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Speaker 1 (00:00):
High fast South Coast get a I'm James Fantasy and
this episode's special guest is a man with a plan.
Actually he's a mayor with a master plan, Matthew Hatcher,
And there probably isn't anyone better qualified than this entrepreneur
and local politician to drive the community vision Bateman's Bay,
Maruya and Naruma will need for the next fifty or
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more years. You can still hear a twinge of that
native Alabama accent when Matt Hatcher talks so passionately about
his love of his adopted coastal home. He says, the
Euroidella is at a real crossroads for its future, and
the recent local government election result confirmed residents are open
to change and they want to get it right. Firstly,
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congratulations on your re election. You got almost thirty eight
percent of the first preference vote in the mayoral election
in twenty twenty four. It was really a landslide victory.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, it was quite amazing to see. I guess the
response from community. I think you speak for most counselors.
You do the job and you really pour your heart
into it, and you never really know where you're sitting
with community. You know you're out and about a lot,
and you hear a lot of positives, especially in my
case I did, and until the election comes and goes,
you don't really know how the community reads what you've done.
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So it was quite amazing to see the response. And
I'm very privileged to be elected again and proud of
what the previous council did and what hopefully we can
achieve with the new council as well.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And as you head into your second term, what are
your top priorities and how do you plan to consolidate
the success of your first term.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I think you know, it's a state in the federal level.
Quite often, when elections come around, there's a lot of
promises made and someone gets elected and now it's time
to deliver on these big promises. And for me at
a council level, it's more about staying steady, having a
good vision for the community, constantly checking in with them
and seeing where we're taking the show. And it's not about,
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you know, the next big project that we're going to build.
It's more about making sure that we're delivering on the
things that local councils supposed to deliver on. And you know,
some of the things from the from the previous council,
just in strategies around our grants and the way in
which we go after those, the toilet strategies. Some of
these things that are that are quite mundane and you know,
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the I guess the community expects, but don't really it's
not a big ticket item. It's it's more about what
for me and for the previous council. It's about getting
back to those basics. And I think we saw in
the last council term our record number of councils going
for special rate variations because of some of the decisions
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made in the past around accepting of grants. Obviously, coming
off the back of the bushfires and COVID, it put
a lot of councils in a precarious situation financially, and
one big push for us, obviously, with the current financial
situation around the whole country and the world world, is
making sure that we're really balancing our own books and
we're not looking at trying to go back to the
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rate payer for more money.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Previously, Matt, you have emphasized the importance of master planning
for Bateman's Bay, Mariya and Naroma. What are the key
challenges you see in updating these towns and how will
these plans impact residents and businesses.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I think master planning for our three major towns and
DCP changes for our towns are the big thing that
this next council will be addressing. It's something we started
on around eighteen months ago. Really, our plans for our
towns are out of date, that haven't been updated since
twenty eleven or even earlier some of them. So it's
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something we really have been working hard on with industry
and it's coming to community this sometime in November, and
it's going to be out on exhibition over summer for
Bateman's Bay in particular around the master plan of that town,
and when that comes back to council early next year,
that's going to be the signal to where we're going
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to be transitioning Bateman's Bay for the future. I've been
here for over twenty years and there hasn't been much
movement in Bateman's Bay. You've seen small businesses coming and going,
no one really there's been no infill in those towns
over this time, are very minimal, and you know, if
we're looking at the future of what we want the
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place to be in twenty thirty and fifty years from now.
We've got to start that planning now, and some of
that's infrastructure, but some of that's around height. And I
think that the big dilemma for this council and community
will always be the polarization around how high is too
high or what do we want the town to look like.
I think most people, if you didn't grow up here,
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you came here, you love it, you move here, and
you know, to an extent, none of us wanted to change,
but we also want the services that come along with
being a larger area. Quite often the community looks at
places like now and the services they have there and
the businesses that operate there and want those types of
things here. But without some growth and without people living
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in the center of town supporting those businesses, they don't survive.
So it's sort of you can't have one without the other.
And that's going to be what we work through over
the next six months with community and stakeholders before it
goes away to the state government for approvals to really
signal what we want the towns to be, and we
will be as soon as Bateman Spay is done, we'll
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be moving on to Maria and We've been working closely
with the state government around the corridor they have planned already.
We've had some infrastructure investment for over a thousand lots
around Maria as well in the past term of council,
which again we need housing and I think we often
talk about it's becoming too unaffordable to live here. The
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house prices are too high. Obviously building costs is a
whole other topic, but genuine just supply of houses is
a big issue. We're losing so many during the bush
fires and not really and then not having that option
to build during COVID period with prices escalating as well,
we've seen health prices obviously hugely increase, rents increase, and
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we want to make sure that we're starting to get
out in front of that and planning the towns and
where we're going to have people living so that it
gives business is confidence, It gives developers confidence that you
know where we're headed. And I think having a mayor
now for two terms and obviously a council with the
same direction for two terms, it gives business and developers
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and the community a little bit of confidence in the
direction that we're heading. And I think we're going to
see some great things for these towns, but we really
do want to make sure that we're capturing as much
information from community on the types of places that we want,
the way in which we want the town to move.
And I'm really excited about the Bateman's Bay master Plan.
I think when it goes to community, it will take
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that step back for a moment and really have a
look at this because it's a complete redesign of the
entire town. It's not simply one apartment building. It's about
how do we want the place to look in fifty years.
And I think the community is going to love it,
but I also know and understand there'll be some that don't.
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So I think it's about how do we work, how
do we get the best outcome for the largest majority
of people, and thinking about this is for our kids,
it's not for us, and it is something that's going
to take a long time to come to fruition, but
we've got to start that early planning now.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
More soon. Of our conversation with eu Abdella Shia Mayor
Matt Hatcher, including his big priority to revolutionize the region's
public toilets YEP, his vision is flush for success.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I art Fast South Coast. I Art Fast South.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Coast, James Fantasy with you, and our guest today is
eur Abidella Shia. Mayor Matthew Hatcher. Matt Blitz the field
at the local council elections this year, a thirty eight
percent win in first preferences, and this time around he
wants to lead a council that doesn't work in blocks.
He says, residents deserve a more united approach to decision
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making that's going to impact the next generation. There's plenty
of conjecture around development past and future, especially high density living,
and Mayor Hatcha has no delusions about how previous councils
have got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I want community to really look up to the councilors
into the mayor and really look at counselor and realize
that they're they're working for them, you know. I think
we've got to get past this hump of it's the
worst council. Travel a lot around the state and they
hear that a lot. And I think it takes a
lot for someone to stick their hand up to work
or to put to run an election for a council,
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and I think it says a lot about the previous
council that we had so many people wanting to put
their hand up to be part of this journey. And
you're not always going to please everyone, and there's always
people in your own group that might have helped you
get elected that aren't very happy with some of the
decisions that you make. But you know, that's I guess
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that's the name of the game, and it's about getting
the best outcome for the whole community at all times.
And I think the more we can put that at
the forefront of every decision we make, the better we'll get.
We've obviously got the Bateman's Bay Pavilions, which has been
a lingering legacy issue. Now yeah, I think it was
completed in early twenty twenty two and we opened it then,
and there's always been some contention around the side of
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the pool and the amount of money that loses, and
that will be an ongoing issue. I think the biggest
thing that the previous council did and the new council
will have to do is really drawing that line of
you know, it's here, it's not going away. It's a
service to the community. All of our pools lose money,
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you know, they're all the same as our libraries and
lots of of service as the council, but they're not
there to make money now. The loss that it makes
is in my opinion, too high, so we've got to
We've done a lot of work to I guess, find
out how we got here, what it's doing. This new
council will then need to make some determinations when the
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contract is of next year about the direction of that
site going forward. It is losing more money than what
we would like, and I think there's an opportunity next
year when that contracted the previous council back in that
was the twenty sixteen elected council signed that put us
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into a locked position. I guess that we now have
to relook at and decide what we're going to do
going forward. But those are normal issues for any council.
You know, you're not always going to nail it. And
I think you know, the site itself is fantastic. We've
held some great events there of recent and it's about
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util and trying to encourage the community to use it
as much as we can. The ongoing debt and the
depreciation of it is a concern that's a huge concern
of ours and it's concerned with the general managers, and
we're working NonStop to work out plans and options for
the new council to consider ongoing forward. There's a couple
of other sites like that, like with the Moga trails,
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that are going to have some ongoing costs and we
just have to work through those things. It's not something
that's two dollars, but it is something that we've got
to constantly pay attention to. And I think if you
look at a site like Debatings Bay Pavilions, when that
pool was at its end of life, if counsel had
depreciated and was ready to have the money put aside
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to build a new pool, we would have done that.
But at the time the council hadn't done that, and
because they needed a pool, they had to go for
a grant that there was no grants for just pools,
and they needed to then create a new business plan
for something that they could get a grant for, and
that's how we ended up with the site, the project
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that we currently have. Now again we go back to
it's a fantastic site, but it was you know, in
my opinion, it was something way ahead of its time,
and if we had done our due diligence in the
past and done things the way we do, then now
we may not have ended up with a project like that.
You know, it comes back to if we had the money,
would we have built it the way we did? Probably not.
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We had to build something that fit into the grant
framework of something that was available. And we've gotten this
council now in the direction of you know, let's plan
and let's budget, and we only take grants for things
that we actually need rather than these sort of lofty
goals to try and you know, shining objects to take
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our eyes off the prize of where we're actually trying
to go. So we've had some great wins with our
state and our federal counterparts speaking with them, especially leading
into another federal election next year, you know, speaking to
those candidates and saying these are the types of things
that we're looking for. Help us achieve this for the community.
Don't come in and make promises for things that aren't
on our works plan, because we've got a plan going
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forward that's going to keep us in the black.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Matt Well, there's a lot of red tape and finance
reports and things like that at council, you know, you
have the ability to deliver exciting projects. What's something that
you're most excited about over the next four year term.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
I say this quite often when I'm doing it, but
it really is so important to locals. Is going to
sound the strangest thing, but the toilet strategy. I've never
thought in our life toilets would be so such the
high priority they are. But you know, we've done around
six or eight now complete and we've got more coming.
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We had over sixty public toilets in this show, and
we did an evaluation of them all and the state
of them were in complete disrepair and a lot of situations. So,
you know, I think it's some the tourist love, the
community loves, and it's something that they get used heavily,
and they've always just been sort of forgotten about. So
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really bringing community together has been such a passion of
mind through this whole journey that I've been on as mayor,
and it's been so great to sort of to hold events,
to be at events and the different associations and groups
around the area and really seeing people come back together
post COVID. We saw the community really rally around each other,
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you know, after the bushfires, and then we see saw
such a divide during COVID times and people needed that
sort of communication and that ability to get back together
and enjoy each other's company. That and then seeing that
when we open toilets, it's it's something that it really
has been a great wind for the community and I
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think we hear so much positivity around it. Like we
just opened the canteen at Maria Showground and we had
a large gathering there and it was great just to
walk through and see it wasn't just the people who
they're attending, but to have our works crew there that
they actually built the entire thing. We went out to tender.
We had a nine hundred thousand dollars grant from the
federal government and we went out to tender and we
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didn't have anyone apply to build it because none of
them could do it for that price or wanted to
for that price. We ended up doing it internally with
our in house carpenters and it's a fantastic building that
came in under budget, and it just goes to show
the quality of staff that we have a council, the
passion that we have in our work groups. Now we
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have a dedicated team who are just going around the
shire and renovating all of our public toilets and bringing
them up to code, beautifying them and getting a lot
more positivity around people those user groups that used them
as well. It's been such a privileged to.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
See Matthew Hatcha Yurbidella Shia's mayor with a master plan there.
And that's a wrap for this episode of Heart Vas
South Coast, proudly supported by the new South Wales Government.
We'll catch you next time.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
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