August 19, 2025 • 13 mins
A controversial slur on the footy field leads to a lengthy suspension. But is the punishment fair? We discuss both sides of the issue.
This episode covers the Izak Rankine saga involving the Adelaide Crows player using a homophobic slur during a match against Collingwood. AFL journalist Eddie McGuire has reported that Rankine will be suspended for 5 weeks as a result. We hear the initial news break, followed by listeners calling in to share their thoughts. Some argue the suspension is too harsh given Rankine's remorse and the impact on his mental health. Others say it's a fair punishment that sends an important message about stamping out hurtful language.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I heard podcasts here more mixed one or two point
three podcasts playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart
app As the Isaac Rankin saga dragged into a third day,
sounds like it has all been concluded. Last night, Eddie
McGuire went on his show Footy Classified.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I believe he was on, Sorry if that's incorrect, Yes
it was, and said this.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Tonight, I can tell you Isaac Crankin's season is over.
Tonight the AFL will send a letter to the Adelaide
Football Club. I believe it's already arrived, and my understanding
is he will be suspended for five weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Five weeks for Isaac rankinfusing a homophobic slur. Sounds like
that's what the AFL has landed on after an investigation
that has involved them speaking to the Crows. They spoken
to Isaac, They've spoken to the Collingwood players involved, and
that means that Isaac Rankin, no matter what happens for
the Crows, will miss any Grand Final if they happen
to make it.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Take away the fact that you're not a Crow's fan,
your report fan. Do you think this is fair?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I think that that's the preset that the AFL has set.
I think that regardless of what you think of the word,
if you use it in your own home, which you
shouldn't do, there's no place.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
For that word.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Whatever that's that's that's on you. That's on you. Educate yourself,
do your own thing. But you can't say it on
a football field. There's been a precedent set where blokes,
five blokes in the last two years have been suspended
for he knows of them now five weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So this went crazy on Facebook. As you can imagine.
Someone raised a good point. Punishing the team is Unjust
a big personal fine is better.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, that's not how it works. No, you can't just punish.
You can't just punish by finding it when they all
make so much money.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And do you think that this potentially could affect the
Grand finale win or loss?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Isaac Rankin is one of the crowsy and he'll regret
this for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Someone also wrote, and this is what I hate is
this is why this word just needs to be stamped out.
Someone wrote in our Facebook page, it's Aussie slang. It's
what we're known for worldwide. No, that's not that's not
Ozzy slang. That's a word that should just be banned.
It's offense and hurtful.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You just can't say that word. And I'm sorry if
you want to say that word. But there are so
many insults you can say in a football field and
not get suspended for Just do one of those.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
You can like your mum's your mom, your.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Mom's your dad, your dad, your mum's your mom.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
To be perfectly honest, and you can hear it on
like the umpire mike's and the crowd mics and stuff.
You hear football players all the time in the AFL
saying things even that involve like the C word and
that as much as it's an angry word, you can
say that on the football field and it's not a slur.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Can you? You kind of half told me this morning?
Where did this come from? Do we know this now?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So as the investigation's gone on, we've heard more and
more about it. Sounds like the Crows when they were
talking back and trying to defend Isaac and get him
to play, obviously as it is their responsibility to do.
Sounds like on Collingwood's team, Dan Houston plays for them.
Dan Houston used to play for Port Adelaide. Last year
in the Showdown, Dan Houston knocked out Isaac Rankin with
(03:06):
a bump. It sounds like that came up again on
Saturday night, whether it was Dan saying it or another
Collingwood player saying it to Isaac. You know you knock
you out again? Rah rah rah, And that riled up Isaac.
No matter how riled up you are, Please use other words. Yeah,
use other get angry in other ways.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Just no slurs, breath stinks or something pretty, please, something offensive.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
This has got a whole bunch of people online talking,
a whole bunch of people calling and calling in Kim
in Seaford Meadows. Meadows has given a sur buzz, Kimmy,
what do you reckon?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Well, I'm my husband and I were discussing this actually
last night when Ednie Maguire first put it across over
in his show, I was just flicking through and just
the way he said it, I found it very, very harsh.
And my biggest concern, as I said to my husband
being a mother, that my concern is his mental health
(03:59):
now is actually yeah, yeah, how's this going to affect
him mentally? Knowing that he's so damn hard to get
where he is. Why couldn't he a FL just give him, say,
I don't know, a two week suspension. That's fine, because
I've noticed. I'm not a big AFL supporter. I follow
it because I'm a book I'm a sports person, and
(04:20):
I follow just about every sport. I feel that they
don't give the same penalty or punishment to the same
to the Yeah, the same ruling to everyone.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
What I will say is the last over the last
two years, there've been I think five, maybe now six
instances of someone using just this specific words, the specific
slur that he said, and all of them have been
banned for like three to six games. So you just
you just know, now, even in your mind as a player,
even if it doesn't mean anything to you, that word,
(04:53):
you just know, Hey, you know what, I just can't
say that one on a footy field.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, and you mentioned the mental health of him, What
about all the mental health of all the people that
he's exactly well yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Well, I mean yeah, I understand that as well. That's
the thing, but the biggest thing is, like, yes, that person,
I mean, for both of them. He was remorse. He
turned around and apologized and all that sort of stuff,
but also his teammates the whole lot. I mean, they've
worked them hard to be it's the Crows like I
come from Sydney and I follow the Crows because I
moved here. But my biggest concern is mental health is
(05:24):
such a big thing. Yes, for both of them. But now,
as you said, he yes, he's going to remember this
for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Other kids will see this happening and go, oh my god,
that is a really bad word.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I'll never use that. I think it's a lesson that
he's teaching all of us.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, it's a lesson that we should have learned by
the fact of my.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Biggest My biggest concern was was Eddie Maguire. I think
the way he said it, yes, because he's a colin.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He's calling it's easy to get understand that. We get that. Hey, Kim, No,
we do understand.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I one hundred percent agree as Isaac as much.
If you're sorry for Isaac, No, Isaac made a stupid
mistake and he deserves to be punished for it, but
he also now has to live with this forever.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Taylor Walker's had to live with what he did.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
And he's lived on and apologized and.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I'm not going to defend what either of them said,
but they can still be good people.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, we're not saying he's a bad person. He's made
a bad mistake, a stupid mistake.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Dave, I made deep voice, Dave, what do you have
to say about this?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Mate?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You're a big Crow's fan.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
I am, I am. But at the end of the day,
he made I know it's a stupid mistake, but he
made a mistake. And you do the crime, you do
the time. Yeah, as has been said, he's going to
have to live with this for the rest of his life.
If his actions cost the Crows the Grand Final, he's
going to live with that. Yeah, you know, it was stupid.
(06:46):
It was done in the heat of the moment, But
at the end of the day, you know, there are
plenty of people around and I appreciate the previous call
of comments, but there are plenty of people around the
supporting with his mental health. It's just a really stupid
thing to do and he should have known better.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Absolutely, Dave. Absolutely, I couldn't add to it. Thank you
so much, Dave, Thank you, Dave. We always appreciate your opinion. Actually,
there was a comment actually from someone who wrote in saying,
most of the comments that I've been reading here, they're
part of the problem. It's missing the point. This is
a word that I was called every day at high school.
I still have trauma about this thirty years ago. You
can ask any gay person. This isn't about anyone being soft.
(07:24):
It's not about a work agenda AFL, this AFL that
it's just a word that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You just can't use in society these days.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Isaac Rankin is going to be banned for five games,
according to Eddie McGuire last night on Footy Classified.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Sorry one six.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Tonight, I can tell you Isaac Crankin's season is over.
Tonight the AFL will send a letter to the Adelaide
Football Club. I believe it's already arrived, and my understanding
is he will be suspended for five weeks.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That we expect to drop this morning officially from the AFL.
The Crows will have a chance to appeal it, but
all things being equal, I would imagine Isaac Rankin's season
is done and he will miss whatever finals charge the
Crows have. So to people, I've got a whole bunch
of opinions.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yep. On this thirty one two three.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Steven Elizabeth, what's your thoughts on this? As a massive
Crows fan?
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I am. I am a massive Crows fan. I don't
support in ranking and what he did or said, that's
That's not where I'm going with it. But who deems
that word to be offensive? I have many, many gay
friends who use that word all the time, and in
their eyes, it's just a word. In the seventies, gays
(08:38):
referred to themselves as that. So for me, I'm an
overweight guy play sport, I get called fatty. My son's
a ranger, he gets called you know, jinger Naki. You know,
being a rang is something you can't choose. I can
choose to be fat, but like bring that being a
ranger you can't choose. You know, people saying that's spawning events. Come,
I rang, You've got no soul? But who deems the word.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
To be a lot of people it's a soul crushing
word to a lot of gay men.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
And that's that's okay, so is a lot of other words.
But I just want to know, I understand the N word.
We don't use that. Back from the days when you know,
slavery was around and all that sort of stuff. But
you know, I just I just we need to probably
have you know, I'm more of an understanding of why
we don't use that word, because if you're around twenty twenty, gol,
(09:29):
I've got like ten or so gay friends who don't
find that word offensive at all, No.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Steve, I get. And there are a lot of people
nodding along to you right now.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
We work with two gay people that are in our
producers with right now, and they despise that word, and
that is the word to them that is on part
with as you said, the word.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And the intension behind the word. Steve.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, okay, Steve.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I play amateur footy and I get it, and I
love talking smack with other people. I just think that
we have reached a point in twenty twenty five where,
to be honest, it's pretty much that word and the
end word, don't say them, and it's the other things,
like you can you can ants around the other things
on a football field. You want to talk about someone's
(10:11):
hair color, maybe that is very offensive to some people,
but it's not as offensive to them as this word.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
But how do we know who's.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I think the overwhelming majority of gay people and even
young kids that are going to be gay.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Teenage kids find that really offensive?
Speaker 8 (10:31):
Okay, And how long have people found that word offensive?
Because in the seventies, I agree.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
A word that's bad.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
No, I understand that people have an opinion that that
word is bad, right, But if you talk to a
whole heap of other people, they'll they'll give you another
word that's bad in their eyes about their situation. So
where do we stop? Do we have? You know, we've
done down this world of political correctness? No, where do
we stop?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I get it? I do get it. I do get it.
And look, I'll out myself here.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I'm far from a left wing person, and my political
votes have always leaned in another direction. But this is
just one of the things we can go. You know what,
I'm just not going to say that word. But it's
also not say that word.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
You say that word, you get a fine. That's what
the a f L has deemed.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
A bad word.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's yeah, it's it's very easy to just not say
one word. Meg in Parallewi, Meg, what do you reckon?
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Look on? With the with Steve? Look, look, I understand
when I heard that F word with Luke, my heart
melt because it was a different situation. You're on a
footy field. What about mister Kuhn, Mister Kuhn Chinge, that's
his surname. Society, the AFL, I joked, I found my
(11:45):
old teddy bear the other night and it's like, oh,
I just have a golliwog. What can I call a golliwog?
It's seriously, it's it's not who put football is precious.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It's just progression.
Speaker 9 (11:59):
The AFL is soft.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Do you know any gay men?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Meg?
Speaker 9 (12:04):
My cousin was, and unfortunately he died of age age.
I love, loved, loved, loved him.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Would you feel if you had a son that was
gay and someone called him that F word?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
How would you feel?
Speaker 9 (12:16):
He's tough. I do know gay people, but we're not
talking about in society. We're talking on a football field.
AFL is soft.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But they're also there are also idols. Kids look up
to these to these men as idols as well.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
I say, keep it on the football field. Who reported him?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
If nothing else, hey, Meg, if nothing else, thank you
for your opinion, Thank you for calling us.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We do appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
If nothing else, you take away all connotations for the
word and you go back and you look at the
list of blokes that have been suspended for the last year.
You've got Jeremy Finlayson got three games to saying the
same word, will Power five games to saying the same word,
Lance Collard six games, Jack Graham five games, realc Andrew
five games. And now there's a precedent. You just know
if it's a word, I think it's soft. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I don't want to be suspended rule for three to
six games. It just happens now, it's the precedent has
been set. Chris in Ridge haven last one for US Man.
What do he got?
Speaker 10 (13:14):
I don't condone what he did, Like I think what
he did was probably wrong. They know not to do it.
But I just don't think Eddie McGuire should have been
the one to report it. I think the AFL should
have been there or the Crows should have been the
ones to actually put the hand up and say this
is the thing. Not Eddie McGuire, I agree with. He
seemed a gloat a bit when he was saying it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He's probably just had a little pep in his step
because he was the first person to break the biggest
story in Australia as opposed to it being against the Crows.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well that's Eddie, but.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't normally defend him, but yeah,
he just sort of kept his mouth shut until it
was actually released by the AFL.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
All the Crows sure, absolutely fine opinion, Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I know there's a lot of people who'd like to
direct the Eddie McGuire instead of Isac Raygon.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, so true. Thank you so much for calling, Chris,
and do all I calls.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, really, I appreciate all of you and we still
love all of you.
I heard podcasts here more mixed one or two point
three podcasts playlists and listen live on the Free iHeart
app As the Isaac Rankin saga dragged into a third day,
sounds like it has all been concluded. Last night, Eddie
McGuire went on his show Footy Classified.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I believe he was on, Sorry if that's incorrect, Yes
it was, and said this.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Tonight, I can tell you Isaac Crankin's season is over.
Tonight the AFL will send a letter to the Adelaide
Football Club. I believe it's already arrived, and my understanding
is he will be suspended for five weeks.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Five weeks for Isaac rankinfusing a homophobic slur. Sounds like
that's what the AFL has landed on after an investigation
that has involved them speaking to the Crows. They spoken
to Isaac, They've spoken to the Collingwood players involved, and
that means that Isaac Rankin, no matter what happens for
the Crows, will miss any Grand Final if they happen
to make it.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Take away the fact that you're not a Crow's fan,
your report fan. Do you think this is fair?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I think that that's the preset that the AFL has set.
I think that regardless of what you think of the word,
if you use it in your own home, which you
shouldn't do, there's no place.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
For that word.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Whatever that's that's that's on you. That's on you. Educate yourself,
do your own thing. But you can't say it on
a football field. There's been a precedent set where blokes,
five blokes in the last two years have been suspended
for he knows of them now five weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
So this went crazy on Facebook. As you can imagine.
Someone raised a good point. Punishing the team is Unjust
a big personal fine is better.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
No, that's not how it works. No, you can't just punish.
You can't just punish by finding it when they all
make so much money.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
And do you think that this potentially could affect the
Grand finale win or loss?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Isaac Rankin is one of the crowsy and he'll regret
this for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Someone also wrote, and this is what I hate is
this is why this word just needs to be stamped out.
Someone wrote in our Facebook page, it's Aussie slang. It's
what we're known for worldwide. No, that's not that's not
Ozzy slang. That's a word that should just be banned.
It's offense and hurtful.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You just can't say that word. And I'm sorry if
you want to say that word. But there are so
many insults you can say in a football field and
not get suspended for Just do one of those.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
You can like your mum's your mom, your.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Mom's your dad, your dad, your mum's your mom.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
To be perfectly honest, and you can hear it on
like the umpire mike's and the crowd mics and stuff.
You hear football players all the time in the AFL
saying things even that involve like the C word and
that as much as it's an angry word, you can
say that on the football field and it's not a slur.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Can you? You kind of half told me this morning?
Where did this come from? Do we know this now?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So as the investigation's gone on, we've heard more and
more about it. Sounds like the Crows when they were
talking back and trying to defend Isaac and get him
to play, obviously as it is their responsibility to do.
Sounds like on Collingwood's team, Dan Houston plays for them.
Dan Houston used to play for Port Adelaide. Last year
in the Showdown, Dan Houston knocked out Isaac Rankin with
(03:06):
a bump. It sounds like that came up again on
Saturday night, whether it was Dan saying it or another
Collingwood player saying it to Isaac. You know you knock
you out again? Rah rah rah, And that riled up Isaac.
No matter how riled up you are, Please use other words. Yeah,
use other get angry in other ways.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Just no slurs, breath stinks or something pretty, please, something offensive.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
This has got a whole bunch of people online talking,
a whole bunch of people calling and calling in Kim
in Seaford Meadows. Meadows has given a sur buzz, Kimmy,
what do you reckon?
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Well, I'm my husband and I were discussing this actually
last night when Ednie Maguire first put it across over
in his show, I was just flicking through and just
the way he said it, I found it very, very harsh.
And my biggest concern, as I said to my husband
being a mother, that my concern is his mental health
(03:59):
now is actually yeah, yeah, how's this going to affect
him mentally? Knowing that he's so damn hard to get
where he is. Why couldn't he a FL just give him, say,
I don't know, a two week suspension. That's fine, because
I've noticed. I'm not a big AFL supporter. I follow
it because I'm a book I'm a sports person, and
(04:20):
I follow just about every sport. I feel that they
don't give the same penalty or punishment to the same
to the Yeah, the same ruling to everyone.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
What I will say is the last over the last
two years, there've been I think five, maybe now six
instances of someone using just this specific words, the specific
slur that he said, and all of them have been
banned for like three to six games. So you just
you just know, now, even in your mind as a player,
even if it doesn't mean anything to you, that word,
(04:53):
you just know, Hey, you know what, I just can't
say that one on a footy field.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, and you mentioned the mental health of him, What
about all the mental health of all the people that
he's exactly well yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Well, I mean yeah, I understand that as well. That's
the thing, but the biggest thing is, like, yes, that person,
I mean, for both of them. He was remorse. He
turned around and apologized and all that sort of stuff,
but also his teammates the whole lot. I mean, they've
worked them hard to be it's the Crows like I
come from Sydney and I follow the Crows because I
moved here. But my biggest concern is mental health is
(05:24):
such a big thing. Yes, for both of them. But now,
as you said, he yes, he's going to remember this
for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Other kids will see this happening and go, oh my god,
that is a really bad word.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
I'll never use that. I think it's a lesson that
he's teaching all of us.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, it's a lesson that we should have learned by
the fact of my.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Biggest My biggest concern was was Eddie Maguire. I think
the way he said it, yes, because he's a colin.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
He's calling it's easy to get understand that. We get that. Hey, Kim, No,
we do understand.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
And I one hundred percent agree as Isaac as much.
If you're sorry for Isaac, No, Isaac made a stupid
mistake and he deserves to be punished for it, but
he also now has to live with this forever.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Taylor Walker's had to live with what he did.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
And he's lived on and apologized and.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
And I'm not going to defend what either of them said,
but they can still be good people.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Yeah, we're not saying he's a bad person. He's made
a bad mistake, a stupid mistake.
Speaker 5 (06:17):
Dave, I made deep voice, Dave, what do you have
to say about this?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Mate?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
You're a big Crow's fan.
Speaker 7 (06:23):
I am, I am. But at the end of the day,
he made I know it's a stupid mistake, but he
made a mistake. And you do the crime, you do
the time. Yeah, as has been said, he's going to
have to live with this for the rest of his life.
If his actions cost the Crows the Grand Final, he's
going to live with that. Yeah, you know, it was stupid.
(06:46):
It was done in the heat of the moment, But
at the end of the day, you know, there are
plenty of people around and I appreciate the previous call
of comments, but there are plenty of people around the
supporting with his mental health. It's just a really stupid
thing to do and he should have known better.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Absolutely, Dave. Absolutely, I couldn't add to it. Thank you
so much, Dave, Thank you, Dave. We always appreciate your opinion. Actually,
there was a comment actually from someone who wrote in saying,
most of the comments that I've been reading here, they're
part of the problem. It's missing the point. This is
a word that I was called every day at high school.
I still have trauma about this thirty years ago. You
can ask any gay person. This isn't about anyone being soft.
(07:24):
It's not about a work agenda AFL, this AFL that
it's just a word that.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
You just can't use in society these days.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Isaac Rankin is going to be banned for five games,
according to Eddie McGuire last night on Footy Classified.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
Sorry one six.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Tonight, I can tell you Isaac Crankin's season is over.
Tonight the AFL will send a letter to the Adelaide
Football Club. I believe it's already arrived, and my understanding
is he will be suspended for five weeks.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
That we expect to drop this morning officially from the AFL.
The Crows will have a chance to appeal it, but
all things being equal, I would imagine Isaac Rankin's season
is done and he will miss whatever finals charge the
Crows have. So to people, I've got a whole bunch
of opinions.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yep. On this thirty one two three.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Steven Elizabeth, what's your thoughts on this? As a massive
Crows fan?
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I am. I am a massive Crows fan. I don't
support in ranking and what he did or said, that's
That's not where I'm going with it. But who deems
that word to be offensive? I have many, many gay
friends who use that word all the time, and in
their eyes, it's just a word. In the seventies, gays
(08:38):
referred to themselves as that. So for me, I'm an
overweight guy play sport, I get called fatty. My son's
a ranger, he gets called you know, jinger Naki. You know,
being a rang is something you can't choose. I can
choose to be fat, but like bring that being a
ranger you can't choose. You know, people saying that's spawning events. Come,
I rang, You've got no soul? But who deems the word.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
To be a lot of people it's a soul crushing
word to a lot of gay men.
Speaker 8 (09:07):
And that's that's okay, so is a lot of other words.
But I just want to know, I understand the N word.
We don't use that. Back from the days when you know,
slavery was around and all that sort of stuff. But
you know, I just I just we need to probably
have you know, I'm more of an understanding of why
we don't use that word, because if you're around twenty twenty, gol,
(09:29):
I've got like ten or so gay friends who don't
find that word offensive at all, No.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Steve, I get. And there are a lot of people
nodding along to you right now.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
We work with two gay people that are in our
producers with right now, and they despise that word, and
that is the word to them that is on part
with as you said, the word.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
And the intension behind the word. Steve.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, okay, Steve.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I play amateur footy and I get it, and I
love talking smack with other people. I just think that
we have reached a point in twenty twenty five where,
to be honest, it's pretty much that word and the
end word, don't say them, and it's the other things,
like you can you can ants around the other things
on a football field. You want to talk about someone's
(10:11):
hair color, maybe that is very offensive to some people,
but it's not as offensive to them as this word.
Speaker 8 (10:17):
But how do we know who's.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I think the overwhelming majority of gay people and even
young kids that are going to be gay.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Teenage kids find that really offensive?
Speaker 8 (10:31):
Okay, And how long have people found that word offensive?
Because in the seventies, I agree.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
A word that's bad.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
No, I understand that people have an opinion that that
word is bad, right, But if you talk to a
whole heap of other people, they'll they'll give you another
word that's bad in their eyes about their situation. So
where do we stop? Do we have? You know, we've
done down this world of political correctness? No, where do
we stop?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I get it? I do get it. I do get it.
And look, I'll out myself here.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I'm far from a left wing person, and my political
votes have always leaned in another direction. But this is
just one of the things we can go. You know what,
I'm just not going to say that word. But it's
also not say that word.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
You say that word, you get a fine. That's what
the a f L has deemed.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
A bad word.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
It's yeah, it's it's very easy to just not say
one word. Meg in Parallewi, Meg, what do you reckon?
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Look on? With the with Steve? Look, look, I understand
when I heard that F word with Luke, my heart
melt because it was a different situation. You're on a
footy field. What about mister Kuhn, Mister Kuhn Chinge, that's
his surname. Society, the AFL, I joked, I found my
(11:45):
old teddy bear the other night and it's like, oh,
I just have a golliwog. What can I call a golliwog?
It's seriously, it's it's not who put football is precious.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
It's just progression.
Speaker 9 (11:59):
The AFL is soft.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Do you know any gay men?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Meg?
Speaker 9 (12:04):
My cousin was, and unfortunately he died of age age.
I love, loved, loved, loved him.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Would you feel if you had a son that was
gay and someone called him that F word?
Speaker 5 (12:14):
How would you feel?
Speaker 9 (12:16):
He's tough. I do know gay people, but we're not
talking about in society. We're talking on a football field.
AFL is soft.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But they're also there are also idols. Kids look up
to these to these men as idols as well.
Speaker 9 (12:32):
I say, keep it on the football field. Who reported him?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
If nothing else, hey, Meg, if nothing else, thank you
for your opinion, Thank you for calling us.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
We do appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
If nothing else, you take away all connotations for the
word and you go back and you look at the
list of blokes that have been suspended for the last year.
You've got Jeremy Finlayson got three games to saying the
same word, will Power five games to saying the same word,
Lance Collard six games, Jack Graham five games, realc Andrew
five games. And now there's a precedent. You just know
if it's a word, I think it's soft. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I don't want to be suspended rule for three to
six games. It just happens now, it's the precedent has
been set. Chris in Ridge haven last one for US Man.
What do he got?
Speaker 10 (13:14):
I don't condone what he did, Like I think what
he did was probably wrong. They know not to do it.
But I just don't think Eddie McGuire should have been
the one to report it. I think the AFL should
have been there or the Crows should have been the
ones to actually put the hand up and say this
is the thing. Not Eddie McGuire, I agree with. He
seemed a gloat a bit when he was saying it.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
He's probably just had a little pep in his step
because he was the first person to break the biggest
story in Australia as opposed to it being against the Crows.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Well that's Eddie, but.
Speaker 10 (13:43):
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't normally defend him, but yeah,
he just sort of kept his mouth shut until it
was actually released by the AFL.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
All the Crows sure, absolutely fine opinion, Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I know there's a lot of people who'd like to
direct the Eddie McGuire instead of Isac Raygon.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Yeah, so true. Thank you so much for calling, Chris,
and do all I calls.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, really, I appreciate all of you and we still
love all of you.
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