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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
All right, Parents of tweens or teens, listen up if
you like me, have let your teenager on social media
under the age of sixteen. As of December tenth this year,
they are about to lose access to their favorite platforms.
It is becoming law. This is a world first to
protect our teens.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I am all about it. I have seen firsthand. I've
got three daughters. All they've had differing addictions to social media,
but my youngest, Frankie, who is fourteen, is the worst.
I take personal responsibility for it. She spends all day
on it. She snapchats with her friends back and forth
all day. She goes down a TikTok rabbit hole. Her
screen time would be appalling, her attention span is shot.
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She's a smart girl, though she's a rampant consumerist. She
wants something from us. I hate a ramp and consumerist.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I love consuming my big cat.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
You're round it in fact, so I am really worried
about when this kicks in, how I'm going to get
her off it, because she's absolutely addicted and she's also
quite distressed by it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I would say, okay, so things that are being banned Facebook, Instagram, TikTok,
they're going to have an age restriction on them, so
maybe like facial scans. And I don't think anyone's really
certain how they're going to verify this age. At the
moment when this comes in, You're fourteen year old, day
one of not having you know, six hours of snapchat
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or whatever.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
How could you foresee that going?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Well, I've already told her she needs to find a way.
She needs to message like old people, like do a
group text or a WhatsApp group, because they all communicate
via Snapchat, and I think she's going to feel isolated.
My other concern is that if all the parents like,
there's no law, it's the onus is on the social
media platforms to enforce this. So there's no law against
a parent going here, you go scan my face, put
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in my date of birth. So if other parents circumvent
this and she's the only kid who's not in the
snapchat group, she is going to be left out and ostracized.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
You need to run a band together here.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, we need all parents to go Okay, this is
the right thing. We've got to we've got to get them.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Off to make you worry about her future.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Do you feel concerned that she can't actually engage in
a normal way with humans impact.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I think she's very different to her sister, who's twenty two,
who didn't have as much access to social media. And
then my middle child's a big book reader, and Frankie
does not read. I cannot get her to read a
book because they're attention span. They're so used to being
stimulated and changing images every second that she can't sit
down and concentrate. And I know I'm the mother.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
So that's where that was my next question.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Beck Moss, could you please reveal to everyone your iPhone
screen time?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
No, I'll do it if you don't.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
It's bad, it's bad.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
It's it's about eight hours a day.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, it's a word sh.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Eight hours a day. That's a nine to five job
of you on your phone. And how do you, as
a mother go I'm setting this example for my fourteen
year old, but you need to do a different thing.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'm a terrible role model. I mean, does that include
like maps and music?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
How much time are you spending looking at maps?
Speaker 5 (03:24):
What I've actually got a story back about how bad
you are. I think it is really a problem for you.
What is the Paula Abdul song opposite to track.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Men to you?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
So a few years ago, Vergo and I were lucky
enough to attend the logis and Paula Abdul was the
guest and she was actually on the dance floor with us,
and instead of being present and in the moment, I
filmed the whole thing on my phone and then I
went and sat down and added it to my Snapchat
story and Ergo was like, this is an intervention. You've
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got Paula Abdul next to you and you can't get
your head out of the screen.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
And I was like, my phonewers need to know you
was exactly what your fourteen year old daughter is thinking
heading into this band.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I know I've created a monster and I need help
to all.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Right, give us a ring adelaide thirteen one oh two three?
Are you in this position? How are you prepping your
children for the social media ban? Is it the best
thing ever? Is that the worst thing ever? Is it
already ripping your family apart? Beck needs some help, Big
Type to be honest in more ways than what struggling
with something at the moment.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Beck the social media ban that comes in for under
sixteenths in December. I have a fourteen year old who
is a full blown addict, and I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
How are you going to feel without any of these things?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Yeah, I don't know. Does they do have a big
impact on my life? So I don't know. I'll definitely struggle.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I would like to know, Frankie, because I think that
we learn a lot from our parents.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
When you are at home. Does your mum spend much
time on her phone?
Speaker 7 (04:52):
She definitely does, and I find it very hypocritical because
she tells me to get off it, but she's on
it twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
It's very interesting. What is your mum usually doing on
her phone?
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Instagram, messaging her friends. I'm not allowed to do that
apparently when I'm around her.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Do you think that it is fair for her to
be on her phone for eight hours a day and
then to turn around to you and say you spend
too much time on your phone.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
No, I think that's very unfair. I think they should
enforce a parent social media band.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
How do you think that your mother would go without
her social media?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Without her phone?
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (05:29):
She would struggle even harder than me, definitely.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Because that's her main job now, isn't it. Frankie.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
It's really bad timing as well, because I've just recently
perfected my Instagram grid and highlights.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
So what does your perfected Instagram grid look like?
Speaker 6 (05:46):
Pretty acitic?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
You do sound a little bit like your mother's daughter.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
Definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
You know that I can't get you wrong there looking
back all that up, you do have a big problem.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
What this is it about me?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
But you're the influence.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh my god, bird's actually glaring at me right now.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It's actually turning around onto you quite heavily. This goes on.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
My highlight's pretty well cy rated as well. No, no,
she has to get off, and maybe maybe I can
start to look at my own habits.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
You'll work on the Big three as your fourteen year
old to water it refers to it.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Give us a ring? Third, ain't one? O?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Two?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Three? What do you think about the social media band
that is coming in?
Speaker 4 (06:26):
How are you preparing? How are your children preparing for it?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
All right, we'll tell your calls next.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
We've got one hundred and fifty dollars strike bowling Hyjik's
Hotel Archie Brothers voucher up for grabs for your calls
as well.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
And next we speak to a ten year old.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, a ten year old who's got her own YouTube channel.
So she's in trouble. We are just over two months
away from the government enforced social media band, the world
first social media band coming in and kids under the
age of sixteen won't be able to use Facebook, Instagram,
TikTok and the like.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
And this is a big problem in the Morse household.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yes, my fourteen year old Frankie has a social media
addiction that rivals her mother's and she uses it to
communicate her friends. With her friends, Snapchat is the group chat,
that's what they make all their social plans. And I'm
concerned that I plan on enforcing it and if other
parents find a way to bypass it, then she is
going to be out on her loan. So, Cassie from Riverton,
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you've got a thirteen year old, how's she going to cope?
Speaker 8 (07:22):
So she's one step ahead of the government already by
using her sixteen year old friend's ID.
Speaker 9 (07:27):
So she's already ready to go.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
What And I see that if we don't, you know,
we put enforcements in.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
They're just going to hammer the parents constantly.
Speaker 9 (07:37):
And we'll give in and give them our ID.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I know, but I don't want to give in, Cass.
I think that's your opportun.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Given her a phone.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
She's got a mobile phone, hasn't she You've already given.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
In, Yeah, I know, but that's just so she could
be contactable in case of amxacy.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, no AM for Internet and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
So surely so the social media giants could face huge
fines if they get caught out. So surely they're going
to have to smarten up and work out that these
kids are using fake identities.
Speaker 9 (08:05):
Yeah, we're in the country, and if we're they're already
doing it. The city kids are definitely doing it.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
City kids.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, so apparently the government the ID is not going
to be a solver.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
Used in a Mark Elephant Science Awards project where we
created a QR code that links to her YouTube channel,
so she uses it from a school perspective and her
science teacher plays her YouTube videos and that sort of thing.
So we're a little bit up in the air. We
don't know whether we can keep it because it's under
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our account but it's videos of her, or whether we
have to change over to YouTube Kids.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Jules, would you, for the sake of Ari's education, log
in as an adult and let her use your account
and then she is open to using it for the
rest of YouTube Or is that a risk that you
don't want to take.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
I mean, she's ten, so from a supervision point of view,
they can watch YouTube with supervision and then they've got
YouTube Kids accounts as well, which have got all the
settings right. But yeah, I think I'd be tempted as
they get older. Between ten and fifteen is a really
hard age bracker. I think YouTube Kids is really aimed
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at younger kids.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yeah, will they become tweens? They just want it that
I want.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
To be here, Yeah, And I think I agree with
what the previous caller was saying about putting pressure on
parents of my boys eight years old and he's always
putting pressure on me to watch YouTube. Yeah, and it
puts pressure on us to have to supervise. Not all
parents are in that position where they can supervise all
the time.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Is Aria there? Can you pop her on for us?
Speaker 9 (09:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Hi?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Aria? How do you feel about this social media van
for under sixteens? And you worried that you might have
to get off YouTube.
Speaker 10 (09:51):
Yeah, I don't like it at all. It's also because,
in my opinion, like YouTube kids is kind of a
little bit boring for my age. Not like there's some
entertaining videos, but like not very much for me. But
i'mlike YouTube, there's so much entertaining videos on there.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
But Aria that the argument is for ten year olds
like you, they want you, guys, to not spend so
much time watching the screen. They want you to go
outside and see those beautiful butterflies that you talk about.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Do you think that you should spend some more time
outside and less time on the screens.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
It's really about the balance.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yep, I'm with you, Aria, Okay, will you go out
and see those butterflies in your life? You know what
Frankie's going to do now, She's going to tell me
that she's using TikTok to research science and modern butterflies and.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
When summer I turned pretty boys in comrade.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Hey Amy Gerard who filled in for wol and Woody
on The Drive Show last week with christ Page. She
does a whole bunch of parenting stuff on Instagram, but
she has done something very interesting. A cold turkey snatch
and removal of all devices.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's brave how it went.
Speaker 9 (11:09):
Next listen, I've I've pulled a bit of a I
don't know if I've done myself an injustice here or
a solid but I've just kind of removed iPads from
all of my kids hands at the start of the
school holidays too, which people are just like, why coy
pone cold turkey. I'm all about short term pain, long
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term gain. I hate dragging it out. So yeah, they
just went missing one day and they've they've never come back.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
How old are your kids?
Speaker 9 (11:38):
Amy, I have a six year old, an eight year
old and a nine year old.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Well played, what are they?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
What's been their reaction?
Speaker 9 (11:48):
In listen, there was there was more of a reaction
from my middle child, the eight year old. He is
particularly fond of roadblocks. But trying to remove the iPad
out of his hands after he's been playing that is
like it's like meeting Lucifer, you know, the devil. And
so the colmdowns from that are just not even They're
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not They're not worth even him having an iPad, to
be honest, It's just it's not very pleasant in our
household after that. So I've just gone. Instead of bitching
and moaning about this constantly, They're just gone. I'm just removing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Them, Amy, are you playing with them?
Speaker 6 (12:27):
Playing with them?
Speaker 10 (12:28):
Now?
Speaker 9 (12:29):
Can? I will say this, I've done it in summer.
I've done it in summer. We live in a street
with lots of kids. We were just about to go
holiday down in a caravan park, so I was like, now,
it's the perfect time. Had it been winter, I don't
know if I would have been as brave. No, who
likes playing.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
With their kids?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Not me.
Speaker 9 (12:50):
So, but I yeah, yeah, I need to validate you there.
But I purposely moved into a street with lots of
young families for that exact reason. They're outside. The weather's good, obviously,
the weather helps, so that's made a huge different. So
I've just to the outside. And if they're not outside
riding their bikes, they're now in the pools. And we've
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obviously been on holidays.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And yeah, you're lucky, Amy, In all seriousness, your kids
will grow up without the curse of social media till
they're sixteen. I think they're in a great age.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
One of the best fits you've noticed so far, Amy,
what are the positives you've noticed.
Speaker 9 (13:24):
Oh truly, like my middle child, who's the one who
like changes the most, He's just his normal self again.
He's a really sweet, kind boy, and Roadblocks just brought
out is really aggressive side to him and I honestly
I haven't seen it in two weeks now it works.
Just go cold Turkey, rip the band aid off, guys.
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I mean, yeah, it's been it's been good. Get in
winter though I had to be back.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Max.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You can do that with all your kids too. Yeahs
and Moroso Instagram
Speaker 9 (14:00):
Oh no worries, guy's thank you