March 21, 2023 • 26 mins
On the show today:
We find out more about Tracey and whether she'll risk her marriage and meet a man she met online.
For the first time we met Max's mum - and she had some dirt!
Xavier Duursma dropped by after a great start to the footy season.
And, Tech Guru Trevor Long tells us the best apps to use for affairs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi there, Ali Clark here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey, it's Max Burfect. Hey, Shane Low. I've come with
props today for the podcast What's going On?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I got a letter yesterday in the letterbox, handwritten, like
with a stamp on it and everything platypus stamp if
you don't mind to the resident, my address, et cetera,
et cetera. It has a return address on it and
everything all handwritten. But I was like, oh, so this
is to do with us, it's specifically about us.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's clearly a letterbox drop. I've gone around and done
to a few people, so I have handwritten all of
these things. It's from our good friends at the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh yes, but.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Beautiful script, and it's all about you know. I hope
this letter finds you safe and well.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's to invite you and your family to a special
event this time of year, the death and resurrection of
Lord Jesus Christ. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Where are they're having that? At the highway.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
The Kaba Yeah, top of the arcow nice yeah yeah,
no free entry for Noah's. But I did want to
say that while they are doing that. First of all,
it's just incredible dedication to Handwright.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
We actually got one of these not too long ago,
and I'm getting them quite regularly from But they're not
Jehovah's witness. It's a different group from us, but again handwritten,
lots of time and care taken in it and sent
out handwritten.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Second of all, they've clearly decided that the no junk
mail sticker in our leader box doesn't apply a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, it is a personal letter.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And the third thing was there was a little pamphlet
in it that is twenty twenty three Memorial of Jesus's death.
What can his sacrifice mean for you? Yes, but I
wanted to point out that, and Jesus am sure they'd
be thrilled. They've moved on too, QR codes. There are
now QR codes you can scan for more information, more
about the complets, to get more about the Lord and Savior.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, why wouldn't they be your right idea?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Jesus is progressive?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, well it depends which church you go to, I
think on that one. But all right, so other than that,
you just got bills? Can we expected tell Torow.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
This was all we got. This was the only thing.
So they've got two free events if you want to
head along. Guys, just let me know if either of
these interest you and I'll scan the code and IROs
VP for the special Bible talk you can face the
future with confidence, or just the memorial of Jesus Death.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Wow, what a smart way to get their message on
the radio.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
They've done really well.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
They've done it, So shout out to our friend mister witness.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Joe Jehovah is his first name.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
All right, Well, somebody somewhere is what sitting around in
a large group writing those letters?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Is that right? Handwriting?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I just I haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
When's the last time you hand wrote a letter?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Exactly the same I had? I did my vows two
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I typed them up. Goodness, I typed.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
My handwriting is atrocious? Okay, why would you handwrite anything
at a box?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Drop?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Handwrite written?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, when's the last time you hand wrote or wrote
a letter?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
I wrote a city to the other day, But to
be honest, about halfway from a and started to her,
you started to write one my signature.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
This was like, yeah, your signature.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
It's well, here's the thing about my signature. It's really
embarrassing because it's s and it's low. It's slow.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Do you want to know the other thing about your signature? Mate,
it's yours. You can make it whatever you want it
to be, so it doesn't have to be slow.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm going to change my signature, Shane Low.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I can't just have shame.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It could be s or Low and then like a
snake turned into a snake?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Do you think about this? Off?
Speaker 8 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Alright, enjoyed the podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Right. People were calling yesterday and it was all after
Tracy's email.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Now that was part of our should I stay or
should I Go?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Segment?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
But she basically had reached out to West because none
of her friends she felt like were her friend. She's
been with a hobby for twenty years, so all of
her mates are their mates. But at the moment, she's
really struggling, struggling in the relationship. She loves her husband,
loves her husband, she's got a couple of kids, but
she's just not feeling seen. She feels like she's completely lost.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, it's a little bit more than that. It's not
just the spark, it's.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Just and I think a lot of a lot of
my friends we talk about this, and you hear a
lot about this where you come out of maybe having
kids as a woman, especially not solely, but especially, and
you feel like you're jumping up and down.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You don't know who you are sure, and you don't
know who you are to.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Your partner anymore, and all that sort of stuff. So
she's basically not feeling seen nor heard. And last week
something snapped for her and she jumped onto Ashley Madison,
which is one of these sites that Shaney pointed out
as well.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
For people who are married and are in a relationship. You're
looking for a bit of something on the site.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Can I just not be coffee?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I'm really hoping anyway, Look, she started messaging this person
and he wanted to catch up for coffee. So she
was saying to us, look, well should we do it
or not?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Should we catch up for coffee or no? And you
guys wade in.
Speaker 9 (04:51):
She needs to end her marriage.
Speaker 10 (04:52):
She's already cheating.
Speaker 11 (04:54):
Go and have coffee.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's not a coffee the husband would be having coffee with.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
People at work.
Speaker 12 (05:00):
Go for it, and obviously the marriage has lost a
bit of spark. You know, we've all got needs.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I mean, you've got to feed.
Speaker 12 (05:04):
It's too far big grass, So you.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
Might as well go somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Have you not shown her any attention, go for it.
Speaker 12 (05:09):
Absolutely not cheating is cheating. She's not just going to
hurt her husband, She's going to hurt her children.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Sometimes just the attention, the flirtation improves your marriage.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Just getting that attention and feeling validated as a woman
and desirable, you can take that back into your relationship
or your marriage.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All right, And the calls kept coming.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
That was just a few of them, but you can
see on each side people were swinging wildly back and forth,
back and forth. Now, one other thing that became obvious
to us is that these apps, and a lot of
you are on them, right, even if it's like we
laugh with you Tinder, but you know a lot of
the people are on these dating apps.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I reached out to Tracy yesterday because you.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Had the email, and I've been emailing her back and
forth a little bit, mainly just to make sure she's okay,
because it's always really hard when you put yourself out
there and then you hear people weighing in as strongly
we appreciate it doing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And she still.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Hasn't decided what she's going to do. But we thought
what we might do next is get Australia's leading tech
expert Trevor Long on to talk about the safety in
and around this, because let's face it, if we're not
on these sites, then our mates are, or our kids
might start being you know, our older kids and whatever else.
So Trevolong is going to join us next to help
us out with a safety and around this and how
(06:23):
you should be dating or maybe setting out on a
new date on the internet. So Tracy has started chatting
to a bloke online and for her it was on
Ashley Madison, but he then wants to get off it
and get onto an encrypted app.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
So I'm not sure about.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Whether or not that's a safe thing to do. And
so many people are using these apps. Now, we thought
we'd get tech expert.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Trevor Long on Good Morning, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Okay, what are the ground rules that people should know
and be putting the most basic things in place to
make sure they are safe.
Speaker 11 (06:50):
Privacy is the most important thing in terms of safety,
So try and protect where you can your full identity,
so things like your email address or your phone number,
because that's why these apps have these chat functions, whether
it's you know the one you mentioned or Tinder or
whatever they are, they have their own messaging one because
they want you to stay in their platform, but two
because that's part of the safety mechanism. The longer you're there,
(07:12):
the more you can build up that relationship, get to
know that person before you then move to another place online,
which might be an encrypted app that is going to
require you handing over more than that app ever asked.
So in this example, moving to an encrypted app, and
I can understand the concept of it sounds a bit
(07:32):
daunting to say, let's move to an encrypted app. So
that just means that, you know what, no one can
intercept your messages, stop your partner from picking up your
phone and opening it up if they know your pass
code to be cleared.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
So does that mean then if someone is to stay
on Ashley madison side or any of these sites and
uses that chat mechanism, that those messages could actually be intercepted.
Speaker 11 (07:54):
Look, I actually don't know whether those apps are encrypted,
but I assume they're not. This is let's just talk
about the partner, let alone the person that's trying to
extort you, because you know, in this situation, the cheating situation,
it's I think the biggest concern would be the extortion
of you by someone wanting to hold it over you,
(08:14):
because you know, you don't want your husband to know.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
And Trevor, just on Tracy's defense, she's saying she only
wants to go for coffee, and I believe that the
boys don't.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But anyway.
Speaker 11 (08:22):
That in that case, why does he want the other person?
What does he want to get onto an encrypted app?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'll tell you why. I'll tell you. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Because on Ashley Madison, men have to pay to use
the chat function on the website.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's so dodgy.
Speaker 11 (08:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Wow, hey, Trevor, what are some examples of encrypted apps?
Like if someone we're not encouraging this, but if anyone
wanted to go down the encrypting path, you.
Speaker 11 (08:47):
Know what, there's there's heaps and you'd be surprised. Facebook
Messenger can be encrypted if he's got an iPhone. If
you're a blue Bubble message you know, and we know
if you're if you're a Green Bubble, you're using an
Android phone. But if you send someone at text from
an iPhone and it's a Blue Bubble, that's encrypted. WhatsApp
is also encrypted.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Trevor hypothetically if I so, if somebody wanted to cheat
on their partners, yeah, somebody, what would the best app
be to do that?
Speaker 11 (09:16):
It sounds like Ashley Madison to be honest, and I think, look,
I think the thing is where there's so many apps
tend to bumble all these different things that are out
there for meeting people. It's just that Asley Madison as
an example, is essentially the right demographic. You know, you're
already isolating all those other awkward questions of yes, I've
got a partner. So that's the simplest way to go.
(09:36):
And then I personally think, what's happened to be the
perfect solution that it can My wife and I know
each other's PASCO to get into our phones. You want
to have a burner phone for this trace, that's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's only coffee.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It is only coffee. I don't know, man, I'm.
Speaker 11 (09:54):
Pretty sure husband's not going to be happy with that.
Stick to the app and meet for coffee.
Speaker 12 (09:58):
Let's keep it.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Simple, much trev Thank you very much. You are Australia's
leading tech expert. Now you can actually find out more
at EFTM dot com.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Thanks Trevor, we'll touch you again soon, cheers any cop.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So I am going back and forth with Tracy and
just emailing her, and we've started up a bit of
a e relationship I think, or a conversation at least,
and she's happy to take your questions too.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So what do you want to ask? What do you
want to say to her?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Maybe more to the point, get to us now in
eight three hundred one O two three, and I'll certainly
be passing that on to her.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And yeah, she hasn't made a decision or.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
What she's going to do.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I guess we'll see what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
We've had follow on from Tracy who contacted us and
emailed us yesterday about this whole idea that she's been
with Abby for twenty years but just feeling really.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Unseen and something snaps.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So she got onto a website and started having a
conversation online with a gentleman who wants to meet her
for coffee. And I just touched base with her yesterday
and just wanted to make sure she was okay because
everybody had such strong opinions about it. And so we're
going back and forth and I'm asking you, right, what
do you want to know, what do you want to
say to.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Her or ask her?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Tory from Ashton, what question do you want me to
put to Tracy for you?
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Good morning? I think the most important question you need
to ask her is has she sat down with her
husband and had that conversation and told him how she
feels because he might be totally ignorant of the fact
that she even feels like that soap in his bubble
of his marriage. And then next minute she's saying, well, look,
I've met this other guy and all of a sudden,
(11:28):
I feel fantastic and bye bye marriage, and that's where
it could go. So I really think she needs to
take a step back and sit down and have a
chat to him.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Okay, thanks Tory, and keep them coming through A three
hundred and one two three clear from Howlett Cove.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What do you think, Look, life.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
Is too short having a coffee with someone is I mean,
I'm married and I have coffee with male friends. I
mean it depends on what what she's actually looking for,
And I mean I guess my question is what is
what is she attracted to with this guy? I mean,
what does he look like? I mean, does she does
(12:06):
she have information? Other than just a conversation. And I
agree with the last lady. I mean, you've got to
have good communication, whether it's your partner, your husband, and
if there's no communication on his end, then she's obviously
looking for something somewhere else. But that doesn't mean she's
a bad person or that she's a cheater. I mean
(12:27):
people shouldn't really be judging, you know. I mean, I
know everyone's an opinions, but you know, we all don't
live into the glasshouses where we point fingers without really
knowing all the information.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I know exactly that saying you're trying to get to Claire,
We're with you, Sharon of Woodcroft. All right, what's your
question for Tracy?
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Yeah? Has she considered going and speaking to a counselor
or a psychologist try and really figure out what it
is actually that happened for her son. She doesn't have
a life outside of her marriaging kids, and that might.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Be part of what this is about driving her.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Yeah, and maybe they can help her with how to
have the conversation with her husband as well.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, but I give up on what you've got.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Lucy from West Beach, what do you think? What question
do you want.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I guess my.
Speaker 12 (13:21):
Question to Tracy is is she prepared for the consequences
and fall out of this.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
There's kids involved in this too.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, okay, thanks Lucy, Danny A. Blair Athole, what
question do you have for Tracy?
Speaker 12 (13:37):
I think without the full back we don't have to
worry about that. But why why did she choose him?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Like?
Speaker 11 (13:42):
What what got hot under the collar for this guy?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
What was it about him?
Speaker 11 (13:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (13:48):
What what?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What?
Speaker 9 (13:48):
What was?
Speaker 11 (13:49):
Why did she choose this fellow? That's what I want to.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Know, all right, Danny, Look, I'll keep emailing, we chatting,
and like I said, she hasn't made up her decision,
and yeah, we'll go back and forth and always, as
always make sure she's okay. Normally I ask you, guys,
what are you doing for the rest of the day.
But I want to tell you what I'm doing because.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I've got mail.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
God, that noise gives me so much hanks.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I hate hearing that before.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's because everything on your computer's turned down and you
just pretend it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But there are these things called emails.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Shamee, Tracy's emailed me the Tracy yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
So this is the Tracey. We've been talking about last
couple of days because she reached out and she was
married and you know, loves her husband, but is just
feeling completely lost in it, and so just something snapped.
So she got on Ashley Madison and this guy wants
to meet her for coffee. You we said this morning,
(14:44):
you know, do you have any questions for her? People
were saying, well, I want to know if she's spoken
to her hubby and told him that she's struggling.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Has she spoken to a counselor about this?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And another person wanted to know what made Tracy choose
this particular bloke.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, Tracy has.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Emailed me and looks like she might have made a decision.
So I can't talk about it right now because I
want to go through and ask these questions of her.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But we'll come back to my own.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Let you know, she's decided on whether or not she's
going to see the bike.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And have a coffee.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I hope she does. Yeah you do, Yeah do it? Trace,
don't do it.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Just be safe about it, make sure you tell someone
week in to be before you do it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
But yes, do it.
Speaker 13 (15:21):
Coming from mister Tinder.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Joining us now is the awesome Xavier from Port Adelaide
forty club.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Look at you up and about after a big win.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
You should be yes, it was. It was a very
exciting weekend.
Speaker 14 (15:51):
We had a fair win and now we've just got
to try and obviously enjoy that which we have.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
And now I've got to try and keep it going.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
After you have that win round one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I know it's a Saturday night, and I know you
have like six or seven days to the next game,
but don't you just want to go and sit in
the chain room and just have six beers with all
of the team.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Had a couple after the game with the boys, which
was very good. We do it.
Speaker 14 (16:15):
We tried to after our wins to try and stay
in there for a good ten to fifty minutes, just
the players, the coaches, all the boys and they're both teams,
and then just enjoy each other's company. Before we even
we have our family and our friends come into the
rooms after the game. We try and just stay in
there for the for a good ten fifty minutes just
to enjoy it, soak it in and then go obviously
do our media or our family, friends, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But it is exciting, it's a good feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
What did can Hinckley say, because I need this in
my life to go from being.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
So far behind time.
Speaker 14 (16:45):
Yeah, yeah, so it was it was basically telling us,
obviously we're giving a lot of a lot of free
kicks away in the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
When you're saying telling, yelling.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, get angry, it does.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You can, Yeah, you can get quite angry.
Speaker 14 (16:59):
But I think at the same time, it's high pressure job,
so it's very yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, but it seemed to work.
Speaker 14 (17:04):
And yeah we came out in that third quarter and yeah,
second half of spose and play some really really good footage.
But yeah, obviously that's second called we gave away a
lot of free kicks. Are very unsciplined, so he ripped
us a new one in terms of, you know, our
humility about doing the right things, doing the team things,
and then also not winging. I felt for a few
of us, myself included, I was winging about umpire free
kicks and stuff.
Speaker 13 (17:25):
Did you come off the field going you didn't get
that one?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Or did you see that?
Speaker 14 (17:28):
Unputs a little bit of that more like in the
moment my hands arms in the air and going.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
You know, like oh, you know, it was twenty one
to three at one point the free kick count.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, it's hard not to get that, that's.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Right, it's hard.
Speaker 14 (17:39):
But then once we I think, once we brought it
back to you know, focusing on our actual job at hand,
and you know, not getting the emotion over.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Those three kicks, we seem to Yeah, is it a.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Funny sight to see Ken look up at Charlie Dixon
who's just given away one hundred meter penalty in a
goal and see like the height difference and have Ken
baking Charlie.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, your little.
Speaker 14 (18:00):
Funny songs with just saying like he's looking up and
like twenty things, et cetera. But yeah, I think obviously, yeah,
I think it worked because Holie played an amazingly.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
So now you're a young lad around the clubs right now.
You you've got a partner, yes, but there's plenty of
boys I imagine that would be on the apps these days,
or a couple. We have people slide and into the dms.
We've got Tracy who well she's married, but she's got
onto one of these apps and the bloke's.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Asking her if she should go for a coffee.
Speaker 14 (18:31):
It's just a coffee, right, Yeah, No, if this was
if this was me, I would definitely be not doing it.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
All right, mate, we have another job for you, that's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
X marks the spot.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
This is where because you have the famous bow and
arrow celebration, we want you to put a bow and
arrow through the hardest someone every week.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
All right, So who are you taking?
Speaker 14 (19:01):
This is not more a person but just a holistic one.
I'm going to put one through the advertiser just to
this week getting the Jason Horn Francis and.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
The front front page.
Speaker 14 (19:15):
I think it's pretty easy to to kind of get
the just get just get you just get your app up.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
On your phone.
Speaker 14 (19:21):
You'll be able to, you know, scroll for the players
on the team list and stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I don't think I don't think.
Speaker 14 (19:25):
It's too hard there. But at the same time, all
the boys to get a good laugh out of it.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
So have you been calling Jason, Miles and Miles Jason a.
Speaker 14 (19:32):
Few people at the club, and Ken's been doing that,
you know, saying that given again if you last out
of it. I laughed at once or twice and then
just got kind of.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Old up of that.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
So it was pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
The way they came out. They said, even fans get
the mixed up and too completely.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Get the mixed out when you're out there, mate, No,
all right, well.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Good luck for the weekend. Who are you playing?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
And when Collingwood Saturday afternoon? Looking forward to m c G.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I love that you're not wait and let us know
if can rich your new one.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Don't swear at those umpires, all right? Raising your heads?
Speaker 14 (20:08):
Yeah, you keep my ads down and frustraters might get
keep them down in the Dutch trance.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Were good luck today?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh? Max came in with the little bottom lip out
this morning.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was not happy.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It looks like there's been a bit of fallout from
the wedding.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Well, I thought, I mean, you've asked me how it's gone,
and everyone asked me it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Everything went so well.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But what happened last night?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I get a message from my mother and she said, Hey,
remember those two little plastic sort of flowers we buried
in your lapelom. Your grandfather had them in his lapel
flower when he got married Your dad did?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You did, and you were being so stylish you hid
them behind the other big flowers.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I had a beautiful big bros there and they were
in there. It was sentimental more than to show off. Yeah,
And I was like, I do remember them? She said,
do you have I'm still and I said I don't
think I do. Yes, Yep, I have. I remember taking
(21:12):
it off, and oh my.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
God, this is so exciting.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Finally, Max's life is a hot.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Mess, and I feel we've got to make some milage
of this. Let's ring Mamma Burford.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Have you met her?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Spoken to her.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Let's get Meg on the phone.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Mama.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
She's She'll accept that she's lovely.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
She is, I'm sure of it.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's the other I think it's an absolute lack of
respect that Max Burford has Houston treated one of the
most precious family heirlooms that you have on your mom's side.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Right, Yep, it was too little.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I had two of them.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That turns out there's a whole little bunch of them,
but two little plastic flowers. They were in my lapel
for my wedding.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
They were on my suit. I had them pinned to
the suits.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And your grandfather had them.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Grandfather had them in his wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Dad had them in his wedding. I had them in mine.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And my mother sent me a message last night saying, hey,
do you still have those and I said, I think
I threw them out with the lapel on the night.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Now let's go to your Shane Howard.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Mam Aloe Reactually she would hate me forever.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
In fact, I never hit the end of it.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Every day, like how she would make a joke about
how those flowers I know mine mum.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
Would be so passive aggressive about it, like she would
be ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Why don't we find out and meet for the very
first time, Mama Burford, Meg, good morning.
Speaker 12 (22:39):
Good Morning's love to meet you.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
God is it has your son completely ruined the family lineage,
the family heirloom, ruined the memories of your beautiful father.
Speaker 12 (22:52):
Well, honestly, I was round at my mother's about two
weeks before the wedding and helping because my mother's quite frail,
and I was helping her clean out some things and
found all of this that you know, I was in
a little bundle and thought, oh, that'll be nice to
be beautiful. So, you know, so we did. And I'm
(23:12):
almost kicking myself because I kept thinking, I must text Max,
I must text Max, you know, keep that, keep that.
And they were in the bundle, but the other bundles
gone missing as well, and I don't see.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
This is where I get a bit of a let off.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So all of them are gone.
Speaker 12 (23:28):
Everything's gone. So I'm keep thinking of my poor George.
If he gets married my brother, what am I going
to give him? Anyway, We'll work.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
That out when we get there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
So we had another bundle like it was yeah to twenty.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Try to share the blame.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, I'm very, I am sad. I am sad, I am.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I was walking around last night. I was flipping all
of the suits upside down. I was, and Eliza's just like,
what's wrong. It's just like I think I've lost those
many little flowers.
Speaker 12 (24:00):
My response was, you know, like very You know, it
was all text messages and a little kiss doing no kisses.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Call her and she didn't pick up the phone, and
I was like, one, she's angry at me, or two
she's dead. So I had to send Dad a message
and be like, is mum okay?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And that would have made this heirloom even more.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Oh my god, I was so flat.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So it sounds like you've forgiven him in the space
of a sleep.
Speaker 12 (24:29):
So oh well, you know, I do blame myself as well.
I should have, you know, made that so obvious to
everybody that let's keep this, this is precious.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But I think the fact you said it was a
family heirloom and it was in your dad's. But look, okay,
so our Max is a little shining light.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Isn't he?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
For us?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Like he's never done anything wrong in all of his
life growing up there with you.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Did he ever put a foot out of place?
Speaker 12 (24:55):
Be careful, mum, I'm sure there were a few feet
out of place over the years.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Did he get in trouble?
Speaker 11 (25:05):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (25:05):
I can remember one instance where one of his teachers
sort of laughed when she told me that he used
to walk into French and push the chairs off the table.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Ah, it's because we had French.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
We were the first class in the morning and all
the chairs get put up on the table at the
end of the.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Day, so and so instead of you placing them underneath
like a normal person.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You even Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So in our years old French, there was like seven
of us in the class. No one took it, so
there's thirty chairs on tables. So we would walk in,
seven of us and just absolutely push everything all over
the God.
Speaker 12 (25:48):
I heard it was him.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I see what I love the generally. When you said
that story, I thought, how old were you going to
beat nine?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (26:00):
At the end, old enough to know better.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Exactly, all right, Meg, No kisses for Max for the
rest of the day, alright, and I'm thinking of it.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
It's been an absolute delight hearing you and meeting you, Mamma, perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Thanks Mom, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Eighty seven thirty one. It's the only clock breakfast show
on mixed
Hi there, Ali Clark here.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey, it's Max Burfect. Hey, Shane Low. I've come with
props today for the podcast What's going On?
Speaker 3 (00:07):
I got a letter yesterday in the letterbox, handwritten, like
with a stamp on it and everything platypus stamp if
you don't mind to the resident, my address, et cetera,
et cetera. It has a return address on it and
everything all handwritten. But I was like, oh, so this
is to do with us, it's specifically about us.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's clearly a letterbox drop. I've gone around and done
to a few people, so I have handwritten all of
these things. It's from our good friends at the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Oh yes, but.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Beautiful script, and it's all about you know. I hope
this letter finds you safe and well.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's to invite you and your family to a special
event this time of year, the death and resurrection of
Lord Jesus Christ. YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Where are they're having that? At the highway.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
The Kaba Yeah, top of the arcow nice yeah yeah,
no free entry for Noah's. But I did want to
say that while they are doing that. First of all,
it's just incredible dedication to Handwright.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
We actually got one of these not too long ago,
and I'm getting them quite regularly from But they're not
Jehovah's witness. It's a different group from us, but again handwritten,
lots of time and care taken in it and sent
out handwritten.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Second of all, they've clearly decided that the no junk
mail sticker in our leader box doesn't apply a bit.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, it is a personal letter.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And the third thing was there was a little pamphlet
in it that is twenty twenty three Memorial of Jesus's death.
What can his sacrifice mean for you? Yes, but I
wanted to point out that, and Jesus am sure they'd
be thrilled. They've moved on too, QR codes. There are
now QR codes you can scan for more information, more
about the complets, to get more about the Lord and Savior.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, why wouldn't they be your right idea?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Jesus is progressive?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, well it depends which church you go to, I
think on that one. But all right, so other than that,
you just got bills? Can we expected tell Torow.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
This was all we got. This was the only thing.
So they've got two free events if you want to
head along. Guys, just let me know if either of
these interest you and I'll scan the code and IROs
VP for the special Bible talk you can face the
future with confidence, or just the memorial of Jesus Death.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Wow, what a smart way to get their message on
the radio.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
They've done really well.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
They've done it, So shout out to our friend mister witness.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Joe Jehovah is his first name.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
All right, Well, somebody somewhere is what sitting around in
a large group writing those letters?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Is that right? Handwriting?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I just I haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
When's the last time you hand wrote a letter?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Exactly the same I had? I did my vows two
weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I typed them up. Goodness, I typed.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
My handwriting is atrocious? Okay, why would you handwrite anything
at a box?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Drop?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Handwrite written?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, when's the last time you hand wrote or wrote
a letter?
Speaker 7 (02:57):
I wrote a city to the other day, But to
be honest, about halfway from a and started to her,
you started to write one my signature.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
This was like, yeah, your signature.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
It's well, here's the thing about my signature. It's really
embarrassing because it's s and it's low. It's slow.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Do you want to know the other thing about your signature? Mate,
it's yours. You can make it whatever you want it
to be, so it doesn't have to be slow.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm going to change my signature, Shane Low.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I can't just have shame.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
It could be s or Low and then like a
snake turned into a snake?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Do you think about this? Off?
Speaker 8 (03:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Alright, enjoyed the podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Right. People were calling yesterday and it was all after
Tracy's email.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Now that was part of our should I stay or
should I Go?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Segment?
Speaker 4 (03:42):
But she basically had reached out to West because none
of her friends she felt like were her friend. She's
been with a hobby for twenty years, so all of
her mates are their mates. But at the moment, she's
really struggling, struggling in the relationship. She loves her husband,
loves her husband, she's got a couple of kids, but
she's just not feeling seen. She feels like she's completely lost.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, it's a little bit more than that. It's not
just the spark, it's.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Just and I think a lot of a lot of
my friends we talk about this, and you hear a
lot about this where you come out of maybe having
kids as a woman, especially not solely, but especially, and
you feel like you're jumping up and down.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
You don't know who you are sure, and you don't
know who you are to.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Your partner anymore, and all that sort of stuff. So
she's basically not feeling seen nor heard. And last week
something snapped for her and she jumped onto Ashley Madison,
which is one of these sites that Shaney pointed out
as well.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
For people who are married and are in a relationship. You're
looking for a bit of something on the site.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Can I just not be coffee?
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I'm really hoping anyway, Look, she started messaging this person
and he wanted to catch up for coffee. So she
was saying to us, look, well should we do it
or not?
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Should we catch up for coffee or no? And you
guys wade in.
Speaker 9 (04:51):
She needs to end her marriage.
Speaker 10 (04:52):
She's already cheating.
Speaker 11 (04:54):
Go and have coffee.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's not a coffee the husband would be having coffee with.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
People at work.
Speaker 12 (05:00):
Go for it, and obviously the marriage has lost a
bit of spark. You know, we've all got needs.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I mean, you've got to feed.
Speaker 12 (05:04):
It's too far big grass, So you.
Speaker 10 (05:06):
Might as well go somewhere else.
Speaker 8 (05:07):
Have you not shown her any attention, go for it.
Speaker 12 (05:09):
Absolutely not cheating is cheating. She's not just going to
hurt her husband, She's going to hurt her children.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Sometimes just the attention, the flirtation improves your marriage.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
Just getting that attention and feeling validated as a woman
and desirable, you can take that back into your relationship
or your marriage.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
All right, And the calls kept coming.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
That was just a few of them, but you can
see on each side people were swinging wildly back and forth,
back and forth. Now, one other thing that became obvious
to us is that these apps, and a lot of
you are on them, right, even if it's like we
laugh with you Tinder, but you know a lot of
the people are on these dating apps.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I reached out to Tracy yesterday because you.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Had the email, and I've been emailing her back and
forth a little bit, mainly just to make sure she's okay,
because it's always really hard when you put yourself out
there and then you hear people weighing in as strongly
we appreciate it doing.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
And she still.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Hasn't decided what she's going to do. But we thought
what we might do next is get Australia's leading tech
expert Trevor Long on to talk about the safety in
and around this, because let's face it, if we're not
on these sites, then our mates are, or our kids
might start being you know, our older kids and whatever else.
So Trevolong is going to join us next to help
us out with a safety and around this and how
(06:23):
you should be dating or maybe setting out on a
new date on the internet. So Tracy has started chatting
to a bloke online and for her it was on
Ashley Madison, but he then wants to get off it
and get onto an encrypted app.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
So I'm not sure about.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Whether or not that's a safe thing to do. And
so many people are using these apps. Now, we thought
we'd get tech expert.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Trevor Long on Good Morning, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Okay, what are the ground rules that people should know
and be putting the most basic things in place to
make sure they are safe.
Speaker 11 (06:50):
Privacy is the most important thing in terms of safety,
So try and protect where you can your full identity,
so things like your email address or your phone number,
because that's why these apps have these chat functions, whether
it's you know the one you mentioned or Tinder or
whatever they are, they have their own messaging one because
they want you to stay in their platform, but two
because that's part of the safety mechanism. The longer you're there,
(07:12):
the more you can build up that relationship, get to
know that person before you then move to another place online,
which might be an encrypted app that is going to
require you handing over more than that app ever asked.
So in this example, moving to an encrypted app, and
I can understand the concept of it sounds a bit
(07:32):
daunting to say, let's move to an encrypted app. So
that just means that, you know what, no one can
intercept your messages, stop your partner from picking up your
phone and opening it up if they know your pass
code to be cleared.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
So does that mean then if someone is to stay
on Ashley madison side or any of these sites and
uses that chat mechanism, that those messages could actually be intercepted.
Speaker 11 (07:54):
Look, I actually don't know whether those apps are encrypted,
but I assume they're not. This is let's just talk
about the partner, let alone the person that's trying to
extort you, because you know, in this situation, the cheating situation,
it's I think the biggest concern would be the extortion
of you by someone wanting to hold it over you,
(08:14):
because you know, you don't want your husband to know.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
And Trevor, just on Tracy's defense, she's saying she only
wants to go for coffee, and I believe that the
boys don't.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But anyway.
Speaker 11 (08:22):
That in that case, why does he want the other person?
What does he want to get onto an encrypted app?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I'll tell you why. I'll tell you. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Because on Ashley Madison, men have to pay to use
the chat function on the website.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's so dodgy.
Speaker 11 (08:37):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Wow, hey, Trevor, what are some examples of encrypted apps?
Like if someone we're not encouraging this, but if anyone
wanted to go down the encrypting path, you.
Speaker 11 (08:47):
Know what, there's there's heaps and you'd be surprised. Facebook
Messenger can be encrypted if he's got an iPhone. If
you're a blue Bubble message you know, and we know
if you're if you're a Green Bubble, you're using an
Android phone. But if you send someone at text from
an iPhone and it's a Blue Bubble, that's encrypted. WhatsApp
is also encrypted.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
Trevor hypothetically if I so, if somebody wanted to cheat
on their partners, yeah, somebody, what would the best app
be to do that?
Speaker 11 (09:16):
It sounds like Ashley Madison to be honest, and I think, look,
I think the thing is where there's so many apps
tend to bumble all these different things that are out
there for meeting people. It's just that Asley Madison as
an example, is essentially the right demographic. You know, you're
already isolating all those other awkward questions of yes, I've
got a partner. So that's the simplest way to go.
(09:36):
And then I personally think, what's happened to be the
perfect solution that it can My wife and I know
each other's PASCO to get into our phones. You want
to have a burner phone for this trace, that's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's only coffee.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
It is only coffee. I don't know, man, I'm.
Speaker 11 (09:54):
Pretty sure husband's not going to be happy with that.
Stick to the app and meet for coffee.
Speaker 12 (09:58):
Let's keep it.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Simple, much trev Thank you very much. You are Australia's
leading tech expert. Now you can actually find out more
at EFTM dot com.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Thanks Trevor, we'll touch you again soon, cheers any cop.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
So I am going back and forth with Tracy and
just emailing her, and we've started up a bit of
a e relationship I think, or a conversation at least,
and she's happy to take your questions too.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So what do you want to ask? What do you
want to say to her?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Maybe more to the point, get to us now in
eight three hundred one O two three, and I'll certainly
be passing that on to her.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And yeah, she hasn't made a decision or.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
What she's going to do.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I guess we'll see what happened.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
We've had follow on from Tracy who contacted us and
emailed us yesterday about this whole idea that she's been
with Abby for twenty years but just feeling really.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Unseen and something snaps.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
So she got onto a website and started having a
conversation online with a gentleman who wants to meet her
for coffee. And I just touched base with her yesterday
and just wanted to make sure she was okay because
everybody had such strong opinions about it. And so we're
going back and forth and I'm asking you, right, what
do you want to know, what do you want to
say to.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Her or ask her?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Tory from Ashton, what question do you want me to
put to Tracy for you?
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Good morning? I think the most important question you need
to ask her is has she sat down with her
husband and had that conversation and told him how she
feels because he might be totally ignorant of the fact
that she even feels like that soap in his bubble
of his marriage. And then next minute she's saying, well, look,
I've met this other guy and all of a sudden,
(11:28):
I feel fantastic and bye bye marriage, and that's where
it could go. So I really think she needs to
take a step back and sit down and have a
chat to him.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Okay, thanks Tory, and keep them coming through A three
hundred and one two three clear from Howlett Cove.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
What do you think, Look, life.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
Is too short having a coffee with someone is I mean,
I'm married and I have coffee with male friends. I
mean it depends on what what she's actually looking for,
And I mean I guess my question is what is
what is she attracted to with this guy? I mean,
what does he look like? I mean, does she does
(12:06):
she have information? Other than just a conversation. And I
agree with the last lady. I mean, you've got to
have good communication, whether it's your partner, your husband, and
if there's no communication on his end, then she's obviously
looking for something somewhere else. But that doesn't mean she's
a bad person or that she's a cheater. I mean
(12:27):
people shouldn't really be judging, you know. I mean, I
know everyone's an opinions, but you know, we all don't
live into the glasshouses where we point fingers without really
knowing all the information.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I know exactly that saying you're trying to get to Claire,
We're with you, Sharon of Woodcroft. All right, what's your
question for Tracy?
Speaker 9 (12:49):
Yeah? Has she considered going and speaking to a counselor
or a psychologist try and really figure out what it
is actually that happened for her son. She doesn't have
a life outside of her marriaging kids, and that might.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Be part of what this is about driving her.
Speaker 9 (13:09):
Yeah, and maybe they can help her with how to
have the conversation with her husband as well.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah, but I give up on what you've got.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Lucy from West Beach, what do you think? What question
do you want.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I guess my.
Speaker 12 (13:21):
Question to Tracy is is she prepared for the consequences
and fall out of this.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
There's kids involved in this too.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Yeah, yeah, okay, thanks Lucy, Danny A. Blair Athole, what
question do you have for Tracy?
Speaker 12 (13:37):
I think without the full back we don't have to
worry about that. But why why did she choose him?
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Like?
Speaker 11 (13:42):
What what got hot under the collar for this guy?
Speaker 1 (13:45):
What was it about him?
Speaker 11 (13:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (13:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (13:48):
What what?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
What?
Speaker 9 (13:48):
What was?
Speaker 11 (13:49):
Why did she choose this fellow? That's what I want to.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Know, all right, Danny, Look, I'll keep emailing, we chatting,
and like I said, she hasn't made up her decision,
and yeah, we'll go back and forth and always, as
always make sure she's okay. Normally I ask you, guys,
what are you doing for the rest of the day.
But I want to tell you what I'm doing because.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I've got mail.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
God, that noise gives me so much hanks.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I hate hearing that before.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's because everything on your computer's turned down and you
just pretend it doesn't exist.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But there are these things called emails.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Shamee, Tracy's emailed me the Tracy yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
So this is the Tracey. We've been talking about last
couple of days because she reached out and she was
married and you know, loves her husband, but is just
feeling completely lost in it, and so just something snapped.
So she got on Ashley Madison and this guy wants
to meet her for coffee. You we said this morning,
(14:44):
you know, do you have any questions for her? People
were saying, well, I want to know if she's spoken
to her hubby and told him that she's struggling.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Has she spoken to a counselor about this?
Speaker 4 (14:51):
And another person wanted to know what made Tracy choose
this particular bloke.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, Tracy has.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Emailed me and looks like she might have made a decision.
So I can't talk about it right now because I
want to go through and ask these questions of her.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
But we'll come back to my own.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Let you know, she's decided on whether or not she's
going to see the bike.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And have a coffee.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I hope she does. Yeah you do, Yeah do it? Trace,
don't do it.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Just be safe about it, make sure you tell someone
week in to be before you do it.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
But yes, do it.
Speaker 13 (15:21):
Coming from mister Tinder.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Joining us now is the awesome Xavier from Port Adelaide
forty club.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Look at you up and about after a big win.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
You should be yes, it was. It was a very
exciting weekend.
Speaker 14 (15:51):
We had a fair win and now we've just got
to try and obviously enjoy that which we have.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
And now I've got to try and keep it going.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
After you have that win round one.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
I know it's a Saturday night, and I know you
have like six or seven days to the next game,
but don't you just want to go and sit in
the chain room and just have six beers with all
of the team.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Had a couple after the game with the boys, which
was very good. We do it.
Speaker 14 (16:15):
We tried to after our wins to try and stay
in there for a good ten to fifty minutes, just
the players, the coaches, all the boys and they're both teams,
and then just enjoy each other's company. Before we even
we have our family and our friends come into the
rooms after the game. We try and just stay in
there for the for a good ten fifty minutes just
to enjoy it, soak it in and then go obviously
do our media or our family, friends, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
But it is exciting, it's a good feeling.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
What did can Hinckley say, because I need this in
my life to go from being.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
So far behind time.
Speaker 14 (16:45):
Yeah, yeah, so it was it was basically telling us,
obviously we're giving a lot of a lot of free
kicks away in the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
When you're saying telling, yelling.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, yeah, get angry, it does.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
You can, Yeah, you can get quite angry.
Speaker 14 (16:59):
But I think at the same time, it's high pressure job,
so it's very yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Yeah, but it seemed to work.
Speaker 14 (17:04):
And yeah we came out in that third quarter and yeah,
second half of spose and play some really really good footage.
But yeah, obviously that's second called we gave away a
lot of free kicks. Are very unsciplined, so he ripped
us a new one in terms of, you know, our
humility about doing the right things, doing the team things,
and then also not winging. I felt for a few
of us, myself included, I was winging about umpire free
kicks and stuff.
Speaker 13 (17:25):
Did you come off the field going you didn't get
that one?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Or did you see that?
Speaker 14 (17:28):
Unputs a little bit of that more like in the
moment my hands arms in the air and going.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
You know, like oh, you know, it was twenty one
to three at one point the free kick count.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, it's hard not to get that, that's.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Right, it's hard.
Speaker 14 (17:39):
But then once we I think, once we brought it
back to you know, focusing on our actual job at hand,
and you know, not getting the emotion over.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Those three kicks, we seem to Yeah, is it a.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Funny sight to see Ken look up at Charlie Dixon
who's just given away one hundred meter penalty in a
goal and see like the height difference and have Ken
baking Charlie.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Yeah, your little.
Speaker 14 (18:00):
Funny songs with just saying like he's looking up and
like twenty things, et cetera. But yeah, I think obviously, yeah,
I think it worked because Holie played an amazingly.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
So now you're a young lad around the clubs right now.
You you've got a partner, yes, but there's plenty of
boys I imagine that would be on the apps these days,
or a couple. We have people slide and into the dms.
We've got Tracy who well she's married, but she's got
onto one of these apps and the bloke's.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Asking her if she should go for a coffee.
Speaker 14 (18:31):
It's just a coffee, right, Yeah, No, if this was
if this was me, I would definitely be not doing it.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
All right, mate, we have another job for you, that's
for sure.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
X marks the spot.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
This is where because you have the famous bow and
arrow celebration, we want you to put a bow and
arrow through the hardest someone every week.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
All right, So who are you taking?
Speaker 14 (19:01):
This is not more a person but just a holistic one.
I'm going to put one through the advertiser just to
this week getting the Jason Horn Francis and.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
The front front page.
Speaker 14 (19:15):
I think it's pretty easy to to kind of get
the just get just get you just get your app up.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
On your phone.
Speaker 14 (19:21):
You'll be able to, you know, scroll for the players
on the team list and stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
I don't think I don't think.
Speaker 14 (19:25):
It's too hard there. But at the same time, all
the boys to get a good laugh out of it.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
So have you been calling Jason, Miles and Miles Jason a.
Speaker 14 (19:32):
Few people at the club, and Ken's been doing that,
you know, saying that given again if you last out
of it. I laughed at once or twice and then
just got kind of.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Old up of that.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
So it was pretty funny.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
The way they came out. They said, even fans get
the mixed up and too completely.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Get the mixed out when you're out there, mate, No,
all right, well.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Good luck for the weekend. Who are you playing?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
And when Collingwood Saturday afternoon? Looking forward to m c G.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I love that you're not wait and let us know
if can rich your new one.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Don't swear at those umpires, all right? Raising your heads?
Speaker 14 (20:08):
Yeah, you keep my ads down and frustraters might get
keep them down in the Dutch trance.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Were good luck today?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Oh? Max came in with the little bottom lip out
this morning.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was not happy.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
It looks like there's been a bit of fallout from
the wedding.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Well, I thought, I mean, you've asked me how it's gone,
and everyone asked me it's perfect.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Everything went so well.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
But what happened last night?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I get a message from my mother and she said, Hey,
remember those two little plastic sort of flowers we buried
in your lapelom. Your grandfather had them in his lapel
flower when he got married Your dad did?
Speaker 4 (20:46):
You did, and you were being so stylish you hid
them behind the other big flowers.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I had a beautiful big bros there and they were
in there. It was sentimental more than to show off. Yeah,
And I was like, I do remember them? She said,
do you have I'm still and I said I don't
think I do. Yes, Yep, I have. I remember taking
(21:12):
it off, and oh my.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
God, this is so exciting.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Finally, Max's life is a hot.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Mess, and I feel we've got to make some milage
of this. Let's ring Mamma Burford.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
Have you met her?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Spoken to her.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Let's get Meg on the phone.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Mama.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
She's She'll accept that she's lovely.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
She is, I'm sure of it.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
It's the other I think it's an absolute lack of
respect that Max Burford has Houston treated one of the
most precious family heirlooms that you have on your mom's side.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Right, Yep, it was too little.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I had two of them.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
That turns out there's a whole little bunch of them,
but two little plastic flowers. They were in my lapel
for my wedding.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
They were on my suit. I had them pinned to
the suits.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And your grandfather had them.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Grandfather had them in his wedding.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Dad had them in his wedding. I had them in mine.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
And my mother sent me a message last night saying, hey,
do you still have those and I said, I think
I threw them out with the lapel on the night.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Now let's go to your Shane Howard.
Speaker 6 (22:20):
Mam Aloe Reactually she would hate me forever.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
In fact, I never hit the end of it.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
Every day, like how she would make a joke about
how those flowers I know mine mum.
Speaker 13 (22:27):
Would be so passive aggressive about it, like she would
be ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Why don't we find out and meet for the very
first time, Mama Burford, Meg, good morning.
Speaker 12 (22:39):
Good Morning's love to meet you.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
God is it has your son completely ruined the family lineage,
the family heirloom, ruined the memories of your beautiful father.
Speaker 12 (22:52):
Well, honestly, I was round at my mother's about two
weeks before the wedding and helping because my mother's quite frail,
and I was helping her clean out some things and
found all of this that you know, I was in
a little bundle and thought, oh, that'll be nice to
be beautiful. So, you know, so we did. And I'm
(23:12):
almost kicking myself because I kept thinking, I must text Max,
I must text Max, you know, keep that, keep that.
And they were in the bundle, but the other bundles
gone missing as well, and I don't see.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
This is where I get a bit of a let off.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
So all of them are gone.
Speaker 12 (23:28):
Everything's gone. So I'm keep thinking of my poor George.
If he gets married my brother, what am I going
to give him? Anyway, We'll work.
Speaker 10 (23:36):
That out when we get there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
So we had another bundle like it was yeah to twenty.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Try to share the blame.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, I'm very, I am sad. I am sad, I am.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I was walking around last night. I was flipping all
of the suits upside down. I was, and Eliza's just like,
what's wrong. It's just like I think I've lost those
many little flowers.
Speaker 12 (24:00):
My response was, you know, like very You know, it
was all text messages and a little kiss doing no kisses.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Call her and she didn't pick up the phone, and
I was like, one, she's angry at me, or two
she's dead. So I had to send Dad a message
and be like, is mum okay?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And that would have made this heirloom even more.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Oh my god, I was so flat.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
So it sounds like you've forgiven him in the space
of a sleep.
Speaker 12 (24:29):
So oh well, you know, I do blame myself as well.
I should have, you know, made that so obvious to
everybody that let's keep this, this is precious.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
But I think the fact you said it was a
family heirloom and it was in your dad's. But look, okay,
so our Max is a little shining light.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Isn't he?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
For us?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Like he's never done anything wrong in all of his
life growing up there with you.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Did he ever put a foot out of place?
Speaker 12 (24:55):
Be careful, mum, I'm sure there were a few feet
out of place over the years.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Did he get in trouble?
Speaker 11 (25:05):
Oh?
Speaker 12 (25:05):
I can remember one instance where one of his teachers
sort of laughed when she told me that he used
to walk into French and push the chairs off the table.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Ah, it's because we had French.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
We were the first class in the morning and all
the chairs get put up on the table at the
end of the.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Day, so and so instead of you placing them underneath
like a normal person.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You even Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So in our years old French, there was like seven
of us in the class. No one took it, so
there's thirty chairs on tables. So we would walk in,
seven of us and just absolutely push everything all over
the God.
Speaker 12 (25:48):
I heard it was him.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I see what I love the generally. When you said
that story, I thought, how old were you going to
beat nine?
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (26:00):
At the end, old enough to know better.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Exactly, all right, Meg, No kisses for Max for the
rest of the day, alright, and I'm thinking of it.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
It's been an absolute delight hearing you and meeting you, Mamma, perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Thanks Mom, thank you.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
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