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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
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sparking anything for you, thirty one O two three, you've
got to help out. Natalie in win Vail. Who's on
the line, Natalie, what is your DM dilemma?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Hello? Well, my dilemma is my only child. My daughter
Jada is about to finish year twelve, and I'm not
coping very well with all of this. Okay, Yeah, so
not only that, she got a l's and p's this year,
so I waive her off every morning and pack.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The lunch box.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
I'm down to free lunch boxes to pack. Ody. God, Wow,
every every tooth that's fallen out of her mouth, of kept,
every picture, every you name it.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You feel like she's leaving the nest.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Oh yeah she's not, but she's I'm just not coping
with the pea plates and the formal and the graduation
and the UNI dates, and I'm just like I can't breathe.
And then she's thrown it in that she's staying at
her boyfriends for the first time in about a month.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, So Natalie, how does this all affect you? You say
you can't cope with it, but what does it what
does it leave you doing?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I'm just like paing, I just don't know what to do.
I'm just like other mothers. I know. I've got friends
that have got two or three or more children, so
they're like, oh, yeah, now all good there, and I'm like.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
No, I'm not ready.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
The apron strings have to be released, and I.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
What are you going to miss the most?
Speaker 7 (02:05):
Natalie packing the lunches and all the work that she's doing,
like I've been Yeah, so this year has just been
our though She's she's made the masterpieces, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But I just love that you're still packing lunches. I
was making my own from year seven. I to pack
my own lunch You're a great mom.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Yeah, and these aren't just lunchbox these are like people
are actually hanging around her lunchbox to see what she
has every days. There's no might sandwich in this lunchbox.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm telling you, Natalie, we have got Jada on the
line with us.
Speaker 8 (02:40):
Good morning, Jada, Hi Jada.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I don't think you knew why we were calling you
this morning, but you've just heard your mother.
Speaker 8 (02:47):
How do you feel?
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (02:50):
I mean with the lunch shops.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
She won't actually let me pack my own so she
loves doing job.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Are you feeling sad as well?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
No?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Do you feel sad for your mom though?
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Yeah, just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But can you promise her that you're not just going
to leave and start your boyfriends all the time.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You're still going to stay with you her?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And if she wants to, can she pack your lunch
box like on the weekend?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I mean, and we've got like eight days left, she's
got two weeks and then she's got another week of packing.
But I did say she can pack my union lunch
if she really wants to.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Jada's rocking up to UNI with a Bento box her
boyfriend's house with some packed lunch and wrapped sandwiches.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
You don't know how.
Speaker 8 (03:37):
Oh girls?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Okay, Well, I reckon that there are a lot of
people that have been in this position around Adelaide and
they have packed that last lunch and they might have
some tips Natalie on how to deal with this and Jada,
or maybe some tips on how to be nice and
forgiving and thought.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Thank you for your mom if you're in this position
or you know, we all have these same kind of
feelings at those pivotal moments when they're going to school
for the first time or they're going.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
To high school.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
If you've got any advice for Natalie, please call us
thirteen one or two three.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
Slide into our DMS. We will help you out. Adelaide
will help you out.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Nat did just that and we spoke to her just
before and her little daughter Jada as well.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Well, my dilemma is my only child. My daughter Jada
is about to finish year twelve, and I'm not coping
very well with all of this, not only that she
got a l's and p's this year, so I waive
her off every morning and pack.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
The lunch box.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
I'm down to three lunch boxes to pack since kindy.
Speaker 8 (04:37):
So Jada is the only child.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
It's NAT's only link to the school, and now she's
riding off in the Sunschet.
Speaker 8 (04:43):
She's staying with her boyfriend next time.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You get it when they go to kindy, when they
finish primary school. And now she's at the very end
of this and it is so hard as a mom to.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Let that go.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
How can we help Vanessa and Elizabeth East? You've been
in this spot before? What do you reckon?
Speaker 10 (04:58):
I have my daughter moved to Townsville with their partner,
and I think even though we don't want them to go,
we need to let them spread their wing then find themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And you know what, do you think your daughter will
always come back like she's gonna go away for a bit,
but she'll always come home.
Speaker 10 (05:15):
Yeah, she always comes back. And when they do come back,
to raid the fridge, the pantry or whatever they can
before they leave. So even though they're far away, there
are only a phone call or you know, video time,
so they're close by.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Do you feel like that heart like gut wrenching thing
when you're not close? You know, that separation anxiety when
you're not when you know she's in another state.
Speaker 10 (05:36):
Yeah, and then knowing that her partner's been sent to
Papa New Guinea as well, so she's there alone. So
knowing that she's there. But knowing she's you know, spreading
her wings and finding her way in life by herself
is a good thing. And I know that I don't
(05:57):
have to worry about her. So yeah, just know that
your children at some stage do have to fly.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
And you're so right. Thank you so much for sharing that.
That's so true.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Robin Englenewe, what's your advice for Natalie?
Speaker 11 (06:11):
Continue to be a smother mother because that way they
always know you're there.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (06:19):
We've got a twenty five year old and a twenty
one year old, and like the last caller, our daughter
decided two days before we were moving, I'm going to
stay with my boyfriend. We moved from Townsville to Adelaide
and we were like, oh, no, you're not. She now
lives back with us and we're moving to Victoria soon
(06:42):
and she's I'm coming with you.
Speaker 12 (06:44):
Oh, you're holding your kids back a little bit by
doing that.
Speaker 11 (06:49):
No way, She's ye her choice and we just offer
them a lifestyle and she still does her own thing.
We do our thing. We've been caravaning for three months.
She's got the house for herself, but she knows that
we can have fights and the first person she'll call
for advice is on her phone, Mama Bear.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Can I say just with the two boys in the studio,
Burjo and Max, you will never understand that bond that
a mum and a daughter have together.
Speaker 12 (07:20):
I'm unbreakable with my daughter.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
I love her. I'm a helicopter.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I've said this to my dad recently.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I was like, Dad, I love you so much, but
if I'm sick or I need a hug, I go
to my mom.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
It's just a mom thing. You can't break it. I'm sorry.
It doesn't take away from being your dad. We love
our dad, good dad.
Speaker 12 (07:34):
But my point is is that, like I also need
to enable my daughter to individuate and be her own person.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Mate.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You're lying. You will never let her go. You're the
biggest helicopter parent.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
Going on to Kentucky with her when she goes.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I know all right.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
More here Melissa and Aberfoyle Parking list. You got any
advice for Nat absolutely?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
First of all, good luck going for all of this.
It is scary for us as parents, but you have
got this. All we can do is that we can
trust in ourselves that we did the best record with
our kids, that they know they're always welcome home here
once when they if they with and when they choose
to leave, they're free to do so. Like I was
(08:15):
worried with one of my kids and he went down
that wrong path for a little while, but he pulled
himself back into it and now he's almost a full
time concrete. The youngest daughter, she's finishing school next term
for good, Like she's completely done. I'm absolutely freaked out
for her. But the only thing we can do is
(08:37):
trust that we've done the best job that we had
possibly be able to do. They know that we're always
going to be here for them, regardless of what happened.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I mean, that's our job is to teach our children
to be able to fend for themselves. But then when
it comes to fending for themselves, we don't want them
to fend for themselves.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
We want them to need us.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
You're just going to trust that you've done the work.
You've done the work, and they're all going to be okay.
Let him fly from the nest, all right. Up next,
we're going to hear from Nat and see if any
of this advice has helped her out.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
All right, We've got and had a very emotional mum
on the phone with us today. A lot of moms
around South Australia are going through this this week where
their children are finishing year twelve, and she's been counting
down the last lunch boxes she has to make in
a sad way.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
She's really struggling, and I get it. We've all been
there when your kids go through that next stage.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
She's only got one daughter, it's Jada, and she's graduating.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
There are no no four lunchboxes. There are no I
need to iron my address for school, but there are.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
You can still do that and if I if my
mom would still wait my.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Lunch, I would gladly accept it.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Cerny wan I do three give us your advice, Emily
and port Wlanga.
Speaker 8 (09:40):
What do you want to say to Natalie.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
I want her to know, no matter how old her
kid is, don't stop doing it. My brother's twenty eight,
he lives out of home. He works with my dad
at the same place, and my mom sends a packed
lunch with my dad to work every day for him,
and she still does his washing.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Okay, this is actually where I'm going to go against
what you're saying, Emily, because it's fine to do for girls.
Because we have we're wired differently. When a mom still
makes lunches for their adult children and does everything for them,
they then marry someone and expect their wife will do
the same thing.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
No, yeah, they do.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I've seen it.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I've seen it before. They just expect other woman in
the house, she's gonna make my lunch. No, you're a man,
you can make it yourself.
Speaker 9 (10:27):
It's funny you say that because he expects my sister
in law just to pick up his dirty washing or whatever,
and she will do it. But the thing is, my
partner and I still live at home and we're both
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
My mum and will.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
Still send with me and my partner to work every
day with the packed lunch. He still does all our washing.
And I've made it very quite clear to my partner,
do not expect me to you when we move out.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
Right, there's the advice.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, the advice is you keep them in your life,
but also let's have some boundaries.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, baby boys too much?
Speaker 8 (11:01):
Okay, I like that from Emily.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
We've had it from all angles, from the people of
Adelaide this morning and Natalie from Winbos been listening to
it all. Natalie, now that you've heard all of the advices,
any of it hit home. Is any of it helping
you cope with Jada's impending graduation?
Speaker 5 (11:18):
Well, I'm just wiping the tears away listening to and
I also still pack my hubbies lumps too, she is,
I'm taking it all on board. Is it making it
any easier?
Speaker 4 (11:34):
No, Natalie, what's he having for lunch today?
Speaker 7 (11:39):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
No, he's a night shift worker.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
It's dinner.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Well, we have dinner and then I send him a
lunch box off for night shift. So Spectator's got her
grazing plate and her homemade lasagna and salad.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Do you know what when she grows up? And I'm
sure you're the same with your mom.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Sometimes it's really nice to get home and you see
you open your fridge and there's something like a soup
or a pasta sauce from mum.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So he doesn't stop. You can still make things for
her just because she's not at school.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I went to my mom and dad's house for dinner
last night, Natalie, because don't want to cook all those
nights a week, so it's.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Not to hang out with them every now and then.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yes, No, I actually don't have a relationship with my mother.
So this is why I've gone on the other angle
to my daughter. So I'll give them her everything that
I never received.
Speaker 12 (12:24):
Natalie, my parents are away, and my ex, who always
cooks me, she's going away this weekend. So I'll take
a grazing plate that lasagna if you're offerings.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So easy.
Speaker 13 (12:35):
I know the address, the address at the station. Natalie,
you're a beautiful mom, and I love that you're breaking
the cycle with your mom.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
So oh, thank you. Guys think of me in a
few days.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Thank you.