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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Heartshah have. He sort of staggered a bit and my
sort did something wrong with him and I saw They said,
can you hear what's up? And I looked at him
and his jaw was broken down the middle. His teeth
were up one side and were down the other. And
I said, Jesus, you're gonna broken jaw.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Click.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Just get off, he said, don't tell anyone, He said,
like staying on good a.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm Pete Andrea. Well, you just never know who you
might run into downtown in the shoal Haven having a
coffee or doing some shopping. It might be an internationally
respected human rights lawyer or a former Australian PM, or
how about an actual immortal. And no, Chris Hamsworth hasn't
moved to town. I'm talking about rugby league mortal and
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Lake Conjol a local. Ron coot Ron's imposing presence on
the footy field earned him the nickname solid and Ron
is indeed a giant in nature, with a playing record
to match. The former Eastern Suburbs and South Sydney player
rapped up two tventy four Test matches for Australia and
captain the Green and Gold to a world Cup victory.
He played in nine Grand Finals and held the Premiership
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Trophy aloft six times winning individual accolades too many to list.
Ron has recently joined the Steamed Company Clive Churchill, Johnny Raper,
Reg Gasnier, Bob Fulton, Graham Langlands, Wally Lewis, Arthur Beatson
and Andrew Johns. Inducted by the NRL as one of
the game's immortals, even PM Anthony Albanize he was a
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bit starstruck when he presented the soon to be eighty
year old with his immortal jacket, as heard here on
Fox Sports, Well, it gives me enormous pleasure to announce
a fourteenth a mortal to join rugby league's elite ladies
and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
The fourteenth The Mortal is.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Ron Cook, Rugby League Immortal, shoal Haven Local now Ron Coote.
What does the immortal tag mean for you?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Well, it's certainly a great thing for me because i've
sort of over the last forty years, I've seen so
many of it come through and it's what a great
thing it's been to all the other blakes, and I've
seen them go through them and I never made it,
so I thought, well, that's passed my time now and
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then again here I've come out of the woodwork of
something which has been which has been great.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You've been nominated plenty of times and never bought home
the lollies? Did you think it was going to be? That?
A game that come.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Into my mind? I've been down this road before and
I've never ever got, never got the chocolate sort of thing.
So I thought about it, and then when I'd got it,
I was so related. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Now, you've been playing rugby league all your life. Do
you remember the first time that you strapped on the
boots and ran onto a rugby rugby league field?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah? I do. I lived in Mead Street, Kingsford in Sydney.
Of course, my father played, so he was. He was
a first grade player with the Roosters in the thirty five,
thirty six and thirty seven finals when he played in
that era. And I always used to listen to his
stories over the dinner table, all these war stories. He'd
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tell me how we'd done, how they've done this, and
now this happened and that happened, and it was great
listening to him. He was he was a good orator
and he'd tell a good story, and you know, only trouble.
They got a bit fad after you hear it. You've
heard them all a lot of times.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Like those dead stories do. Anyway, So the first time
he ran out, did you think this is the game
for me?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well? I played junior league and it was a team
called Kensington in Sydney. In Kensington in Sydney and ken
Kenzo in Sydney, and I played there and I was
you know, that was F grade and E grade and
then when I got to de grad, which was under seventeen's,
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I made the Jersey fleag team, which was which was
great and uh and they in South Juniors took us
to New Zealand for a for a match out for
for three games in New Zealand. So I thought our
goods rugby league. I mean we we flew over New
Zealand And and h and played play and stayed in Christchurch.
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We were billeted in people's houses, but it was still
great experience.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Those were the days, weren't they. Those were the days
when he used to get billeted. Yeah, Bill, you didn't
You're going to end up being with and most of
the time you were going to play against their sun.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, well, that's right. That didn't happen that time because
I think they I don't know what happened now. I
forget now what happened there, But yeah, that was It
was a great experience for me, and I thought, this
is rugby league has deffinitely definitely for me. And I
loved it, you know, and I loved it. I've always
loved it, and i've sort of, you know, even now
i'm you know, I'm sort of eighting Ellie eighty eighty
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a couple the next month or a month after, and
you know, I loved everything that rugby League's done for me.
You know, I couldn't. I couldn't think of the talk
about the game like any more than what I do
and how much I appreciate what it's all done for me.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So ron Kut's first international tour came when he was
about seventeen.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, exactly right, Yeah, true tour in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Were you a big kid back then?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Now, I was tall, skinny kid. I could run, you know,
I was a runner, but not I always played and played.
I played in the wing a bit when I was
a kid. Yeah that's right. I played in the wing
and I could run all right, and you know, and
I scored a few trials, I suppose. But then so
I got a bit old than that, and I went
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in and I went into I started playing in the.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Forwards, played lock forward, and that's where I.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Used to do.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Then when I got a bit older, I used to
follow what Johnny Rape used to do and get out
of the scrum and cover across and tackle wingers and
that when they got away. You know, I followed his
He gave me the He gave me the I suppose,
the of the advice and what to do it. And
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then later on I finished up when I went to
England with him in nineteen sixty six, sixty six sixty
seven Kangaroots, I roomed with him and he's a great
blakeshop and we've got we're being great mates.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
More soon of our conversation with Australian rugby league immortal
Ron Coot, including his recollection a watching teammate Ron Saddle
play an entire game with a broken jaw. It's rugby
league folklore. I heart shoal Haven. I heart shoal Haven.
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You might be wondering how did rugby league a motel
ron cout end up making a life here in the
shoal Haven after a big chunk of his playing career
in Sydney. Well, it was after a conversation over a
few beers with a few of his South Sydney mates
that led him to check out a holiday house at
Lake Conjola, and the property became the cornerstone of many
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wonderful summers for Ron and his family. But not so
in twenty nineteen twenty twenty, when the Coote family home
was turned to ash in the Black Summer bush fires,
and with that was lost many priceless Rugby League mementos
from Ron's career. The loss and the ordeal still very
tough for Ron to speak about. From those kangaroo tours
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and all those rep honors that you've picked up in
your time, what's the one that sticks in your mind?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Well, I captained the World Cup in nineteen se so
I think that was that was the number one thing
for me. And we won them. We won the chocolates.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Over there and then you made the decision to get
out of the big smoke and he came down to
the shoul Haven. How long you've been here?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's not a bad story. Myself and three other South blokes.
We've seen a sale of a property on Lake and
Jiwa and we all used to go out of a
Wednesday night and have a dinner in a in a
restaurant and that was George Piggins and John o'nearle and
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Gary Stevens and we'd all go out and have an earl.
And I talked to him about this property that I've
seen in the paper at Lake and Jola, and we're
all talking about buying something and putting a you know,
buying some sort of a weekend or or something, and
you had. So three of us went down in and
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we had a look at this place. We drove in
there and it was a bloke in there and he
was like, on the lake, it's like an arm of
the lake. He said, you're too late, mate. I bought
this and the real estate blake was with him and
he said, no, he hasn't made he hasn't so I
got it at all. So we bought it there, three
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of us and four of us, and I've lived there
ever since. Sort of thing. You know, it's a beautiful spot.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, one dummy, you didn't fall for. And fast forwarding
that clock four or five years ago, One of the
biggest tests in your post career was the Black Summer
bush fires. You went through a lot of a lot
of issues after your house was impacted and trying trying
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to get back into a home. You've only just got
back into a home.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, well we've been in about well it's probably last
Christmas we went we went back in. So yeah, Look,
it was a trauma that I thought, I you know,
I'm tough, I can go through this. But yeah, I
really I think it had an impact on your psychological being,
how you are, and I think it really had an
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impact on me. And I didn't think that would happen.
But here I am, yeah, admitting that I was shattered
by it.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, and you would be. You would be. It's your property,
it's your home, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Your life, everything, all your photos and memorabilia of my
football career and all that all went.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, we didn't think of that, did we. Like all
that history, all.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Those things went, and I, yeah, it wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
But you're here today and.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
And I'm enjoying life. I'm having a wonderful time.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That's what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Mortal thing is doing a wonderful job. I feel really good.
About it.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, and we're not too far away from the twenty
twenty four Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, that'll be good.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
How how do the young players of today's stack up
against you old, you, old war horses.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I think they're sensational, the players of today, how they
play the game and how good they are, which is
I'm full of admiration for them.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Are their skill sets pretty amazing?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Oh, they're unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, but I suppose that's what you get when you
when you've got a professional footballer who doesn't have to
go out and deliver beer kegs and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, that's right. And they don't have to work hard,
you know, they're just working on their game. You know,
I went over to my first time i've been there,
to South Center of Excellence. The god, my god, it's
just unbelievable. And I can remember I read for an oval.
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Sometimes there was no hot water. You're after training and
you know there was a nail on the wall, hook
on the wall, and that was it. With these blakes today,
they've got unbelievable conditions.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, very different game back then, and there were some
really hard men guys. It used to be able to
you know, he used to take knocks and broken jaws
and split eyes and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, when I was playing the Souse. When I played
to the Souse, and I played one day with Johnny
Sadler and he got a hard knock in the swinging
arm got him and he come back and and I
knew he sort of staggered a bit, and I thought
there was something wrong with him. And I saw I said,
he said, can he hear what's happ And I looked
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at him and his jaw was broken down the middle.
I could see because his teeth were up one side
and put down the other. And I said, Jesus, you
got a broken jaw. Clicks get off. He said, don't
tell anyone. He said, like staying on, and he did.
He stayed on for the rest of the game, which
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was just unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, that'sort of legendary staff. I've heard about that story
and you think to yourself, wow, that's a hard mean.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Oh he was. He was the toughest plag I ever
played or played with or played against. He was certainly,
you know, above and beyond what anyone else was.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You know, and back then you were part timers. You
you played footy, and but you had to work.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, that's right, but I worked. I was a panel
beater in the early days. So we used to do
panel beating with a stacking company down in William Street
and Sydney, and and I was there for you know,
for about three years, four years or something. And then
what happened to me. I used to get crooked news
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from now on the concrete when you're in a panel
beating a door of a car or something. So South
found me a job with Garfield Gaskets as a rep.
And then yeah, I went on from there.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Well, what an honor it is to speak with an immortal?
The fuck? Thanks no, And we everyone here stood up
and applauded when we saw, you know, you were being
made the immortal. And all we can say is it's
really good that you were around to accept that, and
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we're happy to have you here in the shoal Haven.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Thanks right. Well, you've got to put up with me
down there now.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I'm not losing that ron coot bloke krikey. I guess
one of the wonderful aspects of having the privilege to
sit down with ron Kut was to hear how modest
he is about what he's contributed to the game and
how passionate he still is about the way it's played.
Forty three years after hanging up the boots. Ron's career
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is one that's unlikely to be matched by many in
the modern game. That's our heartshoal Haven for this week,
proudly supported by the new South Wales governments. I'm Pete Andrea.
Catch you again next week. I heartshoal Haven.