July 20, 2025 • 9 mins
Have you ever been misjudged? In this hilarious and revealing moment, host Max admits he has "resting bitch personality" and didn't make the best first impression on new producer Bella.
Max and Bella explain the awkward misunderstanding that led Bella to think Max disliked her when she first started. Digital producer McNally also chimes in to say he has felt the same coldness from Max.
After some wine-fueled truth-telling, Max realizes he comes across as standoffish and uninterested when he first meets people, even though that's not his intention. His contrasting dynamic with the "most personal person in the world" co-host Hailey doesn't help either.
Max is making an effort to be more open, while Bella and McNally admit they now know Max better and like him. But the lesson remains: be aware of the vibe you give off to new people. You may come across as rude or aloof without meaning to.
2:23 - Bella reveals thinking Max hated her at first
5:12 - Evidence Max isn't engaged in conversations
7:45 - McNally felt the same about Max
9:30 - Max admits to "resting bitch personality"
12:45 - Max contrasts with Hailey's warm personality
15:30 - Resolution and lessons learned
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I heard podcasts here more Mix one or two point
three podcasts, playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Weld Famous. Thank you Keith Urban.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We are doing the colleague edition this week of the
Wall of Truth.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, so every day one of us has to answer
a deeply personal question. This week it is from our
colleagues here at oh I just say friends, not colleagues,
but our colleagues here at Mix one O two point three.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yep, Bella producer.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Bella's in the studio with us, Hellebella and Bella's just
coming hot. Would you like to give you give me
your question again?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Max?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
What did you learn about yourself recently at work?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And it is a loaded question and I know why
she's asked it because she's involved in this. So Bella
and I and Burjo and one of Burgo's mates went
out to dinner a week or two ago after a
game of footy, and we were sitting there and like
we'd had a few drinks and we'd had a few
serves of Kunk Power Chicken.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Out.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The things were going nicely, and we started talking about
when Bella first came over here to be our producer
six seven months ago now and Bella's moved over here
from Sydney.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
She knows no one. This is the group that she
is assimilating with. It's us.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And Bella revealed to me maybe because of all of
the green peppercorn chicken that we've been eating, that she's like,
I thought you hated me when I first came in.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I thought that you weren't very warm at all.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Did that surprise you, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So this is the thing that I've learned about myself
to answer the question, is that you have people have
resting bitch face. I have resting bitch personality, and I
don't mean it. I don't mean it like I get
to meet a lot of people in this job and
my job at Channel ten, and it's awesome and I
(02:08):
meet them all time, and I will admit I'm atrocious
with names. Takes me ages to remember a name, but
I don't want to. I am interested in these people.
But clearly, I mean Bella can shed some louder. I
obviously don't put across that I am interested in people.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Max is just all on the body language.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What does he do?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So tell me about tell everyone why you said what
you said?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
The very first day.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
So firstly I did get on the wines of truth
here and I sort of like just really threw Max
and the deep and going.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I thought you hated me and Bella loves the dry wire.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I so I got a bit a bit relaxed. I'm like,
you know what, I'm just gonna let him have it.
So first day I meet Max comes in, it's just
sort of that really closed off body language, so like
he does like the very very formal greeting of hello,
like you know, I'm Bella, this is Max, all that
sort of thing. And then it's just no follow up
questions about my life. I'm not a single follow up,
(03:03):
Like this man had no interest in getting to.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Know me at all.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
And I was like, all right, it's going to be
very much going like I'm a producer and here's my
host relationship.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Nothing is that true, mate.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But you know, I don't think that at all. No,
I you know, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I know, I've never thought that you don't like me.
But I can see I.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Can see how you might come across.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Can I say one thing that happened last night that
kind of backs up your theory, Bella.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
We were all on a group chat last night to plan.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Today's show, and we were all interacting and engaging with
each other, but you were playing a video game the
whole time.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I forgot, to be honest, I completely forgot that the
chat was on, and I had started a game that
went for twenty five minutes online and I couldn't stop
it because I was baying with my friend, So I
was half So you didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Realize that that might come across as a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, Oh, no, I knew that it did. But you
all know me well enough now to know that like you,
So it's okay.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
True.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But for someone that's new to the situation, they would think, oh,
he doesn't like me, a'bsolute.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
There's another person in the studio who's had potentially the
same feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Digital Gy McNally's here too, Hey mc.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Now Hey, guys, yea the pylon mate, Yeah, let's pilon.
I would probably feel the same way. I think still, yeah,
like a little bit, I would say, over the last
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
We've known you for like a year and a half,
I know, but I.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Feel like we haven't spoken for more than maybe a
minute or two at any given time.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I speak to anyone for a minute or two at
any given time. This is the thing I think I
give off such an impression if you're like, you know
what I suffer from. I suffer from working with Hailey Pearson,
the most personal person in the world.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Oh, and like it's a bad thing. It is such
a start contrast.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You come in and you light up a room, and
I come in and I go, it's five o'clock in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't want to be here. No one wants to
be here. You suck the soul out of a room.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I don't want to be here either, mate.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Thank you for that. I appreciate it. I don't mean it.
And I'm glad Bella that you know now that i'd
like to clarify Max and Bella we're good.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, thank you. And it looks like I've got some
work to do with mcnaw. We're going to get there, buddy,
all right. Thirty one two three.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We want to take calls off of this resting bee face,
resting bee personality.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
When it's come back to you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Know what, it can happen if you're shy. I always
worry if someone's shy, he comes across as the rude.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They a lovely person, but it can come across in
the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Of course, one or two sweet give us through. We've
got some stuff to give away. We sure do give
us a call thirteen one or two three. We'll tee
you about that X.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Everyone at work thinks Max hates him, hates them because
of your personality. You come across sometimes when you meet
people to be a little stand offish, a bit aloof
and people think maybe he.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Doesn't like me.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, and I am learning that I give people that
impression because we're in the Wall of Truth at the moment,
and the Colleague edition of The Wall of Truth, where
producer Bella has come in and said, what did you
learn about yourself recently?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was a loaded question.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
She knows what I learned because she told me to
my face that when she first came here.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
She's like, I didn't think you liked me at all?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Did you not know this? Is this the first time
you're kind of finding this out?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I know that I don't come across as like you,
where everyone comes away from a meeting with you or
my mother and they're just like, oh my god, so friendly.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Bum is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, And I know that people don't go away from
meeting me saying that they do live.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Your wife is, Yeah, I just don't want it to
be the opposite, because I don't dislike everyone that I meet.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
No, you're just more visy, resting face.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah about trying a little bit harder, though I could
try harder. Yeah, but you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You have to. You have to ask people about themselves.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, well I think that it's yeah, even I'm not
doing it intentionally. I need to work on some things.
Get someone they help me out with that. Okay, But
at the moment, I'm glad to know that I'm thirty
one or two three, I'm not the only one. Yes,
Beverly and glenelg has called in. Beverly, good morning, you
experience the same sort of issue that I do.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Good morning, Max. You are my brother from another mother.
We are twins. Baby. Honestly, I heard that, and I've
it just hit me in my stomach. I've never heard
myself described in another person, and mine is not a
resting bitch. They actually have a little sign on my forehead,
the second word being off. I didn't realize that I
(07:12):
had this I've walked frond my entire life. You know,
my daughter went to primary school and it took seven years.
And on the you know, the final day, we all
had dinner together and the women were rude to me.
They were not nice. And then so I was sitting
having dinning and then this, of course, you know, this
lovely side of me comes out and they went, oh
my god, actually really nice. She come across this like hating.
(07:34):
So that's why we never invited.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Is it that you don't want to say much?
Speaker 8 (07:39):
I'll have to say, Look, there's a side to me
that I am shy and probably insecure. I'm happiest in
a room with you know, maybe ten dogs and a
couple of Mary's or something. I like, not saying I
don't like him, and lovely is a lot going on
in my head. But I never realized that it was
like in stone on my face. And you've got to
(08:02):
change it, buddy, got to go to amp it up,
because it's a long time there. And it's really stuff
that even said to myself today because I'm sitting at
gym out in the car park. I mean this gym
for four months and I said hello to someone last week.
I see the same people every day, and someone said
hello to me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It was like the same and there are so many
people like us out.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
There by extra hard. Thank you so much, Beverly.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
You're welcome to have a great day, and she is friendly.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
When you can't do it, Oh, Sharon, Hi, Hi?
Speaker 7 (08:38):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Sharon? Do you relate to this?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
I can run late so badly. I have one of
those faces. I always I feel like I'm Haley all
the time, but I think I come across as Mac.
It is some days I can just be, you know,
like in my own middle world and doing going about.
The people say what's wrong with you? And I go what?
And they go what are you looking like that?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
For?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
What? What have I done? It changed your face? Sharon?
Speaker 7 (09:07):
If that is to do, I don't know I'm doing
walking around with a mask on some days that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Smile to smile more like do the big double teeth
smile like I do.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
I was going to say, well, I can walk around that.
People say to me, what are you being so sarcastic for?
And I'm like, God, I'm just living.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You can't.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
I can't win. I've got one of those faces that
just manages to irritate people even when I think I'm
not well.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know what, Sharon, we have some good news.
I heard podcasts here more Mix one or two point
three podcasts, playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Weld Famous. Thank you Keith Urban.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We are doing the colleague edition this week of the
Wall of Truth.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, so every day one of us has to answer
a deeply personal question. This week it is from our
colleagues here at oh I just say friends, not colleagues,
but our colleagues here at Mix one O two point three.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yep, Bella producer.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Bella's in the studio with us, Hellebella and Bella's just
coming hot. Would you like to give you give me
your question again?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Max?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
What did you learn about yourself recently at work?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And it is a loaded question and I know why
she's asked it because she's involved in this. So Bella
and I and Burjo and one of Burgo's mates went
out to dinner a week or two ago after a
game of footy, and we were sitting there and like
we'd had a few drinks and we'd had a few
serves of Kunk Power Chicken.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Out.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The things were going nicely, and we started talking about
when Bella first came over here to be our producer
six seven months ago now and Bella's moved over here
from Sydney.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
She knows no one. This is the group that she
is assimilating with. It's us.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
And Bella revealed to me maybe because of all of
the green peppercorn chicken that we've been eating, that she's like,
I thought you hated me when I first came in.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I thought that you weren't very warm at all.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Did that surprise you, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
A little bit.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So this is the thing that I've learned about myself
to answer the question, is that you have people have
resting bitch face. I have resting bitch personality, and I
don't mean it. I don't mean it like I get
to meet a lot of people in this job and
my job at Channel ten, and it's awesome and I
(02:08):
meet them all time, and I will admit I'm atrocious
with names. Takes me ages to remember a name, but
I don't want to. I am interested in these people.
But clearly, I mean Bella can shed some louder. I
obviously don't put across that I am interested in people.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Max is just all on the body language.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
What does he do?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
So tell me about tell everyone why you said what
you said?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
The very first day.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
So firstly I did get on the wines of truth
here and I sort of like just really threw Max
and the deep and going.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I thought you hated me and Bella loves the dry wire.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
I so I got a bit a bit relaxed. I'm like,
you know what, I'm just gonna let him have it.
So first day I meet Max comes in, it's just
sort of that really closed off body language, so like
he does like the very very formal greeting of hello,
like you know, I'm Bella, this is Max, all that
sort of thing. And then it's just no follow up
questions about my life. I'm not a single follow up,
(03:03):
Like this man had no interest in getting to.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Know me at all.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
And I was like, all right, it's going to be
very much going like I'm a producer and here's my
host relationship.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Nothing is that true, mate.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
But you know, I don't think that at all. No,
I you know, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I know, I've never thought that you don't like me.
But I can see I.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Can see how you might come across.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Can I say one thing that happened last night that
kind of backs up your theory, Bella.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
We were all on a group chat last night to plan.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Today's show, and we were all interacting and engaging with
each other, but you were playing a video game the
whole time.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I forgot, to be honest, I completely forgot that the
chat was on, and I had started a game that
went for twenty five minutes online and I couldn't stop
it because I was baying with my friend, So I
was half So you didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Realize that that might come across as a little bit.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Like, Oh, no, I knew that it did. But you
all know me well enough now to know that like you,
So it's okay.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
True.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But for someone that's new to the situation, they would think, oh,
he doesn't like me, a'bsolute.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
There's another person in the studio who's had potentially the
same feeling.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Digital Gy McNally's here too, Hey mc.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Now Hey, guys, yea the pylon mate, Yeah, let's pilon.
I would probably feel the same way. I think still, yeah,
like a little bit, I would say, over the last
couple of years.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
We've known you for like a year and a half,
I know, but I.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Feel like we haven't spoken for more than maybe a
minute or two at any given time.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
I speak to anyone for a minute or two at
any given time. This is the thing I think I
give off such an impression if you're like, you know
what I suffer from. I suffer from working with Hailey Pearson,
the most personal person in the world.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Oh, and like it's a bad thing. It is such
a start contrast.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You come in and you light up a room, and
I come in and I go, it's five o'clock in
the morning.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't want to be here. No one wants to
be here. You suck the soul out of a room.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I don't want to be here either, mate.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Thank you for that. I appreciate it. I don't mean it.
And I'm glad Bella that you know now that i'd
like to clarify Max and Bella we're good.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, thank you. And it looks like I've got some
work to do with mcnaw. We're going to get there, buddy,
all right. Thirty one two three.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
We want to take calls off of this resting bee face,
resting bee personality.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
When it's come back to you.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Know what, it can happen if you're shy. I always
worry if someone's shy, he comes across as the rude.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But it's not.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
They a lovely person, but it can come across in
the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Of course, one or two sweet give us through. We've
got some stuff to give away. We sure do give
us a call thirteen one or two three. We'll tee
you about that X.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Everyone at work thinks Max hates him, hates them because
of your personality. You come across sometimes when you meet
people to be a little stand offish, a bit aloof
and people think maybe he.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Doesn't like me.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, and I am learning that I give people that
impression because we're in the Wall of Truth at the moment,
and the Colleague edition of The Wall of Truth, where
producer Bella has come in and said, what did you
learn about yourself recently?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
It was a loaded question.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
She knows what I learned because she told me to
my face that when she first came here.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
She's like, I didn't think you liked me at all?
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Did you not know this? Is this the first time
you're kind of finding this out?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I know that I don't come across as like you,
where everyone comes away from a meeting with you or
my mother and they're just like, oh my god, so friendly.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Bum is beautiful.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, And I know that people don't go away from
meeting me saying that they do live.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Your wife is, Yeah, I just don't want it to
be the opposite, because I don't dislike everyone that I meet.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
No, you're just more visy, resting face.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yeah about trying a little bit harder, though I could
try harder. Yeah, but you don't want to.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You have to. You have to ask people about themselves.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Yeah, well I think that it's yeah, even I'm not
doing it intentionally. I need to work on some things.
Get someone they help me out with that. Okay, But
at the moment, I'm glad to know that I'm thirty
one or two three, I'm not the only one. Yes,
Beverly and glenelg has called in. Beverly, good morning, you
experience the same sort of issue that I do.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
Good morning, Max. You are my brother from another mother.
We are twins. Baby. Honestly, I heard that, and I've
it just hit me in my stomach. I've never heard
myself described in another person, and mine is not a
resting bitch. They actually have a little sign on my forehead,
the second word being off. I didn't realize that I
(07:12):
had this I've walked frond my entire life. You know,
my daughter went to primary school and it took seven years.
And on the you know, the final day, we all
had dinner together and the women were rude to me.
They were not nice. And then so I was sitting
having dinning and then this, of course, you know, this
lovely side of me comes out and they went, oh
my god, actually really nice. She come across this like hating.
(07:34):
So that's why we never invited.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
Is it that you don't want to say much?
Speaker 8 (07:39):
I'll have to say, Look, there's a side to me
that I am shy and probably insecure. I'm happiest in
a room with you know, maybe ten dogs and a
couple of Mary's or something. I like, not saying I
don't like him, and lovely is a lot going on
in my head. But I never realized that it was
like in stone on my face. And you've got to
(08:02):
change it, buddy, got to go to amp it up,
because it's a long time there. And it's really stuff
that even said to myself today because I'm sitting at
gym out in the car park. I mean this gym
for four months and I said hello to someone last week.
I see the same people every day, and someone said
hello to me.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It was like the same and there are so many
people like us out.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
There by extra hard. Thank you so much, Beverly.
Speaker 8 (08:30):
You're welcome to have a great day, and she is friendly.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
When you can't do it, Oh, Sharon, Hi, Hi?
Speaker 7 (08:38):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Sharon? Do you relate to this?
Speaker 7 (08:42):
I can run late so badly. I have one of
those faces. I always I feel like I'm Haley all
the time, but I think I come across as Mac.
It is some days I can just be, you know,
like in my own middle world and doing going about.
The people say what's wrong with you? And I go what?
And they go what are you looking like that?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
For?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
What? What have I done? It changed your face? Sharon?
Speaker 7 (09:07):
If that is to do, I don't know I'm doing
walking around with a mask on some days that.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Smile to smile more like do the big double teeth
smile like I do.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
I was going to say, well, I can walk around that.
People say to me, what are you being so sarcastic for?
And I'm like, God, I'm just living.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
You can't.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
I can't win. I've got one of those faces that
just manages to irritate people even when I think I'm
not well.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
You know what, Sharon, we have some good news.
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