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September 8, 2025 • 13 mins

Grab your coffee and get ready to dive into today's spicy episode on cleavage etiquette and dress codes! How much cleavage is too much? Do women dress for attention or for themselves? And what are the rules for men - can you compliment cleavage or should you just not look? We tackle these burning questions head-on.

Hayley sets the record straight on why she wore a cleavage-baring dress to a recent gala. Hint: it's not for the attention. Max still seems confused about cleavage etiquette. This prompts an open discussion on whether it's okay for men to comment on a woman's cleavage.

The consensus: women dress for themselves, not for attention. Men should keep comments classy and focused above the neckline. Compliment the whole outfit, not just the cleavage! What do you think? Let us know!

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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I've got a Wall of Truth question for Haley today
which she has to answer, as the name suggests, truthfully.
And this one is not just out of my interest.
This is on behalf of all of mankind, with the
emphasis on the man part of it. Hailey Pearson and

(00:33):
all women your Wall of truth question? Do you wear
booby dresses purely just for address attention? No, there's my answer,
because here's my context. Saturday night, we went to the
Hospital Research Foundation gala ball great raised heap of money.

(00:55):
Brilliant cause everyone look at a million bucks. You were
on stage hosting it and you were looking a million bucks.
You also had a lot of cleave going on, a
lot of that cleavage, and it was noted by a few.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I've got dms about your cleeve.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Actually, why people care so much about my boobs.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Because they looked out.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
They weren't all out.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
It's because I don't often wear something that revealing, probably,
and so it's like, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh, she's actually got boobs, so here's my thing.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
No, okay, I know what you mean.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Looked great, congratulations. But am I allowed to say that?
Am I allowed to comment on them? Am I allowed
to look at them? Do you want me to ignore them?
What do you want to happen when your boobs look good?

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Okay, so first of all, when you have babies, boobs
become like your elbow we have when you're breastfed. They've
been out for everybody. Like I don't look at my
boobs as a sexual thing at all. They're just there, right,
this is part of my body. But I will say this,
and I think I'm probably generalizing, but this is on
behalf of most women. We dress to feel confident within ourselves.

(01:57):
I don't ever think I don't dress for another man,
or my husband or anyone. I dress for how I'm
going to feel confident and powerful or sexy or however
I want to feel. I dress for me, right, So
when I go out like that, I'm not doing it
because I want other men to look or anything like that.
If anything, the secondary is that I want to look
good with my friends, and I want my girlfriends to

(02:19):
really like what I'm wearing and.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Achieve confidence and feeling good through compliments.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And the compliments is really compliments is lovely.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
I was sitting across from someone else who works here
and her boobs were so out and all I.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Wanted to say, but she's got a really big buck.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I can put them away. But all I wanted to say,
I am I allowed to say your boobs look great tonight?

Speaker 6 (02:39):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
So here's the other rule. So obviously, whatever you're wearing,
you want people. If people think you look nice, that's really,
that's great.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
We don't dress just because we want your attention.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
But if you're on my inner circle, right so you
can say whatever you want to me because we're friends.
If some random said to me your boobs look at great,
I would be like, yuck, get away from me.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
But how do I know who I can say that?

Speaker 5 (03:05):
You don't say you don't say it or never say it.
I would say you look as beautiful tonight. You don't
have to point out. It's not like we go you
look great tonight, Max, your package looks big?

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Do you want that? Random?

Speaker 5 (03:14):
If they do, imagine that, we're not going to ever
say something like that.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
I got my tailor to fix up suit. So that
really look, what.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
You have to understand is it's just part of our body.
It's who we are. It's not like we're pushing them out.
So everybody looks.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So what's the rule for the random then the guy
that you don't know who does notice that your boobs
look good, So just maintain eye contact. Can't even look there.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
Oh, there's nothing worse when you're talking to someone and
they're looking down at your chest and my face is
up here.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
If I don't know.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
What, you can look.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
You can look whatever you want to if you're far
away from photos on Instagram. I'm sure people zoom in
on this kind of stuff, but you don't say it
to someone if you're not in your inner circle.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I wouldn't appreciate.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
That's what I would think would be a compliment.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Someone ever said that to you.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah, but like if someone if someone turned around and said,
you're downstairs is looking big.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Take downstairs out of it, because that's weird because we
don't know any It isn't downstairs in it. But what
about like your your muscles or something like your pipes
look massive in that, so like it's tight twelve foot muscles, biceps.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, okay, I think I would love girls to call
up now thirty one or two three. It just tell
us your opinion. Do you the boys are saying that
we wear booby dresses.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Asking it feels confusing because they're out.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
But we're not doing it for you.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
It's not our fault a matter of what you who
you're doing it for.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's just a matter of how do we react and respond.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
You just say you look great tonight. You don't have
to make reference to.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
But you've just told me that. I can tell you
that's because.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
You're in my inner circle.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
It's very rare that people probably have close, really close
guy friends like I do because I work with you
guys so closely.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
All right, give us your rules on this.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Burge O and I in the studio and need a
little bit of help because I think the three of
us can all agree you boobs did look great on
the weekend, and we wanted to know. Do you want
us to tell you that? Do you want us to
look at it? Do you want us to say nothing
and never acknowledge it?

Speaker 7 (05:09):
No?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
I think I just you just want people to go
you look great, full stop.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think I think women actually sometimes aren't completely honest
with themselves, and I think they actually do enjoy male attention.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
What we enjoy attention.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
It's so you want to feel good, it's not. But
it's not about the boob stuff. You've got to understand.
It's just part of our body. We're not just we're
not we can't help that they're there, do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Like, it's just part of us.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
We're not doing it for you, We're doing it for
our own personal confidence. We want to feel confident within ourselves.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Tracy and Hackeins called in trace. Have you got an
opinion here?

Speaker 7 (05:46):
Absolutely? I follow Hailey on Instagram and I saw her
photos on the weekend and I thought the whole outfit
was amazing and your boobies were rocking.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Girl.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
I was going to send you, I was going to
send you a DM to just say that you looked
hot and your boobs looked great. But I didn't. I
had it all typed up and then I deleted it
because I know and the Sisterhood I feel as part
of the Sisterhood, were allowed to do that. It's that, yes,
and it's succeptible as opposed to a male saying nice boobs.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Well, where do you stand on this trace?

Speaker 1 (06:18):
If you were if the roles were reversed, and would
you accept compliments from your male friends. Only close friends,
no one where are you on the scale. We're just
trying to work it out because we're confused.

Speaker 7 (06:29):
Yeah, I would accept compliments from close friends, or I would.
I still think it'd be a bit it's a bit
creepy with the male saying nice boobs. How about your
entire outfit? You look amazing tonight, Hayley, your boobs are
on point. As a mum who's also had two kids,
if your boobs were great in an outfit, you're going
to get them out, girl.

Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, because you do lose a lot of confidence after
your breastfeed, You really do, because they can turn into
tea bags.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Can also just add that women know that the one
thing that men love about women is boobs, and so
what you're doing and flaunting them in front of our
facen lot of us body knowing that we like them,
and you're just they're like, here, you go have them,
but don't say anything, don't look at them, don't do this,
don't do that.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
It just is such a tight rope for us to walk.
Just don't.

Speaker 5 (07:18):
The rule is I think Tracy's right, Just don't say
anything to say you look great, don't comment on that
particular part of our body.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
That's all girls can say to each other.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
I love that.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
And Tracy's saying that I did get a lot of
dms from other women it was nice.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
But not from blokes.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I don't get one from a guy, which is great.
They know the rules, except you two.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
I'm just trying to help the fellows out here. They'd
love to give you a compliment.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
They didn't DM, they just screenshot it.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Stop Andrew and Callington's called in thirty one oh two three, Andrew,
what do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well?

Speaker 6 (07:47):
My oping is, hey, we probably did look nice. But
my point is my wife'd be married thirty years. I
still look at women. My wife points them out to me,
and she goes like, if you don't want men to
look at your boobs, cover up, you know really why.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
She said, we want to feel good with ourself.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
I understand not all women that like look. I understand that.
I understand that fully, But some women overhanging me out.
If you understand, what's the point you to your males
will look? You know, it's just in our gender.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I like Andrew saying that he looks and his wife looks.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
They all look and my wife points.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Andrew, and for.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Me, is a problem if Andrew looks but not if
his wife looks, well.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Is that the problem? Haw? Where are we on that?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
No, I'm fine for people to look, but we're not.
I just wanted to make it really clear. We're like,
we shouldn't just cover up just because guys are going
to look at us. Who cares?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
As long as you don't be creepy and look there
when I'm talking to your face or say gross things
that I don't care.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I'm not saying cover up. I just want to know
how to react.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Andrew, appreciate your opinion as start in Parkside.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
What do you think?

Speaker 8 (09:02):
Hi, guys, how are you this morning? Thank you awesome?
So my opinion is as a person who is more
well endowned in that area, I feel like it kind
of depends on the size of it a little bit.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Okay, so bigger means.

Speaker 8 (09:20):
What bigger means that no matter how much you have out,
you are going to get completely ogled. Like I'm at
the point where I can't physically wear anything with even
a slight bit of cleavage out because I know that
I'm just going to get stared at and ogled at
and that's just really uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, I want to know how that make you feel.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
It makes me feel gross honestly.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Yeah, so you don't even like people like looking from afar?
My thing is don't say anything.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Okay, Yeah, that's really hard.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
It's hard, isn't it. That's just your body and you
can't go out and just be who you are. We're
a bikini on the beach because people are going to
stare at you and make you feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
So do you want to wear like do you want
to just have them out without people looking?

Speaker 8 (10:02):
Sometimes I would love to, Like, I'd love to just
go out and be confident, but it looks the fact
that everyone looks and sexualized.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
That's what men don't understand. We don't understand why you'd
want your boobs out because we.

Speaker 8 (10:13):
Don't realistically, realistically, they're just a body part.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yes, I said it. They're like an elbow.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
I think it's because we don't exactly.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's exciting for us because I have them, Like, Oh,
that's that's a cool little thing you got over there.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
You always want what your big brother has.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
You know, you can go and get some implants if
you want that.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Good Melissa and Andrews Farm, What happened to you when
you were a bridesmaid to do with a little bit
of booby cleavage?

Speaker 9 (10:36):
Good morning. Yeah, so I was a bridesmaid in a
wedding and my themes just made the dress way too
tight in my bust area. And by the end of
the night, the groom made quite an awkward comment to
me and he said thank you for bringing the twins along.
And my fiance at the time literally looked at each

(10:58):
other and we didn't know what to say, or we
were just stunned.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Say that's a wrong comment. That's the ick. You just
crossed the line with the eat comment, especially from the room.

Speaker 9 (11:09):
Yeah, and I already felt self conscious enough because not
like I'm quite heavy chested, I guess, so you know,
I already knew dress were there. I was boob glued
into this dress and everything. So it made me feel
quite more self conscious than what I Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I don't understand is all of you women that
had them out on Saturday night, which was spending the
whole night worried about them.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
They were falling, and we don't want the whole thing out.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
We don't want any uncomfortable because you're adjusting your dresses
the whole time, and you were annoying.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
You were worried about the entire night about your tape.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And then we had people on our table who had
strapless and they just kept like pull them up.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
We're all in the bathroom checking each other out and
helping them.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
LIAMB in Parallewi, what do you reckon? I reckon?

Speaker 6 (11:56):
They absolutely love the attention.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Please, what was that?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
LIAMB?

Speaker 10 (12:03):
You're still talking about it days later?

Speaker 3 (12:05):
These guys brought it up, mate, not me.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I understand what leans. There has to be an element
of the attention is nice.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
It has to be okay.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Like I've said before, if especially if you're a mum
and you've had babies and you feel like not confident
within your body, if someone says something or you look
really good, they look great, then that's like, oh, that's
really nice because I feel really gross about myself.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
But how do I know where.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
We're so different, we're so wide differently that we don't
go out and sexualize everything.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
It's just part of us by other men.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
No, I don't think I am desired by other men.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
I don't think of that.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
No, I've got my husband. I love my husband. I
would never even know you can still look at you
from I don't think anyone does. Okay, Grace in North Adelaide.

Speaker 10 (12:47):
What do you think I'm with Hailey on this. I
think if you've got it flaunted, you want some photos
of yourself looking hot before you've lost all elasticity in
your eighties. Yeah, and guys just keep it yourselves. You know,
no one comments when you're walking around in grace sweatpans.
Everything has to be sexualized.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah, but do you look grace not because yeah.

Speaker 10 (13:07):
But in the same way you look Just because it's
in front of you. Doesn't mean you have to comment
and be creepy your friends.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
No, So no one should say anything about anything they
see on the other person and just purely say you
look nice in general?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Is that what we're.

Speaker 10 (13:25):
Runtch out a bit beyond that, but don't you know,
don't be leary and creepy about it.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
So you're not creepy though, Max, I can say that
as a friend. You can say stuff and you're not
a creepy guy, right, And same with you.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
But they're both the same.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
But it's from the outsides people who you don't know,
those secondary guys in your life don't say anything.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Would you call them out?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Like if someone if you saw someone looking at him
and you're like, I don't know who you are, I
just walk away.
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