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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I heart azz It.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hello there, I'm John Fabris. Welcome to the show this
week another of Tasmania's politicians who transitioned over from a
media career. I'm joined by Craig Farrell, who is Labour's
uper House member for Durwitt and the presidents of the
Tasmanian Legislative Council. I spoke with Craig Farrell just before
Christmas last year.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I HEEARTZI Craig Fowl. So many people will remember you from.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
The early days of your career in television, cartoon Company
and Bosspos.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
What era was that? That's early eighties.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah, I started at tventy six in nineteen eighty one.
The cartoon Company came in the mid eighties and went
through until aggregation. And aggregation really did sort of kill
off local television production and so the days of programs
produced in hober at the old Newtown Studio stopped then
(01:01):
and it was just more or less really from the networks. Yes,
I remember that time myself because I was at a
television station in South Australia in the late eighties and
it was starting. I think aggregation might have hit here
a bit earlier, but yes, it decimated the industry for
a lot of people. Your entrance into TV that was
behind the scenes to begin with, and that led to
(01:23):
beyond air presenting. I applied for a job at the station,
and in those days, when you were new to the station,
generally they started you off in dispatch, which they had
a little was a Gemini car at the time, a
little wagon.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Your job was do the banking, pick up the fruit
and veg for the little.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Can team that we had on site, and then to
collect the films from the airport and take the films
that were played back to the airport and manage the
in and out of the films and videotapes.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So I started there. The idea was that we.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Give you a good overall view of how the station worked,
and it certainly did, because you'd be dealing with accounts
and you'd be dealing with programs and dealing with everyone.
Most people then moved into the studio and started in camera,
but there was a mass exodus for some reason. Every
one was going off to make their fortune on the mainland,
and they moved me into audio. So I was in
the audio room for a long time and then did
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some programs, switching later on.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It was. While I was in audio.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
There was a bloke called Jim Williams and he went
by the name Jim Shoes and he was a muso
from around Herbert, and he put forward a proposal that
he and his other mate, who played the role of
spot d Dog, wanted to fill some dead time on
Saturday mornings because generally we just put the Porky Pig
Show on and played a few cartoons. So he wanted
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to do this very generously and on a huge budget.
They said, yeah, you can do that. We'll give you
a cameraman, a sound guy and a director. You can't
have a full manager. You can't have a second cameraman.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
You know, done very check.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So to overcome the issue of not having a floor manager,
who's the person that communicates between the director and the talent,
we devised in the audio room to set up a
microphone over the audio panel and we had to put
it through a delay so we wouldn't get feedback through
the monitor speakers because you still had to do the
job as an audio operator. So we created out of
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this delayed voice. We played with the machine a bit
and created a robot voice.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
So Rex, the robot was.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Constructed and we just grabbed some stuff out of the
props bone.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I think there was an old styrophoam.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Wig stand and that was the head of the robot
and we put some styophone and stuff and attached it
on a box and just had it there. The robot
would talk, that's our what cartoon are we going to now?
Or who's on the phone, or Because we had a
program called TV Power, the kids are bringing it activated
a machine power out.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
They could say any word and crodophen they did, you're
telling me?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
They would say some yeah it's not and if they missed,
you know, they express their disappointment. And different kids did
it in different ways, but anyway, that went live and
we got away.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
With that relatively scathe. So that's how Rex the Robot
was developed.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
And then we had one of our technicians, Bruce Woods,
who we all catch up from Tomsong.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
He's still very active.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
But Bruce then decided he had built a proper robot
we needed.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
He built it out of timber and he put.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Flashing lights and activated and that continued for that program.
When that finished its run, they decided they've change and
they wanted a costume character, so they got Boss poss made.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
There was a female host at that time, Julia.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It sort of continued on the next season was Boss
poss and Julia and I did the puppet for Boss Poss.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I was under the desk and with my hand up
the puppet.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But they had also bought a full sized suit, but
it wasn't my size.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It was just used for promotion and that type of thing.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And that led on to the next stage where they said, look,
we're going to change it around. You don't fit in
the possum soup, but we want to have a full
sized possum. Do you want to be the post and
work with the possum? A short fine, So we just
transferred to that and that's where we stayed for the
next five or six years, I think. And was this
ad lib or did you have some semblance of a script?
(05:21):
It was just ad lived. We changed cartoon company to
pre recorded because we wanted to get live audiences in
school kids, so we have school kids in every Friday morning.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
We bought it put it to air on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
All the others up to that point had been live,
but this just then enabled us to have a studio
audience and a.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Greater participation with the public.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I suppose we wouldn't have got audiences on Saturday morning.
You were talking about those films that would be collected
at the airport. They were kind of like tapes. They
weren't thirty five millimeter movies. They were really on loan,
weren't they. The TV station would have them for a
certain period of time, try and use them as much
as possible, and a way they'd go off to somewhere else.
(06:04):
Hard to believe, now, isn't it, Given everything just comes
via you know how it goes, and that just comes
out of the sky. But yeah, it was a very
physical business with.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Loads of people. With loads of people, you'd get the videotapes.
The way the films used to work.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The metropolitan stations, the big stations will get the first
run of it, because after they played a while, the
equality went down and we were somewhere in the middle area,
and then we'll send it off to some of the
more regional stations. NTD eight DO and the Mackay and
all these little stations. So in dispatch, the way it
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was done was quite clever. There was a distribution company.
They would send out the labels of the stations and
I often think you know.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Wish I'd kept those labels. That just would have been
dumped because they told the story.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
They'll be on the box and you could see that
it had been to TC and nine in Sydney and
then had gone to Western Australia and then South Australia,
and the story of this progress of this program was
on the stickers and you just put your new sticker
on the box and send it off through air.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's just really strange to think of how that was then.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Because today you've got a television station with your telephone.
You know, you can broadcast live with your phone with
high quality pictures. We had to have a huge building
with boat big machines to play tapes. And that's only
in a relatively short period of time that that technology
has changed.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
To that degree.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Greig Farrell, the Presidents of Tasmania's Legislative Council, back shortly
word more of our conversation about Craig's first career in
the state's TV and.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
My Heart as He.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I heeart as He. Craig Farrell, my guest on IHEARTASI
this week, is the President of Tasmania's Legislative Council and
became a familiar face on TV in this state before
entering politics. I caught up with Craig Farrell late last year.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Did you become per se a celebrity back then? For
TASMANI I suppose, you know, it was just doing a job.
I'm sure the kids would get excited when they'd see
you and you'd walk down the mall and they'd go, hey,
where's boss past.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
You know, if they will get out, And that continued
for years and years and years. But then it was
young adults.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yea had the same thing, which was really sort of
nice that they'd remembered the show.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
They've probably grown up with it. And yeah, I suppose we.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Had in Hobart our little celebrities, you know, the newsreaders
and the sports readers and the journalists.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
They were all because people watched television. That was what
you did. You watched Telly in the night.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Nowadays, because we've got so much on demand, We've got
so much on our phones, and Telly's just something that
sits in the corner if you need to put a
Wiggles video on for the Grand Hits or something.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
It's not the center of the home anymore. Now.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
All your stars are TikTok people and that type of thing. Well,
the stars of the era, so many have transferred over
into a political life. Look at Jim Cox for example.
I didn't realize how big they name. Jim Cox was
the only state Yes in Northern television. You know Jim
Cox TANT nine. He was the newsreader and he did
(09:28):
the Talent Show and quiz Quest and all those sort
of things. Kerry Finch who was the ABC Breakfast in
Northern Tasmania, he was in the Legislative Council. We now
have Joe Palmer, a former newsreader, Nick dag and the
former sports reporter and presenter of various programs.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Of course recently in the Lower House rock Fairs.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
So there's a whole lot of media people that moved
into politics.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
And I don't know if that's because being involved in
the media, you're aware of the news, you're aware.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Of people's feelings, do you talk about things, and maybe
it's it's a natural progression. And of course Cassiocona, she
was a journalist at the old TVT six two.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So we've got when I first joined the Legislative Council.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Apart from the fact that it was mainly older, quite
conservative men, and now it's predominantly younger, progressive women.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
So there's been a whole change.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But back then the department was made up of probably
some lawyers, some farmers, some school teachers, that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But it's really really changed.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Probably if you did the numbers, there'll be more former
media people than any other to explain it when a
on air career waxes and waynes, as they are prone
to do. It's a little bit like show business. One
minute you're the king, in the next minute you're on
the street. And this is where our paths crossed. In
television sales, Yeah, when in television is six, it was wow.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It keeps your legging the industry.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But ultimately I think the passion really is for the
on air side of it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
And the sales side of it is to put food
on the table.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Indeed, and that was it to me at the time
when production sort of more or less finished at tv
T six. That was tes TV at that point before
it went to WIN. When aggregation happened, the old Southern
Cross station from Lounceston opened an office in Hober The
old TVT I opened an office in luncest and put
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the transmission up, so they were being statewide broadcaster because
I thought, well, my time.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
In Telly's done. I need to find something else.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
And I was actually going for an interview for a
radio sales job because I want to stay in the
media because I loved the media, and I thought, well,
Telly's sort of had the biscuit here. And I bumped
into Paul Hogan, who was Southern manager for Southern Cross
and they were setting it up, and he said, why
don't you come and have a talk to me, And
I thought, I can stay in Telly, thinking that I'm
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still in Telly, so it's just a different job in Telly.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But as you know, sales is a completely different animal.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Table, yeah, you're still in the building, but selling is
a completely different discipline.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I did that and then came when we worked at
Wing together. You've got to be a bit driven.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
You're going to want to make those goals and that
ten percent more and you're ridden fairly hard in sale.
Sales is a hard job. I just got to a
point where I thought I'm over this. Yeah, you know,
and you try other sales roles, but eventually I think
there's no two eighty six anymore. There's very little dielevision,
so it's something I can't go back to. So it's
(12:30):
interesting because I get involved with local community station to.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Get my media fixed.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
When I was a young kid at school in the Northeast,
I wanted to work in radio to start with, and
there was a local station there, seven SD, Yes our network, Yes,
this is going to error, lovely SD and seven SD
was the center of the universe. It was just such
a great little station. And the people the adverts are
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training was the manager, Sheila Rind in the morning program,
and Murray Overy did a program. They just all these
names in the town and they were in the town
like that. They were the celebrities. They were so big,
and radio was everyone had.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
The radio. Farmers listened to it while they milk the.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Cows, and they were very low to their local station. I,
as a early high school kid, got a job on
Well it wasn't a page job, I don't think, but
on Saturday night they had a program called Party Time.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
They played all the latest music and birds are training.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Because Simnisty was a fairly midstream sort of country radio station.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
So these forty five's coming.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I worked in the record library, so I'd go and
get the records out and Peter Dunbaben was the announcer.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
People will ring in for requests and.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
So I'd have to go and get the record and
bring them in and then put the records away, and
there would be this section where Bert's a Training had
written on them.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Party Time, only they wanted to be played Rocket.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
When they started to stop Party Time, I was given
one of the forty fives I've got somewhere with Party
Time owned written on them. So I've always had media
interest and I thought I was heading to the wireless,
and then TV just sort of knocked up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
That's the show this week, A conversation with Craig Farrell
his career before he became President of Tasmania's religis Lative Council.
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