Father Chris has called in to tell Hayley & Max all about the strange things people have done in church!
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
I Heard podcasts, him More Mix one or two point
three podcasts, playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app.
We have been fascinated with the story of the Labor
Energy Minister, our National Energy Minister, Chris Bowen, rolling into
church on Sunday morning over there in Sydney and just
tucking into some pastor in the front row, showing down.
(00:32):
There's photos of him. He is chowing down his a
mouth full of pastors while the priest is up there
doing his thing. We've been asking you, Adelaide, what is
the what are the things that you've done in church
that you maybe shouldn't have been doing. And now we
have someone who's seen it all.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, this is like like someone very special joining our show.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, someone closer to the Man above than we are.
Father Chris Betting. He's an Anglican priest. He joins us
on the line. Now, good morning, Father Chris.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Thank you. It's COREACTI to be with you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Father Chris. Have you seen anything like this before where
we had a minister, a federal minister, not a minister
minister eating pastor in the front row.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Look, I have seen many people eat inside churches and
we should remember that the Mass or the Holy Communion
is itself a meal, so actually everybody was eating there.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, but some people are just eating a little wafers
the body of Christ, not a full carbonara.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Have you seen like people bring in sushi in actual
meals like burritos and stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Without a doubt? I have you know. I've been a
pre spur over twenty years, and I have seen people
everything from pulling a lolly out of their bag discreetly
to people bringing Yeah, absolutely, they'll they'll pull out a sandwich.
I've seen people arrive with a coffee that they've picked
up on drive through on the way.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh, I would do that?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Is that a no? No?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I would totally bring in coffee to church.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think you meant to be drinking coffee in church.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You've got the blood of Christ up the front.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Jesus would have loved coffee.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I must say, like these days, I'm pretty happy when
people make it to church. I'm actually usually quite honored that,
especially on a cold morning like like we're having at
the moment, I'm thank you for getting out of bed
and getting.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I think you'd get more people there enjoying it
if they could do something else while they're.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
There, like people are too distracted these days.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
People are distracted. Yeah, not on your phone, that's disrespectful,
but eating.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And we should remember there's such a thing as cafe church,
and there are pub churches where people actually quite genuinely
enjoy a meal. And the early church actually gathered in
people's homes around the meal. So maybe mister Bowen's onto something.
Maybe some churches need to have a bit more food
to make people welcome. I think he made a mistake.
(02:46):
It sounds like he just bumbled into a tent at
the festival where there was a mass happening and got
a bit confused.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, he's all dressed up in a black suit
like he's meant to be there.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, anywhere he was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
To an extent, Well, Father Chris, sounds like you're quite
a modern, a progressive man of the church. I recently
watched Conclave and noted that I know it's not documentary,
but they were vaping in the Vatican. So should we
expect that sort of gear on a Sunday morning Mass.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The thing about like for those of us who work
like at the cold face, at the grassroots of ministry,
the people who actually come to our churches are just
ordinary people, and that includes people who need to sneak
a dorry occasional.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Not in the church, surely, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Look, I showed up one Easter Day in the morning
to get set up to find two young people actually smoking,
you know, more than a dirry in the porch of
the church, and I had to just say to them, look,
this is maybe not the best place. Maybe find somewhere
else for this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Come back after you've finished, though, if you just really
enjoy this mess.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Like we, you know, we will burn some incense to
take to take the smell away. Yeah. And when I
was a school chaplain, honestly, it was as though the
kids were just trying to mess with my head. The
things that would get there would be passing notes, they
would have signals, and the big one was if you
could make a noise without moving your lips so you
couldn't tell where the noise was coming from.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, you start a trend, so then sooner there's all
this noise happening, but nobody's you can't see who's doing it.
Keeps are amazing like that. They can just find the point,
you know, just to really get on your nerves.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I used to do that all the time. I used
to not move my lips and go I don't care.
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
When the teacher was talking there, just telling us about
jesus ascension back to the heavens, I don't care. In
one hand, Father.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Christ Bedding, thank you so much for joining us. Can
you be our official father of our show anytime,
I Heard podcasts, him More Mix one or two point
three podcasts, playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app.
We have been fascinated with the story of the Labor
Energy Minister, our National Energy Minister, Chris Bowen, rolling into
church on Sunday morning over there in Sydney and just
tucking into some pastor in the front row, showing down.
(00:32):
There's photos of him. He is chowing down his a
mouth full of pastors while the priest is up there
doing his thing. We've been asking you, Adelaide, what is
the what are the things that you've done in church
that you maybe shouldn't have been doing. And now we
have someone who's seen it all.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, this is like like someone very special joining our show.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yeah, someone closer to the Man above than we are.
Father Chris Betting. He's an Anglican priest. He joins us
on the line. Now, good morning, Father Chris.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Thank you. It's COREACTI to be with you.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Father Chris. Have you seen anything like this before where
we had a minister, a federal minister, not a minister
minister eating pastor in the front row.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Look, I have seen many people eat inside churches and
we should remember that the Mass or the Holy Communion
is itself a meal, so actually everybody was eating there.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, but some people are just eating a little wafers
the body of Christ, not a full carbonara.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Have you seen like people bring in sushi in actual
meals like burritos and stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Without a doubt? I have you know. I've been a
pre spur over twenty years, and I have seen people
everything from pulling a lolly out of their bag discreetly
to people bringing Yeah, absolutely, they'll they'll pull out a sandwich.
I've seen people arrive with a coffee that they've picked
up on drive through on the way.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Oh, I would do that?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Is that a no? No?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I would totally bring in coffee to church.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I think you meant to be drinking coffee in church.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You've got the blood of Christ up the front.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Jesus would have loved coffee.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I must say, like these days, I'm pretty happy when
people make it to church. I'm actually usually quite honored that,
especially on a cold morning like like we're having at
the moment, I'm thank you for getting out of bed
and getting.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I think you'd get more people there enjoying it
if they could do something else while they're.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
There, like people are too distracted these days.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
People are distracted. Yeah, not on your phone, that's disrespectful,
but eating.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And we should remember there's such a thing as cafe church,
and there are pub churches where people actually quite genuinely
enjoy a meal. And the early church actually gathered in
people's homes around the meal. So maybe mister Bowen's onto something.
Maybe some churches need to have a bit more food
to make people welcome. I think he made a mistake.
(02:46):
It sounds like he just bumbled into a tent at
the festival where there was a mass happening and got
a bit confused.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I mean, he's all dressed up in a black suit
like he's meant to be there.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, anywhere he was.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
To an extent, Well, Father Chris, sounds like you're quite
a modern, a progressive man of the church. I recently
watched Conclave and noted that I know it's not documentary,
but they were vaping in the Vatican. So should we
expect that sort of gear on a Sunday morning Mass.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
The thing about like for those of us who work
like at the cold face, at the grassroots of ministry,
the people who actually come to our churches are just
ordinary people, and that includes people who need to sneak
a dorry occasional.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Not in the church, surely, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Look, I showed up one Easter Day in the morning
to get set up to find two young people actually smoking,
you know, more than a dirry in the porch of
the church, and I had to just say to them, look,
this is maybe not the best place. Maybe find somewhere
else for this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Come back after you've finished, though, if you just really
enjoy this mess.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Like we, you know, we will burn some incense to
take to take the smell away. Yeah. And when I
was a school chaplain, honestly, it was as though the
kids were just trying to mess with my head. The
things that would get there would be passing notes, they
would have signals, and the big one was if you
could make a noise without moving your lips so you
couldn't tell where the noise was coming from.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, you start a trend, so then sooner there's all
this noise happening, but nobody's you can't see who's doing it.
Keeps are amazing like that. They can just find the point,
you know, just to really get on your nerves.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I used to do that all the time. I used
to not move my lips and go I don't care.
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
When the teacher was talking there, just telling us about
jesus ascension back to the heavens, I don't care. In
one hand, Father.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Christ Bedding, thank you so much for joining us. Can
you be our official father of our show anytime,
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