Is it cruel exclusion or practical parenting? Hayley and Max go head-to-head in this passionate debate about whether children should be required to invite their entire class to birthday celebrations. The discussion quickly transforms from lighthearted banter into a surprisingly emotional exchange that will have parents everywhere nodding in recognition or shaking their heads in disagreement.
Max tugs at heartstrings with a vivid story of a rejected five-year-old discovering she's been excluded from the "butterfly club" birthday party, painting a picture of childhood isolation that's hard to ignore. Meanwhile, Haley counters with brutal practicality - the financial burden, weekend sacrifices, and the absurdity of forcing children to celebrate with classmates they may not even like.
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Mix one O two point three. Haley Max in the morning,
twenty one past eight, cloudy, twenty one degrees in Adelaide.
Let's do it all right, Haley Pierson. Max Burford heads
ahead on a topic that divides Adelaide, and you've got
(00:38):
sixty seconds on the clock to debate this topic.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, should we talk about the topic that you just
did in the studio?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Did it anyway? Did you do that in an enclosed room? Yes?
Or no?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
No?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Disgusting?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
It's gross anyway?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
What is the topic we're debating today, Bryan.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I'm sorry, I've got an off gut. All right, here
we go. All kids in your child's class should should
be invited to your kid's birthday party? Affirmative? Max Burford, Negative,
Hailey Pearson. So why don't we start with you, Matt
before you start the timer. We're both on the same
side here. We both think it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
However, I'm going to fight this fight, and I'm going
to fight the fight in a different way, Okay, because
I think all children should be invited birthday parties, and
I'm going to tug at your heart strings.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Here we go with.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
A little story.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Your time SUTs.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Don't use my kids in this, By the way.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I'm going to use you now. Picture this, Haley Pearson.
You are five years old. Goddamn you look cute as
a button girl.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Right.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You've just started at reception for the first time. You
are a shy little flower. You're trying to find your
place in the classroom set up, just looking for your
first mate.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Monday rolls around.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You see the group of five girls that you thought
you were getting close to. They're all standing there at recess.
You walk up to them. You got a little trepidacious
smile and you go, do you guys want to go
to the playground?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
What's this?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
They've all got a matching little bit of glitter face
paint on. And why do they all have the same lollipops?
And how did it eventuate that the five of your
friends all have the same little plastic faerry toy? That's strange.
Little Haley's so confused. It hasn't click. Do you walk
up to them, You say, hi, girls, can I play?
They turned to you and say, sorry, we're just doing
the butterfly club today, maybe tomorrow. Haley, your heart sinks.
You find a bench, you sit by yourself, You eat
(02:18):
your carrot stinks. No one else comes up to you.
At recess, the bell goes. You head back to class.
You sit in the corner by yourself. Your reception teacher.
Mister Metonti hands out pay for our reception teacher. Yeah,
the butterfly girls, they're all going to paint colorful butterflies.
You wonder if you ever see color again. Just a
black paint for me today, mister Metonti. If those if
only those selfish pigs had invited me to the birthday party.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
That's really sad. That's maybe I feel really sad now. Yeah,
I don't want to deliver my debate. Sorry, I don't
have it in me to deliver mine.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I'm just trying to fight the fight here.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Really sad.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's why you should invite children to all birthday parties.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, you should invite your child's entire class to their
birthday party. On the negative, Haley, Pierce, in your time starts.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Now, absolutely not a party of five to ten kids.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
That's perfect. It's fun, it's manageable.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
It's meaningful. Anymore is riddled with problems. That means you
have to buy thirty presents a year. All we have
to come up with twenty five different excuses as to
why our kids can't go to your stupid child's birthday party.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Think about it, that's thirty weekends you have to juggle.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's thirty gifts, thirty rounds of awkward small talk with
families I don't know. I barely have time to see
my own friends. I don't want to waste my weekends
with people I don't know. And as the parent of
the birthday kid, think of the money, the coffee tab
for all those parents that you don't that don't even
want to be there.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Let's do the math.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So you've got thirty kids, say you're at a bounce,
You've got a coffee tab, You've got lollibags.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
That's three thousand dollars. No one can afford that. Nobody
wants this.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Kids don't want to have They don't want to invite
their bullies to their party's.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
That's what you'd have to do if you have to
invite everybody.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
And to be honest, every time I open my son's
bag and I see an invitation for another birthday party.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
The first thing I do is say Ford's sake, who
the Hell's Iman? It's a big no from me.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay, there we go, nicely debated guys.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, different arguments.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
What do you think thirty one O two three? It's
I just think it's a rule that shouldn't be made.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
People should just have little parties like we used to
be back in the eighties and nineties. What do you
think should all kids have to be invited to a
birthday party?
Speaker 4 (04:23):
All?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Right? Do you have a heart or not? It's basically
when it comes down to the top.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
What about the Butterfly Club, Hailey?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I don't like butterflies anyway, but we live for like
a day.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Three. Give us a ring for.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Your opinions and helping us reach a verdict on this debate.
We'll throw in the running for that one hundred and
fifty dollars Sheen voucher.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
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