September 1, 2025 • 9 mins
The Dark Side of Reality TV: Exposing the Biggest Loser
Have you ever wondered what really goes on behind the scenes of your favorite reality TV shows? This juicy podcast blows the lid off The Biggest Loser with insider secrets from former contestant Luke Stephens. Get ready for drama, deception and downright scandal.
Luke reveals how the show would manipulate contestants' weigh-ins through fake scales and computer generated numbers. Producers had total control to change weights for ratings. He also discloses how he was falsely portrayed as an alcoholic and kicked off the show against his will. The producers threatened to expose Luke if he didn't go along with their storyline.
You won't believe the unethical tactics used on vulnerable contestants. Luke spills the tea on shady contracts, unqualified coaches and more. Think you know reality TV? This will make you think again.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I Heard podcasts here more Mix one or two point
three podcasts, playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Mix one oh two point three. Haley and Max in
the Morning.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
One of our favorite things to do on this show
is lift the lid on what goes on behind the
scenes on reality TV shows. We've talked Survivor before, We've
talked Master Chef before. One that is getting blown open
right now on Netflix is The Biggest Loser. They've got
a three part doto called Fit for TV. It's mostly
about the American Biggest Loser, but it's about all the
stuff that goes on behind the scenes, and there's a
lot of controversy. So is there any that going on
(00:42):
in the Australian Biggest Loser when it was on our
screens for so long. Luke Stevens is on the phone
with us right now. He is a former Biggest Loser contestant.
Morning Lukey, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Let's go back to when you were on The Biggest Loser.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
What is something that you know that happened that we
wouldn't know and that the public should probably know.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Probably the time to take to film me. So on
Wayne Day, we will get up in the morning, we
get weighed on a set of big fish scale so
easy way to put it, Yeah, with the screen facing
weight from us to the producers. So we actually don't
know our weight before Wayne, and then we all waddle
up to the gym. You can stand up there for
hours upon hours while we know everyone walks up to
(01:22):
the so called scales. The scales we actually get on
are not real.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
The big ones that we see with the numbers that
exactly go back and forth.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, that's right, that's all computer generated from what they
so say our weight was. The producers can actually change
your weight if they wanted to, because we have no
evidence of what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Oh wow, okay, Luke, Because we spoke to Shannon Ponton,
one of the trainers, and I asked him if the
ways were altered, have a listen, what about the weigh ins?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Was that ever altered anyway?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
No, we don't have any say over that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I feel like Shannon doesn't have any say over it.
But sounds like maybe the producers might of your reckon, Luke.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah, I believe so.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I mean myself and Shannon got on quite well, and
he was quite open and honest with us.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
But I definitely.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I believe that the directors can guide the weights to
where they need to be after hearing certain conversations through
some bugs that are laid around the house, and conversations
we had within our teams, within our buildings.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
So yeah, I think it's definitely guided.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, why would they be doing that? Do you think
what reasons?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Well, at the end of the day, it's all about ratings.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, what I went through, I was I ended up
being labeled quite quickly as one of the favorites to
win it and a fairly likable guy on the show,
And all of a sudden when the alcohol came involved
into the show and I was labeled as an alcoholic
and kicked off the show. The ratings were gone through
the roof for that. So that was just all a
ratings game, and that's not a true story on its own. Well,
(02:46):
I didn't actually smuggle with the alcohol inside.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, those of us that don't quite remember, Luke your
you were kicked off the show?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You had too many You had too many beers one
night or something.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, So what it was it was, actually we'd stopped
filming over the Christmas New Year theory and we'd spoken
to the trainers about having a couple of drinks on
Newye's Eve, and it was said that we could have
a couple and then a few of the train and
I said, no, you can't. Anyway, it was actually one
of the female contestants to help arrange her sons to
drop some alcohol into the show. But what it ended
(03:18):
up happening is we partook in the alcohol and there
was a bit of eight of us that did so,
and I probably took it to the extremes and thought
that I could drink what I used to be able
to drink, and obviously, after losing forty three kilos, couldn't
quite handle it.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
So I was labeled as the alcoholic in that situation.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So and you were kicked off the show.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, So it was it was publicized that I brought
in the alcohol after winning a challenge and coming home
to South Australia for twenty four hours, and basically, yeah,
basically threatened that certain stories would get out about that
evening that happened and everything like that.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
So I had to go along with it. I had to.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I was in New magazine saying how it was an
alcoholics Oh did.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
You sign something to say that yes, I would agree
to do alling all this even though I'm not an alcoholic.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, I think it's not even he really that comes
down to it. I mean, we will hand it, you know,
I don't know how many pages, but let's say six
hundred page document at the age of early twenties and
said sign this, and anything you disclosed is we can
see you type of things. So, I mean, it's quite
frightening when a network and threatened to see you and
you've got no leak to stand on. So I was
(04:27):
basically told if I didn't go along with it that
there would be certain things exposed. And at that time
I was in the hostility and security industry and they
could jeopardize my licensing, so it was quite harsh.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, Luke, this is the dark side that we don't
get to see so much. We actually really want to
keep chatting to you and it's so fascinating to us.
So can you stick with us for a couple of
minutes and I want to come back. I want to
ask you about some of the coaching methods.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Mixed one O two point three Halle and Max in
the Morning, joined by former Biggest Loser contestant Luke Stevens.
We're going behind the Biggest Loser.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, just lifting the lid on a bit of what
happened on that TV shows. A big Netflix doco out
at the moment called Fit for TV. You may have
seen that was about the US one. This is about
the Australian Luke. We have spoken already previously to Shannon Pontan,
who was one of the trainers on the show. This
is what Shannon had to say about his coaching methods
and if he would change anything about his coaching methods.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
If you were to do that show today, would you
be the same?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, I would definitely be exactly the same. And I
think in my personal experience, I was never ever told
to say anything. I was never ever told to do anything.
Everything I did was of my own volition.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now, Shannon came across as quite a good dude to us,
and I think he was quite a good dude on
the show. Luke, what about the rest of them? Gillian
and Bob in the US were just hard asses? Did
you have any gooss you need to spill on the
trainers and the methods they used.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I think it sort of comes down to you. You're right,
Shannon was a great guy and supported our team very well.
But through the other trainers there was a lot of persona. Obviously,
Commando has a persona to uphold. Michelle.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
I felt that she didn't like.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Me, whether that was intimidation because I was doing quite
well in the training and things like that.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Very rarely spoke to me.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Tiftany was fine as well, training sessions, group training sessions
and that. But yeah, Michelle was very We didn't see I.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Die put that way all right.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
So if you could do your time again, what would
you do differently?
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I wouldn't do it. Quite simple, I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I'd quite often say it was a lot of prison
I mean we had no communication with the outside. Well,
we couldn't watch TV, we couldn't listen to radio, we
couldn't talk to her family, friends or anything like that
whilst we were on the show. And you're exercising, so
it's like living in a prison cell because you're.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Not let to go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
You've got no free free will. You feel like you
put out in the exercise yard to go do your training.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But do you think that was for the greater good?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
That's you wanted to lose weight and you tried everything before,
and this was the only thing that was going to work,
and so it was in your best interest that that's
how they treated you.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I don't think so it's not real. I mean the
lessons that you learn aren't real. I mean, I've put
on my weight again since leaving the show, and I
know that the large percentage of people have. And I
think the most concerning thing about is like you get
people to get angry at you. So you say I
was on the losing you know, it was like prison
may turner and tell you, but you knew exactly what
you're getting yourself into. We didn't, No one did, and
(07:16):
that the producers are literally there to make money and
to make sure that they get their rating.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I know you were working out like eight to twelve
hours a day sometimes how many calories because it was
all very restricted, right, It was in a way.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Like it was very doable if you've got no job
to go to and things like that. So basically six
hundred calories in the morning and six hundred calories at
night is what Shannon.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Asked of us.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Shannon put a lot of time and effort into making
sure that we were being able to eat properly and
we'll be able to train properly. And it was up
to us to do that training. Like Shannon wasn't in
every day. Shannon was in maybe two times a week
to do the filming of the training, So the training
itself was up to us.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Like you said, you finished to show, you pretty much
put all the weight back on. Did you learn anything
that makes you healthier?
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know whether it be the food intake or the
exercise or what you need to do to drop weight
if you wanted to.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, I could, But at the end of the day,
it's actually really expensive to eat healthy.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
I first got off the show, I.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Spent a lot of money on a personal trainer, and
I actually dropped a lot of weight and got invited
back for finale and for Makeover Week because I was
doing so well out of the show. But it does
get expensive, and unfortunately I actually couldn't go back into
my old role because I was labeled as an alcoholic.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's terrible.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So even today I was at twenty twelve, so we're
talking thirteen years later. My current employer, whilst I was
going through the employment process, raised the whole Biggest Loser
thing and about me being in our coolic and whether
they would be an issue if I come on board
with them and things like that.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was a TV storyline, you know, that little thing
just keeps popping back up in life for me.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And as soon as the cameras stopped the end of
the show, it all finishes. Were you contacted, all supported
by anyone on the show.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
It was quite.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Interesting obviously me being kicked off.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
So what I received from.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Seawan Australia or the Biggest Loser was literally, we will
send you to two psychiatric sessions.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Oh wow, and you're fine from there. We've just labeled
and possibly ruin some careers and there you go have
two sight sessions on us.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I'm so sorry it sounds like you get your head
screwed on now.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
At least, yeah I do. I've got a beautiful life.
It has paid off in regards to my hard work.
Nothing that the show has been able to support me through.
But yeah, it's been a tough cruel and you knows
it has taken that time to get.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
There and get it sorted.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Luke, you're a legend. Thank you so much for sharing
your story mate. It's great to hear the behind the
scenes stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
No worries.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Thank you very much. Guys appreciate it.
I Heard podcasts here more Mix one or two point
three podcasts, playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Mix one oh two point three. Haley and Max in
the Morning.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
One of our favorite things to do on this show
is lift the lid on what goes on behind the
scenes on reality TV shows. We've talked Survivor before, We've
talked Master Chef before. One that is getting blown open
right now on Netflix is The Biggest Loser. They've got
a three part doto called Fit for TV. It's mostly
about the American Biggest Loser, but it's about all the
stuff that goes on behind the scenes, and there's a
lot of controversy. So is there any that going on
(00:42):
in the Australian Biggest Loser when it was on our
screens for so long. Luke Stevens is on the phone
with us right now. He is a former Biggest Loser contestant.
Morning Lukey, good morning.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Let's go back to when you were on The Biggest Loser.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
What is something that you know that happened that we
wouldn't know and that the public should probably know.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Probably the time to take to film me. So on
Wayne Day, we will get up in the morning, we
get weighed on a set of big fish scale so
easy way to put it, Yeah, with the screen facing
weight from us to the producers. So we actually don't
know our weight before Wayne, and then we all waddle
up to the gym. You can stand up there for
hours upon hours while we know everyone walks up to
(01:22):
the so called scales. The scales we actually get on
are not real.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
The big ones that we see with the numbers that
exactly go back and forth.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, that's right, that's all computer generated from what they
so say our weight was. The producers can actually change
your weight if they wanted to, because we have no
evidence of what it is.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Oh wow, okay, Luke, Because we spoke to Shannon Ponton,
one of the trainers, and I asked him if the
ways were altered, have a listen, what about the weigh ins?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Was that ever altered anyway?
Speaker 6 (01:53):
No, we don't have any say over that.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I feel like Shannon doesn't have any say over it.
But sounds like maybe the producers might of your reckon, Luke.
Speaker 7 (02:00):
Yeah, I believe so.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I mean myself and Shannon got on quite well, and
he was quite open and honest with us.
Speaker 7 (02:05):
But I definitely.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
I believe that the directors can guide the weights to
where they need to be after hearing certain conversations through
some bugs that are laid around the house, and conversations
we had within our teams, within our buildings.
Speaker 7 (02:16):
So yeah, I think it's definitely guided.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Yeah, why would they be doing that? Do you think
what reasons?
Speaker 7 (02:21):
Well, at the end of the day, it's all about ratings.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, what I went through, I was I ended up
being labeled quite quickly as one of the favorites to
win it and a fairly likable guy on the show,
And all of a sudden when the alcohol came involved
into the show and I was labeled as an alcoholic
and kicked off the show. The ratings were gone through
the roof for that. So that was just all a
ratings game, and that's not a true story on its own. Well,
(02:46):
I didn't actually smuggle with the alcohol inside.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, those of us that don't quite remember, Luke your
you were kicked off the show?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
What happened?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
You had too many You had too many beers one
night or something.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, So what it was it was, actually we'd stopped
filming over the Christmas New Year theory and we'd spoken
to the trainers about having a couple of drinks on
Newye's Eve, and it was said that we could have
a couple and then a few of the train and
I said, no, you can't. Anyway, it was actually one
of the female contestants to help arrange her sons to
drop some alcohol into the show. But what it ended
(03:18):
up happening is we partook in the alcohol and there
was a bit of eight of us that did so,
and I probably took it to the extremes and thought
that I could drink what I used to be able
to drink, and obviously, after losing forty three kilos, couldn't
quite handle it.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
So I was labeled as the alcoholic in that situation.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So and you were kicked off the show.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, So it was it was publicized that I brought
in the alcohol after winning a challenge and coming home
to South Australia for twenty four hours, and basically, yeah,
basically threatened that certain stories would get out about that
evening that happened and everything like that.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
So I had to go along with it. I had to.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I was in New magazine saying how it was an
alcoholics Oh did.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
You sign something to say that yes, I would agree
to do alling all this even though I'm not an alcoholic.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, I think it's not even he really that comes
down to it. I mean, we will hand it, you know,
I don't know how many pages, but let's say six
hundred page document at the age of early twenties and
said sign this, and anything you disclosed is we can
see you type of things. So, I mean, it's quite
frightening when a network and threatened to see you and
you've got no leak to stand on. So I was
(04:27):
basically told if I didn't go along with it that
there would be certain things exposed. And at that time
I was in the hostility and security industry and they
could jeopardize my licensing, so it was quite harsh.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, Luke, this is the dark side that we don't
get to see so much. We actually really want to
keep chatting to you and it's so fascinating to us.
So can you stick with us for a couple of
minutes and I want to come back. I want to
ask you about some of the coaching methods.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Mixed one O two point three Halle and Max in
the Morning, joined by former Biggest Loser contestant Luke Stevens.
We're going behind the Biggest Loser.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, just lifting the lid on a bit of what
happened on that TV shows. A big Netflix doco out
at the moment called Fit for TV. You may have
seen that was about the US one. This is about
the Australian Luke. We have spoken already previously to Shannon Pontan,
who was one of the trainers on the show. This
is what Shannon had to say about his coaching methods
and if he would change anything about his coaching methods.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
If you were to do that show today, would you
be the same?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Yeah, I would definitely be exactly the same. And I
think in my personal experience, I was never ever told
to say anything. I was never ever told to do anything.
Everything I did was of my own volition.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now, Shannon came across as quite a good dude to us,
and I think he was quite a good dude on
the show. Luke, what about the rest of them? Gillian
and Bob in the US were just hard asses? Did
you have any gooss you need to spill on the
trainers and the methods they used.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
I think it sort of comes down to you. You're right,
Shannon was a great guy and supported our team very well.
But through the other trainers there was a lot of persona. Obviously,
Commando has a persona to uphold. Michelle.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
I felt that she didn't like.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Me, whether that was intimidation because I was doing quite
well in the training and things like that.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Very rarely spoke to me.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Tiftany was fine as well, training sessions, group training sessions
and that. But yeah, Michelle was very We didn't see I.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Die put that way all right.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
So if you could do your time again, what would
you do differently?
Speaker 7 (06:21):
I wouldn't do it. Quite simple, I wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I'd quite often say it was a lot of prison
I mean we had no communication with the outside. Well,
we couldn't watch TV, we couldn't listen to radio, we
couldn't talk to her family, friends or anything like that
whilst we were on the show. And you're exercising, so
it's like living in a prison cell because you're.
Speaker 7 (06:39):
Not let to go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
You've got no free free will. You feel like you
put out in the exercise yard to go do your training.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
But do you think that was for the greater good?
Speaker 4 (06:46):
That's you wanted to lose weight and you tried everything before,
and this was the only thing that was going to work,
and so it was in your best interest that that's
how they treated you.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I don't think so it's not real. I mean the
lessons that you learn aren't real. I mean, I've put
on my weight again since leaving the show, and I
know that the large percentage of people have. And I
think the most concerning thing about is like you get
people to get angry at you. So you say I
was on the losing you know, it was like prison
may turner and tell you, but you knew exactly what
you're getting yourself into. We didn't, No one did, and
(07:16):
that the producers are literally there to make money and
to make sure that they get their rating.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I know you were working out like eight to twelve
hours a day sometimes how many calories because it was
all very restricted, right, It was in a way.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Like it was very doable if you've got no job
to go to and things like that. So basically six
hundred calories in the morning and six hundred calories at
night is what Shannon.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Asked of us.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Shannon put a lot of time and effort into making
sure that we were being able to eat properly and
we'll be able to train properly. And it was up
to us to do that training. Like Shannon wasn't in
every day. Shannon was in maybe two times a week
to do the filming of the training, So the training
itself was up to us.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Like you said, you finished to show, you pretty much
put all the weight back on. Did you learn anything
that makes you healthier?
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Now?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
You know whether it be the food intake or the
exercise or what you need to do to drop weight
if you wanted to.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah, I could, But at the end of the day,
it's actually really expensive to eat healthy.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
I first got off the show, I.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
Spent a lot of money on a personal trainer, and
I actually dropped a lot of weight and got invited
back for finale and for Makeover Week because I was
doing so well out of the show. But it does
get expensive, and unfortunately I actually couldn't go back into
my old role because I was labeled as an alcoholic.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That's terrible.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So even today I was at twenty twelve, so we're
talking thirteen years later. My current employer, whilst I was
going through the employment process, raised the whole Biggest Loser
thing and about me being in our coolic and whether
they would be an issue if I come on board
with them and things like that.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It was a TV storyline, you know, that little thing
just keeps popping back up in life for me.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
And as soon as the cameras stopped the end of
the show, it all finishes. Were you contacted, all supported
by anyone on the show.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
It was quite.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Interesting obviously me being kicked off.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
So what I received from.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Seawan Australia or the Biggest Loser was literally, we will
send you to two psychiatric sessions.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
That was it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Oh wow, and you're fine from there. We've just labeled
and possibly ruin some careers and there you go have
two sight sessions on us.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I'm so sorry it sounds like you get your head
screwed on now.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
At least, yeah I do. I've got a beautiful life.
It has paid off in regards to my hard work.
Nothing that the show has been able to support me through.
But yeah, it's been a tough cruel and you knows
it has taken that time to get.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
There and get it sorted.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Luke, you're a legend. Thank you so much for sharing
your story mate. It's great to hear the behind the
scenes stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
No worries.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
Thank you very much. Guys appreciate it.
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