September 26, 2024 • 15 mins
People power on September 14 delivered a deafening message in the local council elections. After 16 years, the Greens are out, and new independent Mayor Patricia White is ready to rein in spending and make big changes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I heart Shoalhaven.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
If you've filled the earth move after the recent shoal
Haven Council elections metaphorically speaking, of course, it was all
due to a seismic size shift in the local political bedrock.
People Power on September fourteen delivered a deafening message residents
have had enough of the Greens and they're overspending and
under delivery. After sixteen years, you could say the shoal
(00:24):
Haven Greens have been totally whitewashed. Get am Pete Andrea,
and let me explain that little play on words around whitewashed.
You see, here's the state of play. Kay Gardner, anointed
as the successor to former mayor Amanda Finley, is out.
Actually it looks like the entire Greens have been wiped out,
and the reason is due to the huge support for
(00:46):
shoal Haven Independence led by Patricia White, a whitewash indeed,
seven independent seats on council and control of the council vote.
So when the result is officially declared, Patricia White will
soon find self wearing the merrial robin chains. Patricia, thank
you for your time. Are you prepared to claim victory?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I am prepared to claim victory. They're up to the
final count at the moment, which should be finished today
or tomorrow. I'm leading by clear ten percent above all
the other candidates that ran, so sitting on about forty
six percent of the vote, which I think is pretty good.
Hasn't changed much from the first count on election night
(01:30):
and when they did the first count. So yes, I
am claiming that I will be the mayor for shoal
Haven City Council for the next four years.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Now, your team has done very well. How many do
you expect will take a seat on council.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The team has done excellent and we will claim two
seats in every ward. So we will have six counselors
on council from the shoal Haven Independence Group, and I'll
make the seventh counselor from shall have an independence group,
which is a majority on council.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So a majority held by your.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Group, majority held by our group.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So you've got the casting vote.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I have the casting vote, but I also get an
ordinary vote, so it won't be often that the casting
vote will be needed.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, the others as they cross the line, how many
do you expect the Tribe Independence to get?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The indications are at the moment that they've got three across,
so they've got one of the tribe independence in every ward,
so Ward one, two and three, so they've got three
representatives across, so that will make a total of ten.
Independence on council and labor. What are the indications for labor?
(02:46):
So labor, Julian Boyd has a quota from Ward three,
Ward two and Ward one. They're just sitting under a quota,
but I believe when preferences are distributed later in the
week that they will have one in each ward as well.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And the Greens.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
The Greens have nobody on council. They are all sitting
a very low quotas at the moment and it's probably
been a very poor result for the Greens in the
Shoal Haven to say the least. To say the least,
they will be as it stands now, there will be
no Greens on council.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So from a Greens controlled council to having no Greens,
what do you read into that?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I read into that that and especially listening to people
on pre poll and listening to people on polling day,
they want the council to be local. They don't want
the major politics in council anymore. They don't want the
block voting. They want independents who are going to represent
(03:49):
the residents. The community has spoken loud and clear by
electing ten independents that that's what they want to see
on shoal Haven City Council. Keep it low, get back
to the local issues, and get out of the state
and federal issues, because we need to get this council
back on track, we need to build its reputation again,
(04:11):
and we need to get it financially under control.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So roughly about ten new faces on council, would I
be right?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
There'll be ten new faces on council and some of
those people have been there before. So we have Bob
Proudfoot and Mitchell Paigs will be elected they have stood
on council before. Other than those and Jillian Boyd and
Matthew Norris and myself, the rest of them will all
be brand new at council.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So that's going to be a very interesting first twelve
months as they learn the ropes. How much will you
be relying on your CEO?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So it will be interesting for them. It does take
about twelve months to get used to how council works.
You know, when I first got elected in twenty twelve.
I thought I was going to come in and change
the world world, you know, in a short period of time.
But it doesn't work like that. Local government is actually
a very interesting bureaucracy and you have to learn how
(05:09):
to work with it and get results from it. With
the CEO, you know that we are undertaking a restructure
of the council and the new council will look at
that restructure in about a week and a half's time
and then we will just see what happens with the CEO.
I know that from listening to people again on the
(05:30):
polling boost, there was some anger with the CEO because
we've got a relative new CEO and they wanted to
see change. But financially, when you look at the financials,
and I will be accountable and transparent to residents on this,
and I will be publishing the council's finances that went
off to the Auditor General's Department to be audited. People
(05:52):
will be quite shocked when they see it. And to
quote John Wells at the last council meeting and you
can check this on the video of the last council meeting,
he said the council finances are going backwards, so there's
got to be a big improvement into that where the
finances are going because if you don't have the finances,
you can't do anything.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, that's said and things that's well known, and it
was one of the huge issues. So you're going to
have to look at stuff like rate increases down the track.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We have to look at rate increases. But I go
back to the rating increase in twenty seventeen. We only
got a rate increase for one year and we were
told them by our part ipart look in your backyard,
and you know, I would urge people to go out
and have a look at the recently published data by
the Office of Local Government. It's public so you can
(06:42):
go and have a look and you have a look
at the council finances for twenty two to twenty three.
And I think people will be quite horrified when they
have a look because it breaks it down into department,
it breaks it down into expenses, it breaks it down
into income. And I was looking at it this morning
and I was quite shocked with what I thought.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So time for change and there'll be plenty of rate
payers demanding more accountability on spending. Next we'll here exactly
where the new mayor, Patricia White, plans to start.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I Heart shoal Haven. I Heart shoal Haven.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Peter Andrea with you and more of our conversation with
the city's new mayor, Patricia White, who led her Team
of Independence to a massive win in the recent local
council elections. Residents will quite simply fed up with seeing
council slide further into the red with its spending and bickering,
and so end sixteen years of Green's dominance. Patricia White
(07:39):
is a woman of collaborative means. She wants to see
the new council free of politics that's dogged real delivery
of services for years, and the incomers must focus on
bringing council back into the black. And yes, that'll mean
changing some of the controversial decisions taken by her Green's predecessor.
Now that we're introduced under the Greens, the forty five
(08:03):
degree free rule, what's going to happen with that? You're
going to leave it alone or are you going to
find you in that?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So they did the trial. The trial ended in August.
There wasn't a report up to council, but on the
fourteenth of October, which is our very first meeting. We
will shall have an independence. We campaigned on this and
it was strongly spoken about in the campaign. I'll be
putting a Meyrill minute up on the fourteenth to restore
it to back to what it was. The only change
(08:32):
that I'm going to make from what it originally came
into place in around two thousand and two is I'm
going to get it called the Gordon Tims forty five
degree rule because lots of people say what is of
the forty five degree rule and they don't know. But
when you google Gordon Tims forty five degrees, all the
information is there. So I will be putting through a
(08:54):
name change, but it will be reverting back.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
To what it was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It worked well for over twenty twenty two years. Why
did we change it. It's going to be a very
interesting transition from a Greens Council to the Independent Council
because they seem to be very focused on the environment.
You're going to lose any of that focus. No, I'm
(09:18):
not going to lose any of that focus, but I'm
going to have a good look at the environmental issues
that were brought in and exactly how much that is
costing council. You know, people spoke loudly about they want
their roads fixed, they don't want to pay huge rate increases.
So what we have to look at is where is
(09:38):
our money going to? Now, where is our money spent
and we may have to redirect funds out of that.
And the report that's in the Office of Local Government
at the moment, it's very clear and it tells that
there's about I compared it to about or sixteen councils
and what we spend compared to other counts is mind blowing.
(10:01):
So we have to look at the direction of where
we are spending our money and make sure that the
basic things like getting our roads fixed, getting the waste collected,
getting the green bin issues sorted out, they are real
priorities of this council, this newly elected council, because we've
got to fix the finances to get back to the
(10:22):
basics and that's what we aim to do.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, pretty ironic when we've come out of a long
term Greens run counsel and we don't have green bins
and we're still scratching our heads about what we're going
to do with our waste disposal situation. Have you got
a clear picture on that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I've spoken to lots of people within the industry about
our waste and what we should be doing with it.
It's no secret that we are going to run out
of landfill probably in the next ten to fifteen years.
You know, nobody wants a nice new mega tip built
next to them. We have had huge issues with the
Material Resource Recovery Center. You know, we're looking for another
(11:01):
fifteen million dollars just to complete that facility. Fifteen million
dollars that we don't have at the moment unless we
start moving some of the finances around to be able
to cover it. And then on top of that, you've
got your green waste, and everybody's got green waste, and
they want to know, you know, how do they dispose
of that? Doesn't you know? It's a pretty it's a
pretty weird situation. You pay to take your waste to
(11:24):
the tip, but you can take it out free.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And I know it's got to do with the levies
that we pay to the state government, etc. But we
need a real solution on our waist.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So as it stands, the Shoalhaven Independence will hold the
balance of power in council but you're talking about collaboration.
So have you reached out to our other potential councilors
and said, look, let's get together and get a mindset
on where we want to go as a council.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I haven't done that as yet, but I'm planning to
do that on the third of October when the poll
is declared. So the poll will be declared, I've spoken
to other councilors, so who will become counselors. So I've
spoken to something the Tribe camp. I've spoken to Matthew
Norris and Julian Boyd in the Labor I've spoken with them,
(12:12):
and obviously I've spoken with my own team. But when
it's declared on the third, we're composing to have a
meeting after the declaration where we all get together, we
all have conversations about what we want to see on
council and also meet the directors, etc. I do know
that the CEO at the moment is touching out to
(12:33):
all of the ones that will be elected and talking
to them and getting their idea and expectations on council
and explaining to them about the compulsory training because we've
all got to do the compulsory training and then we
have to be sworn in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, so when do you pick up the mural car?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'm happy driving my little old Krona around at the moment,
but I've got to sit down and work through all
that overcoming weeks. That's not an urgency to me. As
I said, I've got my own vehicle now and I
have had it for quite some time, so you know
there are things that will come into the future. My
main focus at the moment is setting down the parameters
(13:15):
of how we're going to move the council forward, how
we're going to have our council meetings, our briefings and
things like that, and how we're going to start moving
forward with the council.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now your leadership team. Who will be deputy.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So the process has to go through election of Council
on the floor of Council. That I've requested that Peter
Wilkins stands as the Deputy Mayor and that Jason Cox
stands as the assistant Deputy Mayor.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
A big job ahead. I suppose the first gauge you
could look at would be at the initial council meetings,
whether they break down into a fiery affair like they
were so restoring that sort of council stability and decorum
I suppose in council, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
You set the tone from day one. And if people
want to be boisterous and criticize other counselors or I
will use the word misbehave in the chamber, well then
I'll be sending them out. I will just be saying
three warnings are out the door, because that's not what
we're there for. We are there to represent our residents.
(14:25):
We are there to make decisions on behalf of the residents.
And I don't think neitpicking and I don't think criticizing
other counselors is what the community wants to see anymore.
We've had enough of it. And you know, it's been
described to me that the bullying and the toxic environment
in that council chambers is not acceptable anymore. If you
(14:49):
want to do that, we can go and sit in
the corridor and listen. Because we're there to do a job.
We're there to do it properly. We're not there to
fight and pick on each other. We are there to
do the job. And if you're not going to be
there to do the job, and I'm happy to listen
to all counselors and happy for all of them to
have their say on all of the matters. But if
(15:10):
you want to start criticizing your other counselor because you
don't agree with them, well then you don't belong there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's going to be fascinating to watch how the new
shoal Haven City Council turns the tide on what has
been a Green's legacy, but Richard White concedes she does
have her work cut out for her over the next
four years, but believes a hard line approach is the
only way to put ratepayer interests at the core of
council business. Thanks for listening to iheartshal Haven, proudly supported
(15:41):
by the new South Wales Government. I'm Pete Andrea catchy
next
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Time, iheartshal Haven.
I heart Shoalhaven.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
If you've filled the earth move after the recent shoal
Haven Council elections metaphorically speaking, of course, it was all
due to a seismic size shift in the local political bedrock.
People Power on September fourteen delivered a deafening message residents
have had enough of the Greens and they're overspending and
under delivery. After sixteen years, you could say the shoal
(00:24):
Haven Greens have been totally whitewashed. Get am Pete Andrea,
and let me explain that little play on words around whitewashed.
You see, here's the state of play. Kay Gardner, anointed
as the successor to former mayor Amanda Finley, is out.
Actually it looks like the entire Greens have been wiped out,
and the reason is due to the huge support for
(00:46):
shoal Haven Independence led by Patricia White, a whitewash indeed,
seven independent seats on council and control of the council vote.
So when the result is officially declared, Patricia White will
soon find self wearing the merrial robin chains. Patricia, thank
you for your time. Are you prepared to claim victory?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I am prepared to claim victory. They're up to the
final count at the moment, which should be finished today
or tomorrow. I'm leading by clear ten percent above all
the other candidates that ran, so sitting on about forty
six percent of the vote, which I think is pretty good.
Hasn't changed much from the first count on election night
(01:30):
and when they did the first count. So yes, I
am claiming that I will be the mayor for shoal
Haven City Council for the next four years.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Now, your team has done very well. How many do
you expect will take a seat on council.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The team has done excellent and we will claim two
seats in every ward. So we will have six counselors
on council from the shoal Haven Independence Group, and I'll
make the seventh counselor from shall have an independence group,
which is a majority on council.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
So a majority held by your.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Group, majority held by our group.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So you've got the casting vote.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I have the casting vote, but I also get an
ordinary vote, so it won't be often that the casting
vote will be needed.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Okay, the others as they cross the line, how many
do you expect the Tribe Independence to get?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
The indications are at the moment that they've got three across,
so they've got one of the tribe independence in every ward,
so Ward one, two and three, so they've got three
representatives across, so that will make a total of ten.
Independence on council and labor. What are the indications for labor?
(02:46):
So labor, Julian Boyd has a quota from Ward three,
Ward two and Ward one. They're just sitting under a quota,
but I believe when preferences are distributed later in the
week that they will have one in each ward as well.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And the Greens.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
The Greens have nobody on council. They are all sitting
a very low quotas at the moment and it's probably
been a very poor result for the Greens in the
Shoal Haven to say the least. To say the least,
they will be as it stands now, there will be
no Greens on council.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So from a Greens controlled council to having no Greens,
what do you read into that?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I read into that that and especially listening to people
on pre poll and listening to people on polling day,
they want the council to be local. They don't want
the major politics in council anymore. They don't want the
block voting. They want independents who are going to represent
(03:49):
the residents. The community has spoken loud and clear by
electing ten independents that that's what they want to see
on shoal Haven City Council. Keep it low, get back
to the local issues, and get out of the state
and federal issues, because we need to get this council
back on track, we need to build its reputation again,
(04:11):
and we need to get it financially under control.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So roughly about ten new faces on council, would I
be right?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
There'll be ten new faces on council and some of
those people have been there before. So we have Bob
Proudfoot and Mitchell Paigs will be elected they have stood
on council before. Other than those and Jillian Boyd and
Matthew Norris and myself, the rest of them will all
be brand new at council.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So that's going to be a very interesting first twelve
months as they learn the ropes. How much will you
be relying on your CEO?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
So it will be interesting for them. It does take
about twelve months to get used to how council works.
You know, when I first got elected in twenty twelve.
I thought I was going to come in and change
the world world, you know, in a short period of time.
But it doesn't work like that. Local government is actually
a very interesting bureaucracy and you have to learn how
(05:09):
to work with it and get results from it. With
the CEO, you know that we are undertaking a restructure
of the council and the new council will look at
that restructure in about a week and a half's time
and then we will just see what happens with the CEO.
I know that from listening to people again on the
(05:30):
polling boost, there was some anger with the CEO because
we've got a relative new CEO and they wanted to
see change. But financially, when you look at the financials,
and I will be accountable and transparent to residents on this,
and I will be publishing the council's finances that went
off to the Auditor General's Department to be audited. People
(05:52):
will be quite shocked when they see it. And to
quote John Wells at the last council meeting and you
can check this on the video of the last council meeting,
he said the council finances are going backwards, so there's
got to be a big improvement into that where the
finances are going because if you don't have the finances,
you can't do anything.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, that's said and things that's well known, and it
was one of the huge issues. So you're going to
have to look at stuff like rate increases down the track.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
We have to look at rate increases. But I go
back to the rating increase in twenty seventeen. We only
got a rate increase for one year and we were
told them by our part ipart look in your backyard,
and you know, I would urge people to go out
and have a look at the recently published data by
the Office of Local Government. It's public so you can
(06:42):
go and have a look and you have a look
at the council finances for twenty two to twenty three.
And I think people will be quite horrified when they
have a look because it breaks it down into department,
it breaks it down into expenses, it breaks it down
into income. And I was looking at it this morning
and I was quite shocked with what I thought.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So time for change and there'll be plenty of rate
payers demanding more accountability on spending. Next we'll here exactly
where the new mayor, Patricia White, plans to start.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I Heart shoal Haven. I Heart shoal Haven.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Peter Andrea with you and more of our conversation with
the city's new mayor, Patricia White, who led her Team
of Independence to a massive win in the recent local
council elections. Residents will quite simply fed up with seeing
council slide further into the red with its spending and bickering,
and so end sixteen years of Green's dominance. Patricia White
(07:39):
is a woman of collaborative means. She wants to see
the new council free of politics that's dogged real delivery
of services for years, and the incomers must focus on
bringing council back into the black. And yes, that'll mean
changing some of the controversial decisions taken by her Green's predecessor.
Now that we're introduced under the Greens, the forty five
(08:03):
degree free rule, what's going to happen with that? You're
going to leave it alone or are you going to
find you in that?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So they did the trial. The trial ended in August.
There wasn't a report up to council, but on the
fourteenth of October, which is our very first meeting. We
will shall have an independence. We campaigned on this and
it was strongly spoken about in the campaign. I'll be
putting a Meyrill minute up on the fourteenth to restore
it to back to what it was. The only change
(08:32):
that I'm going to make from what it originally came
into place in around two thousand and two is I'm
going to get it called the Gordon Tims forty five
degree rule because lots of people say what is of
the forty five degree rule and they don't know. But
when you google Gordon Tims forty five degrees, all the
information is there. So I will be putting through a
(08:54):
name change, but it will be reverting back.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
To what it was.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
It worked well for over twenty twenty two years. Why
did we change it. It's going to be a very
interesting transition from a Greens Council to the Independent Council
because they seem to be very focused on the environment.
You're going to lose any of that focus. No, I'm
(09:18):
not going to lose any of that focus, but I'm
going to have a good look at the environmental issues
that were brought in and exactly how much that is
costing council. You know, people spoke loudly about they want
their roads fixed, they don't want to pay huge rate increases.
So what we have to look at is where is
(09:38):
our money going to? Now, where is our money spent
and we may have to redirect funds out of that.
And the report that's in the Office of Local Government
at the moment, it's very clear and it tells that
there's about I compared it to about or sixteen councils
and what we spend compared to other counts is mind blowing.
(10:01):
So we have to look at the direction of where
we are spending our money and make sure that the
basic things like getting our roads fixed, getting the waste collected,
getting the green bin issues sorted out, they are real
priorities of this council, this newly elected council, because we've
got to fix the finances to get back to the
(10:22):
basics and that's what we aim to do.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, pretty ironic when we've come out of a long
term Greens run counsel and we don't have green bins
and we're still scratching our heads about what we're going
to do with our waste disposal situation. Have you got
a clear picture on that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I've spoken to lots of people within the industry about
our waste and what we should be doing with it.
It's no secret that we are going to run out
of landfill probably in the next ten to fifteen years.
You know, nobody wants a nice new mega tip built
next to them. We have had huge issues with the
Material Resource Recovery Center. You know, we're looking for another
(11:01):
fifteen million dollars just to complete that facility. Fifteen million
dollars that we don't have at the moment unless we
start moving some of the finances around to be able
to cover it. And then on top of that, you've
got your green waste, and everybody's got green waste, and
they want to know, you know, how do they dispose
of that? Doesn't you know? It's a pretty it's a
pretty weird situation. You pay to take your waste to
(11:24):
the tip, but you can take it out free.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
And I know it's got to do with the levies
that we pay to the state government, etc. But we
need a real solution on our waist.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So as it stands, the Shoalhaven Independence will hold the
balance of power in council but you're talking about collaboration.
So have you reached out to our other potential councilors
and said, look, let's get together and get a mindset
on where we want to go as a council.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I haven't done that as yet, but I'm planning to
do that on the third of October when the poll
is declared. So the poll will be declared, I've spoken
to other councilors, so who will become counselors. So I've
spoken to something the Tribe camp. I've spoken to Matthew
Norris and Julian Boyd in the Labor I've spoken with them,
(12:12):
and obviously I've spoken with my own team. But when
it's declared on the third, we're composing to have a
meeting after the declaration where we all get together, we
all have conversations about what we want to see on
council and also meet the directors, etc. I do know
that the CEO at the moment is touching out to
(12:33):
all of the ones that will be elected and talking
to them and getting their idea and expectations on council
and explaining to them about the compulsory training because we've
all got to do the compulsory training and then we
have to be sworn in.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah, so when do you pick up the mural car?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'm happy driving my little old Krona around at the moment,
but I've got to sit down and work through all
that overcoming weeks. That's not an urgency to me. As
I said, I've got my own vehicle now and I
have had it for quite some time, so you know
there are things that will come into the future. My
main focus at the moment is setting down the parameters
(13:15):
of how we're going to move the council forward, how
we're going to have our council meetings, our briefings and
things like that, and how we're going to start moving
forward with the council.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Now your leadership team. Who will be deputy.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
So the process has to go through election of Council
on the floor of Council. That I've requested that Peter
Wilkins stands as the Deputy Mayor and that Jason Cox
stands as the assistant Deputy Mayor.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
A big job ahead. I suppose the first gauge you
could look at would be at the initial council meetings,
whether they break down into a fiery affair like they
were so restoring that sort of council stability and decorum
I suppose in council, I think.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
You set the tone from day one. And if people
want to be boisterous and criticize other counselors or I
will use the word misbehave in the chamber, well then
I'll be sending them out. I will just be saying
three warnings are out the door, because that's not what
we're there for. We are there to represent our residents.
(14:25):
We are there to make decisions on behalf of the residents.
And I don't think neitpicking and I don't think criticizing
other counselors is what the community wants to see anymore.
We've had enough of it. And you know, it's been
described to me that the bullying and the toxic environment
in that council chambers is not acceptable anymore. If you
(14:49):
want to do that, we can go and sit in
the corridor and listen. Because we're there to do a job.
We're there to do it properly. We're not there to
fight and pick on each other. We are there to
do the job. And if you're not going to be
there to do the job, and I'm happy to listen
to all counselors and happy for all of them to
have their say on all of the matters. But if
(15:10):
you want to start criticizing your other counselor because you
don't agree with them, well then you don't belong there.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's going to be fascinating to watch how the new
shoal Haven City Council turns the tide on what has
been a Green's legacy, but Richard White concedes she does
have her work cut out for her over the next
four years, but believes a hard line approach is the
only way to put ratepayer interests at the core of
council business. Thanks for listening to iheartshal Haven, proudly supported
(15:41):
by the new South Wales Government. I'm Pete Andrea catchy
next
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Time, iheartshal Haven.
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