⚡MINI: As A Mum, Hayley Is VERY Concerned With Trump's Paracetamol Claims

As a mum, Hayley is VERY concerned with Trump's paracetamol claims.

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
There are a lot of confused mums and dads yesterday,
including myself, including.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Mazzie in the newsroom, Bergo is a dad.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
We're all talking about it where Donald Trump claimed that
pregnant women should tough it out and avoid having paracetamol,
saying that it's linked to autism. So this is something
that I think, as a parent, we've all been talking
about since forever because nobody knows what causes autism.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Nobody knows.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, there's a whole bunch of studies that have been
done on this, so I'll give you the facts real quick.
The facts on this are that medical groups, including the
Australian Medical Association, have come out and said there are
absolutely zero studies that back up the US president's claim.
And then Trump's recent statements, he has apparently been citing
evidence that paracetamol in pregnancy links to autism because he

(01:07):
suggested that Amish and Cuban communities have virtually no autism
because they don't use the drug. That's it seems to
be where his side of it is coming from.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
That is opinion not medically supported.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yes, so again just confirming that the Australian Medical Association
say don't do this. If you have any concerns whatsoever,
go and speak to your medical professional. But you can
continue taking paracetamol tyler and ol, which is what they
call it in America. Continue taking that while you're pregnant
in Australia is the current advice.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
The thing, you know, the crappy thing is as a
mum and when we were first you know, trying for
a baby and then you were pregnant, there's so much
talk of like, oh do we like immunize our children
because is that link to autism? There's all this like
hearsay stuff that nothing is proven and while you're while
you are pregnant, everything is so confusing as a woman,

(01:57):
and it's all if we feel, I know, we have
a baby with a partner, we need you to have
a baby.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
But it feels like it's all on us.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
You can't have soft cheeses, you can't have sushi, you
can't do that. You can't you have to have said
like all the things you can't do, and then you
feel like if something happens it's your fault. It's really
really puts so much pressure on women. And I know, Burjo,
you're a dad.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
Yeah, I think the biggest thing for me when my
baby mama Lauren, got pregnant, was just there's so much
already that you worry about. You know, there's all these scans,
and at every scan, these big milestone scans, is when
you go, Okay, you're in the clear for this, and
you've passed that, and you've got that, now you've got
a heartbeat, and there's all these different things that you
are constantly worrying about. And I don't think someone coming

(02:40):
out and saying something like this.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
So taking tail and oil is.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Not good.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
I'll say it, it's not good, and.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
That doesn't help. And also we're trusting someone who delivers
that news like that.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
No I him, our opinion is not fat And so
I think unless something is medically proven, someone like Donald Trump,
the President of America, should not be saying that out loud.
So if you are a parent or you're thinking about
having kids, just talk to your doctor just and you know,
nobody at this stage still no one knows what causes

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autism and it's not your fault.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Whatever happens. It is not your fault, Hailey.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
When you look back at your pregnancy when you hear this,
did you look back at your pregnancy and go.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh, was I taking barizetamol? Was I doing this?

Speaker 6 (03:25):
Like?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Does it give you an extra worry?

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Okay, yeah it does? Do you know what it does?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
It creates an element of doubt, which I hate because
it's I don't believe him and it's not medically proven,
but it does does make.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
You go, did I did?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I like because one in forty people are on the spectrum.
But also Donald's whole argument is like back in the day,
there was like there was only like one in twenty
thousand people had autism.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
It's because people weren't tested. Back in the day when
I went to school, the naughty people actually had ADHD.
But that wasn't like a thing back then.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
When your baby has a fever, it's actually incredibly dangerous.
My daughter had fedroll convulsions, which.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Is when they go far back over so scary and.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
They essentially have some sort of seizure. There is baby panadole,
baby panetole that you can give the zero two three
month old baby to not have it in I mean
it just it boggles the mind. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yah.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
So let's just make a deal. As in our little
family meeting right here. If you're listening to this, just
talk to your doctor. Don't stress. Try not to make
it stress you out. It's not factual. Talk to your
doctor at the moment. We're just talking about, just for
a little moment, something serious. This is Donald Trump yesterday
is coming out saying that paracetamol is linked to autism
and that women should not be taking parasitmo.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
All during pregnancy can be associated with a very increased
risk of autism. So taking tail and all is.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Not good.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I'll say it. It's not good for this reason. They
are strongly recommending that women limit tailer and all used
during pregnancy unless medically necessary.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I just want to say, sorry, Mack, if you just
put the radio on, just remember that is not medically proven.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
What he just said is not medically That's.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
What Trump's administration recommending. The Australian Medical Association says, don't
do that. Continue taking panatole if you like. Alex in
Claire has called in, Alex, how has this resonated with you?

Speaker 6 (05:20):
I think Donald Trump's just the fearmonger. My ex and
her whole family absolutely love Donald Trump and swear on
everything he says, like it's the Bible, which is bad
because my nineteen month old daughter is unvaccinated because of

(05:41):
their beliefs because my ex threatened to break up with
me before our daughter was born if I ever discussed
getting Sophia vaccinated, A man.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Oh my goodness, and you guys aren't together anymore no where.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
I'm having to now go through family court to get
my daughter vaccinated along with trying to get of.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
My daughter Alex. I don't understand how this works at all.
Can you take your daughter to the doctor and get
her vaccinated without Do you need consent from both parents?
How does that work?

Speaker 6 (06:16):
So I had tried discussing this with my lawyer a
couple of weeks ago, and my lawyer essentially said to me,
we need to get a high court order to get
her vaccinated. A couple of weeks ago, my daughter actually
ended up in the hospital because my ex refuses to

(06:36):
take her to the doctors and she was turning blue
in her fleet on the way back up from Craigmore
to Claire because she had rsv.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Okay that you are in a really, really tricky situation,
and I'm so sorry. Does she has she always been
a massive Trump support and believe whatever he says?

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yep, because of my dad.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Right, Okay?

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Does she understand that he maybe not be like the
things that he said? Is that he says his opinion, only.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
She swears on it like it's the Bible.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
This is annoying.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
To be honest, a lot of people, you're welcome to
agree with a lot of what Donald says and a
lot of what he doesn't say. But when it comes
to medical things, the only person you should listen to
are your doctors. Only listen to your doctor. Go and
ask your doctor what the best thing to do is.
They're the one that have studied for like a decade.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I got made.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Who's thirty three.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
She studied since she finished school.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
She's just finished studying in her specialty, so she can
be a specialist.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, Donald is not a doctor.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
No, you have to remember, and it's a real shame
that this has happened. But we do need to remember
that these vaccines, the COVID vaccine, these kids vaccines, they
have all been politicized and they don't need to be
They shouldn't be politicized. It's about medical, not political, that's
what it comes down to.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yeah, that's so true.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
And also these vaccines that kids have are proven. You know,
that's why polio isn't around anymore.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Correct, Yeah,