feel that
they can speak up in front of their mates and
that culture.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, here's the thing, Bonnie and I are very aware
of this as being a problem, so we can kind
of pick up on their body language. If we feel
like a guy has been peered into it and he's
not one hundred percent committed, we will just say, look,
we're not gonna we're not going to film with you,
and we've made that decision for them. The other thing
is if one of them slips through the cracks and
pretends like he's all keen and then later changes his mind,
(03:45):
we tell them, you can revoke content at any point,
so you can tell us not to sell that video,
and we will not sell that video, and this will stay.
I mean, it's going to stay between us anyway. It's
all private, it's all anonymous. No one's face has shown
nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
How aren't you setting sex up as being really transactional? Like,
because how long are you spending with these boys?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It depends, like I can, how long they last essentially.
I mean, sometimes you know, it's ten minutes, sometimes it's
an hour, Sometimes it's longer, sometimes it's shorter.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Do you get a kick out of that, Annie?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean, it is fun and it's but like they
enjoy it too. It's not like we're both having a
good time. We're both there to have a good time.
So it is fun meeting new people and getting to
have new experiences and teaching them how to respect women
and how to have, you know, proper sex.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I remember when I was eighteen, and for the most part, Anie,
I'm not really too far. I don't have any kids.
I'm not really as against this as Alie may be.
I remember when I was eighteen, I was like very
underdeveloped as a human. I was just so dumb and
a kid, and I probably could have been a fifteen
(04:54):
year old. Do you see some people come in. I'm
sure you get your eighteen year old man child and
like he knows what he's all about. But do you
ever have to stop yourself and go, I know you're eighteen,
I know you can give consent, but I just don't
feel like you're an adult.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well no, I think that's sort of undermining them. I
think they're eighteen years old that can make their own choices.
So and like, like I keep saying, you know, they
can remote consider at any time in the middle of
filming if they want, or three years on line, ten
years down the line. But the thing is that's never happened.
We've always provided them with, you know, a great experience.
They know that they can rely on us, they can
(05:30):
trust us. We've hard situations with you know, eighteen year
old versions in the past who have messaged us since
we've taken their virginities and have thanked us and have
said that it's helped them with their future experiences.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But it hasn't happened yet because this is only a
fairly new phenomenon Annie.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Right, So Bonnie did this last year, but that's new.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's like in the last couple of years. I'm picturing
an eighteen year old boy spending time with you, say
this year at school ease and getting down the track.
In the meantime, his content has been up on your
site all this entire time, and then all of a sudden,
the penny drops and he needs to get a job
in a I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Know, Okay. So here's the thing though, it's all anonymous,
so no one knows he's featured in that video. No
job met person is going to be able to do
any search and find this content of this of this guy.
That it's just not going to happen. It doesn't happen,
So anonymous.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Face is a blurred like there's no distinguishing sort of
features are there.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, like they're eighteen years old, most of them don't
have any tatoos, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Absolutely, I mean they can't see their face. No, no, absolutely, no,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Like, does this stuff go off on your on your
only fans any Obviously people are into it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's super taboo. I mean, look at the media backlash
we've gotten from it. So people are interested, they're curious
of course itselfs well.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
A lot of parents online are calling you predatory. What
do you say to.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That, Well, we're not predators. First of all, we're only
few years older than these men that were filming with.
And what that's doing is creating a bad name. By
calling us predators, you're creating a bad name for sex work.
It's not us just creating the bad name. It's the
people that are calling us predators because it's them putting
all sex workers in the category of predators, which is
(07:17):
setting us back in the industry. But we're not predatory.
We're creating a safe space, safe environment. It's fully consensual,
it's fully legal, and it's not morally wrong, like everyone
is saying. I mean, at the end of the day,
sex is just sex. People put so much pressure on
sex being this like huge thing. Like sex can just
be a casual thing and a fun thing to enjoy.
(07:37):
It doesn't have to be that serious.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Annie, You and Bonnie were kicked out of FIGI. There
have been issues with her being able to get into
Australia and everything else. What do you say to governments
trying to regulate this and to do that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, first of all, I actually didn't get supported from Fiji.
We left the country willingly before that happened.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, the Minister of your immigration said that they were
coming after you. That was you know, that was kind
of yeah, a.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Bit slow, they missed us.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, I mean, like, so, if you're a YouTuber and
you go over to Fiji and you're logging the whole time,
you come back home, you upload that video to YouTube
and then you make money from it, exact same thing.
So why is that okay? But as sex workers, because
we're female sex workers doing that, that's illegal apparently, Like
the thing is, we didn't sell the content. We weren't
(08:31):
selling the content while we were there. We simply had
sex films are on camera, and then we're coming back
to the country, to our country and then selling it online,
so we weren't actually making any money or technically working
over there.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Annie. When you have a child and it's a boy
and this boy goes to school, is this is how
you want him to lose his virginity?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I think this is the best way for a Yes,
one hundred percent, because I've spoken to family friends of
mine who have like four boys age of eighteen, and
they're like, this is this I couldn't be anything better
after them, like, this is the best way for them
to lose their virginity in a safe environment that's fully contensual,
and that's what I would want for my son.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Wow, what a different perspective.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Phone line is open thirteen one oh two three any night.
Thank you as always for taking our.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Call, taking a stand.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I really appreciate it having me on your time.
And are you off to Gold Coast now? Ah?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yes, I'm heading to Gold Coast speak so I'll be
there for week two.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, I'm not gonna lie the fact that you said
you're not coming to South Australia, Victor Harbor. I think
a few parents might still be going f you. Okay,
I'm the same right
Speaker 2 (09:33):
To enjoy the thing there
Mix one or two point three Max Andally in the morning. Now,
this morning, we've been talking about what's going on at
schoolies and for the last couple of months there has
been I guess a really big interest in the around
people who are on only fans going to schoolies and
deliberately targeting boys at schoolies for sexual experiences.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
If you have been anywhere near news dot com dot you,
it's impossible because damn they love these articles.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Now Annie Night is back with us. We spoke to
about a year ago. She calls herself the most sexually
active women in Australia. Any, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
We've just broken out, we've broken, we've broken and we've
just broken an I don't know if you're talking or not.
Just hanging up one second, okay, breaking knobs talking today?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Any good morning? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good morning? I'm good, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now I need your help massively on this. We've spoken
to you before and I am awful people making choices
and you doing whatever it is that you want to
do because you will live with the consequences for it.
But for some reason, Hunt, this is really sticking in
my gut. Yourself and other content creators, adult content creators
(01:16):
going and targeting schoolies where lots of young boys are
gathered together and saying, hey, come and have sex with me.
You sign all these forms and everything else, and then
you will go on my content page.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yes only fans.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Why why do you do it?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, I mean there's so many reasons. I think. The
first one is it's obviously like first and foremost, we
can't deny that it is good content for us. The
second one is that we actually are providing a safer
environment for them during their schoolies experience, because they're going
to be going out there and sleeping with you know,
young women anyway in a situation where they might be
intoxicated and the consent might be blurred and there might
(01:55):
not be protection news, Whereas we're offering them a different
option where they can have safe sex in a safe
environment with two respectful, consensual women who are going to
create the best experience for them.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
But aren't they going to do that anyway? Like they
will have their experience with you and signed and everything else,
because there are forms and it's all regulated, isn't it
from your point of view?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, But even if they do that, aren't they then
also going to go to the pub the next night
and have a few drinks and maybe do that stuff anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean potentially, I don't know, but I'm just saying that, like,
for those who maybe don't even want to do that,
but they want a safer environment to do it, they
have that option and we're not forcing them to. We're
not saying, hey, you know, you have to come and
do this. We're just giving them the option. They can
choose to come willingly or not.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Don't you think they're any like And I'm trying to
picture what it was like, you know, schoolies or when
not like groups of boys, because that's what we're dealing
with here, are getting together that there would be boys
that are coming along for the right pardon the part,
that they would becoming a long for this experience because
a few of their mates have kind of peer pressured
(03:04):
them into it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So I'm going to go on.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
And you know, we're all staying at the same all right,
let's go on do this. Do you think that there
would be people that would be in that instance going
this is actually not how I want my first sexual
experience or asexual experience to be. But don't feel that
they can speak up in front of their mates and
that culture.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, here's the thing, Bonnie and I are very aware
of this as being a problem, so we can kind
of pick up on their body language. If we feel
like a guy has been peered into it and he's
not one hundred percent committed, we will just say, look,
we're not gonna we're not going to film with you,
and we've made that decision for them. The other thing
is if one of them slips through the cracks and
pretends like he's all keen and then later changes his mind,
(03:45):
we tell them, you can revoke content at any point,
so you can tell us not to sell that video,
and we will not sell that video, and this will stay.
I mean, it's going to stay between us anyway. It's
all private, it's all anonymous. No one's face has shown
nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
How aren't you setting sex up as being really transactional? Like,
because how long are you spending with these boys?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It depends, like I can, how long they last essentially.
I mean, sometimes you know, it's ten minutes, sometimes it's
an hour, Sometimes it's longer, sometimes it's shorter.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Do you get a kick out of that, Annie?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I mean, it is fun and it's but like they
enjoy it too. It's not like we're both having a
good time. We're both there to have a good time.
So it is fun meeting new people and getting to
have new experiences and teaching them how to respect women
and how to have, you know, proper sex.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I remember when I was eighteen, and for the most part, Anie,
I'm not really too far. I don't have any kids.
I'm not really as against this as Alie may be.
I remember when I was eighteen, I was like very
underdeveloped as a human. I was just so dumb and
a kid, and I probably could have been a fifteen
(04:54):
year old. Do you see some people come in. I'm
sure you get your eighteen year old man child and
like he knows what he's all about. But do you
ever have to stop yourself and go, I know you're eighteen,
I know you can give consent, but I just don't
feel like you're an adult.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well no, I think that's sort of undermining them. I
think they're eighteen years old that can make their own choices.
So and like, like I keep saying, you know, they
can remote consider at any time in the middle of
filming if they want, or three years on line, ten
years down the line. But the thing is that's never happened.
We've always provided them with, you know, a great experience.
They know that they can rely on us, they can
(05:30):
trust us. We've hard situations with you know, eighteen year
old versions in the past who have messaged us since
we've taken their virginities and have thanked us and have
said that it's helped them with their future experiences.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But it hasn't happened yet because this is only a
fairly new phenomenon Annie.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Right, So Bonnie did this last year, but that's new.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That's like in the last couple of years. I'm picturing
an eighteen year old boy spending time with you, say
this year at school ease and getting down the track.
In the meantime, his content has been up on your
site all this entire time, and then all of a sudden,
the penny drops and he needs to get a job
in a I don't.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Know, Okay. So here's the thing though, it's all anonymous,
so no one knows he's featured in that video. No
job met person is going to be able to do
any search and find this content of this of this guy.
That it's just not going to happen. It doesn't happen,
So anonymous.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Face is a blurred like there's no distinguishing sort of
features are there.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, like they're eighteen years old, most of them don't
have any tatoos, nothing like that.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Absolutely, I mean they can't see their face. No, no, absolutely, no,
you're right.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Like, does this stuff go off on your on your
only fans any Obviously people are into it.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
It's super taboo. I mean, look at the media backlash
we've gotten from it. So people are interested, they're curious
of course itselfs well.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
A lot of parents online are calling you predatory. What
do you say to.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That, Well, we're not predators. First of all, we're only
few years older than these men that were filming with.
And what that's doing is creating a bad name. By
calling us predators, you're creating a bad name for sex work.
It's not us just creating the bad name. It's the
people that are calling us predators because it's them putting
all sex workers in the category of predators, which is
(07:17):
setting us back in the industry. But we're not predatory.
We're creating a safe space, safe environment. It's fully consensual,
it's fully legal, and it's not morally wrong, like everyone
is saying. I mean, at the end of the day,
sex is just sex. People put so much pressure on
sex being this like huge thing. Like sex can just
be a casual thing and a fun thing to enjoy.
(07:37):
It doesn't have to be that serious.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Annie, You and Bonnie were kicked out of FIGI. There
have been issues with her being able to get into
Australia and everything else. What do you say to governments
trying to regulate this and to do that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, first of all, I actually didn't get supported from Fiji.
We left the country willingly before that happened.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, the Minister of your immigration said that they were
coming after you. That was you know, that was kind
of yeah, a.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Bit slow, they missed us.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, I mean, like, so, if you're a YouTuber and
you go over to Fiji and you're logging the whole time,
you come back home, you upload that video to YouTube
and then you make money from it, exact same thing.
So why is that okay? But as sex workers, because
we're female sex workers doing that, that's illegal apparently, Like
the thing is, we didn't sell the content. We weren't
(08:31):
selling the content while we were there. We simply had
sex films are on camera, and then we're coming back
to the country, to our country and then selling it online,
so we weren't actually making any money or technically working
over there.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Annie. When you have a child and it's a boy
and this boy goes to school, is this is how
you want him to lose his virginity?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
I think this is the best way for a Yes,
one hundred percent, because I've spoken to family friends of
mine who have like four boys age of eighteen, and
they're like, this is this I couldn't be anything better
after them, like, this is the best way for them
to lose their virginity in a safe environment that's fully contensual,
and that's what I would want for my son.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Wow, what a different perspective.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Phone line is open thirteen one oh two three any night.
Thank you as always for taking our.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Call, taking a stand.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I really appreciate it having me on your time.
And are you off to Gold Coast now? Ah?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yes, I'm heading to Gold Coast speak so I'll be
there for week two.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Okay, I'm not gonna lie the fact that you said
you're not coming to South Australia, Victor Harbor. I think
a few parents might still be going f you. Okay,
I'm the same right
Speaker 2 (09:33):
To enjoy the thing there
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.